if the falcon and commy were to have the diesel option (or should i say when they do) i cant see the costs being that worth while.
a diesel falcon and commy wont run at the diesel consumption rates that cars such as the sonata you are pinning it against.

the next extreme would be to say the i30 runs at 4Lodd/100k, and assume a diesel falcon and commy would too.

the aussie made cars are bigger and better to drive. surely a L or 2 can be excused when you consider that

Cheers !

Look at LG in the electronics sector have the lions share and have vanquished former greats such as Panasonic and Sony.

Australian makes should study the Koreans rather than Kaizen!

Still got to use something to produce the electricity to produce the hydrogen though.

Would also have to persuade oil companies to distribute the stuff for obvious reasons.

I think there is a fuel cell under development that stores the Hydrogen in a chemically bound way with the fuel cell lattice or honeycomb. Lattice is made of a semi precious metal and hydrogen is liberated by applying an electric current.

Cost due to the material used is currently prohibitively expensive I believe.

TP have you ever owned a turbo diesel? No future?
Oil has no future, but until we have a viable alternative, Fact: diesels do more with less, meaning oil reserves will go further. A whole lot more sustainable than petrol. Period.

These forums seem to offer therapy to people that no one would listen to in real life!

And it’s true that the initial outlay on a diesel will be easily recouped on resale and as for resale, do some research on the Santa Fe diesel resale. Last time I checked, it was leading its segement. No reason why the Sonata can’t do the same.

Not that its difficult to mass produce a car running on the stuff. Thats the easy part.

Try working out how to produce the stuff cheaply enough. You reckon diesel is expensive?

Then try to work out how to distibute it. It can’t be liquified easily like LPG. Storing it is a pain, energy density is pitifully low with all reasonable storage options. What – we build new pipelines everywhere?

Oh and you fancy driving a car with a tank of Hydrogen on board? Bet you’ve heard of the Hindenburg? and the H-Bomb!

If Ford are sinking big $ into Hydrogen cars I’m afraid they are sealing their fate. Hybrid diesels will be doing 3 lt/100km within 5 years – and they won’t be short of poke either. From there technology will jump straight to plug in electric/battery powered cars.

that elongated grille and droopy headlights (compared to the old model) make it look like its had a stroke.

Take a camry to be the equivalent of

9litres at $1.55 = $13.50something,something. sorry its late so i guestimated it.

add to that the fact that it drives good. and you’ve got a winner.

will anyone buy it? doubtfull.

NM response,
Agree TP but any regular on caradvice would clearly know you used to bag hydrogen on what Ford where doing with R&D and now you sorta convulted endorse it!

Diesels are good short term only as buys more time til next level (in comparison to fossil fuels such as petrol)

The majority of your 200killer wasps are produced at redline. That is where the difference lies.

Given the price difference between Diesel and petrol and the superior diesel economy I think u would still be a long way in front with the diesel. Diesels often approach or exceed these factory figures whereas petrol engines the other way.

Have a drive of a modern diesel as u may well be surprised!

If you’re shopping with the calculator, traditional choices with a petrol engine are what’s going to suit you best.