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	<title>Comments on: 2009 Hyundai Sonata CRDi First Steer</title>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13217/2009-hyundai-sonata-crdi-first-steer/#comment-99065</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frugal one where do you sell cars??? $24990 for a crdi family car?? Ill take 10! TP 305 nm not enough from a 2.0l??  Hyundai will be in the top 3 within 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frugal one where do you sell cars??? $24990 for a crdi family car?? Ill take 10! TP 305 nm not enough from a 2.0l??  Hyundai will be in the top 3 within 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13217/2009-hyundai-sonata-crdi-first-steer/#comment-84170</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen,
i make the falcon to be cheaper than the commodore to fuel....but anyway......

if the falcon and commy were to have the diesel option (or should i say when they do) i cant see the costs being that worth while.
a diesel falcon and commy wont run at the diesel consumption rates that cars such as the sonata you are pinning it against.

the next extreme would be to say the i30 runs at 4Lodd/100k, and assume a diesel falcon and commy would too.

the aussie made cars are bigger and better to drive. surely a L or 2 can be excused when you consider that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen,<br />
i make the falcon to be cheaper than the commodore to fuel&#8230;.but anyway&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>if the falcon and commy were to have the diesel option (or should i say when they do) i cant see the costs being that worth while.<br />
a diesel falcon and commy wont run at the diesel consumption rates that cars such as the sonata you are pinning it against.</p>
<p>the next extreme would be to say the i30 runs at 4Lodd/100k, and assume a diesel falcon and commy would too.</p>
<p>the aussie made cars are bigger and better to drive. surely a L or 2 can be excused when you consider that</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity Falcon and Commodore don&#039;t sell diesels.
The Sonata manual costs $2160 for diesel at $1.80/L to drive 20,000km. The Commodore manual costs $3520 for petrol at $1.60/L (20c less than diesel) and the Falcon manual $3532  for the same distance. The 5 year warranty on the Sonata is better too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity Falcon and Commodore don&#8217;t sell diesels.<br />
The Sonata manual costs $2160 for diesel at $1.80/L to drive 20,000km. The Commodore manual costs $3520 for petrol at $1.60/L (20c less than diesel) and the Falcon manual $3532  for the same distance. The 5 year warranty on the Sonata is better too.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13217/2009-hyundai-sonata-crdi-first-steer/#comment-79408</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^But if you think about it Holden has the four speed auto still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^But if you think about it Holden has the four speed auto still.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13217/2009-hyundai-sonata-crdi-first-steer/#comment-79403</link>
		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Hyundai and wont drive anything else BUT a Four Speed Auto Come on Hyundai where is the 5/6 speed auto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Hyundai and wont drive anything else BUT a Four Speed Auto Come on Hyundai where is the 5/6 speed auto.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbulb</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/13217/2009-hyundai-sonata-crdi-first-steer/#comment-77357</link>
		<dc:creator>Lightbulb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seen one of these being unloaded at my local dealer today &amp; will check it out in detail soon. Have to agree with Marketmaker with the comment of plug in battery/powered cars, because with the price of fuel only getting dearer, electric powered cars may be the answer.

Cheers !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seen one of these being unloaded at my local dealer today &amp; will check it out in detail soon. Have to agree with Marketmaker with the comment of plug in battery/powered cars, because with the price of fuel only getting dearer, electric powered cars may be the answer.</p>
<p>Cheers !</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read the market right, the rewards are all yours. If you read it wrong...well, just ask Mitsubishi, Holden and Ford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read the market right, the rewards are all yours. If you read it wrong&#8230;well, just ask Mitsubishi, Holden and Ford.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would just like to congratulate Hyundai for doing what others haven&#039;t bothered to do at a great price. Who would have thought the Koreans would have been the automotive innovators?

Look at LG in the electronics sector have the lions share and have vanquished former greats such as Panasonic and Sony.

Australian makes should study the Koreans rather than Kaizen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would just like to congratulate Hyundai for doing what others haven&#8217;t bothered to do at a great price. Who would have thought the Koreans would have been the automotive innovators?</p>
<p>Look at LG in the electronics sector have the lions share and have vanquished former greats such as Panasonic and Sony.</p>
<p>Australian makes should study the Koreans rather than Kaizen!</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points on Hydrogen Marketmaker!

Still got to use something to produce the electricity to produce the hydrogen though.

Would also have to persuade oil companies to distribute the stuff for obvious reasons.

I think there is a fuel cell under development that stores the Hydrogen in a chemically bound way with the fuel cell lattice or honeycomb. Lattice is made of a semi precious metal and hydrogen is liberated by applying an electric current.

Cost due to the material used is currently prohibitively expensive I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points on Hydrogen Marketmaker!</p>
<p>Still got to use something to produce the electricity to produce the hydrogen though.</p>
<p>Would also have to persuade oil companies to distribute the stuff for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>I think there is a fuel cell under development that stores the Hydrogen in a chemically bound way with the fuel cell lattice or honeycomb. Lattice is made of a semi precious metal and hydrogen is liberated by applying an electric current.</p>
<p>Cost due to the material used is currently prohibitively expensive I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frugal One are you bi-polar?

TP have you ever owned a turbo diesel? No future?
Oil has no future, but until we have a viable alternative, Fact: diesels do more with less, meaning oil reserves will go further. A whole lot more sustainable than petrol. Period.

These forums seem to offer therapy to people that no one would listen to in real life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frugal One are you bi-polar?</p>
<p>TP have you ever owned a turbo diesel? No future?<br />
Oil has no future, but until we have a viable alternative, Fact: diesels do more with less, meaning oil reserves will go further. A whole lot more sustainable than petrol. Period.</p>
<p>These forums seem to offer therapy to people that no one would listen to in real life!</p>
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