• Al Juraj

    You pay 32K for gutless engine, underdeveloped gearbox with no manual override, cheap torsion beam rear suspension, and not much else? For crying out loud, it’s about the same price as an Accord Euro, which is miles better.

    • Gianni

      Yeah but the thing is this is an auto. My dad have a manual and it is WAY more refined than the auto. It’s faster and compliments the cars sporty appearance.

    • JK

      Hyundai Veloster would be worth the value over the Civic Si. Or the Elantra for that matter.

  • vti07

    Bring over the 3 door non type R version of this (as available in the UK) and sell it for around the same price as a base Corolla. I notice there are 3 engine choices in the UK – 1.4, 1.8 and 2.2 diesel. You would have to be silly to buy one with the 1.4L engine.

    (this Si is the 5 door version).

  • Jake Williams

    So it’s great everywhere except a small section of the review and then it’s not worth buying?Love the look but Honda, the Euro is the same price and a much better buy! And I HATE Euros too! Golf 118TSI if I wanted a Euro car, Mazda3 SP25 if I wanted a Jap car, simple as that.

    • Matt

      For a Jap car I’d beg to differ, the Lancer everytime for me

      • scottjames_12

        Each to his own I guess, care to elaborate on why you like the Lancer better?

      • anthony

        The Lancer hatchback has to be the ugliest new car on the market…yuck.

        • hehe

          you forgot about the chinese cars LOL

  • Pauly

    Where is the CRZ Honda Australia? Can Car Advice contact them and get more specific dates?

    Shame that Honda Aus refuse diesel engines…

    • K20A

      CR-Z is later this year. Don’t get too excited though, it’s not as ‘sporty’ as it promises. Still a better drive than a Prius, mind.

      It’s not that they refuse diesel engines, the issue is around transmission. The diesel engines from Europe are only available mated with manual trans. There’s simply no market for manual cars here. Not enough to justify the business case anyway. However, we may soon see a diesel down here because reports are saying they have developed an auto to go with it. Question is when.. no one really knows. Here’s hoping the next gen Civic (sedan) will offer a diesel engine. All their cars (but Jazz) desperately need diesel.

      • aball

        According to Honda’s UK website the Accord (“Euro” here) is available with a 2.2L diesel and a 5 speed auto AND a wagon.As is the CRV. South Africa even gets diesel auto models! Come Honda, get serious

        • anthony

          Yes,I was just in South Africa,where the Euro Accord is very desirable,expecially in DIESEL and WAGON format…and gets crosse shopped with BMW,Mercedes,and Audi,not Mainly Mazda and VW,like in Australia.

  • NICK

    It looks like a jelly bean no need for this in australia have an accord 3.5 petrol great car who will buy this

  • Samr

    I wish you guys would test drive manuals.

    You say the 1.8-litre engine struggles, yeah, of course, it is mated to a crappy auto.

    • Phil

      Well according to one of the other reviewers from CA, Automatics give extra driveability and manuals don’t cope with regular peak hour traffic.

      • Shak

        Its not that they cant cope with peak hour traffic, its just that most PEOPLE cant cope with a manual in peak hour traffic. Most manuals, if anything are more durable and provide much more driveability than MOST automatics.

        • Thrillhouse

          Especially in FWD 4 cylinder configuration. Why you would want an auto in a small, FWD 4 cylinder is absolutely beyond me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1715760895 Charles Dean

    I like the regular civic.. Better..

    • anthony

      The Civic sedan has aged really well,and is STILL a great looking car.

  • ST

    May I suggest in future reviews that you show rough measurements of some interior and boot dimensions (length, height, width etc) with a tape measurer or use the old method of taking photos of the boot area with standard size suit cases? I’d greatly visualise the amount of space these cars actually have (or don’t have).

    Thanks for the reviews though.

  • DWS1

    A normal Civic sedan is a great buy compared to this.

  • Yonny

    No doubt about it, it’s a good-looking car. But that’s about all it has going for it. You’d have to really, really, really like this car to choose it over the Accord Euro (to name just one).

    Wonder if that 1.8 litre would fit into the Jazz? Sure, it would violate Honda’s power principle (which seems to be: too little power is more than enough) but a Jazz with 103 Kw and 176 Nm would be worth a look.

    • vti07

      The 1.8L probably wouldn’t fit in the Jazz but there is a 1.8L version of the City available in China and nowhere else.

      Honda are apparently developing a 1.6 L turbo petrol engine option for the CR-Z which may eventually find its way into Jazz/Civic as well.

  • Mr Gaspo

    Honda product planning is hopeless! Honda have one of the best diesels in the business and then offer us product suited more to Nth America… Go figure. When the next gen i30 and Mazda SkyActiv range is released it will be game over for Honda. Honda needs affordable auto diesels across the range now.

    • scottjames_12

      Not to mention the new Focus with TDCI and Powershift transmission..

  • Ng0

    Why doesn’t USA get the Toyota Aurion?

    • zahmad

      Because Camry is same sized and they have Avalon I believe?

      • Al Juraj

        They get the V6 version of the Camry, essentially the same car.

  • bangel

    When the type R first hit OZ i was very excited about the looks , modern .

    Not so, time has dated this car very quickly , once again asian design does not stand up against contempory euro shapes .

    • PS

      Hey Bangel, this is Euro Civic, which was designed in Europe, not Asia.

  • Octavian

    It’s a shame that we have to get our Civics from the UK and not Japan. If ours were from Japan it would be at least $5,000 cheaper.

    • macca2005

      That is what I keep telling my wife, who is as keen as mustard to buy one. Why does this thing come from the UK?

  • save it for the track

    ‘commendable boot capacity of 415 litres’??? Yet in a Hyundai Elantra review recently the incorrectly quoted figure of 420 litres was described as massive?? (actual figures 402-vda, 458-sae) Can these reviews specify vda or sae for boot capacities as both are used in Australia (and even within same manufacturers), so a realistic comparison can be made between vehicles. SAE measurement giving a larger reading. Either way, doesn’t seem to be much difference in capacities in this instance despite the differences in subjective descriptions…. Strange…

    • Benjie

      Do you realise that litres is a universal metric measurement?

      It doesn’t sound like it.

      • save it for the track

        Really? litre is a universal metric measurement? NO. Seriously? Do YOU realise that there are THREE different METHODS (i.e. ways of doing the measurement).
        .
        They are SAE, DIN, and VDA, with VDA giving a smaller result than SAE, and DIN generally not quoted in Aus in regard to cargo capacity. SAe using varying sizes of ‘boxes’ to arrive at a result, with VDA using smaller sized ‘boxes’, and if DIN were used a standard volume box of 1 litre is used.
        An article or two has popped up over the years in the occasional magazine, and some car companies quote both figures (e.g. Hyundai Aus website with elantra specs), while some companies (hello Holden), quote the larger figure when it suits and the smaller when they aren’t bothered about trying to say that their uberwagon thingy is bigger than another companies run of the mill wagon thingy, or some such. I suppose you believe that a gallon is a gallon right? Think again. Maybe do some research before trying to criticise someone else.
        .
        For accurate and fair comparison, between vehicles VDA and SAE should be quoted for all vehicles, until the manufacturers decide on one or the other. In the case of quoted interior volume a litre is NOT necessarily a litre.

    • Phil

      CA does seem to have a Hyundai bias.

      Also if you google “John Cadogan” – one of CA’s writers, you will find he appears to work for Hyundai with a article from Fairfax media listing him as Hyundai’s
      Media consultant” – amongst numerous other articles where he did work for Hyundai.

      • Thrillhouse

        Yeah, funny they didn’t mention that ‘unbiased comparison’ that got pulled for distorting the truth. Caradvice is definitely slipping in the quality department.

  • hehe

    Honda, if you’re reading this:

    a) Your pricing sucks! Wake up and get real!
    b) Train and re-train all your sales people and get rid of the tossers you’re hiring right now. I cringe everytime I walk into a Honda showroom

  • nickdl

    This is actually a really good car at this price. It’s very well equipped, good looking, good to drive and very practical, not to mention Honda’s reliability reputation. The reviewer forgot to mention the Magic seats, which are the same in the Jazz. I’d probably buy the manual version, as it goes better with the engine. A dual clutch box might be better instead of a five-speed auto, but then Honda would only see that as another thing to go wrong.

    • macca2005

      My wife is really keen to buy one, it has all the bells and whistles. I tend to be a bit worried about the pricing, as can get a Mazda SP25 for the same price. We currently have a Mazda 3 and it goes great. Is this possible purchase going to be a set back?

      • nickdl

        Well, the SP25 hatch would be the main competitor, it too is very well equipped for the money. The Mazda is more focussed on driver enjoyment whereas the Honda is a good, practical everyday car. If your wife wants an auto, then I’d definitely say go for the Mazda. However the Honda in a manual is a great car and is a bit different from the now very common Mazda.

        • macca2005

          Hi nickdl, thanks for your thoughts. They are the same as ours. We are manual drivers and enjoyed the test drive in the civic si. We agree that the Mazda is an everyman/woman’s car, we call them ‘buts’, everybody has one, a bit like the CRV (which we also have).

          Anyway, just put a deposit down on one of those red ones, wife is happy.

  • Adam

    and drive a mazda 3 that everyone else has?

    Civic is well built and made in the UK , anything that leaves the Honda factory is excellent quality and the UK is no exception

    I have driven one of these in a manual i was very impressed!!

    600klms to a tank with 3 people fitting in comfortably

    and the list of features is impressive, i have driven the Mazda 3 and its boring!!

    I agree with most comments though , at 26-27k this car will be hot property

    my two cents anyway

Honda Civic Specs

HYBRID : 1.3L MULTI POINT F/INJ - CONTINUOUS VARIABLE - UNLEADED PETROL - 4D SEDAN
Car Details
Make
HONDA
Model
CIVIC
Variant
HYBRID
Series
MY10
Year
2011
Body Type
4D SEDAN
Seats
5
Engine Specifications
Engine Type
MULTI POINT F/INJ
Engine Size
1.3L
Cylinders
INLINE 4
Max. Torque
170Nm @  2500rpm
Max. Power
85kW @  6000rpm
Pwr:Wgt Ratio
67.2W/kg
Bore & Stroke
73x80mm
Compression Ratio
10.8
Valve Gear
VARIABLE SINGLE OVERHEAD CAM
Drivetrain Specifications
Transmission
CONTINUOUS VARIABLE
Drive Type
FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Final Drive Ratio
4.94
Fuel Specifications
Fuel Type
UNLEADED PETROL
Fuel Tank Capacity
50
Fuel Consumption (Combined)
4.6L / 100km
Weight & Measurement
Kerb Weight
1265
Gross Vehicle Weight
Not Provided
Height
1430mm
Length
4550mm
Width
1750mm
Ground Clearance
110mm
Towing Capacity
Brake:0  Unbrake:0
Steering & Suspension
Steering Type
RACK & PINION - POWER ASSISTED
Turning Circle
10.8
Front Rim Size
6x15
Rear Rim Size
6x15
Front Tyres
195/65 R15
Rear Tyres
195/65 R15
Wheel Base
2700
Front Track
1500
Rear Track
1535
Front Brakes
DISC - VENTILATED
Rear Brakes
DRUM
Standard Features
Comfort
Automatic Air Con / Climate Control
Control & Handling
15 Inch Alloy Wheels, Electronic Brake Force Distribution, Traction Control System, Vehicle Stability Control
Driver
Cruise Control, Leather Steering Wheel, Power Steering
Entertainment
CD with 6 CD Stacker, Radio CD with 4 Speakers
Exterior
Fog Lights - Front, Rear Spoiler
Interior
Power Windows
Safety
Dual Airbag Package, Anti-lock Braking, Head Airbags, Seatbelts - Pre-tensioners Front Seats, Side Front Air Bags
Security
Alarm System/Remote Anti Theft, Central Locking Remote Control, Engine Immobiliser
Optional Features
Exterior
Metallic Paint
Other
Service Interval
12 months /  20,000 kms
Warranty
36 months /  100,000 kms
VIN Plate Location
8-I-11
Country of Origin
JAPAN