All thats been written about the ‘A’ pillars and poor visibility out of the rear window is true but its easily overcome by adjusting the mirrors and being more attentive when driving. LOVE IT!

Must be a weightlifter, or discus thrower or a wrestler; hold on no its a sumo wrestler.

It’s too heavy and out of step for a car in 2008 – it shouldn’t be larger than a Vectra or the sample Torana seen at a motor show a few years ago.

Come on General Motors you are responsible for the mess Holden is in right now. Can’t you gets some good parts from Isuzu, Subaru, Saab, Opel and yes Holden and make a range of cars that suit Australian conditions.

Lower fuel consumption; diesel motors; good 4 cyl motor from Japan; 6 speed autos and manuals across the range; sedans, hatches and wagons.

Some local councils require cars to gain at least a four star fuel rating to be a part of the fleet.

It’s a pity Toyota don’t make them; perhaps we would have cars that looks good and run efficiently too.

And lets not forget to mention that they don’t always go back empty either, just that the “rack” on the trucks go round and round the circuit all day, fully loaded or not.

And BTW if you know any of the drivers, the cops are going to be watching the way they shortcut the roundabouts.

Then how do you explain the fact that 90 people have already made out cheques for a HSV VE W427 at a cost of $155000? I mean that’s $13;950;000 whats more there are still another 337 to be built over the next couple of years and people are already placing orders for them even though there could be a 6 month+ wait….

Whilst there are still over 300odd TRD Aurions sitting around Toyota Dealerships and Storage yards.

BTW: There is also a number of people pushing for Holden to put the Coupe 60 into production

They send a B-Double Truck full of panels for every model in the VE range and the WM Statesman to the Holden factory every 30-45 minutes.

Please I’m sure Holden where thinking of getting pannels and parts from China for the Commodore but they ditched that idea, hey Wheelnut?

GM wanted Holden to continue using an existing platform for the VE – that of the Sigma from Pontiac; yet Holden designers and engineers decided it wasn’t suitable for Australia and set about designing an Australian car from scratch.
They prepared a business case for Detroit and were given the go ahead. Now the Zeta platform on which the VE is built is being used in many other GM cars including Pontiac

Whereas the Aurion is a Face-lifted Camry from the USA
If Toyota are the biggest selling manufacturer in Oz not to mention the richest in the world [not the biggest] then surely Toyota Oz could have put forward a similar case to Tokyo for an all new car designed and built or as you like to say “conceptualised” in Australia – hell then they might have been able to make the Aurion RWD and therefore more of a direct rival to the Commodore

So even though approx 25-30% of the components in a VE Commodore are from Overseas in “esscence” it is still more Australian than the Toyota

Either way its good to see two locally built cars getting attention from all around the world

Also, Aurions are assembled here just like your beloved VE, but would you say these Toyotas are Aussie?

Then can you please explain to me what that massive white building on the Phillip Highway in Elizabeth South Australia is ?

The one which is full of the latest robots etc [which cost almost half of the VEs billion dollar budget] and has a constant stream of both RHD and LHD Commodore Sedans Utes Wagons and Statesmans coming out of it [on average 1 every minute]

I mean if they’re a car maker thats not building their own cars than what the hell are they doing in there…. making bread?

It’s also a shame the rear lamps seem to have come straight out of the ute.