Comments on: Upcoming 4 car large car comparison

By: AW

AW — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:03:31 +0000

not worth responding to.

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:48:08 +0000

mmmmmmmm,I couldnt say AW but I think they have a little blue tablet for that problem now if your unsure………hahaha,sorry couldn’t resist!

By: AW

AW — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:14:56 +0000

Please tell me it is going to be up tonight! Please!!

By: TP

TP — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:41:19 +0000

Given the Aurion has won best large car for the last two years I would be suprised if it doesnt topple the Commmodore which has been around for these tests… I suspect the Falcon will win and its a challenge between Aurion and Accord for 2nd, Id say the Accord will be second.

By: Paul Maric

Paul Maric — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:22:33 +0000

Captain Mainwaring:

The test was pushed back due to the release of the Camaro.

Expect to see the 4-car comparison up Thursday night.

By: Captain Mainwaring

Captain Mainwaring — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:07:11 +0000

C’mon guys – when the Hell is this going to be released????

By: Anthony

Anthony — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:58:05 +0000

GhisGT – there you go again with nonsensical mumbojumbo. Ever overtaken a B Double in an underpowered car? Didn’t think so. This category includes cars which are used for family holidays and as such, you need more than adequate power to hall past these giants of the road, with a high degree of safety.

Do you have anything of value and ‘on topic’ to say about any of the cars in the soon to be published four car comparision. I mean, anything at all?

By: AW

AW — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:11:25 +0000

I would like to ask those of you who are commenting on the Accord and the way it drives have you ever actually driven an Accord V6 Luxury. Obviously not because of the waffle you are coming up with. Get real, and wait for the test to be released.

By: Al Juraj

Al Juraj — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:15:28 +0000

The Falcon and Aurion should easily grab the first two spots. The improved 4-litre Ford motor should provide great performance and relatively good economy especially if they test it with the 6-speed auto. The Toyota also has 6 gears (cannot be had in the Accord or Commodore) and easily the second best engine in the group, losing out only on available grunt compared to the Falcon.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:32:03 +0000

Fred,
you are right in that the aurions engine/gearbox combo is right up there,
But……..
the falcon sports what is renowned as the best box in the business…….the ZF6.
the I6 it also carries provides effortless acceleration.
0-100 times for the aurion and falcon are bang on each other, but i reckon it is the “effortless” performance of the I6 that stands out in my mind.
also, real world figures show falcon fuel economy better than the aurions…….

with out a doubt though, the first and second place will go to falcon and Aurion when it comes to mechanicals.

its a pity that the aurion drops the ball in other areas.

for my mind the falcon racks up solid runs in every department

By: Fred

Fred — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:10:37 +0000

The Aurion should be the A-student of the bunch with the best engine-gearbox combination for performance and economy, but it won’t win the girls unlike the Ford or Holden. The Accord looks dorky at the back (Honda does it again) and the cylinder shutoff feature is pretty much beneficial only on the highway (don’t expect 3 cylinders to haul this heavyweight around town). Besides, it doesn’t have 6-speed auto which would have helped further improve economy. It has a nice dashboard though – best in the group.

By: Richo

Richo — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:22:40 +0000

and btw i have driven an omega and a calais, and the calais has the same drive train as the SV6, so to answer your question, yes i have

By: Richo

Richo — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:21:39 +0000

Adam, if you really have driven both an omega and an SV6, you would have seen first hand the marked difference between the 180kw engine in the omega and the 195kw engine in the SV6. My point was not that the 195kw motor suddenly made the commodore fantastic, simply that in 195kw trim the difference in refinement between the commodore and falcon/aurion/accord is much much closer then it is in 180kw form

By: Adam (aka Mada)

Adam (aka Mada) — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:27:26 +0000

Richo…

have you actually driven a VE omega or SV6?
I have.
BF11 even beats VE’s for drivetrain performance, economy and NVH. FG’s easily wollap VEs for overall drivetrain package.

The VE handling dynamics, build quality mind you are the best i’ve seen on a commodore.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:26:20 +0000

The 195kw is higher tuned and uses more fuel than the 180kw motor doesn’t it? I think fuel economy is the current objective of the car manufacturers.

By: Richo

Richo — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:16:27 +0000

Tom – i agree the DI V6 for the VF commodore should be a big deal, especially as it will be mated to a new 6 speed auto. It will be very interesting to see whether or not the omega and berlina models will score the full DI engine, a cut down cheaper version of the DI engine, or the 195kw alloytec that currently serves in the Calais and SV6.

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:30:36 +0000

Crouchy – the mazda 6 is a 4 cylinder mate! This is a 6 cylinder comparo

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:52:26 +0000

The direct injection will be a revolution.

It should be roughly 220kw, and sub 10L fuel economy, Holden couldn’t get their hands on it fast enough. It’s just what the Commodore needs with current petrol prices.

And in a 1500 odd kg car like the future Torana, it will be utterly superb. If you think back, that’s the type of numbers a 5.7L LS1, made just under 10 years ago…

By: Joober

Joober — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:39:03 +0000

Richo – Has the high output v6 of the commie got variable lift too?

You can see why Holden is moving up one spot an introducing the DI version of this engine and giving the boot to the junk 180kw standard motor.

By: Crouchy

Crouchy — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:16:12 +0000

hmmm i would almost like to see the mazda 6 put in with this bunch. seems pretty competitive at its new, lower price……..