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	<title>Comments on: Toyota exceeds 100,000 sales in five months</title>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How may where RWD?A big Fat ZERO.100,000 driving school cars sold Wow,Woppie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How may where RWD?A big Fat ZERO.100,000 driving school cars sold Wow,Woppie.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lov&#039;n It: It’s actually part of the Holden Engine Company Facility in Melbourne - where they build a range of V6 and 4 cylinder engines for various makes that they are going to close [temporarily] not the Vehicle Assembly Line in Elizabeth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lov&#8217;n It: It’s actually part of the Holden Engine Company Facility in Melbourne &#8211; where they build a range of V6 and 4 cylinder engines for various makes that they are going to close [temporarily] not the Vehicle Assembly Line in Elizabeth</p>
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		<title>By: Oh What A Feeling ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh What A Feeling ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bavarian ...

He, He, He ... Hoo, Hoo, Hoo ... Ha, Ha, Ha ...

Look who&#039;s not so smart now !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bavarian &#8230;</p>
<p>He, He, He &#8230; Hoo, Hoo, Hoo &#8230; Ha, Ha, Ha &#8230;</p>
<p>Look who&#8217;s not so smart now !!</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13300/toyota-exceeds-100000-sales-in-five-months/comment-page-1/#comment-77239</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingo/Lov&#039;n It............you remind me of the chick that sings with meat loaf on &quot;Paradise by the dash board lights &quot;.......you just wont shut up ........what does meatloaf sing in the in the end.....hes praying for the end of time ! Sounds good to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo/Lov&#8217;n It&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;you remind me of the chick that sings with meat loaf on &#8220;Paradise by the dash board lights &#8220;&#8230;&#8230;.you just wont shut up &#8230;&#8230;..what does meatloaf sing in the in the end&#8230;..hes praying for the end of time ! Sounds good to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Lov'n It</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13300/toyota-exceeds-100000-sales-in-five-months/comment-page-1/#comment-77212</link>
		<dc:creator>Lov'n It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobby - they have nobody to blame but Holden / GM ... PERIOD !! 

For all those who like to laugh at Toyota - guess what ... the laugh is on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobby &#8211; they have nobody to blame but Holden / GM &#8230; PERIOD !! </p>
<p>For all those who like to laugh at Toyota &#8211; guess what &#8230; the laugh is on them.</p>
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		<title>By: joober</title>
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		<dc:creator>joober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Toyota as a corporation on their 100,000, shows they processes and strategies pay off.

all the recent comments for some strange reason reminds me of the Greg Norman switch (jump ship) from Statesman to Toyota Avalon. That was a real kick in the teeth on Holdens part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Toyota as a corporation on their 100,000, shows they processes and strategies pay off.</p>
<p>all the recent comments for some strange reason reminds me of the Greg Norman switch (jump ship) from Statesman to Toyota Avalon. That was a real kick in the teeth on Holdens part.</p>
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		<title>By: jansjetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>jansjetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota has probably been watching what Woolies &amp; Coles have been doing with liquor, groceries &amp; fuel. Buy up, sell at cost, watch the others go broke, become a duopoly, then charge what you like.
Thank all governments over the last 40 years or so for supporting the manufacturing industries for all of that.
I wonder if Holden would still be around today if it weren&#039;t for it&#039;s export program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota has probably been watching what Woolies &amp; Coles have been doing with liquor, groceries &amp; fuel. Buy up, sell at cost, watch the others go broke, become a duopoly, then charge what you like.<br />
Thank all governments over the last 40 years or so for supporting the manufacturing industries for all of that.<br />
I wonder if Holden would still be around today if it weren&#8217;t for it&#8217;s export program.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those people have mortgages and kids mate, class act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people have mortgages and kids mate, class act.</p>
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		<title>By: Lov'n It</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lov'n It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the news just keeps getting better ... 

for all those clowns that have been swarking about Holden is gonna expand in Australia to possibly make way for the Torana, then explain why DRIVE.com has just released an article under &#039;news&#039; that Holden is effectively closing part of it&#039;s operation at Elizabeth that will coincidentally retrench another 500 workers ... gee wiz !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the news just keeps getting better &#8230; </p>
<p>for all those clowns that have been swarking about Holden is gonna expand in Australia to possibly make way for the Torana, then explain why DRIVE.com has just released an article under &#8216;news&#8217; that Holden is effectively closing part of it&#8217;s operation at Elizabeth that will coincidentally retrench another 500 workers &#8230; gee wiz !!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin John T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin John T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never witnessed Holden get smashed so hard by Toyota. It has become a bloody bath at Toyota&#039;s delight. Good on &#039;em, about time Holden got what they deserved in this country after years of crap cars and horrible service. Holden would do good in the bottom end of the Korean market with all due respects to Hyundai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never witnessed Holden get smashed so hard by Toyota. It has become a bloody bath at Toyota&#8217;s delight. Good on &#8216;em, about time Holden got what they deserved in this country after years of crap cars and horrible service. Holden would do good in the bottom end of the Korean market with all due respects to Hyundai.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John. fiesta sales are up 24% ytd, Mondeo is almost moving 600 units monthly, focus is pretty consistent but down, Terra is doing okay for its age, I think Ford have a pretty good range there is some quality to it, give it time, Im sure Fords own planning allowed a couple of years for the mondeo and such. A refurbish on the Terra is going to help that and I hope the Falcon does well, its clearly better than aurion and VE. Seems to me Ford adopted a mid to long term view 2 years ago, go with quality, build a small car here, and chase rwd dev and possible export of same, Ford is holding its ground and working on building a solid range, its their only chance if they want to survive in this country, frankly, I dont know WTF holden are doing, the export thing is great, but there is no substance or depth to their model range, VE, Viva, astra, caprice and statesman are all double digit losers ytd, last 2 months for epica are 159 and 47, captiva is going okay and barina is holding its ground then again you can drive away in it now for 13k..500 jobs gone today at Holden..does not look good long term</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John. fiesta sales are up 24% ytd, Mondeo is almost moving 600 units monthly, focus is pretty consistent but down, Terra is doing okay for its age, I think Ford have a pretty good range there is some quality to it, give it time, Im sure Fords own planning allowed a couple of years for the mondeo and such. A refurbish on the Terra is going to help that and I hope the Falcon does well, its clearly better than aurion and VE. Seems to me Ford adopted a mid to long term view 2 years ago, go with quality, build a small car here, and chase rwd dev and possible export of same, Ford is holding its ground and working on building a solid range, its their only chance if they want to survive in this country, frankly, I dont know WTF holden are doing, the export thing is great, but there is no substance or depth to their model range, VE, Viva, astra, caprice and statesman are all double digit losers ytd, last 2 months for epica are 159 and 47, captiva is going okay and barina is holding its ground then again you can drive away in it now for 13k..500 jobs gone today at Holden..does not look good long term</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Al. The Korean experiment is obviously a disaster but that does not explain fords failings. The focus is a nice little car and the mondeo is very competent. Yet ford could not sell heat too the eskimo&#039;s the way their cars don&#039;t sell at all. What is Ford&#039;s excuse for apalling sales? Holden at least has an excuse of selling rubbish in most segments. Barina, viva, epica, captiva anyone!
Toyota deserves full credit for achieving an absolutely amazing feat of selling 100 000 cars in the first 5 months of a year. Even in ford and holdens hey day when they had 50% of the market between them they did not come close to this. Look nobody has ever sold over 75 000 in that period let alone 100 000. Only toyota keeps breaking their own records. Good work to the Big T. Holden and Ford lift your games as you are both an embarassment when you have a market that are brand loyalists and you still cannot sell many cars too them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Al. The Korean experiment is obviously a disaster but that does not explain fords failings. The focus is a nice little car and the mondeo is very competent. Yet ford could not sell heat too the eskimo&#8217;s the way their cars don&#8217;t sell at all. What is Ford&#8217;s excuse for apalling sales? Holden at least has an excuse of selling rubbish in most segments. Barina, viva, epica, captiva anyone!<br />
Toyota deserves full credit for achieving an absolutely amazing feat of selling 100 000 cars in the first 5 months of a year. Even in ford and holdens hey day when they had 50% of the market between them they did not come close to this. Look nobody has ever sold over 75 000 in that period let alone 100 000. Only toyota keeps breaking their own records. Good work to the Big T. Holden and Ford lift your games as you are both an embarassment when you have a market that are brand loyalists and you still cannot sell many cars too them!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Five years ago GM Holden And Toyota were doing battle at about 18% market share each. Toyota won, just. Today Toyota are on about 23% and GM Holden are on about 13%!!
Note to GM Holden sales executives:- Guys the &quot;Korean Experiment&quot; is a failure, no total disaster. If Holden offered a decent range of cars in Australia people would buy them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five years ago GM Holden And Toyota were doing battle at about 18% market share each. Toyota won, just. Today Toyota are on about 23% and GM Holden are on about 13%!!<br />
Note to GM Holden sales executives:- Guys the &#8220;Korean Experiment&#8221; is a failure, no total disaster. If Holden offered a decent range of cars in Australia people would buy them.</p>
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		<title>By: GM Is Pathetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM Is Pathetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crazyfreak - let me highlight how pathetic your statement is.

In one sentance some clown will state that Toyota&#039;s are overpriced but then in another freaks like you say they are giving them away ... !!

You clowns are clueless what the hell you are saying yet  have a habit of passing pure rot.

Even better - Toyota just recently published thier 16.5 billion dollar profit for thier last FISCAL year making it between 15 - 19 billion dollar profits for the pass 7 consecative years.

Giving cars away - aaaah, yeah ... sure - go back bed you freak !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazyfreak &#8211; let me highlight how pathetic your statement is.</p>
<p>In one sentance some clown will state that Toyota&#8217;s are overpriced but then in another freaks like you say they are giving them away &#8230; !!</p>
<p>You clowns are clueless what the hell you are saying yet  have a habit of passing pure rot.</p>
<p>Even better &#8211; Toyota just recently published thier 16.5 billion dollar profit for thier last FISCAL year making it between 15 &#8211; 19 billion dollar profits for the pass 7 consecative years.</p>
<p>Giving cars away &#8211; aaaah, yeah &#8230; sure &#8211; go back bed you freak !!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why everyone is talking about the Corolla. The article relates to 100,000 Toyotas and if you read the &quot;Related Posts&quot; you will note it&#039;s the HiLux that is selling. These are commercial vehicles not your day to day vehicles.

When I helped my kids buy their first cars I went to the car auctions and noted that a lot of Commodores and Falcons were being sold but not many Corollas. I conclude that the current sale of Toyota vehicles will flood the used car market in a couple of years which will have a major effect on the price of Toyota cars then. You might say, what does that have to do with the 100,000 Toyotas sold? Simply this, these peeks in sale numbers are seasonal and you might find that there will be a dramatic drop over the next couple of years. The example to this is the Commodore which you can buy quite cheaply now. One of the majot effects with car sales will be the new diesels that are coming from Europe both in small cars and soft 4X4 (alla RAV style). These cars from Audi, Renault, Peugeot Skoda, etc are going to have a major impact on the Toyota brand more than any other brand in Australia. Why? because they are already doing it in Europe. My current impression of Toyota is &quot;short term gain long term loss&quot;.
Just a small sideline issue. There are people who say, &quot;so what, the Corolla doesn&#039;t have the stability control on their current vehicles we&#039;ll add it on the next model&quot;. 

When I looked for cars for my kids, the first thing I look for is SAFETY. The car doesn&#039;t have I don&#039;t look at it. Let&#039;s see how quick these companies who have bought Corolla move them when the lease/hire periods are up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why everyone is talking about the Corolla. The article relates to 100,000 Toyotas and if you read the &#8220;Related Posts&#8221; you will note it&#8217;s the HiLux that is selling. These are commercial vehicles not your day to day vehicles.</p>
<p>When I helped my kids buy their first cars I went to the car auctions and noted that a lot of Commodores and Falcons were being sold but not many Corollas. I conclude that the current sale of Toyota vehicles will flood the used car market in a couple of years which will have a major effect on the price of Toyota cars then. You might say, what does that have to do with the 100,000 Toyotas sold? Simply this, these peeks in sale numbers are seasonal and you might find that there will be a dramatic drop over the next couple of years. The example to this is the Commodore which you can buy quite cheaply now. One of the majot effects with car sales will be the new diesels that are coming from Europe both in small cars and soft 4X4 (alla RAV style). These cars from Audi, Renault, Peugeot Skoda, etc are going to have a major impact on the Toyota brand more than any other brand in Australia. Why? because they are already doing it in Europe. My current impression of Toyota is &#8220;short term gain long term loss&#8221;.<br />
Just a small sideline issue. There are people who say, &#8220;so what, the Corolla doesn&#8217;t have the stability control on their current vehicles we&#8217;ll add it on the next model&#8221;. </p>
<p>When I looked for cars for my kids, the first thing I look for is SAFETY. The car doesn&#8217;t have I don&#8217;t look at it. Let&#8217;s see how quick these companies who have bought Corolla move them when the lease/hire periods are up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sheesh, just got my breath back golf, did that make sense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sheesh, just got my breath back golf, did that make sense!</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poison Eagle seems to be feeling the same way as I do.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poison Eagle seems to be feeling the same way as I do&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: PoisonEagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoisonEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WGAF</description>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha, you took less breath than I did! :)

It&#039;s late. I think I get your drift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha, you took less breath than I did! :)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s late. I think I get your drift.</p>
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		<title>By: nobby</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13300/toyota-exceeds-100000-sales-in-five-months/comment-page-1/#comment-77098</link>
		<dc:creator>nobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.caradvice.com.au/13300/toyota-exceeds-100000-sales-in-five-months/#comment-77098</guid>
		<description>You lost me after thanks golf :)

I see the reasoning, but if its a discounted sale its fleet. TBH golf, who cares fleet or not, you can drive away in a Lumina at the moment for 33k, you know, the one with 7k in extra&#039;s, the Aurion has 4k of the top, and the Falcon has just been running out as well. There big cars, some of the are nice toys, most of em are hacks in one way or another and they are dropping sales volume in double digits, now if you are discounting them 24/7 to sell em its usually indicative that under normal sale conditions people are not really interested. That is to say give standard pricing not many want them. Yer there all fleet, see the latest trends for fleet sales of diesel suv&#039;s AND passenger cars?? Where s our falcdore diesel, where is our aurion diesel?? These guys dont know how bad things are gonna get yet, wait till petrol is 2.50 a litre, you enjoy your v8 ssv 24/7 then, get my drift?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lost me after thanks golf :)</p>
<p>I see the reasoning, but if its a discounted sale its fleet. TBH golf, who cares fleet or not, you can drive away in a Lumina at the moment for 33k, you know, the one with 7k in extra&#8217;s, the Aurion has 4k of the top, and the Falcon has just been running out as well. There big cars, some of the are nice toys, most of em are hacks in one way or another and they are dropping sales volume in double digits, now if you are discounting them 24/7 to sell em its usually indicative that under normal sale conditions people are not really interested. That is to say give standard pricing not many want them. Yer there all fleet, see the latest trends for fleet sales of diesel suv&#8217;s AND passenger cars?? Where s our falcdore diesel, where is our aurion diesel?? These guys dont know how bad things are gonna get yet, wait till petrol is 2.50 a litre, you enjoy your v8 ssv 24/7 then, get my drift?</p>
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