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		<title>By: XR_2 Capri</title>
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		<dc:creator>XR_2 Capri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a sight that did the n24 live streaming, 2 f*****g days to late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a sight that did the n24 live streaming, 2 f*****g days to late.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 10:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see KIA demonstrating the reliability of a stock standard product. 

To all u KIA and Hyundai knockers out there
u can thank them for the three year warranty on your new Toyota as it wouldn&#039;t have come about without their competition.

Notices how standard equipment levels have improved since the Koreans have been raising the bar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see KIA demonstrating the reliability of a stock standard product. </p>
<p>To all u KIA and Hyundai knockers out there<br />
u can thank them for the three year warranty on your new Toyota as it wouldn&#8217;t have come about without their competition.</p>
<p>Notices how standard equipment levels have improved since the Koreans have been raising the bar?</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Now I think I understand your logic - Lexus had problems, and finished well down the order.  But it&#039;s a better car BECAUSE it had problems.  Oh, yeah, baby - that&#039;s logic.

To summarise -  One Kia in the race, one Lexus in the race.  Kia finishes 5 laps ahead.  Lexus is therefore  better, according to Rofltic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Now I think I understand your logic &#8211; Lexus had problems, and finished well down the order.  But it&#8217;s a better car BECAUSE it had problems.  Oh, yeah, baby &#8211; that&#8217;s logic.</p>
<p>To summarise &#8211;  One Kia in the race, one Lexus in the race.  Kia finishes 5 laps ahead.  Lexus is therefore  better, according to Rofltic.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not serious right Reckless? Half the cars were BMW&#039;s and Porsches. A lot of them failed to finish due to technical difficulties, one would presume.

This is exactly what the Lexus had, look at the lap times.

Stick to your excel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not serious right Reckless? Half the cars were BMW&#8217;s and Porsches. A lot of them failed to finish due to technical difficulties, one would presume.</p>
<p>This is exactly what the Lexus had, look at the lap times.</p>
<p>Stick to your excel.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep people are correct, the Kia Pro_Cee&#039;d (stupidist name EVER!) pre-dated the hyundai i30, however the current model hyundai elantra predated both of them! All three cars ofcourse share the same platform.

The Kia is probably the looker of the three, and apparently is the best to drive and the most well built one too. Kia&#039;s are essentially hyundai&#039;s with a Kia badge these days though so its not like there is any bragging rights, all owned and run by the same management</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep people are correct, the Kia Pro_Cee&#8217;d (stupidist name EVER!) pre-dated the hyundai i30, however the current model hyundai elantra predated both of them! All three cars ofcourse share the same platform.</p>
<p>The Kia is probably the looker of the three, and apparently is the best to drive and the most well built one too. Kia&#8217;s are essentially hyundai&#8217;s with a Kia badge these days though so its not like there is any bragging rights, all owned and run by the same management</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure the &quot;slow and steady&quot; can be applied to diesels, after all, Audi has won the Le Mans 24 hour numerous times with a diesel.  Seat is winning races in the British 2.0 litre class with the diesels.

The results sheet looks like the rest of the world were excluded, leaving only German cars......but there were a sprinkling of foreign cars.

Rofltic, you have no logic skills. Kia did not place ahead of all the cars you mentioned.  It did comprehensively thrash your Lexus, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure the &#8220;slow and steady&#8221; can be applied to diesels, after all, Audi has won the Le Mans 24 hour numerous times with a diesel.  Seat is winning races in the British 2.0 litre class with the diesels.</p>
<p>The results sheet looks like the rest of the world were excluded, leaving only German cars&#8230;&#8230;but there were a sprinkling of foreign cars.</p>
<p>Rofltic, you have no logic skills. Kia did not place ahead of all the cars you mentioned.  It did comprehensively thrash your Lexus, though.</p>
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		<title>By: themarvel</title>
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		<dc:creator>themarvel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting the diesel &quot;slow and steady&quot; philosophy can pay off - the results of the latest Nurburg 24hr prove it with a BMW 320d coming in 13th!!! That is better than any of the Astons, most of the M3&#039;s and lots of Porsches and every other entrant. In fact, the top 16 was comprised of 8 Porsches, 4 BMW&#039;s, and the 2 VW Siroccos. Pretty small selection when you think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting the diesel &#8220;slow and steady&#8221; philosophy can pay off &#8211; the results of the latest Nurburg 24hr prove it with a BMW 320d coming in 13th!!! That is better than any of the Astons, most of the M3&#8217;s and lots of Porsches and every other entrant. In fact, the top 16 was comprised of 8 Porsches, 4 BMW&#8217;s, and the 2 VW Siroccos. Pretty small selection when you think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would buy that if Kia sold it here. Looks so much better than its Hyundai cousin. and interior pics from KIA&#039;s UK site  arent half bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would buy that if Kia sold it here. Looks so much better than its Hyundai cousin. and interior pics from KIA&#8217;s UK site  arent half bad.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By your logic kia is also better than bmw and porsche and just about everybody. Take a look in the other thread at the placings and look at all the retired cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By your logic kia is also better than bmw and porsche and just about everybody. Take a look in the other thread at the placings and look at all the retired cars.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just tell that to the next lexus driver you pass in your kia Reckless1...

I&#039;m sure they will care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just tell that to the next lexus driver you pass in your kia Reckless1&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they will care.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the wankers who think Kia cars are crap, let it be known that this car lapped the Lexus LF-A 5 times during the race.  Straight from the showroom (except for compulsory race safety items like roll cage) 

And it looks better too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the wankers who think Kia cars are crap, let it be known that this car lapped the Lexus LF-A 5 times during the race.  Straight from the showroom (except for compulsory race safety items like roll cage) </p>
<p>And it looks better too!</p>
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		<title>By: davidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, quite right the Ceed family of vehicles preceeded, forgive the pun, the Hyundai i30 by some time. This vehicle sells gangbusters in Europe, about 130,000 a year, is available in convertible, wagon, hatch and five-door and having driven both the Ceed and the i30 i&#039;d have to say the Kia is an even better drive than the Hyundai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, quite right the Ceed family of vehicles preceeded, forgive the pun, the Hyundai i30 by some time. This vehicle sells gangbusters in Europe, about 130,000 a year, is available in convertible, wagon, hatch and five-door and having driven both the Ceed and the i30 i&#8217;d have to say the Kia is an even better drive than the Hyundai.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a clone... I have known of the Cee&#039;d WAY before the i30.

And personally, it&#039;s much better, I like the look of it more, and you get different variants, rather than just the one hatch.

BTW, anti-spam Kia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a clone&#8230; I have known of the Cee&#8217;d WAY before the i30.</p>
<p>And personally, it&#8217;s much better, I like the look of it more, and you get different variants, rather than just the one hatch.</p>
<p>BTW, anti-spam Kia.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal One</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*****PRIMO!*****

A hyundai i30 clone!

When will they sell it here?

Be ok for $9999 driveaway no-more-to-pay!

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*****PRIMO!*****</p>
<p>A hyundai i30 clone!</p>
<p>When will they sell it here?</p>
<p>Be ok for $9999 driveaway no-more-to-pay!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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