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		<title>By: Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-136575</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2005 VZ sedan thats done 225,000kms and have had no problems with it, however my sister in law has a new Omega Sportswagon company car and has had heaps of trouble with it after doing 30,000 kms. She had the preivious VZ executive wagon before and it was sold after hitting a huge 350,000kms with no problems (it was just 3 yrs old). She has also said that the space is horrbile as well as the blind spots compared to her VZ wagon and would prefer to drive a 350,000kms VZ executive before jumping happily into the new sportswagon. I have to purchase a wagon myself, in order to care for my grandmother, but I am definately going to look for a VZ executive wagon before even going into Holden to purchase a new sportswagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2005 VZ sedan thats done 225,000kms and have had no problems with it, however my sister in law has a new Omega Sportswagon company car and has had heaps of trouble with it after doing 30,000 kms. She had the preivious VZ executive wagon before and it was sold after hitting a huge 350,000kms with no problems (it was just 3 yrs old). She has also said that the space is horrbile as well as the blind spots compared to her VZ wagon and would prefer to drive a 350,000kms VZ executive before jumping happily into the new sportswagon. I have to purchase a wagon myself, in order to care for my grandmother, but I am definately going to look for a VZ executive wagon before even going into Holden to purchase a new sportswagon.</p>
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		<title>By: 179HOLDEN</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-112875</link>
		<dc:creator>179HOLDEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have had a sv6 sportwagon now since they were released. my wife drives it 80% of the time and we have had no problems with it. its now done approx 9000km.
my complaints would be the bucket seats have no support for going to quick into corners. the steering wheel is to large and i get sore palms if i hold the wheel at the 10-2 postion, if i hold it at 9-3 its not to bad. 
for a large car fuel economy is not to bad around town at 11 litres per 100 average and on the highway it gets depending on speed low 8&#039;s to 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have had a sv6 sportwagon now since they were released. my wife drives it 80% of the time and we have had no problems with it. its now done approx 9000km.<br />
my complaints would be the bucket seats have no support for going to quick into corners. the steering wheel is to large and i get sore palms if i hold the wheel at the 10-2 postion, if i hold it at 9-3 its not to bad.<br />
for a large car fuel economy is not to bad around town at 11 litres per 100 average and on the highway it gets depending on speed low 8&#8242;s to 9.</p>
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		<title>By: Bogan Aussie</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-97199</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogan Aussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to utilise a big car allowance ($20K per annum) which means about a $100K car over six years with a previous company trade in. I looked at the Beamer 5 series entry level at $92K on road, which is a 2 litre stinky little 4 cyl diesel 125 kw which takes 10 secs to get to 100ks. With a $25,000 devaluation in the first year I then looked at holden. I bought an SSV brnd new in July. All leather interior, Sat Nav, six stack, voodoo blue. It has better features than the beamer and does 100ks in 5 secs.It left me $45K over so I bought the wife a new mazda 6. The SSV looks awesome compared to the beamer AND I can service it myself with genuine Holden parts for $60. BMW? Forget it. And I DID see an new SSV Sportswagon on the road yesterday. it looks as awesome as my sedan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to utilise a big car allowance ($20K per annum) which means about a $100K car over six years with a previous company trade in. I looked at the Beamer 5 series entry level at $92K on road, which is a 2 litre stinky little 4 cyl diesel 125 kw which takes 10 secs to get to 100ks. With a $25,000 devaluation in the first year I then looked at holden. I bought an SSV brnd new in July. All leather interior, Sat Nav, six stack, voodoo blue. It has better features than the beamer and does 100ks in 5 secs.It left me $45K over so I bought the wife a new mazda 6. The SSV looks awesome compared to the beamer AND I can service it myself with genuine Holden parts for $60. BMW? Forget it. And I DID see an new SSV Sportswagon on the road yesterday. it looks as awesome as my sedan.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean66</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-89899</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well finally taken possesion of my SS 6sp manual Sportwagon. Im HAPPY with it...not too many kilometers driven yet but looking forward to spending more time behind the wheel.

All thats been written about the &#039;A&#039; pillars and poor visibility out of the rear window is true but its easily overcome by adjusting the mirrors and being more attentive when driving. LOVE IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well finally taken possesion of my SS 6sp manual Sportwagon. Im HAPPY with it&#8230;not too many kilometers driven yet but looking forward to spending more time behind the wheel.</p>
<p>All thats been written about the &#8216;A&#8217; pillars and poor visibility out of the rear window is true but its easily overcome by adjusting the mirrors and being more attentive when driving. LOVE IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-88230</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sportswagon?

Must be a weightlifter, or discus thrower or a wrestler; hold on no its a sumo wrestler.

It&#039;s too heavy and out of step for a car in 2008 - it shouldn&#039;t be larger than a Vectra or the sample Torana seen at a motor show a few years ago.

Come on General Motors you are responsible for the mess Holden is in right now.  Can&#039;t you gets some good parts from Isuzu, Subaru, Saab, Opel and yes Holden and make a range of cars that suit Australian conditions.

Lower fuel consumption; diesel motors; good 4 cyl motor from Japan; 6 speed autos and manuals across the range; sedans, hatches and wagons.

Some local councils require cars to gain at least a four star fuel rating to be a part of the fleet.

It&#039;s a pity Toyota don&#039;t make them; perhaps we would have cars that looks good and run efficiently too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sportswagon?</p>
<p>Must be a weightlifter, or discus thrower or a wrestler; hold on no its a sumo wrestler.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too heavy and out of step for a car in 2008 &#8211; it shouldn&#8217;t be larger than a Vectra or the sample Torana seen at a motor show a few years ago.</p>
<p>Come on General Motors you are responsible for the mess Holden is in right now.  Can&#8217;t you gets some good parts from Isuzu, Subaru, Saab, Opel and yes Holden and make a range of cars that suit Australian conditions.</p>
<p>Lower fuel consumption; diesel motors; good 4 cyl motor from Japan; 6 speed autos and manuals across the range; sedans, hatches and wagons.</p>
<p>Some local councils require cars to gain at least a four star fuel rating to be a part of the fleet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity Toyota don&#8217;t make them; perhaps we would have cars that looks good and run efficiently too.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-86817</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But its also a wagon with the word &quot;sport&quot; in front of it.That bit of marketing from Holden is just as bad as Fords finger ads</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But its also a wagon with the word &#8220;sport&#8221; in front of it.That bit of marketing from Holden is just as bad as Fords finger ads</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-85998</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut,
You mean &quot;semi-trailer&quot; load NOT &quot;B-double&quot;.

And lets not forget to mention that they don&#039;t always go back empty either, just that the &quot;rack&quot; on the trucks go round and round the circuit all day, fully loaded or not.

And BTW if you know any of the drivers, the cops are going to be watching the way they shortcut the roundabouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut,<br />
You mean &#8220;semi-trailer&#8221; load NOT &#8220;B-double&#8221;.</p>
<p>And lets not forget to mention that they don&#8217;t always go back empty either, just that the &#8220;rack&#8221; on the trucks go round and round the circuit all day, fully loaded or not.</p>
<p>And BTW if you know any of the drivers, the cops are going to be watching the way they shortcut the roundabouts.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-85907</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote [Starky July 12th] Australians simply aren’t into performance or handling anymore. 

Then how do you explain the fact that 90 people have already made out cheques for a HSV VE W427 at a cost of $155000? I mean that&#039;s $13;950;000 whats more there are still another 337 to be built over the next couple of years and people are already placing orders for them even though there could be a 6 month+ wait....

Whilst there are still over 300odd TRD Aurions sitting around Toyota Dealerships and Storage yards.

BTW: There is also a number of people pushing for Holden to put the Coupe 60 into production</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote [Starky July 12th] Australians simply aren’t into performance or handling anymore. </p>
<p>Then how do you explain the fact that 90 people have already made out cheques for a HSV VE W427 at a cost of $155000? I mean that&#8217;s $13;950;000 whats more there are still another 337 to be built over the next couple of years and people are already placing orders for them even though there could be a 6 month+ wait&#8230;.</p>
<p>Whilst there are still over 300odd TRD Aurions sitting around Toyota Dealerships and Storage yards.</p>
<p>BTW: There is also a number of people pushing for Holden to put the Coupe 60 into production</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-85903</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI Al Juraj - The platform; the 1/4 panels; the doors; the roof; hood and boot; even those huge one piece side panels for the ute and the tailgate for the sportwagon are made in Australia using Australian steel by a company called Hirotec located in Elizabeth about 5-10 minutes drive away from the Holden Factory 

They send a B-Double Truck full of panels for every model in the VE range and the WM Statesman to the Holden factory every 30-45 minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI Al Juraj &#8211; The platform; the 1/4 panels; the doors; the roof; hood and boot; even those huge one piece side panels for the ute and the tailgate for the sportwagon are made in Australia using Australian steel by a company called Hirotec located in Elizabeth about 5-10 minutes drive away from the Holden Factory </p>
<p>They send a B-Double Truck full of panels for every model in the VE range and the WM Statesman to the Holden factory every 30-45 minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/#comment-84637</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Juraj, please name me some parts of the where holden gets parts made in Korea and China for the Commodore?

Please I&#039;m sure Holden where thinking of getting pannels and parts from China for the Commodore but they ditched that idea, hey Wheelnut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Juraj, please name me some parts of the where holden gets parts made in Korea and China for the Commodore?</p>
<p>Please I&#8217;m sure Holden where thinking of getting pannels and parts from China for the Commodore but they ditched that idea, hey Wheelnut?</p>
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