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		<title>By: XR_2 Capri</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12821/nissan-nec-aesc/#comment-74279</link>
		<dc:creator>XR_2 Capri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hybrid is only a stop gap for our reliance on fossil fuel, so unless hydrogen or electric comes out to the forfront then we will all be bicycling it.
Unless there is a &quot;standard&quot; of a battery pack shape and the infrastrucure involved then hydrogen is the only choice.
It is like Windows,Linux and Mac OSX they all run a computer but are mostly incompatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hybrid is only a stop gap for our reliance on fossil fuel, so unless hydrogen or electric comes out to the forfront then we will all be bicycling it.<br />
Unless there is a &#8220;standard&#8221; of a battery pack shape and the infrastrucure involved then hydrogen is the only choice.<br />
It is like Windows,Linux and Mac OSX they all run a computer but are mostly incompatable.</p>
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		<title>By: booter</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12821/nissan-nec-aesc/#comment-74241</link>
		<dc:creator>booter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow even more environmentally unfreindly batteries to be lumped on the world.  surely there has got to be a better solution.  and there is no way that all car manufacturers would agree to the same spec battery that could be universally replaced.  and doesnt battery powered cars just mean a huge need for more power stations??? quick take your pick, coal or nuclear!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow even more environmentally unfreindly batteries to be lumped on the world.  surely there has got to be a better solution.  and there is no way that all car manufacturers would agree to the same spec battery that could be universally replaced.  and doesnt battery powered cars just mean a huge need for more power stations??? quick take your pick, coal or nuclear!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: XR_2 Capri</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12821/nissan-nec-aesc/#comment-74084</link>
		<dc:creator>XR_2 Capri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the problem there but normally on cars or bikes that have a meter saying that you have a set amount left to go, then you could minus the amount left and pay for the fully charged one.
So say you have (in radio control car battery terms) 1000mah left in the battery and you are swapping a 5000mah for it you would only pay for 4000mah 
Yes it would be a long time before it went out west,
but it all relys on how long the cars coming out can go on a charge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the problem there but normally on cars or bikes that have a meter saying that you have a set amount left to go, then you could minus the amount left and pay for the fully charged one.<br />
So say you have (in radio control car battery terms) 1000mah left in the battery and you are swapping a 5000mah for it you would only pay for 4000mah<br />
Yes it would be a long time before it went out west,<br />
but it all relys on how long the cars coming out can go on a charge?</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12821/nissan-nec-aesc/#comment-74045</link>
		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only one problem with exchanging batteries like gas bottles - the batteries aren&#039;t always emptied, so you would end up paying for unused capacity.  When you exchange the gas bottle, it&#039;s empty.

More likely the best batteries will be rapid charge types, such that you can fully charge from say 1/4 charged to fully charged in 1 hour.  Then the servos would consist of a line of chargers, and you would go and have lunch at their restaurant while waiting.

Not sure how that would work in remote Australia, probably wouldn&#039;t.  So You&#039;ll still need a good old diesel for round Australia travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one problem with exchanging batteries like gas bottles &#8211; the batteries aren&#8217;t always emptied, so you would end up paying for unused capacity.  When you exchange the gas bottle, it&#8217;s empty.</p>
<p>More likely the best batteries will be rapid charge types, such that you can fully charge from say 1/4 charged to fully charged in 1 hour.  Then the servos would consist of a line of chargers, and you would go and have lunch at their restaurant while waiting.</p>
<p>Not sure how that would work in remote Australia, probably wouldn&#8217;t.  So You&#8217;ll still need a good old diesel for round Australia travel.</p>
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		<title>By: XR_2 Capri</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12821/nissan-nec-aesc/#comment-74016</link>
		<dc:creator>XR_2 Capri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 13:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all the car makers agreed to make all the battery packs go in the same position so it goes down the center line of the car, you could slide the pack out at a service station (if you were doing a long trip)and just slide another charged one in then you could &quot;reFILL&quot; it up in a matter of minutes.
 The service stations are there already so you have the infrastructure. Just like exchanging your gas bottle plus you charge overnight at your home if you needed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all the car makers agreed to make all the battery packs go in the same position so it goes down the center line of the car, you could slide the pack out at a service station (if you were doing a long trip)and just slide another charged one in then you could &#8220;reFILL&#8221; it up in a matter of minutes.<br />
 The service stations are there already so you have the infrastructure. Just like exchanging your gas bottle plus you charge overnight at your home if you needed to.</p>
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		<title>By: Joober</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12821/nissan-nec-aesc/#comment-73952</link>
		<dc:creator>Joober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 09:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, displacement are heading to things of the past, and eventually confined to historics, collectors domain.

But dont worry sooner or later with technology you&#039;ll be getting big wads of power from small packages ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, displacement are heading to things of the past, and eventually confined to historics, collectors domain.</p>
<p>But dont worry sooner or later with technology you&#8217;ll be getting big wads of power from small packages <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 09:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clever move to guarrantee your battery supplies and make a fortune on theback of it as well.

Having seen diesel here (UK) at $3.05/litre electric needs to be here now by the sound of it. I was reading May 08 Car Magazine regarding performance of electric cars. It sounds absolutely awsome the likely figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clever move to guarrantee your battery supplies and make a fortune on theback of it as well.</p>
<p>Having seen diesel here (UK) at $3.05/litre electric needs to be here now by the sound of it. I was reading May 08 Car Magazine regarding performance of electric cars. It sounds absolutely awsome the likely figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds good.

And with Nissan, hopefully they will showcase a car with 2 cylindrical tubes on both side of the car, just as a style. But those would be huge rechargeable lithium-ion batteries....

They should develop batteries that discharge less as they are cooled, since car designers are so good in designing airflow for the engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds good.</p>
<p>And with Nissan, hopefully they will showcase a car with 2 cylindrical tubes on both side of the car, just as a style. But those would be huge rechargeable lithium-ion batteries&#8230;.</p>
<p>They should develop batteries that discharge less as they are cooled, since car designers are so good in designing airflow for the engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Naughtyius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naughtyius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree BULB.....thats what amazes me massively. All the hoopla and blah blah blah with V6&#039;s and V8&#039;s are becoming yesterdays hero&#039;s and appeal less daily. Smaller more fuel efficient motors are the go and not giant wads of power! No wonder Toyota is well placed as they have gone done range away from V6&#039;s and V8&#039;s and high performance to appeal to fuel 
price conscious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree BULB&#8230;..thats what amazes me massively. All the hoopla and blah blah blah with V6&#8242;s and V8&#8242;s are becoming yesterdays hero&#8217;s and appeal less daily. Smaller more fuel efficient motors are the go and not giant wads of power! No wonder Toyota is well placed as they have gone done range away from V6&#8242;s and V8&#8242;s and high performance to appeal to fuel<br />
price conscious.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbulb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightbulb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems we might be all driving electric cars soon with petrol prices rising all the time.

Cheers !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems we might be all driving electric cars soon with petrol prices rising all the time.</p>
<p>Cheers !</p>
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