Comments on: Hot $ won’t stop Holden exports

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:25:44 +0000

NM,
and the Pregio did the exact same thing a few years back.

every one was starting to buy the Pregio van because it was half decent and you could get it in a diesel at a reasonable/great price compared to the Hiace.

yep agree the new hiace does look the part though.

apparently toyota bought out the Pregio because it was stealing its market share

so now its the hyundai I Load’s turn to unsettle the Hiace?

whats the cargo size of the hyundai?

By: Naughtyius Maximus

Naughtyius Maximus — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:18:03 +0000

And if I step up next car; in 70K bracket. Either Mercedes or Peugeot; something with pizazz and razza mattaz. Not watching paint dry boring shyte!

By: Naughtyius Maximus

Naughtyius Maximus — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:16:34 +0000

Gotta agree hey ANDREW M. It is what sets it apart from others as not everybody wants xenon front headlights. My Falcon ute is a marvel, cheap as to run, faultfree and gets worked. My sparky has a Toyota Hiace and is step up from last model….he has few issues but it looks the goods. Few Hyundai’s getting around and from what I heard and reading in HIA literature; they are shaking market up and think to quote a polly from years ago “To keep the b*stards honest” is my response to the Hyundai vans!

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:08:42 +0000

NM,
i think TP missed my point.

if people spend a minimal amount ie 20-30K then its for “just a car”
if they are spending 70K, its because they are looking for something more than “just a car”.

people who purchase in the 70K bracket care more about performance, handling and comfort etc
or in summary, they are more into the car

By: Golfschwein

Golfschwein — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:06:40 +0000

My spam word was “Lotus”, Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious.

These cars would appear near the bottom of any mainstream-style reliability survey. Yet people buy them. I guess they must be car enthusiasts, not consumer enthusiasts.

One will never understand the other.

By: Naughtyius Maximus

Naughtyius Maximus — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:01:10 +0000

Too right Andrew M. I guess that explains why I can count on one hand how many Toyota’s see in taxi ranks. Then if we look at other areas in the world; where Toyota is not as prominent we see many taxis as trying to get dominance in areas where Toyota not liked by general buying public. NO NAME backs this up and would rather listen to real people and real comments instead of real hairy fairy Big T responses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: TP

TP — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:38:16 +0000

Ummm Id prefer a car that lasts thanks AndrewM! $70k aint pocket change for me, a cars first priority is to run and actually do what it was design to, get from point A to point Z. Then performance comes into play. Obviously extreme examples, its about balance in the real world.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:20:56 +0000

TP,
and on the other hand its pointless having a car that lasts for 1000000000000k’s if you dont enjoy driving the thing.
if you are going to spend 70K for a Vehicle, wouldnt one demand a bit of enjoyable/comfortable driving?

By: TP

TP — Thu, 22 May 2008 09:12:34 +0000

Thats all Im saying Golf… yet it won, but that doesnt mean it truly is the best car. Time will tell overall. Pointless having 1000000000000kw if it lasts 1 week.

By: Golfschwein

Golfschwein — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:59:10 +0000

How can they, TP? They are awarding newly released cars. If they’re rubbish, word will get around.

The Middle East loves big, brassy Chevs with V8s, whether it’s a Lumina SS or a Caprice.

Only Holden can deliver.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:44:50 +0000

wheelnut,
why are you responding to a man that cant be reasoned with?

dont even read his posts!!!!!!!!

By: TP

TP — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:41:32 +0000

Criteria for those awards doesnt include reliability. Surveys highlight Toyota are on top in this department. Afterall whats the ppoint of a car with performance when it only lasts half the distance of a lesser car.

P.S Better watch that temper Wheelnut

By: Bret

Bret — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:27:57 +0000

Dingo,
Thanks for the admission.
However painting either the “local” Camry or the Aurion as being anywhere near re-engineered is stretching it. Both are just minor Australianised versions of the USA designed Camry (4 or 6 cyl).

By: Naughtyius Maximus

Naughtyius Maximus — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:45:32 +0000

I second motion to cull Dingoes comments and not even respond to them as does “NOT” deserve a glance!

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:14:37 +0000

just ignore him guys.

you know you all can be more of a man than he is, so just do what i do and dont even read any of his posts. that way it eleminates temptation to respond

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Thu, 22 May 2008 07:11:51 +0000

Quote: [Dingo]Wheelnut … you just displayed ignorance by stating that everybody prefers to drive a Holden in the Middle-East.

Correct me if i am wrong but Commodores are every bit as much as a Taxi in the Middle East as the Camry not to mention Toyota exports by greater numbers to the market.

So, yes … you know about ignorance.

Read what I said [in full]again Dingo.. I didn’t say that EVERY taxi in the Middle East is a Toyota.. Nor did I say that EVERYONE in the Middle East drives a Holden just like not everyone in Australia drives a Toyota – no matter how much you would like us to.

All I said was that as both the SS and the Statesman had won ME COTY awards they must be damn good cars because those in Dubai didn’t make their money by buying things that are of poor or inferior quality.. I mean the Holdens are competing against Aston Martins and other premium luxury performance cars and they Won…. as I said Not Bad

By: Bret

Bret — Thu, 22 May 2008 05:50:07 +0000

Dingo, NOPE! The Aurion is a USA engineered V6 camry with a minor restyle of a few exterior panels. The Aurion is effectively mechanically identical to the USA Camry, including the 3.5 liter (sic) V6.
Did you really think that you could throw in the red herring of an invented different engine size?

The only re-engineering was limited to the minimal Australianising of the suspension tune.

And no, I don’t either need nor want a commodore history lesson, only blind Holden loyalists fail to recognise the dodgy origins.

By: Adam (aka Mada)

Adam (aka Mada) — Thu, 22 May 2008 05:24:46 +0000

Are you DINGO BAT or Toyota Paul???

Love to change names, don’t you.

By: trackdaze

trackdaze — Thu, 22 May 2008 01:11:44 +0000

Toyota also imports more vehicles than anyone else JW. it also has been fined by the ATO for deceptively over pricing the cost of its imports so it pays less tax in Australia.

One can imagine it also underprices its exports to do the same.

By: Bret

Bret — Thu, 22 May 2008 00:52:08 +0000

Dingo (etc etc etc) says “..engineering of the Aurion..”
Nope! The Aurion or more commonly known elsewhere as the Camry V6 was engineered in USA. All Toyota Aus did was a styling exercise. SFA engineering there.