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	<title>Comments on: 2009 Holden Commodore range preview</title>
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		<title>By: CHRISTO</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHRISTO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wateva happened to the good old days of small cars with massive engine like the capri???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wateva happened to the good old days of small cars with massive engine like the capri???</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes bring back the old days, a commodore with a three place bench seat up front (centre dash air bag)(to replace the info screen) with no centre bin the car will be fitted with a gear lever back on the tree, no carpets, just vinyl, and under the bonnett a 4 cylinder econo power plant, a DI turbo 3.2 ltr v6 or the optional v6 diesel.

Holden bring back the working mans special,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes bring back the old days, a commodore with a three place bench seat up front (centre dash air bag)(to replace the info screen) with no centre bin the car will be fitted with a gear lever back on the tree, no carpets, just vinyl, and under the bonnett a 4 cylinder econo power plant, a DI turbo 3.2 ltr v6 or the optional v6 diesel.</p>
<p>Holden bring back the working mans special,</p>
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		<title>By: bow</title>
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		<dc:creator>bow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people who drive a v8 like the ss wont want to run their car on 4cyl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people who drive a v8 like the ss wont want to run their car on 4cyl</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slick

Correction, the dash is definately not user friendly and certainly does need an upgrade. It has allready dated badly looking not much better than a VT interior. 

Worse is that stupid hand brake lever made of cheap and nasty plastic that feels like it&#039;s about to break off in your  hand every time you use it, and if it doesn&#039;t actually break off it&#039;ll try very hard to take the skin off your fingers every time you lower it. 

Then there&#039;s the too low mounted information display screen that causes you to run off the road every time you lower your eyes from the road in search of it.

Or what about the range topping Calais that looks very very plain and Omega like, a common cause of complaint..

To see how an interior should be done go take a long drive in an FG Falcon, like the add say&#039;s about the utes (and true also of the sedan) you won&#039;t want to get out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slick</p>
<p>Correction, the dash is definately not user friendly and certainly does need an upgrade. It has allready dated badly looking not much better than a VT interior. </p>
<p>Worse is that stupid hand brake lever made of cheap and nasty plastic that feels like it&#8217;s about to break off in your  hand every time you use it, and if it doesn&#8217;t actually break off it&#8217;ll try very hard to take the skin off your fingers every time you lower it. </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the too low mounted information display screen that causes you to run off the road every time you lower your eyes from the road in search of it.</p>
<p>Or what about the range topping Calais that looks very very plain and Omega like, a common cause of complaint..</p>
<p>To see how an interior should be done go take a long drive in an FG Falcon, like the add say&#8217;s about the utes (and true also of the sedan) you won&#8217;t want to get out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Slick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is already rumors that overseas holden is no longer offering a 4 speed auto.. So expect that to pass onto us finally in 09..
6 speed auto will come with a slightly upgraded V6 to around 202kw? To piss Toyota off, It should stay there for some years, Expect the 180 to finally be scrapped for the old 190 with some added upgrades from the 195. But an option I&#039;m sure of the DI V6 will be offered also.
Holden has already got E85 V8&#039;s cylinder deactivation and DI V6&#039;s with 6 speed auto&#039;s humming around Melbourne right now, They are hidden in LHD Pontiac G8&#039;s.

One of the interior, They will have a lighter roof lining more the color od the VT&#039;s, Brighter inside it will make a large impact for people who were getting sick of the black. It made it&#039;s debut on the SportWagon.

There wont be a great change inside, More it doesn&#039;t need an overhaul right now, It&#039;s very user friendly the dash.. 
And lets not forget holden usually doesn&#039;t change displays dash set ups until there new model, This is like VT-VTII VX.
I say VTII and VX because those models share more in common then the S1 and S2 VT&#039;s did.


I think you are close on the Torana, I feel this is Holden future car into the next cycle. It should almost be the family size car we expect to have into the future, 
I&#039;m a big cars man myself, And i feel it will be a shame.
But that seems to be the way they are all pressing them?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is already rumors that overseas holden is no longer offering a 4 speed auto.. So expect that to pass onto us finally in 09..<br />
6 speed auto will come with a slightly upgraded V6 to around 202kw? To piss Toyota off, It should stay there for some years, Expect the 180 to finally be scrapped for the old 190 with some added upgrades from the 195. But an option I&#8217;m sure of the DI V6 will be offered also.<br />
Holden has already got E85 V8&#8217;s cylinder deactivation and DI V6&#8217;s with 6 speed auto&#8217;s humming around Melbourne right now, They are hidden in LHD Pontiac G8&#8217;s.</p>
<p>One of the interior, They will have a lighter roof lining more the color od the VT&#8217;s, Brighter inside it will make a large impact for people who were getting sick of the black. It made it&#8217;s debut on the SportWagon.</p>
<p>There wont be a great change inside, More it doesn&#8217;t need an overhaul right now, It&#8217;s very user friendly the dash..<br />
And lets not forget holden usually doesn&#8217;t change displays dash set ups until there new model, This is like VT-VTII VX.<br />
I say VTII and VX because those models share more in common then the S1 and S2 VT&#8217;s did.</p>
<p>I think you are close on the Torana, I feel this is Holden future car into the next cycle. It should almost be the family size car we expect to have into the future,<br />
I&#8217;m a big cars man myself, And i feel it will be a shame.<br />
But that seems to be the way they are all pressing them?.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill the New Look VF is expected to be released around June Next year and will most likely feature a new DI V6 a Diesel V6 and a V8 with DOD. At the same time as the VF is released Don;t be surprised if Holden bring back the AWD Crewman Ute. 

At The Moment there aren&#039;t any real plans to build a Territory like Soft Roader/Cross-Over Vehicle on the Zeta Platform. If there were any plans I think Holden would most likely import something like the Chevrolet HH-R.. which is also available as a Deliveryvan &gt; The New Sandman!

As for the &quot;Torana&quot; its expected to be released in 2010-12.
it will be built on the same platform as the new Opel Insignia and will therefore be able to be built in either RWD AWD and even FWD. The Torana sedan is &quot;locked in&quot; as it will also be sold as the Pontiac G6 in the USA.
However; there are rumours from within Holden that a Torana COupe could also be a possibility [GTR-XU1 or A9-X]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill the New Look VF is expected to be released around June Next year and will most likely feature a new DI V6 a Diesel V6 and a V8 with DOD. At the same time as the VF is released Don;t be surprised if Holden bring back the AWD Crewman Ute. </p>
<p>At The Moment there aren&#8217;t any real plans to build a Territory like Soft Roader/Cross-Over Vehicle on the Zeta Platform. If there were any plans I think Holden would most likely import something like the Chevrolet HH-R.. which is also available as a Deliveryvan &gt; The New Sandman!</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;Torana&#8221; its expected to be released in 2010-12.<br />
it will be built on the same platform as the new Opel Insignia and will therefore be able to be built in either RWD AWD and even FWD. The Torana sedan is &#8220;locked in&#8221; as it will also be sold as the Pontiac G6 in the USA.<br />
However; there are rumours from within Holden that a Torana COupe could also be a possibility [GTR-XU1 or A9-X]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Holden should release a new look commodore with new engines and lighter weight all at once to provoke more sales and a new market. Also add a suv to the zeta platform for australia. Does anybody know when the medium car/ torana is supposed to be released?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Holden should release a new look commodore with new engines and lighter weight all at once to provoke more sales and a new market. Also add a suv to the zeta platform for australia. Does anybody know when the medium car/ torana is supposed to be released?</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&quot;Why doesn&#039;t the VE Berlina get the curtain airbags standard now?&quot;

Are you joking right Andrew?  The Berlina has Curtain Airbags standard it has always with the VE.  And now the base-line Omega Commodore has Curtain airbags standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&#8221;Why doesn&#8217;t the VE Berlina get the curtain airbags standard now?&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you joking right Andrew?  The Berlina has Curtain Airbags standard it has always with the VE.  And now the base-line Omega Commodore has Curtain airbags standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t the VE Berlina get the curtain airbags as standard now? and when will they finally let the old 4-speed auto retire from its long term of service. Also get rid of the hideous handbrake and that interior seems a bit dull compared to the rounded and colourful features of the previous VY-VZ model. If I were ever to buy a Commodore never get the first version, always wait till the Series II or even the second major overhaul Series II. Also, Holden get that Torana made!! A 3-series rival is definately a good idea also as is alternative fuel technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t the VE Berlina get the curtain airbags as standard now? and when will they finally let the old 4-speed auto retire from its long term of service. Also get rid of the hideous handbrake and that interior seems a bit dull compared to the rounded and colourful features of the previous VY-VZ model. If I were ever to buy a Commodore never get the first version, always wait till the Series II or even the second major overhaul Series II. Also, Holden get that Torana made!! A 3-series rival is definately a good idea also as is alternative fuel technologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HQ ha, I think it looks more like a P76 (seriously it has a number of similar design cues).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HQ ha, I think it looks more like a P76 (seriously it has a number of similar design cues).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the CEO of LPGas Australia comments in yesterdays media reports, Australia has enough LPG reserves to run every vehicle in the country that currently runs on either petrol or diesel for the next 70 years. Surely LPG is a serious alternative for Australia, especially if the cost per litre can either be maintained or even reduced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the CEO of LPGas Australia comments in yesterdays media reports, Australia has enough LPG reserves to run every vehicle in the country that currently runs on either petrol or diesel for the next 70 years. Surely LPG is a serious alternative for Australia, especially if the cost per litre can either be maintained or even reduced.</p>
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		<title>By: Gift-Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gift-Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LPG is still oil derived though. Why not get away from oil price dependency with natural gas? We&#039;ve got stacks of it in Australia and its quite cheap and clean. Good enough for buses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LPG is still oil derived though. Why not get away from oil price dependency with natural gas? We&#8217;ve got stacks of it in Australia and its quite cheap and clean. Good enough for buses.</p>
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		<title>By: GhisGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>GhisGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOHCV8:

Great one! Looks heaps like a ... oh wait.. no. No it doesn&#039;t looks nothing like a HQ...

Freak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOHCV8:</p>
<p>Great one! Looks heaps like a &#8230; oh wait.. no. No it doesn&#8217;t looks nothing like a HQ&#8230;</p>
<p>Freak.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Richo,
Whether the commodore uses less fuel than an Aurion is debatable but my point is this: is this minor update to the commodore going to be enough to stop their decreasing sales with the price of petrol this high? I seriously doubt it. Hopefully the 2010 hybrid introduction will be enough to curb the decrease in sales, but who knows how much we will be paying for petrol by then.

They should follow Hyundai and bring a Hybrid + LPG model to the market. I think that would be their best bet at increasing their sales without having to rely on steady exports to maintain viable Australian production.

Just my 2 cents :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Richo,<br />
Whether the commodore uses less fuel than an Aurion is debatable but my point is this: is this minor update to the commodore going to be enough to stop their decreasing sales with the price of petrol this high? I seriously doubt it. Hopefully the 2010 hybrid introduction will be enough to curb the decrease in sales, but who knows how much we will be paying for petrol by then.</p>
<p>They should follow Hyundai and bring a Hybrid + LPG model to the market. I think that would be their best bet at increasing their sales without having to rely on steady exports to maintain viable Australian production.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents :)</p>
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		<title>By: DOHCV8</title>
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		<dc:creator>DOHCV8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It still looks like a HQ</description>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Donkey666 - Oh so buy a big V8 then drive it round on 4 cylinders, yeh make really good sense to me.
How you doing little bunnies, Oh you trees look bigger today. Toady toad says there&#039;s some carigenic fuel deposits in the pond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Donkey666 &#8211; Oh so buy a big V8 then drive it round on 4 cylinders, yeh make really good sense to me.<br />
How you doing little bunnies, Oh you trees look bigger today. Toady toad says there&#8217;s some carigenic fuel deposits in the pond.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Adam, thank god they are color coding the door handles now! that really did look cheap...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Adam, thank god they are color coding the door handles now! that really did look cheap&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw a new Omega on the road today. Looked really nice. I thought it looked a bit cheap and nasty with the old hubcaps, black door handles and black mirrors. Nice upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw a new Omega on the road today. Looked really nice. I thought it looked a bit cheap and nasty with the old hubcaps, black door handles and black mirrors. Nice upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^I wonder what TP has to say, oh crap forget about TP, Dingo&#039;s Coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hide from his stupidity remarks!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^I wonder what TP has to say, oh crap forget about TP, Dingo&#8217;s Coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Hide from his stupidity remarks!  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richo,
NO!!!! that cant be........
the Aurion changed the game, dont you remember???

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richo,<br />
NO!!!! that cant be&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
the Aurion changed the game, dont you remember???</p>
<p>ha ha ha ha ha ha ha</p>
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