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Not tough enough: The hulking Mercedes-Benz G-Class has not survived the Australian Outback, with six vehicles experiencing shock absorber damage and breaking down during a demonstration drive along Western Australia’s notorious 2000km Canning Stock Route.

Day seven of the planned 14-day off-road journey from Wiluna to Halls Creek proved the breaking point for the six of the seven vehicles – five of which were $161,680 Mercedes-Benz G 350 wagons, the other a military-grade utility.

Mercedes-Benz Australia’s David McCarthy described the situation from Well 36, which is just past the halfway point of the drive.

“The Canning Stock Route is in very bad condition in certain areas and has caused suspension damage to most vehicles disembarking north of Well 33 over the past 48 hours,” Mr McCarthy said.

“We have reduced the pace we are travelling at to ensure the vehicles remain driveable, which all seven of them currently are. We have organised for additional shock absorbers to replace those that are damaged or that need attention, they will be flown in to Well 33 where two of our six person logistics team will pick them up from the plane and then drive them to Well 36 where we are camped.”

The only vehicle to survive the trip so far is a G-Professional – a military-style vehicle with a revised suspension setup. Mercedes-Benz Australia is currently investigating introducing this model to its local line-up.

Mr McCarthy said the Mercedes-Benz team on the Route had “zero concerns” about the vehicles’ ability to complete the trek.

“The technicians have already changed a number of shock absorbers prior to breakfast this morning, the additional shocks will arrive this afternoon and we will fit those and continue our trek tomorrow morning,” he said.

“Contrary to some reports none of our vehicles are undriveable and we are a very long way from being stranded.”

Mercedes-Benz Australia managing director, Horst von Sanden, echoed the confidence that all seven vehicles would finish the journey by August 9.

“When we undertook this journey we were well aware of the punishment that the vehicles would endure,” Mr von Sanden said.

“I have complete faith in the team out on the Canning and the thorough logistics and preparation the team have put in place.”

It’s fair to say Mr von Sanden was a little more confident in the G-Class’ abilities late last month in the lead-up to the trek, when he said:

“The G-Class is more than up to the challenge of taking on this terrain and environment without punishing the drivers and passengers. I can’t think of anywhere else that would challenge the G-Class quite as comprehensively as the Canning Stock Route.

“The Canning Stock Route gives us an opportunity to further cement, showcase and demonstrate the G-Class’ off-road credentials in some of the most rugged and remote regions of the world.”

New G-Class vehicles arriving in Australia later this year will be equipped with softer suspension to give them a better chance against the country’s harshest conditions.

The Canning Stock Route is widely regarded as one of the toughest off-road journeys in the world. It retraces the steps of early Western Australian explorers from the late-19th and early-20th centuries.


  • Qyes

    The FJ cruiser pwns this..

    European cars are unreliable and don’t bother buying a used euro car, as they have more problems then life it self..

    • James

      Of course the shockers will fail, what did they expect. They should have brought spares like everyone else does.
      The problem here isn’t the car but the planning by city folk who haven’t got a clue.

      • sauron of mordor

        youve obviously never owned a hilux. it is NOT ok to expect shocks to fail, especially on brand spanking new cars with barely any kms on the odometer

        • Ray of Bris

          Have you even been on a CSR run? Every single vehicle I’ve come across was modified to cope with the conditions which are pretty damned rough, and that includes hiluxes, landcruisers and so on.

          • Marek

            100 % right. And 2 weeks for CSR thet is a joke anyway… What is the point?

    • Skralmdr

      professional G as the title says is for dirty,military and tough work. where as G55 G500 all the late 463 series are refined mostly for on road with all the potential of off roading . when you want to do such a tough route it is common sense to pick up the right vehicle OR you prepeare your vehicle with the right parts for the job.

  • Krish

    If this is any indication of the vehicles the Australian Defense Force purchased from Mercedes Benz – this is not a good start.

    • Bob

      Although doing something as simple as reading the article, you’d realise the undamaged one is a Military-spec version…. funny that.

      Engage Brain before typing next time.

      Doubt a Land Rover Defender would surivive similar punishment any better either in civilian spec.

      • Jacob

        How much does the Military version cost?

        • DGS

          probably a lot less than the luxury models.

      • Matt

        “…five of which were $161,680 Mercedes-Benz G 350 wagons, the other a military-grade utility.”, one was a military spec version… funny that

        I’m not sure about others, but I’d prefer a Pajero any day, half the price and double the off road ability

        • Tomas79

          Double the offroad ability?
          Obviously you have no idea…
          The Pajero and it’s car like design, doesn’t even stack up to others in it’c class such as the prado. Let alone a G-Class.

      • Krish

        Brain is engaged my friend, there were 7 vehicles 5 standard vehicle and 2 militarty spec. One made it, and the other failed. In my eyes, thats not good enough, both should have pulled through, I think our defence force deserve the best :)

    • Spanner

      These are different vehicles to what the Defence Force are getting. They are the civilian version of the G-Wagon and are not as heavy duty as the military version.

  • Justin

    Just get a land cruiser

    • Marek

      lol…

    • Eric

      WHY

  • rose

    The FJ Cruiser is a yuppy wagon. Start with a car without 10 dvd players in it to start with

  • John

    The Canning Stock Route actually broke two Toyota Land Cruisers when we attempted it last month. Both suspension problems. Of the three vehicles we took, the only one to handle it with no problems was the current Ford Ranger Wildtrek. After completing this epic journey I can verify that it is the toughest, most punishing stretch of road I have ever been on. The other 5 guys involved agreed.

    • Grr

      at least the Cruisers didnt cost 160K!!

      • Andrew M

        And at least the ranger didnt cost 100K

    • Tomas79

      I call BS on this…
      When I worked in Africa, we had BT50 and Ford Rangers come in when they couldn’t source Toyota’s quickly enough.
      Those cars were extremely unsuitable for the rough terrain,and tough conditions and had constantly things wrong with them. After 2 months the company had enough and got rid of them, for much superior Toyota landcruisers…

  • Meanstreak

    It’ll break almost any vehicle short of a bushmaster.

    • Grr

      bushmaster???

      • hayzel

        It’s an all terrain infantry fighting vehicle made by the US army

        • Lynchy

          It’s actually an all terrain Personnel Mobility Vehicle and it’s all Australian hayzel. One of the best local products the military has designed.

          • FrugalOne

            The Bushmaster is a disaster, it is set for replacement it failed badly in testing against the French and German made options AND IT COST 3 TIMES MORE than the Euros

            The army hates them too, very unstable

            BUT politics are forcing them to buy the inferior aussie

            Its ok, its YOUR taxes paying for this rubbish

          • Andrew M

            Frugal,
            pretty ironic how you say the ADF hates the bushmaster yet only today there was a report on how they love them and that they are the envy of the other countries.

            Apparently something like 40 of them have been blown up by road side bombs, and not one single fatality. The design of the bushmaster is pretty good, and the troops say they feel safe as houses in them.

          • Tomas79

            Developed in Australia, but hardly all Australian…

          • Tomas79

            Also, resistance to mineblasts is part of the design criteria on all modern IMVs (infantry mobility vehicle).

    • GetReal

      FrugalOne your full of s&^%. I have been on operations in the Bushmaster (PMV). Nothing but praise for this vehicle. The ADF does not hate this vehicle. Get your facts straight before populating this forum with your crap….

    • greengsg9

      what about an ASLAV? could that survive the route?

  • Grr

    and our Army is meant to use these?? now im worried!

    • Devil’s Advocate

      As was mentioned by someone above to another poster. Read the article again and properly this time…

  • UMWHAT

    Like anyone who buys a G class is ever going to go outside their suburb

    • Grr

      they mite count the front lawn as off road!

      • Devil’s Advocate

        Don’t forget they have to try and park it at the carpark of their closest beach. The carpark may also be full so they will need a 4WD to park up the gutter/footpath!!!! ;-)

  • Meanstreak

    Bushmaster 4×4 Australian Armoured Infantry vehicle. It’s built by Thales Australia.

  • Meanstreak

    Yeah Hayzel. The yanks couldn’t build something as good as the bushmaster.

    • FrugalOne

      RUBBISH, American products are basic, simple to fix, reliable, and bomb proof.

      Put this G rubbish against a Hummer

      NEXT!

      • Acfsambo

        A Hummer, seriously. An army hummer or a civilian hummer? A civilian G series versus a civilian Hummer, the G series would win in most parts of the world for the fact that the hummer cannot fit down the tracks as well as the fact that GM built them on the cheap. A HMMWV vs an army spec G series is a different story, they would be more even, though the the only area the HMMWV would have the advantage is desert where track width isnt a problem.

      • http://www.facebook.com/priusfreezone Matthew Werner

        A H1 Hummer would be a good comparison as they were built in the same facilty as the military versions, a H2 Hummer (which is the one most people think of) is a turd, built on a Chevy Tahoe platform, and would be slaughtered by the civilian G Wagon

  • Daniel

    I don’t want to start a Toyota vs. Land Rover argument here, but say what you want about Land Rovers, I know for fact that the entire range has made is all the way across Australia with no trouble. This is disappointing…

    • zed 20

      To Have that knowledge you would have to have driven the truck carting them

  • http://www.nsmg.com.au Wil-son

    I guess 6 of them are the spare parts for the 7th one!!

    Anyone stupid enough to pay that money for a 40odd year old design deserves it to break!!! I remember in the late 70′s these things looked good, now, same look(not so good), different engine and triple the price! Still, they bang em out to the Mr Wannabe of Keppingupwiththekardashians just because they want to buy the most expensive, surburban tractor. Why buy a Hummer- they are for “common” folk, when you can buy something with just as bad dynamics, but five times the price!!

  • Martin

    Nothing wrong with the cars, its just the shockers. Every car needs shockers replaced at some point. Wonder what brand they are?
    As for the Bushmasters, didn’t they just come last in a trial for a tender for the aussie defence force?

    • Stan

      Yeah thats right Martin, the bushmaster finished last to M.A.N. & Mercedes in the recent Defence Force trials..they rolled over. But then a Labor minister tried to influence their decision in favour of the Bushmaster because they’re made in his electorate..Fairfax news ran a story on it.
      As for this story concerning the Merc G-wagen, what a pathetic beat up about nothing…it’s only the shockers for God’s sake.

      • Mikko

        It’s the Bushmaster Ute variant (and not the infantry carrier) that apparently came last – according to the paper.

        Also, no one has ever been killed riding in a Bushmaster when hit by a roadside bomb – something that other armoured vehicles in Afghanistan have never been able to achieve.

        • Spanner

          Mikko – has anyone been killed in an ASLAV yet? What about an armoured Mercedes Benz Actros? You might want to consider checking your facts before making sweeping comments.

          • Mikko

            We lost one ASLAV driver to an IED.

            But you’re comparing different kinds and classes of vehicles – an ASLAV is an APC; an Actros is an 8×8 heavy truck; the Bushmaster ute is a ute; the Bushmaster PMV is an infantry carrier.

            Even the Actros and the Bushmaster ute are competing in different categories in the Australian Army program.

            You should be the one checking your facts.

          • Spanner

            My bad – I had forgotten about the ASLAV driver. I understand that the vehicles that I mentioned are in different classes, however, your sweeping statement that “something other armoured vehicles in Afghanistan have never been able to achieve” did not specify that you were only talking about infantry carriers. I am happy that nobody has been killed in a Bushmaster and I only hope that it stays that way but obviously any armoured vehicle can find itself in an overmatch situation (Abrams tanks have a much higher protection level than the Bushmaster but even this armour can be defeated with a big enough explosion. I just hope like hell that this doesn’t happen to any of our vehicles!!

            I also understand that the Actros and Copperhead are competing in different categories. It is the Mercedes Benz Zetros and the MAN HX trucks that are competing against the Copperhead – all of them have strengths and weaknesses!!

            Everything seems to have gone quiet since the recent Age article about the Govt allegedly trying to influence the decision for armoured trucks…..wonder when the Govt will announce the winner??

    • RD

      a Fairfax source is so reliable….

      • Thrillhouse

        Can’t possibly be any worse than Newscorp. I see a few of you bought that fluff piece on channel 9 news the other night about the Bushmaster. Well done.

  • nickdl

    Well if you read the story on other sites you’ll find that the one that didn’t break was the army one so not to worry, these will be a fine vehicle for our defense force. You wouldn’t see many people attempt to do this track in a completely standard car anyway; most people would put aftermarket shock absorbers on. I’m not sure why Mercedes weren’t carrying any spares as they did know the road would be bad.

    It just goes to show what a pain getting parts for European cars is in Australia. They had to fly them from Melbourne to Perth, from there the shocks were put on a light plane to fly to a remote airstrip where the unbroken vehicle would collect them. A Toyota or a Nissan is the way to go if you’re going somewhere remote, at least you can get it fixed easily.

  • igor

    Hey, what’s with the sensationalist & misleading headlines CA ? The Merc’s DIDN’T break down, just the shockers which are made by either Koni, Monroe or Bilstein.
    Please show a bit more honesty, unless you think your readers are all idiots.

    • FrugalOne

      The parts used and failed where chosen by Benz and are Benz’s problem

    • davey

      It is Mercedes that compile and verify the TOTAL solution. If they have validated a sub-standard shock via inadequate testing, it falls on their reputation.

      Surely their marketing team would have factored in a risk assesment by doing a trial run before this highly publicised disaster…it just goes to show that the rich can also make dumb decisions.

      Whoever headed this project should be caned. Going this deep with identical vehicles leaves the group exposed to a bespoke condition that can take out the entire group…which has almost happened.

      I ask again, where was the test run?, or was this led by arrogance. Many of my friends have gone into very remote WA bush recently during the July holidays…all in one type of vehicle, and all came back in one piece.

  • FrugalOne

    GERMAN engineering!!!LOL

    One word if you go outback “70 SERIES”

    • Igor

      Hey FrugalOne, ever had to replace shockers on your 70 series? When you did, does that suddenly make your car crap?

      • FrugalOne

        no, i never changed the shocks, they where stuffed as was the rest of the bulletproof vehicle, but at 600,000km hard km’s and not a issue

        I miss my HJ47 ute, aka red-rattler

    • Phil

      Shocks have been replaced several times on my parents 1993 75 series which is currently on 130,000kms.
      One of the springs also snapped at one point and the transmission had to be replaced at around 100,000kms.

  • FrugalOne

    PR NIGHTMARE for BENZ, what did you expect for $160k?

    The Japanese brands management would be laughing there heads off

    Buy Japanese, no nonsens and proven and backed

  • The voice of reason

    Before anyone gets too carried away by the sensationalist headline, just how many Toyotas or Nissans would do this track with OEM suspension?

    People who are serious offroaders and set their vehicles up correctly will almost invariably run aftermarket shockies.

    So let’s at least put this story into some proper context.

    Note that the Pro version is thus far intact, proving it’s reliability and toughness.

    • Joey

      Good point Voice of Reason

      The first thing any 4×4 owner does is replace the suspension – to gain additional clearance and more importantly replace the crappy factory shocks

      Hardly a surprising result

  • Justin

    Land rover defender against a hummer?

    • zed 20

      they will sink at the same speed when driven off the wharf at Simular speeds,
      please sponsor me in doing this test,
      where’s mithbusters when you want them.

  • Troll No. 47

    Some of the comments here are utterly stupid. Is it school holidays again?

    The Canning Stock Route is one of the most punishing journeys you can undertake with a motor vehicle. You will find that most vehicles that tackle the ‘stock route will suffer some form of mechanical or driveline failure or problem, especially with OEM parts like shockies.

  • Shak

    As much as i loathe Toyota products for their range of excitement(massive sarcasm there), the 70 Series Landcruiser or the FJ could have done the job more reliably, as would a Land Rover Disco or Defender.

    • Phil

      You’ve never heard of any reliability problems with a Land Rover Disco?

      • Shak

        True, i cant deny that i have. I still think though that all six civilian versions of a Disco doing the same trek would not have failed…

    • Martin

      Depends on the shockers Shak, or have you completely missed the point of this article?

  • Meanstreak

    The Bushmaster failed? Since when? Frugal where is your proof the Bushmaster failed and if this is the case why did the Dutch buy them and the British?

    Oh and the Dutch don’t think they are rubbish, every soldier in one of their units came under heavy fire, mortar fire and RPG’s. They took refuge in the Bushmaster and were later evacuated with no injuries apart from the soldier shot outside the vehicle. They’ve proven themselves in combat situations and the ADF have continually increased their orders over the years.

    You know jack about the ADF Frugal or their equipment. I strongly suggest you don’t comment on anything you know nothing about. The guys at Thales would laugh in your face.

    • Martin

      It was widely reported in fairfax newspapers ( The Age, Sydney Morning Herald) 2 weeks ago. Google it if you don’t believe.The army didnt want them because they rolled over, were more thirsty ,cost three times more & were considered inferior to their German competitors.But a federal Labor minister was sprung interfering because Bushmasters are made in his electorate (Bendigo I think)& he feared job losses if they didnt get the contract.
      It’s public knowledge…but just disagree & ignore it if you like…if it makes you feel better.

      • Road Warrior

        The vehicle you are referring to is the experimental trayback “ute” version of the Bushie and Army has expressed concern over centre of gravity issues. NOT the standard Bushmaster.

  • Meanstreak

    And the Hummer is due for replacement by the American designed and Built MRAP which has been plagued by problems. The yanks should have bought the Bushmasters.

    • Spanner

      Don’t let facts get in the way of your comments. The MRAP program includes a multitude of vehicles, one of which is built by BAE (based in the UK). MRAP vehicles replaced HMMWV in Afghanistan due to escalation of the IED threat, however, they are a different class of vehicle and not a direct replacement for the HMMWV.

  • Meanstreak

    Martin, the Bushmaster has proven itself over and over again. Besides all these claims sound almost word for word from what the Americans have said about their MRAP’s. ( none of those were Bushmasters). The US army have had 40 Rollovers out of 66 major incidents. Sounds like Fairfax have grabbed this story and run with it to bag the Bushmaster.

    Cause we all know how reputable newspapers are, they are more interested in the facts that they are in selling newspapers through sensationalizing stuff.

    • Spanner

      A vehicle with a V-hull is going to naturally be more top heavy than a conventional-hull vehicle (basic laws of physics apply). The story reported by Fairfax was not about Bushmaster PMV, it was about the Copperhead which is basically a ute version of the PMV.

  • Meanstreak

    Lol. Good one Spanner, Next time Frugal might want to read the article in full before shooting his PRIMO Mouth off.

  • Toyota Guru

    Well whadya know, it’s the new Collins class 4WD. :D

  • Mopo

    Eurocrap. I smile each time I see a driver in a German car. Keeps the economy going
    with eye watering costly maintenance and constant repairs. The more costly the badge the lower the IQ,

    • F1MotoGP

      Just an info for you:

      “The Golf’s result in the RAC’s vehicle cost survey shatters the opinion that European cars are expensive to operate as the Golf topped a field which included Hyundai i30, Holden Cruze and Toyota Corolla.”

      Source: RACV and CarShowroom

    • Devil’s Advocate

      Whilst I am not disagreeing about the cost of many spare parts (not all) and things like options prices for Euro cars, the facts on “eye watering costly maintenance” is NOT ALWAYS that simple Mopo.
      Sure, a SINGLE service for something like a BMW is more expensive than say a Commodore or Falcon, HOWEVER many people fail to take into consideration that you only have to service them HALF as often. That helps spread that cost of servicing over more months/Kms. In fact, when serviced as per manufacturers specification, something like a BMW 3 series is actually CHEAPER to service than a Commodore or Falcon when you spread the cost over 3 years/60,000km (using 20,000km as the average distance a car travells in a year). Another example is that the BMW X5 is cheaper to service over that time/distance than something like a Hyundai Santa Fe.

      As I said at the start though, some (not all) spare parts and options pricing however are another thing!

      • Adonis

        Ever cared to look at what the oil looks like if you service at 20,000 km’s?

        • Devil’s Advocate

          I didn’t say it was right, I am only telling it how it is. There would be no way I would personally let a car go that long without “at a minimum” dropping the oil and changing a filter…

  • Alex

    If the only thing that fails is a shock absorber than they are not doing any worse than the typical Japanese 4WDs that traverse these trails. Most of them will still break even an after market heavy duty shock. Pretty impressive really because some of the vehicles still haven’t broken a thing.

    Well done.

  • PeterG

    Mopo is such a genius to have worked out that the best cars are the cheapest cars.

    But I wonder how a Great Wall 4WD would have faired on this trip?

  • Meanstreak

    Mopo, any time you wanna go head to head in an IQ test, I’ll be happy to prove you wrong!

  • Meanstreak

    ^ don’t you just love facts Mopo?

    Maybe you should try using some oneday.

  • Brett

    I cannot believe this crap. Of all the comments I have read, only two seemed to have ever attempted the Canning Stock Route. The rest of you assume that Land Rovers, FJ’s and Landcruisers would all achieve this feat without drama. You have never seen this track!! As such have utterly no idea of the nightmare road conditions that await the traveller! Also none of you have been reading/following the trek these guys are taking. They DID take spare shocks. Two for the normal G’s and two for the military version. They also took a massive amount of other gear and emergency supplies/equipment. Only around 500 vehicles ever attempt this per year. Almost all suffer mechanical problems. One other thing, these guys are achieving a much higher average speed than any other would normally try. So cut this uneducated crap out and go back to your lattes.

  • Mopo

    As I said “E U R O. C R A P”.

    • F1MotoGP

      What you driving??

  • anthony

    wow you all need to relax. big deal it had some broke parts. happens to everything. everywhere. the stockmans isnt the benchmark for. TOUGH CAR. EVER..IN THE WORLD.. ARHGG!.

    its.. just another track.
    as for hummer argument… its done alright for 30 years
    as for bushmaster. its been built. so its met its points.

    relax you silly internet people you :)

    your daily guru:P

  • Meanstreak

    You say alot of things with no substance or evidence. Which leads me to believe you’re just one of those loud mouthed idiots who have no friends so have to ruin it for others.

  • http://www.facebook.com/priusfreezone Matthew Werner

    “We have reduced the pace we are travelling at”… perhaps they were having a bit too much fun and driving them a bit too fast for the conditions?

  • Vidahlla

    Looks like way too much weight on the roof. Jerry cans, storage boxes with who knows how much weight in them. I wonder how much weight is up there?

  • PeterG

    I am scared that people like Mopo and Brett actually exist and I don’t even like lattes.

  • money from junk

    I’m buggered why no one has not banned frugal one he has nothing useful to post The G series is not an inferior product, the shocks maybe hangovers from the Jeeps Chrylser was knocking out at the Puch factory in Austria. I agree it probably would not stop a Landcruiser, be it 70 or FJ or even a 200. It all depends what condition the route was in, don’t compare a G series to anything you know unless you’ve owned one or are familiar with them or their design, they are a pretty amazing piece of kit to think otherwise is being foolish. All brands have hiccups now and then.

  • http://iandalton.com Ian Dalton

    My brother-in-law and 6x other vehicles are on the Canning at the moment. I should be with them. These are mostly farmers from Naracoorte in SA. We went up the Bush Telegraph track on the Cape with them 2 years ago. Always well prepared in a variety of 4xWD’s – none brand new. They too have had a couple of problems on this testing track in-spite of their careful preparation.

    What I liked about their attitude though, was their plan to drive to conditions. i.e. they weren’t going to rush the trip at speed. Perhaps that is part of the problem with the Mercedes test. Attacking the track is probably asking for disaster. However, 6 out of 7 isn’t a great record for shockers. Love to know which brand.

    • Charles

      Ian Dalton.  Is your brother-in-law a vehicle?

  • Meanstreak

    Send Frugal to Afghanistan to see IED’s in action. Perhaps then he will appreciate how good the Bushmaster is.

    On second thoughts he probably wet himself.

    • Tomas79

      But Bushmaster isn’t particularly resistant to IED’s either..

  • Graham

    I have just completed the Canning Stock Route in my 10 year old hilux. I had not problems, this same car has been twice across the centre. i.e. Gun Barrel & Simpson desert both ways, Arnhem Land, Cape York twice etc, The problem is speed, take it quietly and stop every hour and a half and all will last. Look at the 4wd adds, they never learn! It doesn’t stuff up the track and you have time to smell the mulla mulla.
    Hers to the slow, sensible drivers.

  • wyknot

    Maybe just maybe that this trip is test to see what things will break and what doesn’t. It appears to me that they are right on their load limit if not above it so if that is all they have broken then they are doing alright.

  • Keep Moving

    Driving around on Sydney roads does much the same, my local tyre and suspension shop owner can’t keep up with the carnage.

  • Gasman

    As usual, the bogans have come out in force. I can tell this by the spelling and grammar mistakes.
    and no I’m not rich and I’m only public school educated however, you lot are an embarressment to the rest of the nation and for reasons that cannot be explained, think Toyota is the new “Jesus”.
    I am at a loss to understand why a bogan would spend 80K on a L/C ute that only has 2 seats and until recently had no airbags or ABS.
    I think its good value and more importantly not to be a sheep. Baaaaaaaah

  • jock

    What about the old reliable Nissan Patrol with Cooper tyres, it’s done the route many times in the past and come out A-ok.