Comments on: Peugeot Citroen + Mitsubishi = electric cars

By: XR2_Capri

XR2_Capri — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:11:19 +0000

how many time do you 110 in the city? I live in the country and if I didnt go out of town and used it for going to work and running around town it would cost about $2.00 per week to run, not a bad thing!

By: Captain Mainwaring

Captain Mainwaring — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:17:01 +0000

Richo, time for a dose of reality. What percentage of electricity in Australia is generated by hydro? The real future of electric cars will be plug-in series hybrids with a small petrol or diesel engine acting as a generator for a large electric motor. Problem is the battery, which currently costs $40,000 and is not projected to be affordable for 30 or 40 years. In the meantime, if everyone changed their car every three years for one that uses 10% less fuel, this on its own would save many times more fuel than all the pure electric cars that are ever likely to appear on the roads in that time.
ps. A 250km range in a pure electric car is dependent on driving really slowly in city conditions. Get it out on the freeway at 110km/h and your 250 km becomes about 100.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:36:47 +0000

PSA make good stuff. Think of the 2.7L Turbo diesel in the LR3, Pug 407 and Jag XF. My Freelander 2 has a 2.2L PSA diesel that makes 400Nm and gets 9L/100 around town and 6.5L/100 on the highway in a 1800kg vehicle. My other car has a 3.0L six cylinder by PSA with great performance a great sound and acceptable fuel economy even in today’s world.

PSA know what they are doing and I’m confident they’ll get this right.

By: Steven A

Steven A — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:30:08 +0000

Can I put a deposit on one for my wife now?

By: Marketmaker

Marketmaker — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:13:02 +0000

Electric vehicles are true zero emission vehicles if ou want them to be, and they will still be much cheaper than any other option in fuel/energy running costs.

Offpeak power is about 8 cents/khw which gets you the equivalent of about 0.6 litre/100km. If you want to by 100% renewable power you can do it with most utilities. It adds another 6 cents per kwh – so you can run a zero emission electric car for the equivalent running cost of a petrol car capable of 1 litre/100km.

2010 will be an interesting year with about 5 manufacturers that I can see releasing either full electric or plugin hybrid “mainstream” vehicles.

By: Richo

Richo — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:09:31 +0000

I obviously meant a range of 250km’s, not 250km/h! The evo MiEV managed a (resticted) 180km/h top speed

By: Richo

Richo — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:07:22 +0000

Captain Mainwarning.. mitsubishi lancer evo MiEV managed 250km/h, and that was with 4 motors, needless to say the “normal” 2 wheel motored versions would be able to travel significantly futher.

Also their are alot of different ways to get electricity without burning fossil fuels, hydro electricity has been around for over 100 years!

It’s people like you with your un-necessarily negative attitudes to technological advancements which hold the world back. Bloody laggard…

By: Duck

Duck — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:53:32 +0000

The Japanese and French Combine! :D

By: Captain Mainwaring

Captain Mainwaring — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:51:00 +0000

Ever thought about what in-wheel electric motors are going to do to the ride and handling? All that unsprung weight. Never mind, it’s electric so it’s gotta be good, even though it will have a range of about 120 kilometres and will have its batteries charged by fossil-fuelled power stations. Way to go, Mitsubishi.

By: Richo

Richo — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:49:42 +0000

thanks Alborz, was just looking at that actually!

By: alborz

alborz — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:36:25 +0000

That’s correct Richo, you can find info on the electric EVO here

http://www.caradvice.com.au/10.....tion-miev/

By: Richo

Richo — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:36:18 +0000

a 100% electric powered lancer evolution with equal or possibly even superior performance to the normal evo thanks to the superior torque characteristics of electric engines? That sure is one way to make electric cars popular!!!!

By: Mitch

Mitch — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:34:47 +0000

looks like a cross between the new micra and Audi tt

By: Richo

Richo — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:33:18 +0000

A little know fact is that altough toyota and honda are generally recongnised as leaders in hybrid technology, and honda leaders in hydrogen fuel cell technology, its actually mitsubishi who are the leaders when it comes to 100% electric vehicles, with a number of mitsubishi i and colt “MiEV” models already undergoing long term production trials in japan for the last couple of years now and they are obviously ready to start production of the car next year.

Mitsubishi use pretty clever little “in-wheel” electric motors, as opposed to central electric motors which toyota use in their hybrids. These in wheel motors are not only fantastic for packaging as they literally fit within the suspension and wheels of the car, but also eliminate the need for a conventional gearbox. They actually put 4 of these in wheel motor (essentially making a 4wd) into an EVO IX and apparently it was a pretty awesome thing.

By: Frugal One

Frugal One — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:01:35 +0000

*****PRIMO!*****

If this was PRICED RIGHT i would buy one.

It will no doubt be a fantasy crazy price which will defeat the purpose….

Cheers

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