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Melbourne councillors to vote on 30km/h speed limit

By Tim Beissmann |

Councillors from the City of Yarra in Melbourne will vote tonight on whether to reduce the speed limit of some high-traffic, pedestrian-dense streets to 30km/h in an attempt to improve road safety.

Yarra councillor Jackie Fristacky said areas around schools and shopping centres would be the first targets of the tighter speed restrictions if the proposal were approved.

Melbourne Lord Mayor Robert Doyle is also seeking public opinion about reducing speed limits in Melbourne’s CBD from 40km/h to 30km/h, with a vote expected next month.

“The bottom line is keeping people safe,” Mr Doyle told 3AW this morning. “I don’t want people getting hit by cars and suffering pretty terrible injuries, which is what is happening at the moment in the city.”

“It’s not going to slow you down much if you think about how slow the city is, but it might save a lot of accidents and injuries.”

Mr Doyle said every day there was 800,000 people, 300,000 cars, tens of thousands of bicycles and thousands of trams moving through the CBD.

“It’s a pretty dangerous mix. We are the highest-collision, highest-injury area in the state,” he said.

“It’s avoidable if people slow down a little, because it doesn’t slow down your travel time, but it means that when you brake it is that much more effective.”

Mr Doyle admitted the erratic attitude of a number of pedestrians in the city and their disregard for traffic lights was one reason behind the push to reduce vehicle speed limits.

He said no decisions had been made yet, and said speed limits would potentially be looked on a street-to-street basis.

“We’re not saying we’re going to do it, we’re just saying … ‘is this something that you would want us to look at to try to keep people safe?’” Mr Doyle said.

“I think you’d need to be sensible and say ‘Okay, what are the benefits of doing it as a blanket rule so everybody knows what the speed limit is? What are the benefits of doing it the differential way?’ And I think you can look at all of those possibilities.”

Dr Bruce Corben, senior research fellow from the Monash University Accident Research Centre, told News Ltd reducing your speed from 50km/h to 30km/h reduced the risk of death by as much as 90 per cent.

“Reducing travelling speeds is the most effective and cost-effective measure we can take,” Dr Corben said.

Even if the 30km/h proposals are passed by local government, any changes to speed limits must also be approved by VicRoads.

Do you think Melbourne, as well as other major cities and pedestrian-dense areas, would benefit from 30km/h speed limits? Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below.


 
  • Jim Sim

    Good ol nanny state that is Victoria… Whats next? Lowering the Hwy speed limit to 40kms just incase if a bird flies past?

  • Nissan S15

    At 30km/h they would be giving out speeding tickets to drivers of the famously gay Toyoya Prius

    • http://Nissan Kazuo

      next they will put on speed limit on push bikes

      • bobin

        pretty sure you can get booked on a bike for speeding, after all the rules apply for the road and if the bikes on it…..

        • http://Nissan Kazuo

          paying rego for push bikes is a good idea to rise revenue so governors can get more holiday pays

    • Jack

      I’d like to think most gays, like me, would have more sense and style than to buy a Prius.

    • LL

      In the future please refrain from making homophobic statements.

  • http://electric-vehicles-cars-bikes.blogspot.com/ Paul

    Of course, control freak Councillors can ONLY reduce speed limits to fix a problem (it’s the cheapest solution, just replace a few road signs).

    From my experience (I used to drive through Sydney city every lunch time) pedestrians in city areas have total disregard for road safety, most Primary School kids show more sense (respect) crossing the road.

    Many arrogant pedestrians actually Dare you to hit them, like God will intervene between a 1.6 ton vehicle Vs a 100kg human and momentarily suspend the laws of physics.

    Driving through a city at lunch time is like a rally stage in Portugal pre 1986.. a wall of people daring you to hit them.

    Either contain the pedestrians to the footpaths or pedestrainize the entire area and just ban cars. Isn’t that why Westfields are so successful?

    Lets have an interview with this Dr Bruce Corben bloke from Monash University Accident Crash Centre who claims he can predict random events (09% reduction), he’s the source of the problem here.

    • Matt Man

      Driving through Flinders lane and Swanson st intersection, the pedestrians look at you driving through and still walk out right in front of you! Its crazy!
      Maybe put more cops on the beat to catch jaywalkers!

    • IfItAintARotorItAintAMotor

      It all makes perfect sense though doesn’t it? The pedestrians keep jaywalking, or not looking, so lets slow down the cars around them to stop them from being hurt instead of penalising the pedestrians… Politicians hey? Can’t live with them, can’t get rid of them

  • F1MotoGP

    Now I will be fined if I push my car because I could break the speed limit. What is wrong with 50km/h!?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1435885244 Yani Hendriawan

    at some caravan parks in my town the speed limit in there is 8. takes half a day just to get out of there

    • Tom

      Very simple solution to that – stay away from caravan parks.

  • AndrewF

    I believe each automobile should be proceeded by a walker carrying a warning flag! This will have two-fold benefit: increase road safety, and create plenty of employment opportunities for low skill workers – something we sorely need.
    I urge Melbourne council not to settle for half-measures such as 30km/hr speed limits!

  • Homer

    How about fining the pedestrians who break the rules. Rather than continue to rape the motorist, they can now make a motza on jay walking etc. Why is it the motorists problem that certain pedestrians are idiots?

  • Fiz

    I reckon that if people are silly/arrogant enough to leap out in front of moving vehicles then perhaps we really should be questioning if they are of any use to society at all.

    I mean if a person is this reckless and silly then how are they ever going to vote or produce any other kind of value like Doctoring or Lawyering?

    :-O

    • bobin

      lawyering – adding value to society….. you cant be serious

  • G

    What’s next? Maybe someone will come up with the brilliant idea that we are only allowed to drive during pre-determined hours, to avoid coming close to people.

  • http://Facebook Jerome Jackson

    The bottom line is you’re an idiot, Mr Doyle.

  • Oswald

    Ha, using Monash Uni as a credible source for road safety data??

  • GTI

    So Doyle admits that many peds have an errant attitude. How about put the responsibility for peoples safety back in their own hands and not punish motorists?

    Doyle made another clanger too. Last I heard, moving at a slower speed means that you WILL take longer to reach your destination.

    I can’t wait to experience how much worse this will make already bad traffic flow in these areas. Why don’t they just come out and say they want to ban cars?

  • Mariusz

    “It’s not going to slow you down much if you think about how slow the city is” – If its not going to slow you down much then there’s no real point then is it.

    Maybe they are just planning to put some speed cameras up and want to find some good revenue places.

  • evil cars

    cars are evil…. apparently. Got nothing to do with stupid people jumping in front of cars. Between the slower speed limits, trams and idiotic people its going to become so much worse driving in the city. most of us dont drive to the city for fun, its mostly coz there is a need to go through there!

    What happens when this 30kmph does not work .. will the cars be slowed down to 20kmph? then maybe 10kmph?

    I am all for pedestrian safety, but pedestrians have to take some responsibility too. it cant just work if all the blame is put on the cars.

    i also believe that majority of the people leap in front of the cars to get to tram stops located in the middle of the roads to hop on and off a tram etc. Move the trams to the side of the road instead of the middle and it will solve a lot of problems.

  • laurie

    Is the speed limit of 30 Km/h also applying to trams?

  • http://www.facebook.com/priusfreezone Matthew Werner

    “erratic attitude of a number of pedestrians in the city and their disregard for traffic lights”… there’s the problem right there. Once a few of them get pinged for jaywalking they will change their attitude and do as they are supposed to.

  • Vibe

    Maybe the problem is idiot pedestrians jaywalking.

  • Μr Gaspo

    We must drop variable speed zones… This will just make it worse. What next, have someone walk in front of your car waving a red flag!

    What’s wrong on standardizing on set limits such as 50, 70, 100, 120? You spend more time looking for signs rather than concentrating on the road.

    Honestly, I’m fed up with this nanny state.

  • Ford Fairlane

    Is today the first of April?

    This would be a funny joke,if it wasn’t such a stupid idea.

  • Technofreak

    Why dont they just ban cars from the CBD then?

    • Vibe

      Don’t tempt them.

  • Westie

    I bet the halfwits voting on this either
    1. Don’t ever drive in Melbourne, or
    2. Don’t drive at all, or
    3. Get paid traveling time!
    Seriously, tho, agree with all those above – pedestrians usually only get run into when they wander onto the roads. And the deliberate hit and run cases aren’t likely to be changed by lowering the speed limit!!!
    Road Rage – “I’m going to kill you, %#~€! On, no, I can’t. It’s a 30 limit”

  • Good News Guy

    Here we go again……over-reaction and addressing the symptom and not the cause. The cause of most accidents are bad roads and poor driver training and where pedestrians are involved its usually the one brain cell versions. Why not just ban the car altogether and go back to horses and walking. We could take advice from the Amish of America.
    What a bunch of dopes…………

  • Arky

    “Dr Bruce Corben, senior research fellow from the Monash University Accident Research Centre, told News Ltd reducing your speed from 50km/h to 30km/h reduced the risk of death by as much as 90 per cent.”

    Yeah, obviously if you slow cars down that much hardly anyone can be killed, but it defeats the purpose of having cars. If we all walked everywhere, there would be no car deaths at all! Brilliant! Let’s try that!

    When one of these boffins ever comes up with any idea for improving road safety besides fiddling with speed limits, I’ll care.

    • Oswald

      But you are probably 12 times more likely to have an accident at those speeds as you are not concentrating as much – hence the fatility rate would increase.

  • Cliffo

    Getting booked for 33kmh in a 30kmh zone… Sad State!

    • Trouble

      At least 33km/h is back within the 10% tolerance allowable for speedometer accuracy :-p

      • ST

        I’ll pay that comment!

  • Glen

    How many fatal and serious crashes have they had in the CBD in the last year, and who was at fault, the driver or the pedestrian?

  • Brett

    Come to the Northern Territory! There’s plenty of people/wildlife that stroll/stumble out infront of you. And this is in built up areas by the way. Our motto is playing chicken really. Maybe you guys should play the same game?

  • save it for the track

    The opening line of the story summed up quite a few pedestrians. …….pedestrian-dense….
    .
    Why don’t Vicpol run random operations targeting pedestrians?

  • HJP

    Why don’t they just ban cars for peace of mind safety? I am just getting tired of this nanny state and getting more revenues from the offenders. Why don’t they just targeting the crazy jaywalkers?

  • http://www.facebook.com/crownleyian Nelson Nascimento

    Silly Nanny Victoria…

    What about enforcing “KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING”?

    Ohh that’s right if you overtake you are speeding.

    Australia the nanny drivers country!

  • http://electric-vehicles-cars-bikes.blogspot.com/ Paul

    I’ve got a better idea Councilors! INCREASE the speed limit to 80 km/h so that jaywalking would mean certain death and pedestrians will reassess their idea of risk creep.

  • Frenchie

    Why did we ever bother inventing the motor car?

  • Al Juraj

    In the States, these councilmen are practically committing suicide by voting yes.

    I’m just sick of this safety bull$h!t. It’s all about the money money money. We really need your money money money. This is utter abuse to the niceness of the typical Australian.

    30 kph isn’t even written on the speedometers of just about every car. I don’t see how 40 can possibly kill someone. You’re just a total dimwit not to be able to avoid danger at this speed.

  • Shak

    Why are drivers having to take all the flack for stupid pedestrians. if they dont want to follow the road rules, why should we have to change our driving patterns to accommodate their lack of common sense. Simple, if you dont want to be hit by a car, only cross the road when you should, and where you should.

  • Matt

    I am truly sad to be a Victorian!

    This state is fast becoming a joke with its ever changing speed limits and knee jerk policy making!

    Let’s get real people, focus on the route of the problem, congestion, poor infrastructure, lack of respect between all road users (cars, bikes, trams) and virtually no forward thinking from councils when it comes to CBD and inner city suburbs. Couple this with a ludicrous number of signs and visual clutter near and on our roads (signs, billboards etc.) and it’s a wonder more people haven’t been skittled.

    If i here one more “concerned citizen” blame speed or cars for purely reckless pedestrian behavior i will go and jump. All these current 40km/h zones through shopping centers and schools have done is encourage pedestrians to chance it and run across the road in front of traffic when ever is most convenient for them, rather than use the designated crossing. I live in Kew(an inner city suburb)and i see it day in and day out.
    Bottom line pay attention and respect the road and its rules or suffer the consequences. This goes for all involved. Stop making the car the enemy!!

  • ST

    “He said no decisions had been made yet, and said speed limits would potentially be looked on a street-to-street basis.”

    Now there’s a recipe for revenue (especially tourist). Can you imagine one street it’s 30, then turn, 40, then turn again, 30 and you’ve just missed that last 30 sign. SNAP! You’re an instant road using murderer!!!!

  • Mad

    So going by this they are protecting jay-walkers and slowing down the users who travel on the very roads that their cars are built to use.
    I agree with Paul, make it 80 kph and any knob walking into the traffic listening to his i pod can get his Darwinian punishment (and should be liable to repair the poor car ).

  • Richard

    Surely if the people in the area involved makes plenty of noise this absurd idea would be scrapped?

  • Darwin’s law

    Instead of having this as a law,we should be looking at applying Darwin’s Law to the pedestrians! Why can’t they stay on  footpaths, and cross the roads at crossing points with the little green man.