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	<title>Comments on: NSW Proposed P Plate Zero Tolerance Plan</title>
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		<title>By: joejoe</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-135031</link>
		<dc:creator>joejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehehe... stupid nsw govt. bring back JH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehehe&#8230; stupid nsw govt. bring back JH.</p>
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		<title>By: s guaran</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-69958</link>
		<dc:creator>s guaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok what sean said was exactly right... we can&#039;t introduce laws that only apply to one band of people. its undemocratic.
young drivers are not the only group with high statisticss for crashes..we&#039;re just the ones underrepresented in government. Other notable groups include the elderly and of course men:) 
the interesting thing is that the one argument the NSW government has really been driving home is that P platers are 15% of drivers, 25% of crashes. and yet these restrictions do not apply to p platers above 25- thus demonstrating that the reason for targeting us is not inexperience- but age.
and another thing! having less severe punishments for speeding offences for those with full licenses isnt just takign a harder line with p platers- it almost seems to be condoning speeding if you are above 25..
speeding is unacceptable- whatever your age group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok what sean said was exactly right&#8230; we can&#8217;t introduce laws that only apply to one band of people. its undemocratic.<br />
young drivers are not the only group with high statisticss for crashes..we&#8217;re just the ones underrepresented in government. Other notable groups include the elderly and of course men:)<br />
the interesting thing is that the one argument the NSW government has really been driving home is that P platers are 15% of drivers, 25% of crashes. and yet these restrictions do not apply to p platers above 25- thus demonstrating that the reason for targeting us is not inexperience- but age.<br />
and another thing! having less severe punishments for speeding offences for those with full licenses isnt just takign a harder line with p platers- it almost seems to be condoning speeding if you are above 25..<br />
speeding is unacceptable- whatever your age group.</p>
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		<title>By: georgia</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-66221</link>
		<dc:creator>georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wtf. Na seriously wtf. Having these new laws set would be a massive inconvenience for most P plate drivers. I think its compleatly arogant of the government to be so clueless in how young people drive. yeh I&#039;m not saying there all perfect, but the old people have a two to three times higher accident rate the that of the young drivers. Old people crash a car and its ok but when a P plater has a crash its all over the news and its all ways the P platers fault. Its like they think it fn halariuos for them to watch us suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wtf. Na seriously wtf. Having these new laws set would be a massive inconvenience for most P plate drivers. I think its compleatly arogant of the government to be so clueless in how young people drive. yeh I&#8217;m not saying there all perfect, but the old people have a two to three times higher accident rate the that of the young drivers. Old people crash a car and its ok but when a P plater has a crash its all over the news and its all ways the P platers fault. Its like they think it fn halariuos for them to watch us suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly Davison</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-58624</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i disagree with alot of these new laws!
ive just turned 16
and feel no urgency to drive.

it seems all too hard
for god sake!
 less ppl aloud in car = more drunk drivers.

zero demerit points = virtually impossible.

you cant abolish accidents, unless we all drive around in bubbles made of brick that go 4-5 kms  p/hour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i disagree with alot of these new laws!<br />
ive just turned 16<br />
and feel no urgency to drive.</p>
<p>it seems all too hard<br />
for god sake!<br />
 less ppl aloud in car = more drunk drivers.</p>
<p>zero demerit points = virtually impossible.</p>
<p>you cant abolish accidents, unless we all drive around in bubbles made of brick that go 4-5 kms  p/hour</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-49105</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These laws are so completely stupid! Everyone who&#039;s left comments is right. Sure there needs to be some changes but these aren&#039;t going to work
There are so many reasons why these will cause even more accidents:
As mentioned there&#039;s going to be a whole lot more teenagers on the road during these times cause you can&#039;t have more than 1 passenger. Good luck to them if they think 50% of P platers at a party won&#039;t drink.

Everyone makes mistakes I&#039;m sure they did and they didnt have so many restrictions. Treat us like idiots and there&#039;ll be people who act like idiots. Everywhere else in the world don&#039;t have stupid restrictions come to think of it they dont even have L&#039;s or P&#039;s they have a driving course and either pass or they don&#039;t.
 So stop treating us like idiots cause we&#039;re not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These laws are so completely stupid! Everyone who&#8217;s left comments is right. Sure there needs to be some changes but these aren&#8217;t going to work<br />
There are so many reasons why these will cause even more accidents:<br />
As mentioned there&#8217;s going to be a whole lot more teenagers on the road during these times cause you can&#8217;t have more than 1 passenger. Good luck to them if they think 50% of P platers at a party won&#8217;t drink.</p>
<p>Everyone makes mistakes I&#8217;m sure they did and they didnt have so many restrictions. Treat us like idiots and there&#8217;ll be people who act like idiots. Everywhere else in the world don&#8217;t have stupid restrictions come to think of it they dont even have L&#8217;s or P&#8217;s they have a driving course and either pass or they don&#8217;t.<br />
 So stop treating us like idiots cause we&#8217;re not</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-20335</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the rules are now here.  What concerns me the most that that P platers can lose their licence for something inadvertant, as opposed to flouting the law.

I dont know of a single driver who has not had a minor traffic fine or has not exceeded the speed limit by a small amount at some time.

I think if the legislation is reasonable, which I dont think it is, then lets accept it for ALL drivers.

We have the situation where P plate drivers in rural areas will lose their jobs for what is in some cases, an arbitrary and trivial offence.

I will NEVER vote labour while this madness continues.

S Davis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the rules are now here.  What concerns me the most that that P platers can lose their licence for something inadvertant, as opposed to flouting the law.</p>
<p>I dont know of a single driver who has not had a minor traffic fine or has not exceeded the speed limit by a small amount at some time.</p>
<p>I think if the legislation is reasonable, which I dont think it is, then lets accept it for ALL drivers.</p>
<p>We have the situation where P plate drivers in rural areas will lose their jobs for what is in some cases, an arbitrary and trivial offence.</p>
<p>I will NEVER vote labour while this madness continues.</p>
<p>S Davis</p>
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		<title>By: Jad</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-14110</link>
		<dc:creator>Jad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All These Laws Are Bullshit!! All They Do Is Encourage Us To Do The Opposite!! It Makes Things More Of A Challenge And Makes It Funner !!   STUPID GOVERNMENT DOESNT KNOW SHIT !!     They just cant think of anything better to do then target us !! Haha Well all i can say is GOODLUCK!! but your shit aint gona work its just go make things worse !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All These Laws Are Bullshit!! All They Do Is Encourage Us To Do The Opposite!! It Makes Things More Of A Challenge And Makes It Funner !!   STUPID GOVERNMENT DOESNT KNOW SHIT !!     They just cant think of anything better to do then target us !! Haha Well all i can say is GOODLUCK!! but your shit aint gona work its just go make things worse !!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-11703</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way a HUGE AMEN to Ali Carse for his post, i couldnt of said it better myself, spot on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way a HUGE AMEN to Ali Carse for his post, i couldnt of said it better myself, spot on!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-11702</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find it hipocritical that the ADULTS are killing more then 4 times more people on the road then us p plate drivers and they wont even inforce the same dam laws on themselfs. How bout the RTA take a good look at whos causing more of a problem and focus on them.... or are they just too scared to take on some 1 their own size?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find it hipocritical that the ADULTS are killing more then 4 times more people on the road then us p plate drivers and they wont even inforce the same dam laws on themselfs. How bout the RTA take a good look at whos causing more of a problem and focus on them&#8230;. or are they just too scared to take on some 1 their own size?</p>
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		<title>By: jenzley</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1299/nsw-proposed-p-plate-zero-tolerance-plan/#comment-11527</link>
		<dc:creator>jenzley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm..... yer i dunnno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm&#8230;.. yer i dunnno</p>
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