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TRD Aurion Pro-Factory Xtreme (Pro-FX) drag car

By Alborz Fallah |

After all three reviews of the TRD Aurion and days of heated discussions here at CarAdvice, the supercharged Aurion remains one of those cars that we have agreed to disagree on. But there is no disagreement about this:

TRD Aurion Pro-Factory Xtreme (Pro-FX) drag car

The TRD Aurion Pro-Factory Xtreme (Pro-FX) drag car was finally unveiled today at Queensland’s Willowbank Raceway and it’s a seriously quick car.

The 350km/h dragster is heading out to the 2008 Winter nationals (Australia’s biggest drag racing event) soon, where it will put all 1300kW to use. Yes that’s not a typo, 1300kW of power push the Aurion from 0-100km/h in less than one second!

TRD Aurion Pro-Factory Xtreme (Pro-FX) drag car

Although you might question the relation between the Pro-FX and the actual TRD Aurion, given the drag car is rear-wheel drive while the Supercharged road going version is driven via the front, Toyota Australia motorsport manager Todd Connolly believes the Pro-FX “perfectly complements” Toyota Australia’s new range of performance-bred TRD-branded road cars.

“Toyota is synonymous with quality, durability and reliability, while TRD has added style, passion and performance to our line-up, today’s unveiling of the Ultimate Motorsport TRD Aurion Pro-FX takes us to a whole new level – this car has performance and excitement by the bucket-load.” Connolly said.

CarAdvice is currently road testing the TRD HiLux, stay tuned for a full review next week.


 
  • Phill

    Looks very fast and probobly is but it complements the TRD road cars about as mush as the Aurion aussie racing cars do.

  • Wheelnut

    Has about as much in common with its road going counterpart as the V8 Supercars do with the Falcon or Commodore. At least the Silouhette of a V8 Supercar resembles something close to the production cars..

    I mean Ben Bray has a 2500Hp Holden Ute which unlike this thing still looks like a Ute.. Oh and 2500hp = 1900Kw

    Yet that won’t stop Dingo / Lovin’ It / Supporter of Toyota Motorsport…. going “Toyota yada yada yada….”

    In Profile it actually looks more like a Holden Monaro

  • Wheelnut

    Does that mean Toyota are considering making the Aurion RWD and dropping a V8 into it?

    Oh that;s right… they don’t want to enter the V8 Supercars.

  • Phill

    Wheelnut I reckon it has less in common with its road going counter part,v8 supercars have there original drivetrain lay out and can go around a corner.Peace

  • Ford GT40

    Toyoda TuRD will be pumping millions into this just to get more blind recognition, it’s a joke and owners will be happy to have a large money sponser like toyoda on thier side, but in reality why would you bother with washing machines…

  • Wheelnut

    I notice they didn’t mention what engine the Non-Aurion uses to get the 1300Kw.. I doubt its a Toyota block..
    I’d say its Custom Built by someone like Keith Black or Edelbtrock.. eitherway I hope they’ve bolted the supercharger on properly – ha ha ha

  • Andrew M

    Phill,
    you are partially wrong.

    yes there is a relation where the V8 supercars can turn around corners just like their road going versions.

    but the TRD Drag car cant turn corners, just like the TRD road going version cant with out steering off the road
    i see a similarity……..

    well i dont need to head out there this weekend now, because ive bloody well seen it all now.

    you can actually hear the things both drag and V8 supercars from my oldies place.

  • Andrew M

    i was wandering that too wheelnut

  • Wheelnut

    350Km/h – to put that into some kind of perspective…. thats only 40-50Km/h more than what the V8 Supercars do down conrod straight at Bathurst with only 460Kw [620hp] – that’s 3/4 less power

  • Andrew M

    conrod is longer than 400m though?

    but yes 300+kmh is still impressive out of a race car that does more than straight line stuff

  • Andrew M

    dont ask me why i put a question mark after the first sentence

  • Phill

    Good one Andrew,It seems the only Totoya that can go around a corner is the aussie racing car Aurion shell.

  • Captain Mainwaring

    This has as much relationship to a roadgoing Toyota as a drag car with a body made to look like an outdoor dunny.

  • TP

    One of your best Wheelnut…. same speed… pity so muc shorter distance.

    You did say one intellgient thing, same relationship between road and track that the V8 Supercars have… no similarities. All this is and a V8 supercar is a shell… they dont even use the same shape either for aero.

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Oz

    For a bit of information on this car i will be glad to supply :

    The TRD Aurion Dragcar is infact a re-shell of the Camry that i have mentioned before on a few occassions on other topics.

    The car is infact owned by prominate and well known drag racing enthusiast, Tony Wedlock from Toowoomba. The car was imported about 9 months ago from the States and is a joint project between TRD USA and a drag racing company that i have forgotten the name of. I believe a second version is due about mid year… well, as reported anyway.

    Now that the car is in Australia, it is infact the property of Tony Wedlock as mentioned above but will be supported with mechanical and technical assistance from TRD Australia via TRD USA.

    The engine is infact a twin turbo charged 3.2 L6 Supra engine that produces 1800hp (1300kw) and passes the 1/4 in 6.5secs.

    So yes … it is a Toyota engine (Supra)to answer the critics.

    The car was originally the Camry Solara but upon arrival here, Tony Wedlock and TRD Australia decided to re-shell the car with an Aurion design.

    The car will be competing in the Pro-Extreme Class of Drag Racing with infact dictates that the engine must match the badge – so ‘YES’ … it is a Toyota engine.

  • Golfschwein

    Is it front wheel drive? It would get its power down more efficiently if it was, with no loss through the propellor shaft.

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Oz

    Wheelnut … please educate yourself about the car before passing utter rot.

    As i mentioned above, the engine is infact a twin turbo charged 3.2 L6 Supra engine with the car co-developed by TRD USA (now supported by TRD Australia) and a US drag racing outfit.

    And of course it has nothing in common with a standard Aurion but correct me if i am wrong … isn’t motorsport wether it be F1, NASCAR, Rally Racing, V8 Super Cars or Drag Racing all about expressing engineering talent … mmm !!

    The engine is a Toyota donk co-developed by TRD USA !!

    If you don’t believe me then i suggest you do some research before making a complete idiot of yourself on this matter.

    If you want a place to start – visit the TRD Australia website.

    No different with the TRD Corolla’s that dominate the Australian Rally Championships (ARC)… owned by Neal Bates Motorsport but co-developed with TRD Australia.

    Ongoing development, support and sponsorship remain in partnership.

  • No Name

    I suppose it has skinny tyres which improve the dynamics.

  • Golfschwein

    And the flush grille assists with mpg. Mmmm, delish!

  • No Name

    Does it use the genuine Aurion Flawpan TP. really LMAO now

  • http://realcars realcars

    Hey TP u can pretend your Car bed is a drag car now! Broom, Broom, Ha Ha Ha.

  • Ford GT40

    Does it also have battery power for back up.

    TuRD GOES GREEN !!!!!!!!!!11

  • TP

    No Name you are correct, the front tyres are relatively skinny to reduce resistance while the drivewheels are quite large in diameter helping grip

  • http://realcars realcars

    What are going to do about the wooden ones on your car bed?

  • Golfschwein

    No name, yaw too much! Now, if it WAS front wheel drive – and I’d really like it to be so that it’s, y’know, kinda similar to other Aurions – that’d prevent it you’reing down the drag strip!!

  • http://realcars realcars

    No Name I suspect it uses the Camry Platform like every other vehicle in the range. Ha Ha Ha.

  • http://realcars realcars

    “Toyota is synonymous with quality, durability and reliability, while TRD has added style, passion and performance to our line-up,

    They forgot to mention adding Torque Steer.Ha Ha Ha.

  • No Name

    Thanks TP – hey we’re only pulling yer leg dude.

  • Golfschwein

    OMG. It IS rear wheel drive!

  • Wheelnut

    Supporter of Whatever.. As I am not as interested in Drag racing as you obviously are [I mean it must take alot of skill going in a straight line...?] I merely made an enquiry as to how the car creates so much power

    However; I do know that the Brays cars use a Blown [KB] V8 therefore I guessed that as this is a similar type of car it would use a similar engine..that is all.

    It was a reasonable assumption particularly as the type of engine wasn’t specifically mentioned in the article – just the power output. which as it turns outis very impressive from such a small engine

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    Wheelnut – i appreciate your sensible reply.

    Just for the sake of it – local production of the Bolwell Nagari now utilises the TRD Aurion engine to power thier cars while Peter Kittle Motorsport who participates in the Australian Off-Road Racing (AORC) which compete with the ‘buggies’ also recently converted to using the engine.

    Reason stated, he wanted something that was reliable and strong and has reported favourably on the engine sense his switch.

    Good to see that the Toyota Supercharged 3.5 V6 is becoming recognised by different motoring groups.

    Actually … it is good to see that TRD Australia is starting to come up with the goods wether it be production cars and motorsport.

    Worth mentioning that TRD USA is flying high at the moment with thier successful ‘NASCAR Racing Package’ that has certainly injected alot of heat in the sport.

    As we speak, Toyota currently leads the Sprint (1st tier) and Nationwide (2nd tier) series while second to Chevy by a single point in the Craftsman Trucks.

    Don’t under-estimate TRD (Australia & USA) because they are here to get things moving and you bank on the fact they will.

    I take no credit away from HSV or FPV but at the same time it is good to see TRD will bring thier own talent and ideas to the market.

  • Wheelnut

    I think [from memory] that from the exit point at Tyrepower Turn [Forest Elbow] to the entry point at Caltex Chase Conrod straight is about the same length as the main straight at Hidden Valley – approx 1Km

    Part of that being due to the fact that Conrod also has coulpe of undulations and kinks init which the cars also have to contend with whereas a drag strip is usually dead flat or with just a slight incline

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    Wheelnut – how long does it take for a supercar to reach 300km’h … ‘about’ the lenghth of conrod !!

    How long does it take the TRD Aurion Drag Car to reach 350km/h … about 6 secs !!

    Cheers

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    Actually … probably less then 6 secs !!

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    Wheelnut –

    * how fast is a Holden / Ford Supercar … !!

    * how fast is a Toyota F1 … !!

    Would you put a Holden V8 Super Car up against a Toyota F1 at Albert Park … ??

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    If they can do this to a 3.2 L6 Supra engine, imagine what they could do to a Lexus V8 !!

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    Ooops – forgot to add :

    TRD Aurion Drag Car … 0 – 100km/h in less then 1 sec

    Toyota F1 … 0 – 100km/h in 1.9 secs

    V8 Supercar … 0 – 100km/h in ??

  • Andrew M

    whats the budget for a toyota F1 versus a V8 supercar?

    enough said

    how long does it take a toyota drag car to negotiate a chicane? or can it?

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    How long does it take for a Toyota F1 to negotiate a chicane !!

    See you at Albert Park in ’09 for a Holden V8 SuperCar showdown against a Toyota F1 !!

    Actually … the sentenace says it all really !!

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    You gotta admit … that TRD Aurion Drag Car looks the biz !!

  • Dingos Shrink

    Dingo,
    where have you been?
    you missed our session today, and it appears you have gone loopy just as i had feared

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    A loopy day, is a normal day !!

  • http://realcars realcars

    May as well pit the Toyleta F1 against a super car as they aren’t having much affect in their own class.Ha Ha Ha.

    These Toyleta supporters are a piece of work.

    First Aurion Go carts and now pretend Aurion Drag cars.

    Whats next supercharged Golf buggies? Ha Ha Ha.

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    Realcars : sorry mate – can you say that again, i fella sleep when you started to dribble.

    Not much of an effect on Toyota – you sure … WORLD NO.1

    Go back to bed

    6.5 secs 1/4 mile or 0 – 100km/h in less then 1 sec … yeah, sure – pretend alright !!

    FREAK

  • http://realcars realcars

    Toyleta TuRD made a dragcar called it an Aurion but it isn’t.

    Gee I get it now!

  • http://aca Oh What A Feeling …

    Holden and Ford race V8 Super Cars called Falcons and Commodores but the only ‘part’ resembalance is the shell/chassis

    Gee … i get it now !!

  • http://realcars realcars

    Don’t think u do.

    Ford and Holden RACING EFFORTS share at least some DNA with road cars whereas Toyleta effort is usual Toyleta bullshit exercise.

    Privateers build dragcars and they end up going and looking better than this fake Aurion.

  • http://realcars realcars

    Next the BS artists will claim that Aurion holds dragcar tittles.

  • Athletic Supporter of Toyleta Mota Spurt

    Gee I get it now. You are all freaks and clowns. I have just installed a Chrysler Hemi V8 in the boot of my Toyota Tiara. Sure, I had to put it in diagonally to make it fit, but watch this baby go.

    FREAKS!

  • http://www.ihatemycar.com.au ihatemycardotcomdotau

    Good one Toyota…

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota Motorsport

    Realcars – what bullsh*t … a Toyota engine that matches the badge (and design) in a dragcar co-developed by TRD USA and now co-supported by TRD Australia.

    This is a an impressive ‘Toyota’ Drag Car and you now it is.

    This is what i reckon the problem is though … Toyota is going strong at just about everything they are doing and people like you have to live in fantasy land becuase you haven’t got the heart to accept that Toyota is developing some fairdinkum performance machines … TRD Aurion Dragcar, TRD Aurion Road Racers, TRD Rally Corolla’s, NASCAR, Craftsman Trucks, F1 and so forth.

    As for production cars … todate they have the TRD Aurion, TRD Hilux, Lexus IS-F (which will be on sale in Australia in October) while the next generation Supra (FT-HS), AE86 and Lexus LF-A (and other ‘F’ series) remain under developing but nearing completion.

    Oh yeah … and lets not forget about the joint venture with Subaru either !!

    Appears Toyota / Lexus / TRD have more muscle to flex them some clowns would care to accept.

    YOU ARE PATHETIC !!

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota Motorsport

    Realcars – if the TRD Drag Aurion wins it’s class in the Pro-extreme then ‘YES’ – they ‘can’ and ‘will’ claim title !!

    What i find pathetic however is that Holden and Ford claim titles all the time yet they are the only 2 manufactuers competing in the V8 Supercars … mmm !!

    Gee – really hard to win when you only have 1 other manufactuer to compete against.

    PATHETIC !!

  • Wheelnut

    Dingo [or whatever your name is at this particular moment]Given that the TRD drag car has almost 4 times as much power as a V8 Supercar – I’d be bloody concerned if a car with so much power took more than 6 seconds to reach 300Km/h…. It’s all relative

    I mean you wouldn’t expect a Kombi for example to reach 100Km/h in less than 20 seconds would you? – because of its lack of Power

  • Toyotas still make the most boring cars………..

    You have to ask your self why are Toyota bothering,I mean they pass the public the worlds most boring cars yet build cars with passion if they want to try and prove something to themselves…why bother if your not going to give the world some excitement or anything that can match the real innovators of the motoring world,will they ever surpass the worlds best manufactures like Audi,Porsche,Merc and BMW ?? And why are we again talking about this car when there no more info given than last years thread on it,can some one tell me what is the fastest in this class in the world cause I cant find any information on it! Its said that this car is the fastest in its class in Australia cool……..but what is going up against it? Dingo your the guru of all motor sport perhaps you could tell us what is the fastest in this class in the world and what manufacturer is it? O and a review on the TRD Rolllux from CA next week……….I imagine it will get a 5 star rating from CA ! More Toyota crap to argue over if you can be bothered!

  • Wheelnut

    Why is it than that if F1 is so High Tech when compared to V8 Supercars [or NASCAR] that they still use Manual Jacks whereas V8s use Air Jacks? Is it because unlike V8 supercars F1 cars are so f’n fragile?

    And why do they need 3 guys to change a tyre in F1 when V8s use 2 and still end up with similar times.. doesn’t that indicate the V8 pit crews are as efficient if not more so?

  • ChopstaR87

    have toyota ever won anything in F1???? and dont they have a biggest of all F1 teams???

    Has toyota ever won bathurst or Le mans???

  • Toyotas still make the most boring cars………..

    Toyota cant do as well as Williams can with a Toyota engine in F1 at the moment,this will be Toyotas last year in F1 for sure I mean they have what 9 points to the Top 3 contenders that have 59 53 and 52 ……..so why your bragging at Toyota in F1 I have no idea!

  • ChopstaR87

    sorry correction for above – Biggest budget

  • ChopstaR87

    What about TRD aurion vs FPV typhoon…

    TRD = 240Kw / 400Nm
    FPV = 310Kw / 575Nm

  • booter

    i wonder if i will be able to rent one of these TRD drag cars next time i visit AVIS???

  • TP

    Chopsta what about 3.5L vs 4L…. the fact a regular Aurion has more power is quite laughably given this difference in displacement, unfortunately when you add performance bits that displacement adds a great deal. Mind you they could more than likely get that figure, direct injection variant of Aurion engine has 230kw N/A… add a turbo… but that wouldnt be reliable (like Fords aernt relaible)

  • ChopstaR87

    TP the Aurion has only been around for a couple of years so the engine hasnt had test of time as of yet mate…

    yes… but all you need to do is chip – upgrade exhuast and Intake – Hello 240-250Kw NA

    yes the Displacement is larger the aurion but still does 0.5L = 60Kw / 175Nm??

    Plus the F6 is second quicker atleast then the TRD.

    New XR6 vs aurion = a whole 5kws More – but 55Nm less and the ford Torque available a lot earlier!

    Plus the F6 is a V8 eater…TRD still cant compete with the big boys….

    i say line up G6E turbo againest TRD – same price – same class – Winner – G6E Turbo – this would be even fight

  • ChopstaR87

    and TP if you want to start to argue about displacement — your 3.5L TRD gets eaten by 2.0L & 2.5L WRX STI and Evos…

  • Joober

    TP, I read it was 240kw with DI, if Holden brings DI to their V6 line up here in Aus, I would expect Toyota to bring that one into latter model Aurions, BUT they need to move to an AWD or RWD platform, and I would expect Ford to eventually.

    Also, The rest of the responses on this thread is rubbish Dribble. It was a *real* task just to scroll to the bottom…

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport

    Chopsta – enjoy your Falcon with the 4.0 L6 as much as you can because within 24mths … it is ‘GONE’ forever.

    The 3.7 V6 that will be replacing the locally manufactiered L6 is infact nothing special.

    The new Mazda CX-9 utilises the same V6 that will be opted by the Falcon in due time has been described as the only let down on the CX-9

    Thirsty and a little ruff/gruff have been the words to describe to the 3.7 V6 that will begin powering the Falcon as of 2010.

    As for TRD not playing with the bigboys … are you sure about that !!

    Not only is TRD dominating the Australian Rally Championship (ARC), they finished within the ‘TOP 1/4′ of 104 original participants in the ‘Modern Competition’ of Targa Tasmania with the modified Neal Bates Motorsport Road Racing TRD Aurion not to mention what this article is all about … a 6.5 sec / 1800hp (1300kw) TRD Drag car that can excellerate to 100km/h in less then 1 sec !!

    The TRD Aurion is infact a very pleasant car with plenty of power on tap, huge levels of grip and dynamic ability while arguably exhibiting the best brakes of any locally manufactuered car.

    I also reserve little doubt the TRD Aurion will prove to be far more reliable and dependable then FPV and HSV which are not regarded as quality or reliable products … FACT !!

    Oh yeah – lets not forget TRD has also just released Australia’s first Tuff Truck … what is Holdens and Ford’s answer to this ??

    Even better – how pathetic is it that the only way Holden or Ford can claim wins is keep everybody else out of V8 Supercars … talk about not wanting to play with the big boys because the Blue and Red brigade are scared sh*tless otherwise.

    Unlike HSV and FPV who have been playing a part in Australia for about 20 years, TRD is a relative new comer to our market and still very much establishing thier presance on local soil but considering thier itinerary wether it be ‘motorsport’ or ‘production vehicles’ at present in such a short time … the worst mistake you could make is take them lightly.

    Oh yeah … how well do you reckon your FPV will compare to the IS-F in coming months ??

  • Wheelnut

    Quote [You Know Who]: Even better – how pathetic is it that the only way Holden or Ford can claim wins is keep everybody else out of V8 Supercars … talk about not wanting to play with the big boys because the Blue and Red brigade are scared sh*tless

    Dingo Drongo Toyota had the chance to take part in Australias Premier Motorsport Category
    Just last month they were asked by AVESCOif they wanted to compete in next years series as they are lookong at changing some of the rules etc but Toyota Said No…

    And as I have said on so many occassions [but yet again I find myself having to repeat myself just for you] V8 Supercars like all other major forms of motorsport has a set of criteria which outlines the criteria that the various teams/manufacturers must meet inorder to be elligible to compete.

    Besides it’s not the Ford or Holdens fault that Toyota don’t have a RWD family sedan [as required under the regulations]. Why the hell didn’t they make the Aurion RWD when the Camry [which is virtually the same size as the Aurion] is already FWD.. not to mention the fact its predecessor that the Aurion wasn’t that successful.

  • Toyotas still make the most boring cars………..

    quote “” Oh yeah – lets not forget TRD has also just released Australia’s first Tuff Truck … what is Holdens and Ford’s answer to this ??

    Um firstly tuff truck hahaha…rollux yep sure! FPV and HSV do real performance Cars and Utes unlike Toyotas half arsed attempt at either! Cant wait to have a laugh at the next TRD club run {I guess they too have a car club for its members}with their Camry’s and Hiluxs how funny will that be! Especially when they rock up at the drags………Slowlux against Fords latest n greatest F6 Ute…….

  • Wheelnut

    Oh and MR TOYOTA – If Toyota are that superior in terms of engineering and design etc [as you would like us to believe] then surely they would be able to build a car to break into the RWD Family Sedan market and compete in the V8s..

    Because from what you’ve gone on about for the last year or so Toyota would have no problem in building a car; entering a completely new market and beating the other brands that have been established in that market for years

    So why isn’t there a RWD Family Sized Sedan in Toyotas Range? Yet there are a number of “Double Ups” where cars that are similar style size etc are competing against eachother like the Yaris/Corolla; Camry/Aurion; the Kluger/RAV4/Prado/Landcruiser – I’m not including Lexus [or Lexii] as that is a seperate stand alone brand

    So Before you go off with such dribble in relation to the V8s keeping everybody out.. I suggest that you educate yourself and read the V8 Supercars rules and regulations. Nowhere does it state that the sport is a Ford-Holden only event its just turned out that way as no other marque makes a car which meets the criteria.

  • Daniel

    Wheelnut, stop being so immature.

    While I agree that Toyota _Australia_ sell boring cars, it’s not Toyota Worldwide. They were selling the turbo VVTi 2.5 straight six Chaser in the 90s while Ford and Holden were still playing with their crappy SOHC atmo pushrod pieces of crap. You also have the Aristo, Crown, and many others.

    While there was a perfect RWD platform such as the Chaser, Toyota Australia decided to bring in a superseded FWD piece of crap like the Avalon.

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport

    Wheelnut … lets talk fact here and not rot.

    When Nissan conquered the mountain and squashed the aspirations of Holden and Ford, AVESCO as they are known today set about establishing regulations that will most likely deter other manufacures from competing within the series.

    Locally manufactuted RWD V8′s form the basic requirement – am i wrong … NO !!

    That was implemented knowing damn well that companies like Toyota or even Mitsubishi (until recently) are not going invest literally millions of dollars to alter thier production just to conform with AVESCO requirements so they can participate in the V8 Supercar Series … how friggen convenient !!

    The regulations established were clearly implemented to satisfy the local operations of Holden and Ford without due respect that Toyota and Mitsubishi were / are equal manufactuers themselves but of different platforms.

    Basically said – AVESCO could have easily establsihed the sport to satisfy all local manufactuers at the time and not just 2 of them.

    Did they ever implement that blown AWD 6 cylinders could compete to better suit the local operations of Toyota or Mitsubishi at the time … NO THEY DID NOT !!

    Ford and Holden in the V8 Super Cars are a protected species .. PERIOD !!

    And what’s pathetic about it all – weak pricks like yourself hide behind it all.

    When Nissan graced the mountain .. all of a sudden Holden and Ford didn’t look so good.

    Now that Toyota participates in all three series of NASCAR … well, you guessed it – GM and Ford are not looking so good.

    I will never forget how hard you pussies cried when Nissan done us all the honour.

  • http://realcars realcars

    Yeah perfect platforms like the Corona, Crown and RWD Corolla.

    True shit boxes in their day.

    And as to the high tech engines available in Japan I suggest they were never brought at the time because Toyota knew that they wouldn’t go the distance in Australia i.e Cars cover more KLms on average during their life than in Japan.

    Toyota had their fingers burn’t with the twin cam straight six in the Cressida which in most cases had to have a complete top end overhaul by 100,000klms.

  • http://realcars realcars

    Yes, Toyota had it’s own KIA moments with the first V6 CAMRY,CRESSIDA AND V6 PRADO.

    Just ask any mechanic worth his salt!

  • http://realcars realcars

    Toyota and Kia have more in common than u think!!!!

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport

    Wheelnut – Toyota will not invest to make the Aurion RWD because fact is, the economics simply just do not justify such investment.

    The biggest challenge today and nodoubt increasingly so into the future will be to justify the added expense of manufactuering ‘everyday’ RWD platforms and most certainly not FWD.

    I can guarantee you that global economies will force the Falcon and Commodore to go FWD long before the Aurion to go RWD.

    Toyota is about production efficency once all thier stingent QDR (Quality, Dependability & Reliability) regime has been satisfied of-which has help made the company the wealthiest, most profitable and arguably the most stable automotive manufactuer of all which is a damn lot more i can ever suggest of Ford Motor Corporation or General Motors … PERIOD !!

    Unlike the yanky owned companies, Toyota is not reducing production (globally anyway), closing factories, retrenching employees, cancelling projects or reporting multi-billion dollar corporate losses.

    How Toyota Australia has positioned itself with the Camry / Aurion duo is very smart that will undoubtedly prove it’s economic viability much longer then the current operations of Holden and Ford.

    Infact, the Aurion and Camry combination today is selling far more units per month then the Camry (4 cyl & 6) and the Avalon ever did.

    The operation regime at Altona has been established so that the production of the Camry and Aurion can simply be adjusted to suit the demand of each vehicle at the push of a button.

    Better still … Toyota Australia remains (todate) the only local operation that has yet retrenched workers and personally – that speaks for itself without further justification.

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport

    Realcars … you truely are a clown that speaks pure and utter rot.

    4 local Quality / Customer Satisfaction Surveys were published in Australia last year and Toyota ranked within the ‘TOP 3′ for each and every one of them while Ford and Holden were amoung the poorest performers of all.

    JD Powers recently released thier 2008 USA Initial Quality Report which placed both Lexus and Toyota within the ‘TOP 4′ while JD Powers also just released thier 2008 UK Quality / Customer Satisfaction Survey which also ranked Toyota and Lexus in the ‘TOP 4′

    A strong indication from Toyota is that no matter wether Quality / Customer Satisfaction Surveys are published in Australia, USA or UK – they consistantly and constantly ranked amoung the best performers of all.

    Best part of it all … proves dimwits like yourself don’t even have slighest idea how much pure bullsh*t and utter rot you pass.

    YOU ARE A PATHETIC CLOWN !!

  • Sparky

    This is nothing special in the NHRA they are Toyota drag cars competing already.

  • http://realcars realcars

    Aurions that aren’t Aurions on drag strips and go cart Tracks.

    Toyleta NASCARS that run GM/FORD running gear.

    Toyleta Formula 1 quest the most expensive and unsuccessful in the history of the sport.

    Klugers that fall over when Journos test drive them.

    Turd Aurions blowing blue smoke from new and discreetly recalled.

    Toyleta supplying as many Aurions as it takes to get a five score at ANCAP tests. Holden donating 75 cars to train those that save lives.

    Pirus “Brain” originally stolen from American firm and legal proceedings ensue.

    Slowly the wafer thin veil that covers the deceit at Toyleta is lifted.

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport

    Wheelnut – your brain must uncontrollably bash about in your tiny skull because believe me … you speak utter pure sh*t

    You pass comment about double ups … are you sure !!

    Last time i checked, the Yaris and Corolla satisfy different segments of the market not to mention are the biggest sellers of all within thier categories.

    As for the RAV4 / Kluger / Prado / Cruiser crap … you have truely got the most twisted mind of all.

    Each and every one of those vehicles are completely satisfing different markets as the Yaris and Corolla do and correct me if i am wrong but each and every one of them are also amoung the highest volume moving vehicles in each of their intended markets.

    With such ‘HUGE’ success of each model … why would Toyota be so dumb and listen to a brainless twit like yourself because FACT IS … they are all VERY POPULAR VEHICLES !!

    Fairdinkum … you certainly have a loose wheelnut banging about inside that head of yours which has obviously done alot of damage.

    Infact – i feel sorry for you … i really do !!

    Seriuosly dude – you are completely f*cked these days … you really are.

    ps. I’ll give you a double up … Viva and Astra

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport

    Realcars – you are an utter loser !!

    Toyota’s success has finally screwed you up the ar*e so hard your brain now bleeds.

    Toyota runs GM/Ford running gear … fu*k off d*ckhead !!

    What’s so great about all this – proves how much a PATHETIC LOSER you are.

    Speak as much rot as you please but fact is, doesn’t change the fact that Toyota is screwing your beloved Holden and Ford up the a*se with a size 20 steel capped boot.

    It also doesn’t change the fact that you are clown !!

  • http://realcars realcars

    See what happens when they deviate from whitegood manufacture!Ha Ha Ha.

    Toyleta love is like no other love!Ha Ha Ha.

    The funny thing is that Toyleta wouldn’t piss on u if u were on fire Dingo!

    Fact that they produce a car like the Landcruiser and Yaris in the same breath PROVES IT. Road going TANK versus coke can with air bags.

  • http://aca Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport

    Sorry Pretend Cars : can you repeat yourself, i fell asleep when i began reading your …. what eva it was !!

    You just keep living in la,la land where Holden and Ford have pink roses around them.

  • CAR – ENTHUSIAST

    “Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport”, lol all u have did in ur comment against realcars, is prove that ur a total moron, FIRST, all u did is curse, swear, and insult him, and then u showed no fact to back up that TOYLETA isn’t running GM/FORD gear. (LOL NOW who’s the d*ickhead being F*cked up the A*se).

    And another thing for ur be-hated TOYLETA (or GAYOTA’s as i like to call them), Does this drag car resemble any thing with the On road TRD Aurion. Not one bit, at least wen some ppl do up a Holden, sedan or ute with 2500 HP, 1) IT still has the original body shell, 2) it still has the ORIGINAL DRIVE TYPE i.e RWD, and 3) it still has the SAME number of Cylinders as the Road versions i.e V8.

    LOL and what part of this DRAG Aurion resembles its Road car version, is it FWD (NO), is it V6 (NO), AND DOES IT HAVE A CAMRY BODY SHELL (NO), all it is, is a Roll cage, with a metal bottom, and a PLASTIC COVER, with stickers.

  • Jimbo

    Supporter Of Toyota MotorSport,

    I don’t know about the others, but with me you lose all credibility when you start each post with an insult and or finish one.

    Your insane level of loyalty to Toyota is commendable, however your not going to convince any of us that Toyota is an exciting brand that produces top notch sports cars especially when it comes to the cars they have on sale in Australia to the public.

    If I wanted a safe, reliable car for my wife who doesn’t care about cars we would buy her a Toyota. But If I wanted a car as an enthusiast, Toyota is one of the last brands I would consider.

    Sure Toyota made a fast drag car. Good for them, its not going to help the snooze fest that is their for-sale car line up!

  • PoisonEagle

    Admirable post, Jimbo but this guy is some sort of half witted headcase. If he has set the curve for Toyota Motorsport enthusiasts,then they make even the most bogan Ford and Holden supporters look like MENSA.

  • Wheelnut

    I think you mean Viva and Barina [Not Astra] as they are similar style carf similar size with similar engines features and specifications as well as similar [poor] safety – That is whats meant by Doulbe Ups..
    They compete against the Yaris or Fiesta whereas the Astra is in the same sector as the Focus and Mazda 3.

  • Phill

    Toyota treat the Australian motoring enthusiast with contempt,they give aussies fwd driving school cars,and give there good RWD models to other markets.Toyotas hottest aussie sold car in 15years is probobly the 141kw FWD celica(good for your nana)if you want a decent performance toyota buy a gray import its the only way to get RWD.Toyota want to change the game to suit themselfs, instead of playing the game we play RWD.Then they enter Drag racing and try to link it to TRD road cars,WHAT AN UTTER JOKE

  • Golfschwein

    We’re with you, Jimbo. There’s something seriously unwell going down.

  • Phill

    Could you imagine Ford getting a boss v8,supercharging it and putting it in a focus and entering the FWD ctatigory at the drags.Then clam its complementes the new FG Falcon XR8 perfectly.Todd i dont know if you heard of this,but check out this Unique car racing series in oz called V8Supercars

  • Phill

    If Toyota can switch a camry to RWD for dragracing why cant they do the same to an Aurion for V8 supercars Todd?????????

  • Phill

    I read Toyota make a pushrod V8 crete motor in the U.S(dont know the displacment)but could be eazly resleeved to 5 litre

  • Wheelnut

    That’s what I don’t get either Phill as V8 Supercars has a much greater fan base/following that Drag racing – therefore much greater exposure.
    And given that due the success and popularity of the sport there are so many companies wanting to sign sposnorship deals with the various teams I’m sure Toyota would have no problem in obtaining a major sponsor etc

  • Phill

    I agree Wheelnut Sponsors would be lining up,at the moment Toyota spend$400mil+ a year to be an also ran in F1.How much would the initial cost to develope a RWD Aurion V8 supercar be,5mil,2mil?????It would be money well spent.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Crap Dingo just found out where some of us have moved to cause were sick of Dingo………Were all on The Motor Report
    now seems Dingo has just found our new car talk site,but I must say with in 2 min of him arriving his first post was deleted why cause they have moderators watching! You listening CA……A car site you dont have to be abused at!

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Wheelnut – i would not like to see Toyota enter the V8 Supercars because personally, i believe it will not be money well spent.

    Lets have alook at the facts … despite Holden and Ford’s long term participation in motorsport in Australia of which continues today particularly in the V8 Supercars – judging by the continuing decline of sales of not only the Falcon and Commodore but Ford and Holden in general … why even bother with such investments.

    It is obviuosly overing very little assitance in improving thier mistunes.

    Without such advertising most weekends that Holden and Ford enjoy with thier duopoly of V8 Supercars, Toyota still manages outsell Holden and Ford combined regardless.

    People like yourself should be thankful that companies like Toyota are simply not interested in challenging AVESCO at the present time.

    Toyota has participation in much greater and globally renouned motorsporting events such as F1 and NASCAR.

    I completely agree Toyota has alot of work ahead of them to improve thier results in F1 but that said, thier participation in all 3 tiers of NASCAR – Sprint Cup, Nationwide Series & Craftsman Trucks – is certainly going very strongly for them and yielding strong, pleasing and competitve results.

    As it stands, they currently lead the manufactuers title in the Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series while trialing Chevrolet by negliable difference in the Craftsman Trucks giving them a second postion in that particular event.

    Australia is a small market globally and considering Toyota currently has considerable motorsport investment elsewhere, i believe they will be comfortable and somewhat satisfied with their current participation in the variuos forms of Australian Motorsport as is … ARC, Drifting, Drag Racing and of course variuos road going events such as Targa Tasmania, Targa West, 12 Production car racing and so forth with the modified TRD Aurion Road Racers.

    Toyota could just aswell spend considerably less in Australia yet achieve similar recognition in due time.

    No-doubt they have done thier sums.

    Infact, take Ford Austrlia’s public comment several months ago … passed statement that if the Falcon does not improve in sales then eventually they will have to seriuosly consider continued participation in the V8 Supercars not to mention it remains unclear if the next generation Falcon after the FG wil even come with a V8.

    If that possibility does eventuate – what’s gonna happen then … mmm !!

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Phil … if Toyota did come to the table with fists of money and no-doubt an extremely competitive Racing Package, i believe it would be an accurate assumption to pass that a fair share of teams would abandon Holden and Ford at the drop of a hat.

    If this happened and Toyota became a competitive manufactuer … what do you think is gonna happen to Holden and Ford then.

    Put it this way, if you think thier fortunes have taken a steep decline in recent years then it would be almost certain it will not get better.

    Personally, i believe radical changes will evenuate within V8 Supercars in the years to come and not so much because other manufactuers ‘may’ want to compete but because of the changing culture towards Holden and Ford.

    Thier own mistunes will probably dictate how V8 Supercars evolve over the years more so then possible outside pressure.

    Sure … the fan base is there but are the sales !!

    Take the Australian Rally Championships for example … not only is the support from fans and sponsors increasing but so have the number of manufactuers.

    Today … Toyota, Subaru, Ford, Mitsubishi, Honda and VW are current challengers of the title.

    GREAT TO SEE !!

    TRD Australia will have a strong presance in the events they have currently positioned themselves to compete within and you can be absolutely sure of that.

    That said, who knows how motorsport in Australia will evolve in the coming years.

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Phil – no manufactuer more so then Holden is treating our local market with contempt considering Holden is now the local supplier of Korean Daewoo Motor vehicles and a 2 star death trap.

    Holden has always been amoung the poorest suppliers of quality motor vehicles and have sold amoung the most awful cars to have ever graced Australian roads and remains no different.

    So what exactly were you saying about contempt …

    Put it this way, you speak alot of rot but the good part about it all … has little or no connection with the real world.

    I guess clowns live in la, la, land were all the flowers and roses are pretty colours much unlike Holden in the real world.

  • BIG JIM

    The Motor Report pfft its got nothen on CA

  • Bavarian Missile

    Ya think ? They run similar stories and seems unlike Toyota threads on CA……..no arguments that turn into abuse , plus they watch the site as I said within 2 min of Dingo being on there he was deleted ! Watch him rant on this tonight and nothing will happen.

  • Wheelnut

    Over the years V8 Supercars has gradually evolved to become the premier motosrport category in this country.. in that time AVESCO have made several changes inorder to give the punters what they want which is close competitive racing.. yet there is always room for improvement

    And despite what you might like to think the reasons for the rule changes etc at the end of 92 were; its hard to argue that the changes haven’t worked given the record crowd attendances TV ratings and corporate sponsorship

    As times change the sport will change.. who knows in a couple of years [in an effort to cap costs] V8 Supercars could become V6 Supercars.. this would require rule changes which could make it so that it doesn’t matter if the car is RWD FWD or even AWD

    Infact there are reports that AVESCO is looking at creating a completely new category “V6 Supercars” which would replace the V8 Lite Series. The criteria hasn’t been drawn up yet as AVESCO are going to assess how much support from manufacturers teams and fans it would have. However I believe it would be a couple of years yet – 2010

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Jimbo – Toyota’s success not just in Australia but globally is the product from establishing a strong, competitive, reputatble fleet right across it’s entire range which is much more then i can suggest for Holden or Ford.

    Take Holden for instance – while thier HSV fleet is strong and the Commodore OK (and nothing more then OK), the rest of it’s range is ordinary to utterly poor … PERIOD !!

    Toyota however have engineered consistancy right across it’s entire range of motor vehicles not to mention the prestiage reputation of Lexus.

    One point i agree on and that is Toyota has certainly lacked passion within thier performance cars in recent years but on the other hand – thier concentration elsewhere is what has made them the strongest, wealthiest, most profitable and arguably the most influential automotive manufactuer today.

    However, Toyota has equally recognised thier mistake in losing connection with performance cars and motorsport which is why they have been investing considerable resources in the past few years to re-establish thier presance in the markets they ignored for some years.

    F1, NASCAR, various Rally Series (eg ARC) including Tarmac Events (eg Targa Tasmania, Targa West, Nurburgring and so forth) will form the back bone of thier motorsport challenges while many production cars from Toyota, TRD and Lexus will increase thier presance in the coming years.

    Currently Toyota has the next generation Supra (FT-HS) and AE86 under development (not to mention thier joint adventure with Subaru) while TRD will enhance otherwise standard production Toyota’s as they have done Australia with the Aurion and Hilux.

    That said, Lexus will elevate development to rival the very best that can be found anywhere in the world today with the IS-F now available in most larger markets around the world while Australia will come online in October.

    The LF-A continues development while Lexus has certainly highlighted other ‘F’ series will make it to the market in the coming years.

    Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) through mainstram Toyota, TRD and Lexus will produce some good sports and performance cars not to mention tuff trucks which no-doubt will prove many of thier critics WRONG !!

    In Australia alone … TRD will nestle comfortably between mainstream Toyota and it’s prestiage market satisfied by Lexus and i reserve little doubt it will prove a great marketing tool.

    Put is this way … no other automotive brand selling in Australia will be as diverse as Toyota satisfying virtually every scope of the market ranging from small cars, 4×4′s to tuff trucks and prestiage motoring.

    And the best thing about it all – Toyota / Lexus supply a strong and consistant range of vehicles right across it’s entire coverage despite the diversity … now that’s what i call automotive talent.

    Can Holden and Ford do this … NO !!

    So – TRD will bring hotted up Toyota’s to the market and participation in various forms of local motorsport, Lexus will supply a whole different league of performance cars all-together.

    Now that is what i call flexing muscle

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Bavarian – no arguments rise because it is just predominately the same names on that particular site that were here which just happens to be the same ‘ole clowns who dig Toyota at any given oppurtunity and usually just shear rot not even remotely connected to reality.

    I noticed that report on the TRD Aurion was certainly a good one – had many good things to say about the car. First off : most bloggers started with favourable comments but then the ‘runaway circus’ joined with thier usual fairy land rot.

    Fact is Bavarian – you hate being challenged about facts of the real world so runaway and hide elsewhere with the rest of your ant-toyota gang were the roses blossom in la, la, land.

    What’s wacked-out about you most of the time is that you are OK until challenged but all of a sudden you go to sh*t – quickly !!

    It’s pretty pathetic that the only way you can dig Toyota is by hiding under a rock with the rest of the circus.

    What’s wrong … haven’t you got the spine to challenge me about Toyota because truth be told – all i have to do highlight facts about the ‘real world’ and you a stuffed otherwise.

    Typical pathetic Holden and Ford fan, get beaten then run away much like when Nissan conquered the mountain …

    “quick, quick – get rid of Nissan before they make a complete mockery of us”

  • Bavarian Missile

    Anyone tell me where Wedlock came out of his category today? Or hasn’t he raced yet?

    Here are the 3 teams and that catagory..yup 3 only………

    EXHIBITION EX HARVEY ROD
    EXHIBITION EX SIGNORELLI JOE
    EXHIBITION EX WEDLOCK TONY

    Now to the real racers ……

    Brett Stevens….what a racer

    Congratulations mate.

    Stevens clinched yet another one – becoming the first person to win three professional bracket championships.

    Stevens only had to make the field to take the title, and his newly found 2007/2008 Top Alcohol championship joins his 2004/2005 Top Bike championship and 2003/2004 Top Doorslammer title.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Fact is Dingo you got bored here arguing by yourself and came looking for an argument as normal,we enjoy talking about cars thats why we moved…you just rant,and thats why you get deleted and banned where ever you go.Drive,CA and now The Motor Report ,thats the fact…….dont like it mmmmmmmmmmmmm tuff ! Your not going to bait me tonight Dingo….night!

  • Phill

    What conncetion to the real world TRD cars does this drag car have,Dhead??????? And all those new toyotas probobly wont even get sold here no matter what you or anyone says(just toyota hype)And avsco only wanted toyota to support 3 teams(6 cars)also slowly but surly more and more horror storys are coming out about toyotas so called reliabilty.And Why do toyota want to help change our aussie motoring culture,(by not supporting V8 RWD racing)But support U.S V8 racing culture.Hopfully it wont be long before you go the same way as the tassie tiger.

  • Golfschwein

    Answer for you, Phill: None.

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Bavarian – i appreciate a mature conversation with the best of them but fact is … people like yourself simply do not exhibit such capacity. Instaed you have to pass utter rot about Toyota most of the time as your comments with the rest of the ‘runaway circus’ proved on The Motor Report.

    I don’t like clowns … simple as that !!

    Oh yeah – i just did bait you … easily done !!

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Phil –

    have you sighted the 2008 JD Powers UK Quality and Customer Satisfaction survey released about 2 weeks ago … ??

    Have you sighted the 2008 JD Powers US Initial Quality Survey … ??

    Have you sighted the 2008 JD Powers Australian Quality / Customer Satisfaction Survey … ??

    I suggest you do because if have concerns about Toyota quality then you are absolutely and completely kidding years

    Again … more utter rot from the ‘runaway cirus’.

    What is it with you people and your pretend little worlds in la, la land.

    Oh yeah … believe me – Holden and Ford with thier declining interests in Australia will do a good enough job themselves of changing thier own racing culture in time to come … mark these words.

    Put it this way – they’ve done enough changing of thier culture in recent years alone :

    * Holden 5.0 V8 … GONE !!

    * Commodore and Holden Sales … DOWN !!

    * Falcon and Ford sales … DOWN !!

    * Fairlane … GONE !!

    * Ford L6 … GOING !!

    * Holden and Ford jobs … DWINDLING !!

    Toyota needs to do nothing because Holden and Ford are destroying thier own culture not to mention a sizeable proportion of the market couldn’t care less.

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Oh yeah … Phil – correct me if i am wrong but wether it be F1, NASCAR, Rally Racing, V8 Supercars or Production Racing – isn’t motorsport about expressing engineering talent … MMM !!

    Does Ford sell a pushrod v8 in Australia … NO !!

    Infact, Ford probably won’t even have a v8 in Australia in due time.

  • ChopstaR87

    so how does toyota go in WRC…. do they even have a team???

    Toyota only every really competes in more local base competions….

    WRC…?
    F1… most money – shit team

    Have toyota even won le mans??? GT40- 4 years in a Row and 123 in the first time they raced the GT40 there…

    IS-F hasnt been release yet has it?? so cant talk about how good it is till it has arrived….

    Does ford need to sell a posh rod V8 when they have a the L6T..???

    who would win in a race – F6 310 or TRD Aurion.. both stock???

    Yes fords is in hard times rigt now… but the times are changing…

    2010-11 Ford Focus to be built in australia… does toyota build a local based small car?

    Have toyota ever been able to compete with Lambos and porshe or etc?? GT40 any one… lol.

    Yes the L6 is gone… but the engine replacing it was in the top ten engine last year wasnt it??.. and the Twin turbo has 321Kw.

  • http://aca Supprter Of TRD Australia

    chopsta – Toyota finished 4th and 6th in the Canadian F1 Prix this weekend which now positions them 5th on the manufactuers list from 10 teams.

    For the entire season last year – Toyota only scored 9pts but after 6 (from 18) races this year so far, they have scored 17 with another dozen grandprixs to go.

    They have improved … GOOD TO SEE !!

    That said – does Ford or GM compete in the pinnacle of all motorsport … NO !!

    As for the IS-F, it was released internationally in October last year to most of the more lucrative markets around the world while Australia will be the last of those markets to get it in October this year.

    The IS-F is an impressive car which has taken the challenge right up to the M3 ‘top trump for top trump’ and the various reviews around the world have certainly indicated this. While the scales may tip slightly in favour of the M3 for handling, negligable differance seperate the two cars while the IS-F is the favourite for outright biuld quality.

    you stated that Toyota only competes in local competition … correct me if i am wrong but F1 is the most international of them all.

    As for WRC – the old Team Toyota Europe (TTE) which managed Toyota’s WRC team was folded to make way for what essentially today is Toyota’s F1 team.

    Upon folding thier WRC operations, Toyota was infact the leading manufactuer and had won the WRC Manufactuers title for 3 consecative years before hand.

  • http://aca Supprter Of TRD Australia

    Great fewdays of NASCAR racing yet again and the winning teams this week were :

    Craftsman Trucks …

    1. Chevrolet
    2. Toyota
    3. Toyota

    Manufactuers points now stand as :

    1. Chevrolet 66
    2. Toyota 63
    3. Ford 38
    4. Dodge 31

    Nationwide Series (2nd tier) …

    1. Chevrolet
    2. Chevrolet
    3. Toyota

    Manufactuers points now stand as :

    1. Toyota 108
    2. Chevrolet 104
    3. Ford 69
    4. Dodge 49

    Sprint Cup (1st tier) …

    1. Dodge
    2. Toyota
    3. Toyota

    Manufactuers points stand as :

    1. Toyota 92
    2. Chevrolet 78
    3. Ford 75
    4. Dodge 63

    As mentioned earlier, Toyota had a good weekend in F1 aswell finishing 4th (Timo Glock) and 6th (Jarno Trulli) which now moves them to 5th from 10 teams.

    Cheers

  • Phill

    Poor sad Supporter of TRD Australia you should change your name back to Supporter of toyota motorsport becaues there nothing,TRD has in oz to cheer about.F1 is old news for Ford and why dont toyota engineer a V8 aurion supercar so they can show there talent.That right because they do not realiy support aussie motorsport,only reason there in the pro fx drag racing is they can get a car on the cheap from the U.S.If these cars were not already built in the U.S,theres no way toyota would switch a aurion to RWD just for us aussies.There becoming a bit un Australian.And if I am a runnaway circus,you must be the Ultimate gay mardi gra

  • Phill

    Not the gay and lesbian mardi gra,just the gay one

  • Wheelnut

    Dingo – These days motorsport is more a form of entertainmnet than it is product development. The race cars of today bare very little resemblance to thr road going production cars.
    Therefore it’s not really possible to attribute a car companies success/failure on the track to their sucess or mis-FOR-tune in the market place.

    Its most likely that due a number of factors such as poor management in Detroit and market trends.. that Holden and Ford would have experienced the same problems they are at the moment regardless as to whether or not they had Factory Backed Race Teams.

    Sure winning a major race such as bathurst might have some impact on sales but nowhere near as musch as what it used to back in the 70s when the cars were actual production cars not specially built engineered race cars

    No; despite what happens on the track these days most [logical] people are going to buy the car that is most suitable to their needs and within their budget

  • Phill

    Toyota aurion has a sad history in Oz so far,Pulled from sale for fear of engine failuers,withdrawn from the bathurst 12hr for the same thing and beaten by Mazda MPS in the targa.For a guy called dingo your not very Australian,you could also change your name again to Coyote it would fit your american motorsport agenda better.

  • Phill

    How do you make an Aurion competitive?????Make a body shell and put it on somting else.

  • Ford GT40

    Just curious, can you buy a awful Aurion V8 or crap Camry V8, if I bluddy well can’t, what relationship does Grandma Toyoda have with motorsport, does the V8 power in a F1 come from the petrol waster Landcruiser model.

    Toyoda does not make sense, maybe a good 90% of the fans are, FWD skinny wheel spinning, bowler hat, cardigan wearing retired people, so in ten years time they will lose a generation and Toyleta will have think about fooling more of the public to start a new one.

    Can’t answer these question Dingo FOOL..

    Get back in ya hole and get a life..

  • Toyota Still The Worlds Most Boring Cars……………

    Congrats to BMW last night in the Formula 1 for first and second place..now second in the Manufacturers Championship.

    Toyota still not good enough to beat the big boys in the worlds most esteemed Motoring event…….hows that World domination going Toyota seems like your failing in a lot of areas.Apparently not too good by,by Toyota out of Formula 1 next year,all together……ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Toyota thus far Total Points

    Australian 16 Mar 2008 0 0
    Malaysian 23 Mar 2008 5 5
    Bahrain 06 Apr 2008 3 8
    Spanish 27 Apr 2008 1 9
    Turkish 11 May 2008 0 9
    Monaco 25 May 2008 0 9
    Canadian 08 Jun 2008 8 17

    Oh and don’t start again on the IS-iF against the M3…..
    Quote “”IS-F is the favorite for outright build quality.”" your opinion Dingo, everything I have read has the M3 out front where it counts,Lexus are great at coping and making big comfy cars,no soul when it comes to performance! Formula 1 shows you that.

  • http://aca Supporter Of TRD Australia

    Wheelnut … more pathetic excuses time after time.

    It was people exactly like yourself who have heavily critised Toyota over the years for thier lack of participation in motorsport but when they start re-investing into variuos forms and particularly when they start producing results, it it then the very same clowns who then start making up ridiculous excuses how motorsport these days bares no resemblance to production cars.

    As i have stated so many times now … correct me if i am wrong but wether it be F1, NASCAR, Rally Racing, V8 Supercars, Drag Racing and so forth – isn’t it all about expressing engineering excellance ??

    AM I WRONG … NO !!

    You are absolutely full of it wheelnut … you really are !!

    Toyota is damned if they do and damned if they don’t which proves you are not an enthusisast in the slighest but nothing more then just another everyday, one-eyed bogon.

    It has never been any different for many generations … typical bogons have always been full of pathetic excuses time after time.

    No wonder the Australian population has been moving away from the mainstream of Holden and Ford because they have had enough of thier weakness not to mention have discovered much, much better vehicles amoung the divesre range on offer these days … THANK GOD !!

  • http://aca Holden Sells The Most Awful Cars Of All … Daewoo’s

    Phil … sorry mate – how many cars did you say Holden and Ford sold last month.

    * 2006 – Toyota flogged Holden by 66 000 units … oooch !!

    * 2007 – Toyota slaughtered Holden by 90 000 units … OOCH !!

    * 2008 – Toyota to commit genocide against Holden by inexcess of 100 000 units … AAARRRGGGHHH !!

    * Holden 5.0 V8 … GONE !!

    * Holden Jobs …. GOING !!

    * Holden Sales … NEW LOWS !!

    * Commodore Sales … NEW LOWS !!

    * Ford Jobs … GOING !!

    * Ford Sales … NEW LOWS !!

    * Falcon Sales … NEW LOWS !!

    * Fairlane … GONE !!

    * Ford L6 … GOING !!

    * V8 option … PROBABLY TO GO !!

    * 2008 Ford Report … $85 MILLION DOLLAR LOSS !!

  • Duck

    ^Dingo STOP CHANGING YOUR NAME IT’S BLOODY OBVIOUS AND POINTLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE’VE HEARD THAT CRAP BEFORE SO SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://aca Holden Sells The Most Awful Cars Of All … Daewoo’s

    Wheelnut – guided by your comment 9th June 09:32am … i guess it would be an accurate assumption that you will never brag about Holden and Ford in motorsport ever again !!

    Ford GT – sorry bloke, in future if i want a car engineered for the enthusiast that are amoung the most appealing of all, i will direct myself to Holden to make a hard decision which Daewoo will suit me and my family best.

    Of course i will be sure to recommend the 2 star death trap Barina to all the young, inexperinaced ladies on thier ‘P’ plates.

    Phil – Australian Rally Championships … yeap, our own local rally event and ofcourse ‘yours truely’ is the dominate team in the series. And unlike V8 Supercars, actually has more then 2 manufactuers – 6 infact !!

    TRD Australia currently invests in the following :

    1. Australian Rally Championships (ARC) … Neal Bates and Simon Evans

    2. Drifting … Beau Yates

    3. Drag Racing … Tony Wedlock

    4. Road Racing (TRD Aurion) … Neals Bates & Simon Evans

    5. Australian Off-Road Racing (buggies) … Peter Kittle

    6. Hilux Hereos

    7. and … supplies engines (Supercharged 3.5V6 from the TRD Aurion to the Bolwell Nagari operation.

    Peter Kittle also utilises the blown Toyota six in his Off-Road Buggy.

    So … what exactly were you saying about Toyota Australia is doing nothing for local motorsport.

    YOU ARE A DEADSET CLOWN

    Oh yeah – how pathetic is it for Holden and Ford to advertise in the V8 Supercar Series most weekends just to have Toyota outsell them combined … OOCH – that would have to be painful.

    After all the years of motorsport in Australia how is it helping the Blue and Red brigade now – let me help you … IT AIN’T !!

    Seriuosly – why even bother !!

    Toyota will no-doubt invest less in motorsport in Australia but still gain similar recognition (in time) not to mention while doubling the sales of Holden and Ford.

  • http://aca Holden Sells The Most Awful Cars Of All … Daewoo’s

    Fairdinkum Duck … pretty bloody obvious it’s me – as if it’s not !!

  • http://aca Ford Reports $85 Million Dollar Loss

    Just Curious … can you buy a pushrod V8 from Ford ??

  • Adam

    The rants on here are hilarious. Obviously no-one mentions that the rest of the world gets the new Corolla and we get the “old-new” version. Old suspensions and engines. Also we get the Hilux for ‘developing’ nations not the one for the rest of the world. Thanks Toyota. By the way i own neither Holden or Ford.

  • http://aca Ford Australia Has Virtually No Export Market

    Holden races a 5.0 V8 but sells a 6.0, 6.2 and even a 7.0 but sells no 5.0 … mmm !!

    So when the Commodore finally ends production in a few years to come, what are they gonna race then … a Daewoo Viva !!

    If Ford ends it’s V8 option in the Falcon in the next generaion model … i suppose Holden will be the only manufactuer remaining to be eligable to compete in V8 Supercars.

    Ofcourse AVESCO will dare not change th rules because it must be a locally manufactured RWD V8 and nothing else so i guess Ford will be out of the race – FOREVER !!

  • http://aca TRD Hilux

    Sorry Adam, i must have missed it … is that the same Hilux that is the most popular with the farmers, tradies, industries, mines and private buyers.

    Of course the Ranger is not built in Thailand – is it … NAA !!

    Actually, i believe the Toyota Hilux comes with a 4 star NCAP Crash Rating compared to 3 stars for the Rodeo, Ranger, BT50 and Navara … mmm !!

    Oh yeah, by the way – i own 2 Toyota’s

    ps. it takes the sales of the Rodeo, BT-50 and Ranger combined to match the sole effort of the ‘LUX’ … do i need to say any more ??

  • Adam

    You must be confused. I wasn’t talking sales or how people are ‘hood-winked’ in buying crap. All i stated is that they do sell it here and i wouldn’t personally buy it. But by all means you have and obviously like it. I don’t own Ford or Holden I stated that but i just cannot stand Toyota. Just my personal opinion. As you are entitled to yours :-)

  • http://aca Offroad.com.au

    Go to ‘offroad.com.au’ and read up about the Finke Desert Endurance Race over the weekend (6 – 9 June 2008) not to mention the Peter Kittle TRD Off-Road Buggy powered by the Toyota Supercharged 3.5 v6 (yes, the same donk in the TRD Aurion) just won it’s class to become the new Desert Kings.

    The Desert Race over the weekend was apart of the Australian Off-Raod Racing (buggy)series.

    Another good testing ground for the Toyota engine not to mention TRD’s participation in another Australian Motorsport Event

    Read all about the race as i am sure many of you bloggers will find it interesting considering many buggies are powered by Holden and Ford V8′s aswell.

  • http://aca Offroad.com.au

    Sorry Adam, i was stating some market facts about the Hilux, that’s all.

    Don’t be confused, i’m not !!

  • Adam

    Ha ha obviously you were confused. I didn’t have a go at you personally but obviously you take comments about Toyota personally. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Funny, funny, funny.

  • Ford GT40

    Dingo has discovered a new category of racing called OFFROAD, GEEEEEZ !!!!!!!! he is going to be so busy with all the racing updates for Grandpa motorsport Toyoda, including latest stats, having so much love for Toyoda spells gay intentions..

    OH WHAT A MORON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Adam

    Nissan, Ford, or Holden don’t need to put decals on a workhorse and call it sporty when it obviously isn’t. I mean who would buy a TRD Hilux for decals and cheap body kit. Also, what’s with that red in the interior. Also Toyota had to drop the price on the TRD Aurion as no-one bought them… oh and people still are not buying them. :)

  • Ford GT40

    How’s your Toyoda Fwd skinny wheel Mardi Gras float going Dingo, give us some stats on performance, I want to know if the gimcrack build rises above expectations and does leather become the theme of your act.

  • Wheelnut

    Holden are currently working on bringing a car similar in design etc to the TT-36 Torana Concept car into Production within the next couple of years as it is also going to become the New Pontiac G6

    Holden are also reportedly planning to EXPAND the Elizabeth factory NOT close it down [they've got enough land etc] to add a couple of extra lines and make the plant even more flexible.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if what was the TT-36 Torana becomes the the new Compact Commodore particularly cas it will use the same platfrom as the new Insignia which can be made in RWD FWD and AWD layouts

    I doubt that Holden will get rid of the “Commodore” [name] as its a car people know and trust

    As for Daewoos – Holden CEO mark Reuss recently returned from Europe where he looked at a number of new Opels including the Insignia so Dumb-arse Dennys Daewoo Disaster is most likely coming to an end within the next couple of years as well.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Gee I thought I could be funny at times………FORD GT and Adam you are hilarious…..

  • Golfschwein

    Interesting comments, Wheelnut. Yes, work must be well advanced on the Torana, as 2010-2011 (the timeframe leaked in the GM report) is looming quickly.

    But can the Daewoo alliance be so readily undone? Plenty would like to see that, of course, but with Holden’s Australian designers and engineers actually living and working in South Korea on future projects, what are the real possibilities of cutting the cord?

  • http://aca Holden … Australia’s Next Generation Daewoo Shop

    Yaaaawwwwn … Zzzzzzzz ….

    Ooops …. sorry …. the shear bordem of reading these replys put me to sleep.

    I woke up and found the rest of the family asleep next to me and asked what happend – they replied … “we were reading the same replys”

    Adam – what are all those decal things covering a GT Falcon …. mmm !!

    Wheelnut – people trust the Commodore to breakdown and it is completely dependable of doing that … HA, HA, HA !!

    OH WHAT A FEELING … TOYOTA – AUSTRALIA’S NO.1

    KING OF THE ROAD … LANDCRUISER

    FORD … FOUND ON RUBBISH DUMP

    HOLDEN … DAEWOO

    HOLDEN + FORD = LESS THEN TOYOTA …. OOOCH – THAT IS HEART RIPPER

  • Golfschwein

    Are they asleep or unconscious?

  • A nonny mouse

    Toyota – over a million recalls in 3 years OOOCH!

    Oh What a faliure… AAAAH!

  • Wheelnut

    There are currently a40 odd comments on this thread about the TRD Non Aurion RWD 1300HP Twin Turbo Supra V6 Extreme Pro Drag Car…. However; there are approximnatley 19 or so comments which relate to the actual car.

    Doesn’t that tell you something about the car and how interested people are in it

    The rest are mostly MR TOYOTA on the offensive yet again attacking people other makes and forms of motorsport etc

    He says we don’t know.. which is right.. we don’t know cos we don’t f’n care!

  • Wheelnut

    Golfie -

    Holden are going to import the Insignia the New Corsa and the Aglia…. Opel GT would be nice though [MX-5 Rival]

    However; they will continue to import Daewoos which; going from what my mates at Holden have told me they will be sold as Daewoos not Holdens. The only exception will be the Captiva/Antara

    ATM Daewoo are at the same stage Hyundai were 5-10 yrs ago but having seen some initial designs for upcoming future models that will change within the next 5-10 years.. as it disd with Hyundai

  • http://realcars realcars

    I think Dingo need a good……Toyota

  • http://aca Visit ‘TRD Australia’ Website

    For those who may be interested, visit the official ‘TRD Australia’ website and click onto ‘othersports’ … there is an article and pictures of the new TRD Dragcar that i am sure some of you will find interesting.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Yeah visited the site and! Tells me nothing I didn’t already know……..I actually know more about it than than……

    How did it do on the weekend against 2 others in its class……yep 2!! Fastest in Australia I guess 1 of 3 would make it come 1st 2nd or 3rd wouldn’t it. Anyone interested in How pathetic Toyota did in the Formula 1 again last night click on to Formula 1 and look up manufacturers results…..and have a good laugh!ouch did that hurt.mmmmmmmmmm

  • DOLLAR MAN

    Pro-fx? Are they having us on? Who is organising this? where are the rules? where are the records?
    I rang ANDRA (drag racing governing body) and they dont want anything to do with it. Its suppose to run in the existing bracket sports compact pro rear wheel drive.Get a life toyota and join the rest of the racing, dont try to creat another.

  • Wheelnut

    Quote [DINGO] Wheelnut – guided by your comment 9th June 09:32am … i guess it would be an accurate assumption that you will never brag about Holden and Ford in motorsport ever again !!…. If you are talking about this one -

    Dingo – These days motorsport is more a form of entertainmnet than it is product development. The race cars of today bare very little resemblance to thr road going production cars.

    Then NO; I will always congratualte the Holden or Ford team or driver for winning a particular race because
    given that the cars are so evenly matched and the competition is so close it comes down to the teams tactics and preparation as well as the drivers skill etc as to who wins

    As JC pointed out over the years – Motorsport has given very little to the development of the road car… I mean I have never seen an F1 or NASCAR with Airbags nor have I seen a Hybrid Rally Car etc

    If it was more about development then youd have various manufacturers spending unlimited amounts of money on their race cars and would end up with a 2500hp V16 Corolla [for example] competing against a stock standard Volvo C30 or something – totally ridiculous and utterly boring.

    And IF the engine in the Aurion was F1 inspired shouldn’t it sound like a rusty circular saw as well?

  • http://AustralianCarAdvice Supporter Of Toyota Motorsport

    Wheelnut – motorsport is about expressing / demonstrating engineering expertise no matter what form it comes in.

  • Wheelnut

    if that’s so; then when can we expect to see the 2500HP V16 Corolla?

  • toyota rules

    what is wrong with you guys this site is here simply to show people what a 6 cyl toyota drag car can do it has nothing to do with other types of motor sport if you dont like dragracing you should not be on this site!!some of the material about tony’s car is correct but not all, the car now has a trd aurion front it is powered by a 6cyl 2jz supra motor with standard toyota block head & ignition it has 1800hp and has one hell of a monster turbo hanging off it (single not double)and a 5 speed pro-stock gearbox it has run 6.45sec 1/4 mile! and for the trd aurion knockers out there in the celebrity challange at the winternationals last saturday a standard trd aurion ran 13.6 1/4 mile not bad for a front driver you wont get a hsv gts to do that,the latest wheels magazine has a test between a 6 speed hsv gts 13.7@167kmh and a ford fpv gt 14.4@169kmh the trd aurion beats them both in standard form!

  • Wheelnut

    QUOTE: if you dont like drag racing you should not be on this site!!

    I believe that the initial purpose of this website was for fellow car enthusiasts to hold civil discussions about a wide range of vehicles both past present and future as well as other automotive related topics such as V8 Supercars etc. It’s NOT a site specifically or exclusively dedicated to Drag Racing

    Yet the fact that there are 150 comments so far and less than 20 comments which actually refer to the Pro Extreme Drag Racer should give you an idea how much people on this site are interested in the car or the sport…. Not many

    Therefore; I suggest that if you are interested in Drag Racing so much.. that its you who shouldn’t be on this site.

  • Bret

    Toyota Rules NOT,
    Surely you aren’t silly enough to think that tests done by a magazine on a dusty country tack/airstrip can be compared to times on a gripped up drag strip in the middle of a competition? Then again, given your obvious blinkered vision, maybe you are.

  • toyota rules

    wheelnut i am not talking about caradvice.com.au i am referring to the artical about tony wedlocks dragcar but it seems to me that everyone is just knocking the sport just remember there are all types of motorsports “i dont like v8 super cars” but i dont come on here knocking them everyone has there own motorsport to follow!

  • Golfschwein

    That’s not Dingo!

  • http://aca Go TRD …

    Receieved my much awaited reply (email) from Bob Connolly today (Manager of TRD Australia) and learn’t more about the groups current and future endevours in Australian Motorsport.

    For those who are interested, i will quote a sentance from his reply …

    quote ” Peter Kittles Off-road buggy uses a 2GR-FE engine (V6 Aurion)and we have learn’t alot about this engine in the process. As a result, we are now looking at a development of this engine to use in Drag Racing” unquote

    Peter Kittle participates in the Australian Off Road Championships (buggies) and just won his category in last weekends Fynke Desert Endurance Challenge.

    For more info onthe sport visit … offroad.com.au

    Bob also confirmed that Neal Bates is playing a large part in the development of TRD in Australia not to mention they received valuable data about the TRD Aurion’s participation in Targa Tasmania while utilising the supercharged 2GR-FE engine in a variety of motorsport events is proving an excellenat R&D tool for current and future development.

    Cheers

  • Phill

    GO TRD next time you send bob or todd(are they the same person) an email ask him has he heard of V8 Supercars.And how exactly a imported camry dragcar with a stright 6,the drivetrain changed to RWD and topped off with a moulded Aurion body shell relate to the road going Aurion?Oh it must be the 4 wheels

  • TP

    Phill and how does a V8 super relate to a Falceon or Commodore? ITS JUST A SHELL. Oops I may have just destroyed your little fairy world, Im guessing you still think they actually have similarities to production vehicles!

  • http://realcars realcars

    There’s no love like Toyota love!

    OUT COME THE FAIRIES

  • Phill

    You reaily have no idea do you TP just useless speel.

  • http://realcars realcars

    I agree Phil. Just another blatant marketing exercise.

    Nothing more.

    Toyota trying to give the Aurion some bullshit motorsport credibility.

    I say bullshit as u have already mentioned this dragcar has nothing at all in common with an Aurion apart from the name.

    Sounds like it wont be competing against anything either.

  • DOHCV8

    After all is said and done I’d rather cut my own head off with a bread knife than own a Toy-clone-a.

    Oh what a zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..

  • DOHCV8

    Imagine spending all of your time researching mind numbingly boring Toy-clone-a motorsport facts and figures just to post on blogs…

    I mean really, just try for a second to imagine that..

    What sort of psycho does that??

    Imagine how humiliated his parents must feel..

  • DOHCV8

    FACT 1: Toy-clone-a have built a RWD drag car Aurion.

    FACT 2: Aurion and it’s TuRD versions are FWD.

    FACT 3: Toy-clone-a chose RWD for the drag car.

    FACT 4: Toy-clone-a DUMPED FWD for the drag car.

    FACT 5: The boffins at TRD just proved to the world that FWD in the Aurion is completely useless and an absolute load of rubbish.

    CONCLUSION:

    For God’s sake don’t buy one, if the TRD guy’s don’t want FWD why would you?

  • http://realcars realcars

    Gee DOHCV8 u are on the money with the RWD/FWD argument.

    That bread knife is going to give me nightmares.

  • toyota rules

    dohcv8 are you for real you wanker!how do you get off on rubbishing the poor guy he was only putting information forward it sound’s like do us all a favour and do your bread knife trick that would be one less wanker to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • yourallfools

    Well, you are all fools!!!!!

    Lets get some things staight on both sides of the fence.

    1) The toyota TRD Aurion is the biggest wank of a pr exercise i have ever seen. Wake up fools, this car was most likely a Toyota celica drag car purchased as a rolling chassis or turn key package from a team in NHRA sport compact. Whilst not taking away from Tony Wedlocks ability as a drag racer and engineer the development work for these engines was done along time ago by a company in the states called Titan Motorsport who have been running 6.4 sec passes for quite some time now.

    2) A team called GAS motorsport in conjunction with Titan motorsport have been running a toyota camry and toyota celica in the 6 second zone for well over 18 moths in Australia now no factory support or TRD pr crap.

    3) To all the seemingly v8 super car fans bagging drag racing i say the following, v8′s have very few links to there road going brothers. No drag car in this world really closely represents its factory body thanks to the need of aero dynamics. After all the g force applied to these cars in such a short space of time requires aero dynamics to take precedent over looks.

    4) If you think a drag car goes striaght and is such an easy thing to do, go down to a drag strip and watch from behind the startline, i’m sure you’ll find they dont rreally go too straight. If you still thinks its easy to “drive a straight line” get behind the wheel of say a 9 second car and do it yourself. My only advice would be get your life insurance in order and save your self some embarrasment and wear a napey