Toyota reports all-time record sales
1 Jul, 2008
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Toyota has broken an all-time industry record this month, becoming the first car company in Australia to sell in excess of 25,000 vehicles in a single month.
Sales figures released today reveal that Toyota sold more than 25,600 cars for the month of June, breaking its own record of 24,539 which it set 12 months ago.
It’s strongest performer was the Corolla with more than 5000 sales, closely followed by the HiLux which contributed just over 4500 to the overall total.
With the financial year ending just yesterday, Toyota also announced that it has sold more than 247,500 vehicles for the fiscal year - also an all-time industry record.
No other brand has ever sold more than 200,000 vehicles in any 12-month period in Australia.
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
here we go again:
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Wow - what can i say
OH WHAT A FEELING …
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:45 pm
looks like a lot more boring cars out there…
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:49 pm
lolcake - yep gues someone who loves their toyotas will start poking fun.
Can’t odds the figures. Toyota have made their nest and reaping the benefits at the expense of others by basically offering products that people want with good pricing and the best customer care. When will the opposition learn?
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Hay look, a picture of the TRD Hilux high on a hill top … why isn’t the Maloo ute parked next to it ??
anti-spam word : Toyota
oooow … there’s that warm and fuzzy feeling again.
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July 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
No thanks to the Turd Hilux! Any word on its sales? Much like the car im going to assume they are shit house…
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Hey Luke GT… i find your comment amusing as if we were to compare the maloo’s power, handling, style and interoir to the hilux you would be straight on the back foot and start with your whinging…
“oh you cant compare them, they are completely different blah blah blah”
Wanker.
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:06 pm
No suprises really, considering the MASSIVE advertising campaign and DISCOUNTS that Toyota have been doing.
So what another 4000 odd pre-tax time fleet sales Hilux’s.
(Remenbering that more than 4/5 of all Hilux’s are fleet).
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:09 pm
“The JD Powers APEAL Study examines how gratifying a new vehicle is to own and drive, based on owner evaluations of ten measures covering more than 90 vehicle attributes.
And while Toyota came sixth in the quality survey, it slumped to 26th in the APEAL study, finishing well below the industry average”
Just what everybody allready knew.
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Crouchy - were is the Maloo, why isn’t it pictured next to the TRD Hilux in the picture above. There has been a comparison between the two but for some strange reason i just can not figure out why the Maloo is missing from the picture.
Why is that … mmm !!
Bret - FACT … the Hilux enjoys a much greater percentage of private sales then 4/5.
It is in high demand from many facets of the market - farmers, tradies, industries, mines, off-road enthusiasts (like all Toyota bush bashers) and ofcourse, mums & dads.
OH WHAT A FEELING
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
The Nazi party dominated Germany too,the people were brainwashed to think they were good.History Repeats.
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm
25,000? i bet they’re all beige
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Bret - doesn’t say much for Holden and it’s recent heart sobbing patriotic adverts or Ford’s new Falcon adds that have ruled the TV screens for the past month.
Why haven’t they had the same effect … !!
Ooops, forgot - when you sell Daewoo’s no amount of advertising or heart wrenching adds is gonna twist any ones arms to buy a Daewoo.
At the end of the day, you can advertise as much as you want but if your products doesn’t have the substance, it’s gonna sell … PERIOD !!
Ford + Holden = less then Toyota
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Phil - Quality and Customer Satisfaction Surveys all around the world wether it be Australia, USA or the UK prove they are good.
Oh yeah … so does the market !!
Better still :
* 2007 Leaked Australian Quality Survey
* 2007 RAC National Australian Survey
* 2007 JD Powers WA Motorist Survey
* 2008 JD Powers National Australian Survey
so … tell me, how does Holden and Ford compare to Toyota in each of those most recent Quality / Customer Satisfaction Surveys ??
Does Toyota ever rank outside of the TOP 3 - let me help abit … NO !!
OH WHAT A FEELING
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I’ll take a fridge/freezer combo thanks.
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Australians have vote with their wallets!!!
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pm
oops - meant to say … it’s not gonna sell
re: Luke GT July 1st 7.22pm
Embarrassing !!
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Phil - you can find the fridge/freezer combo amoung the numerous and delightful Daewoo’s now on offer at your local and riveting Holden Dealership.
Tomas79 - EXACTLY !!
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Phil - i believe the Australian population has benefitted from being un-brainwashed that Holden and Ford are the only products.
Sure … Toyota sells alot of cars but many other Japanese, European and some Korean manufactuers are enjoying increased showroom activity themselves while GM and Ford are finding fewer and fewer.
We all now who done the brainwashing … thank god the population has awaken to relise that much better exsist outside the Holden stable.
Admittedly, i don’t mind Ford … they have a respectable fleet as they sell no Daewoo.
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Point taken Luke GT - Toyotas dominance will be their downfall. Cars are a status symbol for most folk. They aspire to be different, wanting to drive something different. So those folk driving the minority cars will be pretty chufffed at not being seen in a Corolla.
Gotta admire Toyotas success, bet the other are kicking themselves.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
what ever, heard it all before.
Fact is … Toyota has made the centre stage and ‘well and truely’ kicked Holden and Ford off it.
Naturally, there will come a time when Toyota’s huge success is reduced but odds are, they will remain amoung the biggest sellers of all wether it be 1st, 3rd or 5th.
Every dog has it’s moment and right now … it’s Toyota !!
No-doubt the BIG T will be smart enough to preserve much of thier huge wealth to give them the muscle to remain strong and competitive for many generations to follow.
Sure … i’m blowing the trumpet, but doesn’t any team when they have a win !!
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Toyota’s huge month is not exactly what it is cracked up to be and i will tell you why.
On the news tonight, it was reported that many automotive companies have had a huge month in front of the increased Luxury Car Tax so most brands will report a good month for thier more expensive vehicles including BMW inwhich a spokesman said they have sold about 1/3 more cars in June then thier average.
However - as good as June will be for many car companies, the big fear now is how is the increased tax gonna affect them from ‘here on in’ … !!
So … yes, a great month for June but what now !!
That’s the question all the car companies are pondering.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm
FACT:
By simply writing FACT in capitals, you can claim whatever you like, unsubstantiated and all.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:16 pm
There you have it - proof that the buying public is dumb.
More than 5000 Corollas and not one with ESP.
Toyota is a master of high price, low spec selling, able to fool bogun consumers.
What do the sales people tell customers who ask about ESP? “don’t worry about that - we don’t include it and we know best”?
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Singing to yourself - your statement about being different … have you ever considered that’s why a sizeable proportion of the population have moved away from owning a ‘typical’ Holden or Ford !!
Worth a thought …
That said, a proportion of Toyota’s current success is derived from the resource boom were many companies are turning over commercial vehicles.
So while Toyota is enjoyng this segment of the market, every other manufactuers have equal oppurtunity to cash in on the bonanza aswell but unfortunately for many of them, they carn’t compete for a number of reasons including reputation of thier commercial vehicles … or better still, lack of.
It also comes to supply, marketing, business and so forth.
A sucessful company is governed by many successful departments and not just a single facet.
Toyota obviuosly have thier ducks lined up and good ‘em.
Don’t hold it against them, just those who haven’t … SIMPLE !!
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Exactly Luke GT, thats what i’m saying, was Ford/Holden now toyota, It’ll be Kia/Hyundai next.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not knocking Toyota, they have a good reliabilty record and a great customer service attitude. Just saying the others need to regroup and sort their attitudes out.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Please don’t sing,your way off key
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:32 pm
i agree reckless1……….they hang shit on Ford for not having curtain airbags standard on the FG but Toyota get away with selling “showbag cars” ……..thats cars with lots of goodies but no real substance.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Reckless - what crap.
Most Toyota’s are hugely competitive in price, equipment specification, quality, resale, safety and so forth.
Your comment is nothing short of pure sh*t.
Lets face it, people got smarter and moved away from Holden … PERIOD !!
How many customers understand when they buy a Barina, Viva, Epica or Captiva that they are infact buying nothing more then a Daewoo.
How many people who drive away in a Barina understand they just purchased a 2 star death trap.
Oh yeah - as of next month (August) the Corolla comes with ESP to augment it’s already impressive 5 star NCAP rating.
What is Holden doing about the death trap … EXACTLY !!
While Holden decided to persist with a ruff/gruff, harsh, gutless alloytech mated to a dated, clunky 4 speed trash box - Toyota introduced the Aurion with a class leading drivetrain.
better still, Holden introduced the VE to the market with A/C as an option, limited airbags, a pretend spare wheel and of course the trash drivetrain i just explained while the Aurion came stock standard with everything - in relative terms.
So what exactLy were YOU saying about over priced and under spec’d … !!
For the same price, you can have a 2 star Daewoo Barina or a 5 star Toyota Yaris …
Shall i continue !!
You live with the fairies in la, la, land.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Singing - that is a sensible reply, one i can respect.
However … don’t think for a minute that Toyota will be easy to overcome. They have alot of wealth, resources and expertise they can employ in greater amount to maintain a strong position within the global automotive market.
They are also one of the most dedicated and determined automotive companies of all.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Wheelstud - the cars with substance sell, those without … don’t !!
Take Holden for example - an ordinary Commodore at the best, a very average commercial fleet and then an array of Daewoo’s … what substance.
NOT !!
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Reckless one u hit that Toyota nail on the head and drove it home mate!
Toyota are taking their customer base for granted and if Hyundai can rise to the challenge I think Toyota will regret it.
Talking to a friend that works for Hertz last week and he says they are going to ramp up purchase of Hyundais for their fleet and may eventually replace Toyotas as the main rental option as they have proven reliable and more cost effective.
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Realcars - heard all the same ‘hoo haa’ crap from you before yet it just never seems to happen … does it !!
boring …
What’s the matter, gotta talk about Hyundai these days because you have lost all hope in Holden and Ford
HA, HA, HA !!
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July 1st, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Anway, bed time for me and i will sleeping tight tonight Knowing Toyota hAs just made another awful mess of Holden.
Damn … it just keeps getting better.
OH WHAT A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
As I have always recommended.
If u want a car to drive purely as a mode of transport why buy a Toyota when u can get similar for less with more over at Hyundai?
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Looks like the fleets went crazy on the Toyotas again for the end of the financial year.
Take out fleet and rental sales and Holden would probably be No.1 and Ford No.2 hahahahahahah
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
hahahahahahaha
Toyotas are “Showbag” cars
hahahahahahaha
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Realcars, was it like that 5 years ago? No, it was a very different story. Hyundai were just rubbish.
But now, it’s a very different story. They produce decent cars. Like the i30, I bloody love it!
But people who buy Toyota arn’t very well car-educated (well some). And they just go off history and what people tell them. Eventually it will change (over time) and Hyundai could quite possibly become the new Toyota. If they keep designing the cars (the i30 for example) in Europe, they will sell
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Dean, are you that stupid?
How many commodores and falcons are bloody fleet? Astra’s are also on some fleets. I know it wouldn’t be as many as Toyota, but it is still a lot….
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:44 pm
I think you will find Dean that most of all holden sales are fleet and goverment not many private buyers at all if you read the sales figures fact is im affraid to say that most private buyers with there own cash prefer cars from japan and thats fact i thought i better let you know so dont go on and look like a fool
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Dean Says:
July 1st, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Looks like the fleets went crazy on the Toyotas again for the end of the financial year.
Take out fleet and rental sales and Holden would probably be No.1 and Ford No.2 hahahahahahah
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I hope you’re being sarcastic. If you take out fleet sales, Mazda will probably be number one. This is because Mazda produces quality cars which are good looking and that are more than just A to B transport.
I just can’t fathom someone willingly choosing a Toyota Camry over a Mazda 6 for example. Not to mention the other competition like Subaru Liberty, Ford Mondeo, Honda Accord & Euro etc. There’s just too many blind and boring sheep out there who know nothing about what other cars are out there and just rely on some other boring dull sheep who says that Toyota is the only brand that makes reliable cars.
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:51 pm
well said chucky.There are just so many good cars out there, i think the mid size market
is the big hot area at moment.there almost as roomy as commondore most are faster than holdens six use less fuel much more stlye thats why private buyers going mad on them the japs are giving most what thay wont
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July 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Toyota have DOUBLE THE MARKET SHARE then second place Holden. Take out fleets and there is still daylight between them. Mind yoy the highest fleet selling Toyota, the Corolla, when based on private sales only beats the Commodore which is first only when fleets are included! So wake up, Toyota is best in both markets
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July 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Luke GT Says:
July 1st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
“Oh yeah - as of next month (August) the Corolla comes with ESP to augment it’s already impressive 5 star NCAP rating.”
You’re such a know-it-all with Toyota product… Toyota call it VSC, not ESP. Anyways, Toyota are yet to announce when VSC will be made available in the current ZRE152R series Corolla. There’s a good chance it won’t be until a midlife facelift. Toyota are due to bring out facelift Yaris, Hilux and RAV4 models in the upcoming months, but no mention about VSC in Corolla.
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July 1st, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Lolcake? Says:
July 1st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
“Realcars, was it like that 5 years ago? No, it was a very different story. Hyundai were just rubbish.
But now, it’s a very different story. They produce decent cars. Like the i30, I bloody love it!”
You love it eh? Here’s an intersting story for you - one of our regular Toyota customers rented an i30 whilst in South Australia on a business trip. Drove over a cattle grid with a missing 6 or so inch section (much like hitting a rather large pothole) and set the airbags off in the process! Plenty of other vehicles driving over it with no effect. Sounds like Hyundai are still making rubbish…
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July 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Im not saying it’s to a standard that high as of yet. Actually, I’ll never buy one. But, there getting there. If you compared it to a Hyundai produced 5 years ago,to say the i30, it would be a very different story.
I own a Toyota, and have so for many years. I’ve always hated Korean cars, the reason being they were cheap, nasty and normally a death trap. But things are changing. They will eventually be on par with other companies out there. Just as Toyota did.
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July 1st, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Yup…
People still DONT GET how business work.
Toyota, yes has been lacking performance cars. But thats because they are too busy making everyday vehicles that people actually buy.
Again, 2 years and you’ll see Toyota back on the performance market.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 am
Only problem is Hyundai is a Hyundai, its got the stigma of cheapo all around it, although it is winning some hearts here and there especially when reviewers give the thumbs up on some cars, i reckon they can do more…
What it needs to do is take the challenge and make a mark in motorsport of somekind whether it be Rally, F1, Dakar , at least when it beats Toyota, GM, Honda, Ford and so forth, people will start recognising it more…
Oh back to the topic, congrats Toyota… although its boring cars are nothing to be really impressed about, it knows the market well!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 am
What’s the definition of boring people? Going from A to B without braking down?? Or just not having to mechanically tinker with it on the weekends to keep it going??
Personally I love genuine 4wds, and with some notable exceptions, I find all the other offerings from the other major brands in Australia boring!! Holden and Fords don’t even offer genuine 4wds anymore!!
Also to all the people winging about the lack of ESP on corrolas, lets not forget it is a moderately powered FWD car. So it doesn’t require ESP as much as a RWD 6cyl+ car will!!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 8:04 am
So is Luke GT Dingo in drag?
I’ll simply wait for the profit figures to some through to see the real success.
Toyota is lucky the mining boom occured.
I congratulate Toyota, they can sell large amounts of cars the Hertz, i know as i work for an auction that has seen about 300 yaris, corolla, camry, aurions over the last month and ther’re still coming.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 am
VW Freak … Toyota confirmed months ago that the Corolla will be offered ESP (ooops … VSC) as of August 2008.
You are such a ‘know nothing’ all !!
For thE rest of you clowns - Toyota enjoys strong sales becuase they are popular across all facets of the market … PERIOD !!
Mums & dads, farmers, tradies, industries, mines, 4×4 enthusiasts and so forth all buy Toyota products in numbers … FACT !!
Drive.com recently published thier annual fleet sales percentage and they hightlighted that approx 84% of Commodores and Falcons (up from approx 80% in 2007) are currently fleet purchased while 60% of the Corolla is purchased by the private buyer.
The article also went on to state that so far this year - the Aurion has infact been purchased in greater numbers by private buyers the the Falcon … ooch !!
Maybe some of you clowns should actually conduct some worhwhile research instaed of sprucking nothing but pure rot.
The fact that Toyota can outsell Holden and Ford combined says it all …
Oh yeah, for those who think Toyota is boring … obviously the market thinks diffferently. The only thing that is boring is Holden and all of those decade old Daewoo’s they sell … PATHETIC !!
OH WHAT A FEELING
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July 2nd, 2008 at 8:28 am
Adam - as i said, Toyota sell strong across all facets of the market : do Holden and Ford - let me help you abit … NO !!
Oh yeah, Toyota Motor Corporation released thier FISCAL profits in May for the 2007 / 2008 reporting period (for some unknown reason Toyota’s financial year goes from April 1 - 30 March of each year) and reported yet another whooping profit … 16.7 BILLION in Oz dollar terms.
That effectively secures 7 consecative years of mass multi-billion dollar profits inexcess of 15 billion for each year. Peaked at 19.5 billion a couple of years ago.
Ford and GM however … ahhh, don’t meed to go there.
Better still, GM last week reported thier lowest share value in more then 50 years.
So … what exactly were you saying about success !!
You live in la, la, land with the fairies.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 8:39 am
Luke GT,
What is the profit figures for Toyota AUSTRALIA for the past 5 years?
Ford?
Holden?
Wanna bet Toyota AUSTRALIA has been less profitable?
Mazda’s AUS retail sales AND profit match Toyota AUS yet sell almost 1/4 less…
Yes lets argue over who is more productive. Even Honda AUS would be more efficient than TOyota AUS.
Toyota AUS can brag about being market leader but not much else…
What is ultimately more important?
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July 2nd, 2008 at 8:40 am
So are you Dingo in drag?
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July 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 am
I have never understood how someone can be a Toyota Enthusiast here in Australia in the same way there are Car enthusiasts for other brands.
You need something to get ENTHUSIASTIC about before you can be an enthusiast!!
I understand the love for the Cruiser and Hilux, but the cars….
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July 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
tomas79,
You obviously don’t understand what ESP is for & how it works if you think the car’s size & power has anything to do with the need & benefit to fit it!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 am
Here’s something that hasn’t been widely reported…
Cardigan sales have gone through the roof, also incontinence pads and lawn bowls memberships..
Oh what a snoooooze….!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 11:53 am
Pick up any newspaper/magazine/periodical/newsletter or watch any prime time tv slot and usually there is always one consistancy…a Toyota advert offering great deals etc. etc.
It’s all about marketing. One does’nt need to build an exciting car to sell plenty of them…just make the ad for it gimicky (200 killer wasps??!!) or flood the media with that ad and you have guaranteed sales…
I hear now Toyota give a free prostate exam now with every camry (or ask any old codger and they’ll tell you it’s a Teyota Camray) test driven…see??? Guaranteed sales.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Toyota just reported a June loss…
Toyota Motor Co. –11.5% at 193,234 (6/07: 245,739)
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Here’s a thought, I was going to post some amazingly insightful and earth-shatteringly truthful comments on Toyota, so I began typing the anti-spam word;
R34GTR
..and now I can’t think of a single inspiring word to say about Toyota.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Millatime:
But TRD have the Aurion and HiLux!!
Oh wait… yeah, now I’m with you
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Read an article on Drive about Quality vs. Appeal study done by JD Power. Interesting finding is that vehicles that are perceived as high quality, also rate lowest in appeal, and vice versa. I really think this is what all these Toyota vs. World responses boil down to. Toyota fans say they have highest quality, nay sayers say that Toyota lacks appeal. Here’s the rub - both sides are correct. So, move on - it’s all good!
If there were such a thing as the perfect car that wipes the floor of all others, then it would truly be the only car in manufacture as no one would want the others. The fact that there’s so many cars to choose from shows that *no* car can be a one size fits all. Celebrate diversity!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Dingo (Lukeyboy) says:
“FACT … the Hilux enjoys a much greater percentage of private sales then 4/5.”
WRONG AGAIN Dingbat.
Hilux’s sell “almost 1 in 5 to private buyers”. Gee thats over 80% fleet! FACT
And on the advertising, WRONG AGAIN Dingbat, Toyota advertising has been absolutely massive in the last 6 weeks, both corporate AND huge “dealer” flooding of local press and media. Arecent AFL game had over 45% Toyota adverts during the 3hr prime time telecast. Whats that cost??
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July 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
^^^
Nice to see some real facts come through
Oh what a (sinking) feeling!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Everybody seems to forget the shit Toyotas of the
60s,70s,80s and 90s.Wasn’t until the 90s that the handling was no longer bordering on the dangerous for most Toyota models.
Wasn’t that long ago.How soon we forget.
Marketing is Toyota’s forte.Nothing else.They have done many clever marketing moves over the years and have been relentless with it. Master stroke allowing Holden to sell Corolla and the then new to this market Camry as rebadged Holdens during the nineties as an example.
Oh and Jamison u are so superior.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Wow … have a look at all the sore losers on this site - yet again, Toyota has screwed Holden and Ford right up the backside with a whooping size 20 steel capped boot … OOOCH - WHAT A BLOODY MESS !!
WHEELS July 2008 pg54
quote :
” It seems that HSV’s and track days just don’t go together. At least this time they carn’t blame the journo(Dumbrell was doing the driving when the GTS died).
The car refused to fire after a stop, preventing the Holden gun from attempting to defend HSV’s honour. A cool down and a battery disconnection to reset the ECU didn’t help … GAME OVER !!
HSV engineers came from Clayton and persuaded the car to run late in the afternoon. Still unsure of the problem, they took it back to the workshop and found a speed sensor wire had backed out of a terminal in the transmission. With no speed input to be found, the ECU would not let the engine start.
The FPV also struck problems during the road test with the stability control and ABS deactivating themselves several times. They returned once the car was restarted. FPV have yet to provide a diagnosis as this was written ”
unquote
Gee… another road test and yet anoter break down for a Commodore / HSV and Falcon / FPV.
Why is it a regular occurance that Commodores breakdown or a compliant is atleast lodged relating to quality issues when a road or track test is completed … mmm !!
Like i said, the Falcon and Commodore are infact amoung the least reliable motor vehicles that can be purchased on any showroom floor and Quality / Customer Satisfaction surveys have long proven this ‘year in - year out’.
OH WHAT A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
bret you wanker where the hell did you get that information! hilux sales are mostly private i would say at least 70%! the hilux is a way more supior product than any thing in it’s class and you still have to wait 3-5 months for some models even after 3 years on the market!as for trd hilux try and buy one there is currently 3-4 months wait and the order bank is growing! “realcars” are you for real, toyota has set all it’s reputation on cars from the 60-90’s what about the starlet,corolla, celica, camry, landcruiser, hilux, hiace, you trying to tell me that these cars are heaps of shit get real realcars your a bigger wanker than i thought!!!!!!!!!!!!! toyota does not have to prove anything the sales prove how much australians love the product and there the ones leaving holden and ford in droves i rest my case!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Realcars and Circus - The days of Holden and Ford leaning back on their history and heritage they earn’t in the early days are quickly running out. Time moves on and so does the market - we live today and into the future, not yesterday !!
Catch up .. if you can
You clowns must walk around with a litle black book full of a 1000 excuses to waffle-off each time Toyota conquers your beloved Holden and Ford month after month and the best part of it all … they keep extending the lead. It is no longer embarrassing for the Blue and Red brigade - just down-right shear genocide … HA, HA, HA !!
Oooow - there’s that warm and fuzzy feeling again
OH WHAT A FEELING
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm
gee, imagine if they had of rolled the Ford, lmao!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Dingo (Luky & Toyota Rules - all one and the same, twat people do realise).
That QUOTE regarding the hilux sales is not mine, but comes from the same “irrefutable” source as the fleet figures you posted. D1khd.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Any company can advertise as much as you want but if your products don’t have substance or a solid reputation - they won’t sell … PERIOD !!
Fact is - Toyota offers the most diverse and consistant fleet of all. Their cars, SUV’s, People Movers, Commercials and 4×4’s are consistantly amoung the best on the market in each of thier respective categories and this is not only supported by any Quality / Customer Satisfaction Survey but by the views and experiance of the market whom just happen to be the greatest judges of all.
i understand how ‘gut wrenching’ and ’soul squashing’ it must be for the bogon to witness terrible genocide month after month but fact is - much of the rot spilled on the web by ‘The Circus’ is generally not even remotely connected to The Real World.
Go back to bed and dream of fairies in la, la, land … maybe in your own little world’s Holden and Ford can be as successful as Toyota - even if it’s just for a day
OH WHAT A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Bret - i am going under a single name only (Luke GT) and no other.
Luke GT happens to be my first sons name followed by the initials of his middle and surname. It is not hard to work out who is me. I often change names which are generally family names such as my sons, brother, father and so forth but eitherway, it’s not hard to work out who’s me.
Don’t ask me why but i do have my reasons associated with getting my comments deleted. As for the name Dingo (damn i loved that title) - i carn’t even post it anymore.
My real name is Shane !!
cheers
ps. Toyota Rules is not me but saying that, i like the title … naturally !!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Bret - Toyota Rules explanation on the Hilux is infact true.
There is currently a 3 - 4 month wait on a new Lux because of high global demand particularly with the diesel variants. Toyota admitted late last year that they under-estimated the demand for diesel Hilux’s so have been adjusting production accordingly.
As strong as the sales have been for the Hilux, total sales have infact been less then possible and it has only been recently that Toyota Australia has been able to secure more units from the Thailand operation.
That said, the same goes for the Corolla. Greater sales for the Corolla was limited last year and into some of 2008 because of global demand but now Toyota Japan has adjusted it’s capacity to suit current demand which in turn has allowed more available units for Australia.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Toyota sales dropped like flies last month in the US.. wonder what happened there?
At least with the Commodore and Falcon problems on the track day, the problem was only minor. Unlike the Toyota dealer who had to give his legs a work out thanks to terminal engine failure during a nice quite drive around the block.
I shed a tear
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July 2nd, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Luke GT - Do you live in Australia?
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July 2nd, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Luke GT -
Sales dont mean a good product.
Want Proof? Two words for you:
Microsoft Windows.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Bret - like all Toyota commercials including the Hilux, they are in high demand by all facets of the market … mums & dads, farmers, tradies, industries, mines and 4×4 enthusiasts.
I have stated this many times now but it just doesn’t get through.
Fact is … you understand it is true but ignoring to accept it doesn’t even remotely change the reality of the market - not even an inch !!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Luke, I don’t even understand what that last post was meant to say.
Hilux sales are more than 80% fleet - FACT, PERIOD, AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO TYPE IN UPPER CASE.
It’s not me that is ignoring the facts here, and all your claims won’t change the market (despite trying reeeally hard).
And if you think I give a rats what market share any manufacturer actually has, then you are sadly mistaken. As long as I have the opportunity to do factual resaerch and make an informed choice, on the vehicles that I choose then I will be happy. Historically, I have owned more toyotas than any other brand (probably more than you), but cannot see my way clear to aspire to any current Toyota model - now or in the near future - you only get burnt so many times before moving on.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Daddy, Daddy, please come away from the computer and come and play with us. Being on the computer just makes you angry and it frightens us.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Phil - do i lIve in Australia … pathetic.
Born and breed Australian just like my parents, thier parents and my children. Grew up in the country (real Australia) drink VB, eat meat pies, follow AFL (go the Hawks) will be watching the State Of Origin tonight (go the Moroons) and have even served my nation in the Armed Forces … have you !!
I am as Aussie as you get ‘em yet Toyota to me is a far superior choice then Holden and Ford because they simply make a better product … PERIOD !!
What’s funny about it all, Holden advertises that they are Australian yet fact is - it is 100 % American owned.
Travel to ‘real Australia’ were our farmers, tradies, indusry workers and miners are the very backbone of our national econmomy and which automotive manufactuer rules the roost … let me help you a bit - it’s NOT Holden or Ford.
The country and country people to me are the Real Australians of this nation and they love thier Toyota’s (and Nissan) by the abundance.
A red-dust covered, hard worked, whip aerial covered, bull bar claded ‘70 series Cruiser with a cattle dog and a block of VB in the back is far more Australian to me then a pretty Commodore or Falocn coasting around the suburbs of Sydney.
Travel long and remote to Alice Springs, Ayres Rock, the Birdville pub or even Kakadu and what would you see more of then any other … yeap, that’s right - a friggen Toyota.
What about one of our most recognised National understakings of all - The Snowy Mountain Scheme - which vehicle established a strong reputation as an honest and hard working hack … that’s right - The Toyota Landcruiser.
Was Holden and Ford even thier ??
Infact, Holden doesn’t even sponsor our very own national Sport - AFL.
So don’t ever question me as an Australian or the fact that Toyota hasn’t rightfully earn’t it’s place in the Australian Automotive History ever again.
That said, not only has Toyota manufactuered vehicles in Australia sense the 60’s, but they are also the biggest seller of automotive products of all and exhibit a larger export regime then either Holden and Ford.
They employ many thousands of people, participate in various forms of local motorsport and are respected by the hardest working population in Oz … PERIOD !!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
There’s about a 3 month wait for DIESEL Hilux and Prado, the petrol variants dealers can’t give away.
Q:Why is this? A:The buying public is incredibly stupid.
Unless you travel 40 odd thousand K’s a year, or tow large weights regularly, it will take the average motorist 8 or 9 years before diesel will actually save you money. The average motorist also replaces his vehicle every 4 years, therefore MOST PEOPLE LOSE MONEY ON DIESEL.
Yet as we know a 3 month wait for diesel vehicles, while petrol vehicles can’t be given away.
So how stupid are the buying public?
Incredibly, evidence is the fact Toyota sells more boring lifeless dull motor cars than any one else. Are they better? Is diesel a cheaper fuel for the masses?
No.
The consumer just follows what everyone else is doing.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Bret - FACT, no they are not !!
You are the one ignoring facts, not me !!
Eitherway, it doesn’t change the fact that Toyota commericials and the Hilux included are purchased in great numbers by all facets of the market.
And here is another thought for you … our hard working Farmers, Tradies, Industries and Mines form the very backbone of our economy which just happens to feed, educate and offer security for families and it is commercial vehicles from Toyota and Nissan that are the most respected and regarded to perfrom the duties as a rugged, reliable, dependable and durable work hack that satisfies these industries.
No amount of your pathetic and lame ar*e excuses will ever change these very simple and to the point facts … not even remotely.
Holden, Ford and every other manufactuer have equal oppurtunity to tap into the lucrative market themselves yet i guess they just don’t exhibit the same respect or reputation as Toyota or Nissan commercials have long established themelves… and rightfuly so.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Millatime - what page number in your Black Book Of Pathetic Excuses was your latest wacked-out comment quoted from … ??
What ever the excuse, doesn’t change the reality of the market that Toyota outsells Holden and Ford combined … PERIOD !!
2006 - Toyota outsold second place Holden by 66 000 units
2007 - Toyota outsold second place Holden by 90 000 units
2008 - Toyota to outsell second place Holden by in-excess of 100 000 units.
Sales like that just do not happen by mistake … PERIOD !!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
The Toyota bloggers on this thread are just as gullible as the lemmings that buy Toyota without question or comparison.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Luke GT is Dingos twin!!!ha Ha Ha
So much passion for a passionless brand.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Not many Aussies on here ……….thats whats wrong with our country……….we used to look after our own but now its just all aussie bashing. Dick Smith was right…….if we all supported our home made products we would have better and cheaper products. And dont give me that crap about Toyota reliability……they have as many problems as any other car……….ask a “real” mechanic.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Dingo (can’t be bothered typing Lu…)
I live in a rural community, do Toyota 4WDs dominate the Farming community here? No bl00dy way.
I have many friends that work in the mining industry. None of them have toyotas as their private vehicles, not even as a second car for the missus - I have asked some of them why: sick of the bl00dy stupid things is a common reply.
Defence avoids Toyotas where possible. Why? High running costs due to exessive and costly maintenance and parts. And yes, thats accross the borad, from Corolla office hacks to Troopies.
Either you live a very shelterd life, are totally stupid or are nothing more than a Toyota propaganda stooge.
Your call, which one?
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
HILUX SALES ARE MORE THAN 80% FLEET.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:48 pm
A red-dust covered, hard worked, whip aerial covered, bull bar claded ‘70 series Cruiser with a cattle dog and a block of VB in the back is far more Australian to me then a pretty Commodore or Falocn coasting around the suburbs of Sydney.
…with a milk crate for a seat and bulldust bellowing up through the rust holes in the floor.
Good script for another Toyota propaganda campaign.
If they can reincarnate Lawsie they will be in full propaganda mode again.Ha Ha Ha
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July 2nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I have finally discovered the reason people buy Toyotas in Australia. They want to be John Laws u know what I mean.Ha Ha Ha
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July 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Realcars … another thought (and probably a more accurate one), many people brought a Toyota after comparsion and no-doubt walked in to Holden and straight out again.
GasGuy … EXACTLY - ask a real mechanic and wee all know what they say … don’t we !!
Bret … what ever fella. Your dribble isn’t even remotely connected to the reality of the market. Your comment is downright ridiculous and absolutely and completely pathetic.
Seriuosly, who are you trying to kid apart from yourself and the rest of the circus. Put it this way, any country folk, farmer, miner or traveler will kill themslves laughing at your pathetic comment.
Go back to bed will ‘ya and dream of nice little happy fairies in la, la, land were everybody is nice.
Oh yeah - i suppose the thousands upon thousand of Toyota commercials and 4×4’s sold in Australia each year just vanish in mid-air or are collected as collectables while the commercials sold by Ford and Holden in much, much, much less numbers meracuously (spelling) multiple to fill all the country folks and town halls.
CLOWN !!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Bret - despite the hardest evidance … Quality / Customer Satisfaction Surveys and Monthly Sales smacking in you in the face, it still doesn’t get through !!
Amazing … !!
Anyway, enough talking to clowns - the State Of Origin is on soon so must go and watch the Moroons walk over the Blues … hopefully.
Damn it’s gonna hurt if they don’t
GO THE MOROONS !!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Luke GT/Toyota Supporter/Oh what a feeling/ Dingo;
Why do you use different names to post? Because you get deleted? Ask yourself why that is!!!!
Millatime is right and as usual you resort to slagging off those with a different view than your own - that’s pathetic.
Most people will be out of pocket by buying diesel vehicles and never recover the savings. Instead of spewing poisenous bile out onto the net, surprise yourself and do the numbers.
Do consumers act like sheep? Absolutely and all retailers know it. The car manufacturers know it too. Holden claim Commodore is Oz’s favourite car and Toyota respond calling themselves Oz’s favourite Car Co. Why? Because that claim alone will guarantee them sales.
So no doubt you will crap on endlessly with facts and figures and stats, and yes Toyota’s sell well, we know that, but we also now know that the car buying public behave exactly like sheep. So that eliminates completely sales figures as an effective measure of how good a car is.
So what are Toyota’s like? I think MILLATIME is right in describing them as boring lifeless and dull, and I would add dreary insipid and sleep inducing.
Your devotion to the brand is admirable, however, we are still waiting for you to reply to BRETT’s question. Are you the worlds loneliest stupidest psycho, or are you either directly or indirectly on Toyota’s, or one of it’s agencies, payroll?
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July 3rd, 2008 at 8:00 am
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July 3rd, 2008 at 8:10 am
dohcv8 if you dont like getting your ass kicked by toyota don’t come on this forum go to a holden or ford only site that way you can babble on all you want about how bad holden (or is that daewoo) is going! and how the new falcon is not selling! ford have huge discounting on the new falcon only 1 month after its release! does holden have anything these days that does sell apart from commodore that is 99.9% gov fleet sales! OH WHAT A FEELING!
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July 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Toyota loser, (from now on, I’m done with all the other names)
Your propaganda drivel does not change the facts.
More than 4/5 of Hilux’s sold are to fleets - PEOPLE just don’t buy them, unless there is a tax dodge on the end of it.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 am
Whats wrong with fleet? They obviously buy them because they don’t constantly break down, cheap to service, repair etc. And they also are fairly priced (being fleet)…
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July 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 am
People don’t ‘em … except for Farmers, Tradies, Industries, Mines and the public market by the thousands as per published sales month after month.
Better still, Toyota sell more Hilux’s to the private market then Ford does the Falcon ute - another fact … ooch !
Oh What A Warm And Fuzzy Feeling
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July 3rd, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Toyota = overpriced blandness.
Oh what a snooze fest.
The car buying public are supremely ignorant, how else do you explain Commodore being number 1 vehicle in sales for the last 10 years. Now they are turning to Toyota in droves.
Oh my God ignorance is bliss, it’s time for me to return to Europe, where a car is judged on it’s dynamics, not how many a manufacturer can churn out.
Oh and Luke GT, read my last post again, there’s not a single excuse in it, only fact. I don’t have a black book of excuses but you have provided ample evidence that you have written amd mastered several.
“Oh what a warm and fuzzy feeling” means it’s time for you to change your incontinence pad.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 1:14 pm
millatime (what sort of a name is that) if you think toyota is “overpriced blandness” what the hell does that make holden and ford! get a grip mate or better still go back to your overpriced unreliable bland europien cars and leave the biggest selling most reliable best resale value range of cars to us australian’s! because as you can see by the june sales figures toyota rules down under!commodore has only been number 1 in the country because 99.9% of there sales are to the goverment, no private buyer would waste there money on one!! corolla will buy the end of this year be number 1. OH WHAT A FEELING!
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July 3rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Toyota Rules -
Let me repeat myself for those amongst us who have trouble with comprehension (pay attention now T.R.)
As car enthusiasts (which is why we’re here T.R.) it’s all about driving dynamics. Not primary school playground talk about who’s No.1 or 2 or 3… If that sort of talk gets you off well there’s lots of tonka’s in the sand pit to play with and build things and rank in order so you feel safe and secure. Good for you, well done and mummy is so proud of you.
So as car enthusiasts let’s get back to driving dynamics and I’m sorry but it’s exit Toyota stage left immediately.
If you like dreary and dull, which most people do, Toyota are world champions as we all know, but as car enthusiasts dear God please spare us.
I see from your latest post you’ve dropped the “warm and fuzzy” from your “Oh what a feeling”. You must have had the nursing staff change your incontinence pad, well done and good for you, it’s great having dry pants isn’t it!
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July 3rd, 2008 at 3:12 pm
why do you guys continue to think that there is only one toyota suppoter on this form “I AM NOT LUKE GT” he is one great toyota supporter i am just a toyota fanatic who loves to take the piss out off your less inferior products. say all you want but as the saying goes THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING! and i just love rubbing your nose in it! OH WHAT A FEELING!
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July 3rd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
That’s fine by me, Toyota Rules. Same with TP. Each to his own. I am. But don’t mimic this other bloke. It’s very likely that he’s certifiably unwell (mentally) and the site owners and some of the rest of us communicated between us a long time ago that the best option is don’t engage and don’t provoke and that’s because…I can’t say.
If only you’d seen what we’ve seen over the last year.
PS Did you find out what Millatime means? Can you guess what Golfschwein means? What sort of name is Toyota Rules, anyway?
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July 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Things just keep getting better … reports have justed surfaced that due to GM’s mass share priCe plummet last week to the lowest sense 1954 that bunkruptcy is now a real concern for GM …
Infact, they need to raise approx $15 billion just to see thier current operations continue until the end of 2009.
Thats, what Toyota just reported in profit - AGAIN !!
After all of those years of pure arrogance from GM, it is now others having the laugh.
OH WHAT A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING !!
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July 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Quote [Dingo]:Hay look, a picture of the TRD Hilux high on a hill top … why isn’t the Maloo ute parked next to it ??
Any logical person with the slightest scerrick of intelligence and automotive knowledge would realise that the TRD isn’t a direct rival for the Maloo and therefore wouldn’t even consider a TRD when looking at a Maloo the only other real rival for the Maloo is of course the FPV Pusruit or the F6.
Because you Toyo-tossers keep going on about the Maloo vs TRD thing; its reasonable to assume that you would also compare a Yaris to a Koenigsiegg; ot a Prius to an FA-18.
Rivals to the Toyota Hilux Crew Cab [on which the TRD is based] include the Rodeo and Triton as they are also available in crew cab with V6s and 4WD NOT the Maloo
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July 3rd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Luke GT -
Oops, there goes another incontinence pad..
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July 3rd, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Quote [Dingo]: yet again, Toyota has screwed Holden and Ford right up the backside with a whooping size 20 steel capped boot
Again I ask How can you Screw something to a wall with a Steel-Capped Boot? Id much rather use aCordless Driver Drill or even better a Nail-gun
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July 3rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Quote [Joober - July 2nd] Oh back to the topic, congrats Toyota… although its boring cars are nothing to be really impressed about, it knows the market well!
Joober; why even bother trying to get back on topic as recent history has shown once Dingo and his infinite split personalities makes an appearance on any particular blog on this site it just turns itno a slanging match where there is absolutely f-k all chance of getting back on topic..
He tries so hard to convert people over to his way of thinking yet instead of being civil and level headed he is always on the offensive and makes regular personal attacks which is completely the wrong way to try and get people on-side and convince someone about something..
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July 3rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
toyota rules Says: July 3rd, 2008 at 8:10 am
dohcv8 if you dont like getting your ass kicked by toyota don’t come on this forum go to a holden or ford only site
Aahh; we could say the same about you and your views on Toyota.
Because I don’t think that you have realised that on this site there are actually articles about cars other than Ford Holden and Toyota.
Articles on which most of us real car enthusiasts have commented on and stayed on topic - that is until you get on and hi-jack them all so all we end up talking/arguing about is Toyota.
So much so that in most instances it ends up that the first 10 or so comments are about the Alfa Romeo Aston Martin BMW or whatever car the article is about and the other 500+ comments are about Toyota - and how the Yaris is a far superior car to any other car in the world…. given that you love comparing apples to oranges
Therefore; if anyone should leave this site and visit a dedicated site where they can rabbit on about their beloved marque; its YOU
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July 3rd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
There were actually more VWs than Toyotas used during the construction of the Snowy-Mountain River Scheme.
Their size meant they could make it up the narrow tracks and the fact that they were air cooled so the water in the radiator didn’t freeze.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I congratulate Toyota on becoming #1 However; I think that Mazda will soon become the next #1 - htey have gradually made their way up the ladder and are very close to breaking into the top 3 therefore; if trends towards more compact cars continue its only a matter of time
I belive the reasion for their sucess is because overall their passenger car range offers far better value for money than Toyota not to mention better looks etc just look at howmany 2s 3s and 6s are on the roads now ATM
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July 3rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Wheelnut…
I agree with your comments on Mazda and would love to see another Japanese product battle for the mnatle of #1. But unfortunately Mazda’s relationship with Ford mean that a lot of the commercial models will lose half of their sales to the Ford equivalent. Secondly Mazda have no ‘real’ 4wd’s and we all know that Toyota pretty much have that section of the market wrapped up (It’s not just with the sales figures but out in the real world Toyota 4wd’s work in this country better than anything else)
The one to really look out for would be Hyundai.
Luke GT/ Toyota rules or whoever you are. This is how you comment on backing a brand without resulting to outright insults.
Millatime…stop goading him or I shall reveal your true identity…LOL
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July 3rd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Fairdinkum … this is great, have a look at all the sqauwkers (spelling) going off.
I am honoured to have such influance … THANKS !!
So … not only has GM’s share price plummeted to new lows not witnessed for over 50 years and fears of bankruptcy protection but on the news tonight (for those who might have watched), Ford Australia has just withdrawn financial support from most of it’s V8 Supercar teams.
Haven’t seen the full figures yet for June 2008 but apparently the Corolla and Hilux both outsold the Commodore while the ‘Rolla leads the ‘Dore at the half way mark for 2008.
Better still, total half-year sales of Holden and Ford combined equal less then that of Toyota’s sole effort
OH WHAT A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING
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July 3rd, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Toyota Loser,
Don’t try to paint the picture that Ford are cutting funding due to financial strife. The truth is their total spend on sporting sponsorship will not change, and their commitment to V8SC, whilst being cut marginally, is really only being distributed differently. (Although I’m sure the bleating QLD media didn’t explain that)
BTW did you know Toyota’s market share in passenger cars has DROPPED 2%. Seems the fleet sales of the commercials are needed to prop up the sales figures.
Hiace busses, Hilux, Kluger, Lancruiser all up. Almost everything else down.
Yeah, Corolla 1, but down 900 units.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Luke GT - You call yourself an Aussie but you dont support Australian motorsport,You just keep crapping on about Nascar,OH and hows Toyota going in the FIAGT3 championshps,competing against the likes of Ferrari 430,Lamborghini Gallardo,Ascari KZ1rR,Porsche 997GT3,Aston Martin DBRS9,Jaguar XKR,Morgan Aero 8,Dodge Viper,Corvette Z06R,Ford GT,Ford Mustang FR500.Oh I forgot THERE NOT IN IT.Your like a villan in a batman comic “THE DRIBBLER”.Go back to America
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Bret,
what we have just witnessed is yet another example of how media has certain people believing everything they hear.
first it was the obvious believing of toyotas marketing, and now this.
ford is not withdrawing funding from V8’s.
Here is some quotes from the OFFICIAL press release, rather than a rendition of Dingo’s fantasy
“Ford Australia today confirmed ongoing significant investment in V8 Supercar racing as part of the company’s diversified sponsorship portfolio. ”
“This more targeted strategy, in conjunction with our ongoing support for other Ford teams and sponsorship of the Formula Ford Championship, will allow us to obtain the best possible return for our investment.”
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Andrew,
Yeah I’ve read the official statement too. And that was the point I was trying to get through to dingo.
Hey Dingo, did the Morons (no not a typeo) win the buggerby thing? Just imagine how much better that would be if they used a BALL. No! ya kidden me! Really? What do they do with the ball?
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Holden + Ford = Less then Toyota !!
* Fairlane … GONE !!
* L6 … GOING !!
* Jobs … SOME RETRENCHED !!
* 2007/08 Fiscal Year … $84 MILLION LOSE
* v8 Supercars … FINANCIAL SUPPORT WITHDRWN FROM MOST TEAMS
OH WHAT A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING
ps. I support Australian Motorsport, not just 2 American owned companies challenging each other becuase they are scared stiff to allow anyone else to enter - Nissan GTR anybody … oooch !!
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Dingo,
If you bothered to find out some facts once in a while - Financial support has been concentrated to just 2 teams (much like Holden).
The overall cut to V8SC is quite small. And, with one notable QLD exception, must teams have already admitted that it isn’t their major source of funding anyway.
I do feel for ol DJ, he puts his heart and soul into it.
And why have they done it? Not because, as you suggest, financial trouble, but rather to open up the field to other potential manufacturer support. The formula is on the move! Quite the contrary to you other B/S ascertion that they may be worried about competition.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Australian sales of Australian made Fords - UP
Sales of imported fords - up.
Australian sales of Australian made Toyotas - DOWN
Sales of imported passenger Toyotas - DOWN.
B/S your way around that.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Bret - sorry mate, i must have missed some of your comments … did you say :
* Toyota 25 600 ( + Lexus 700) = 26 300
* Holden 11 500
* Ford 10 200
Thought so ….
Holden + Ford : 11 500 + 10 200 = 22 700
Toyota / Lexus = 26 300
26 300 - 22 700 = 3 600 deficit …. OOOCH !!
What pages are you clowns upto in those little ‘Black Books Of Pathetic Excuses’ … there must a thousand pages !!
HA, HA, HA … OH WHAT A WARM AND FUZZY FEELING
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July 3rd, 2008 at 7:57 pm
luke gt
you are such a dumb arse
fairlaine - replaced by G6
L6 replaced by V6
profit well ha - its the R&D they do - something that Toyota DONT do in Aussie
V8Super cars - same $ just spent in a different way
Mate go take the meds and stop trying to alter history to suit your warped mind
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July 3rd, 2008 at 8:13 pm
is this the bit where we start adding other branches of motor companies to formulate 1 sales number.
whats the sales of ford added to Mazda? anyone?
sales doesnt prove a good profit, nor does it prove the best vehicle.
ill take the best vehicle for me rather than follow the other sheep.
sorry, but i want more than “just a car”
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July 3rd, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Go to ‘Drive.com’ and checkout the 2008 Passenger Vehicle Fleet Percentage.
Commodore and Falcon sales are now approx 84% fleet, up from approx 80% last year.
Also states that the Aurion infact sells more units to private buyers then the falcon while the Hilux Ute sells to more to private buyers then the Falocn Ute.
The Corolla currently sells approx 60% private and 40% fleet.
Unlike Holden and Ford … Toyota enjoys strong sales right across all facets of the market including fleet and Private which is why they are not only the world’s NO.1 seller (kicked GM of it’s purch … OOCH !!) but also consistantly the most profitable and wealthiest of all.
2007 / 2008 FISCAL year :
* Holden recorded the largest single loss in US corporate history by reporting a massive $40 billion loss in 1/4 qtr alone and ended the reporting period in dismal shape. Now (as reported) there is a possibility they may have to eventually file for bankruptcy protection and this comes on the back of multi-billion dollar loses sense 2004
* Ford has also reported multi-billion dollar loses albeit not as extreme as GM and did infact report a modest $100 million profit for the last reporting FISCAL year
* Toy