Also to correct Alborz, a large number of Diesel cars sold in Autralia still do not have particulate filters fitted as standard. These include the 1.9TDI and 103KW TDI Golfs, Hyundai i30 diesels and most light commercials such as the Hilux (but there are many others). The french makes generally lead the way in fitment of these devices.

Hydrogen is the answer………..”Hydrogen, being a fuel that burns cleanly, it can directly address polluting emissions.”

“When you burn hydrogen you produce only water, so there is no CO2 produced, so no impact on greenhouse gas emissions.” (HYBRIDS STILL WILL PRODUCE CO2 EMISSIONS AND ARE STILL RELIANT ON PETROL AND/OR ELECTRICITY).

Seems to me all people are blinded by this fact thinking it is the answer…..its only a stepping stone to next level (e.g. full electric or hydrogen)!

Diesel hybrids and LPG hybrids are much better and lower fuel usage!

There’s much more to it than that. Technically, Wheelnut knows a lot more and it was discussed in a blog here about a month ago. I forget which one.

The Peugeot 308 diesel hybrid is out next year.

“Your right with LPG being a viable option. Firstly on a cost perspective. there is was a test between a prius and a lpg territory that came out a draw on a cost basis.”
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trackdaze, can you provide a link or reference to that test please? I would be very interested in reading it.

you are comparing a completely mature technology nearly at the end of development life (diesels) with technology still in its infancy (hybrids) and yet expect hybrids to be better… i think hybrids are doing a damn good job staying competitive with ICE’s – which lets face it still command the majority of all R&D dollars…

by purchasing a hybrid – i am arguing that u are promoting this future technology – providing more sales to the manfuacturers which will enevitably led to greater investment and development into these technologies.. which means the end game of full electric vehicles is that one step closer…

Made in Australia, no need to give the scam-arabs a cent more than we have to.

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I would still choose turbo diesel over hybrids because of the much better performance for much the same economy.

The big change which is occuring at the moment is that many consumers are moving away from big heavy vehicles into smaller lighter ones. And also those who can’t live without their big heavy vehicle are finding they can get it with much lower consumption in the latest high performance diesels.

What has bigger greenhouse benefit – moving someone from a corrola to a prius, or moving someone from a push rod v8 truck/SUV into a high performance diesel sedan?

You could always have a diesel with fogger LPG injection! the government will give you 2grand for the conversion too.

Your right with LPG being a viable option. Firstly on a cost perspective. there is was a test between a prius and a lpg territory that came out a draw on a cost basis.

Second and more importantly is that it will untie australia from overseas oil. With billions of dollars not going to line sultans pockets our balance of trade will improve, which will inturn reduce interest rates and we can all dance in the streets drinking ridicously expensive alcopops.

That is until one of those silent priArse’s driven by a half blind ecomentalist delerious from the inner warmth they exude under the mistaken belief they are single handledly saving the planet.