Whats even better, people pass comment that the Falcon and Commodore are designed for Australia yet they are amoung the poorest quality and most unreliable examples that can be purchased today.

Infact, the Falcon and Commodore have an undisputable history of being amoung the most troublesome cars to have ever graced Australian roads yet they are ’supposedly’ engineered for Australia.

FACT … most Japanese and reputable European models have long proven to far more reliable and dependable in Australia then locally manufactuered cars from Holden and Ford.

So much for the ‘biult for Australia’ comment … it’s crap !!

And – with exception to the VE, every Commodore model has been nothing more then rehashed Opels – real Australian that is… NOT !!

5.0 V8 … GONE !!
Fairlane … GONE !!
L6 … GOING !!

And how Australian is Holden – simple … they’re not : 100% American owned powered by American engines.

Infact, Holden doesn’t even sponsor are very own National Sport – AFL … pathetic !!

Travel to the most challenging, rugged, arid and unforgiving landscape in Australia and what manufactuer rules the roost … that’s right – Toyota (not Holden)

Better still, the Snowy Mountian Scheme is one of the most historic Australian undertakings of all time yet what recognition does Holden have for it’s achievements … let me help – NOTHING !!

But i tell you what company does … TOYOTA !!

Don’t dare start me on the ‘Holden Is Australian’ arguement BECAUSE IT’S PURE BULLSH*T.

The very backbone of the Australia economy is suppoprted by Farmers, Tradies, Industries and the Mines yet Holden is not even the preferred supplier of motor vehicles to these markets… TOYOTA is !!

Holden is that pathetic they carn’t even supply Australia with a consistant fleet but import trash from Daewoo instead … if you want a 2 star death trap for your young daughter on her ‘p’ plates – visit Holden, they’ll be more then happy to supply such a car.

For those who wonna continue this … i’ll be glad to becuase fact is – Toyota Australia is every bit as Australian (or non Australian) as Ford Australia and Holden and they certainly have the history, market (farmers, tradies, industries and mines) and local manufactuering to justify themselves.

Toyota does use imported parts on the Camry but have 2 major suppliers in Adelaide and Melb so Austrlain business do benfit from this import. The main part of the engine is diretly imported.

FOOL!

Changing a few spring and shocker rates is “localisation” NOT “local development”.
There is no difference between Camry panels, here or anywhere else (with the exception of the interchangeable aurion panels which are a unique Australian stamping, but which, as a set, will fit an overseas built camry)

Also to suggest that Toyota Australia profits do not go back to Japan and that engineering and product decisions are made in Australia not Japan is just plain stupid and naive.

P.S GM which owns Holden also owns Daewoo which is Korean owned.

Ford which is American also owns 30% of Mazda another Japanese company.

Get with the program GOOD MOVE TOYOTA!

Then here comes Tom Gorman, a yank, and helps pull the plug on it. Apparently, Polites was so livid, he started an argument with the guy (I forget his name, he was mostly responsible for dropping the diesel) at a funeral of all places.

Yep, if Polites had’ve stayed after picking FordOZ up by masterminding BA, we’d have a diesel option in FG and Territory already.

then again the high horse is the only fun you have in your life because you drive a Toyota

FOOL !!

I agree with RealCars on this one, simple economics no competition = no good!

Toyoda are masters at deceiving the public, Hybrid head hunters, hey what about thier V8 premium petrol powered landcruisers, the government will say big heavy SUV’s are environmentally friendly too, Brumby and Dud Rudd would jump for joy if they had batteries “bluddy idiot”.