There should be a point system rather than the critical or non-critical errors. If you commit a critical error & I stll do not know which are which, you are out even if the error did not endanger anyone’s safety.

Bull!

On another note, the new P Plater laws are being introduced here in Vic in just under a month. License tests have been completely booked out for months. I wonder how many unfit learners have crammed just to try to pass their license test before the July laws come in?

It is illegal (ie, against the law, punishable by a fine) to speed, no matter what.

READ WHAT I SAID.

I REFUSE to be stuck doing anything less than the speed limit, because someone else wants to speed.

If I overtake someone doing even 10 km over, I could cop a $150 fine. 20 km over, a $250 fine.

Clearly, your english comprehension is VERY POOR, or you are a complete dickhead.

We have recent news publications of youths bashing qld police officers on Australia Day.

What we need is a rethink on the approach we take to alot of things in Australian and in particular Queensland society. Do we want our children to blame us for a crap world that we leave. And im not talking pollution, or oil, or any of the crap they spew at you every day. Im talking the small things that get taken from you every now and then.

Think about what has become illegal since before John Howard. Every thing from fireworks, guns, drugs, driving, travel, and family life.

Do we really want to go on like this.

DO WE?

Hope you all have a safe Christmas!

Ive had enough of these new laws, it seems every month they introduce something else to control us.

Im waiting to see the repercussions of this 300 campaign. In VIC and NSW the fine for getting busted with drugs is around $300 and 3 demerit points, which i think is completely fair, this puts it on par with alchohol. if your high then dont drive simple.

But in QLD, its a whole new ball game. Rather than it being a road side saliva test where you suck on something like a dummy, there is a full scrape of the tongue done. To top that off, if you get caught, you face a fine and immediate loss of licence. No questions.

If this is the case, then even if you are not high and over the limit on a mind altering substance, and there are traces of it on the tongue scrape, and that substance is not alchohol, then you lose your licence.

if you drive for a job, and have a family to support, then you lose your job, and then starts the rollercoaster of losing your family, even if they are aware and/or comfortable with your choice of drug and its use.

With it hard enough to find decent paying work, and trasnport throughout SE QLD going to shit, plus the police inability to cover current RBT quotas (after admitting to blowing in the bag themselves to meet those quotas), what is the cost going to be, both on police officers time, civilians rights to non intrusive testing, and the willingness of our governments to collect money. Dont forget, not only do you lose your licence YOU PAY $$$$$$$.

POLICED STATE. This is what we all live in today. Knee Jerk rules by politicians because they dont understand current rules. Speed Cameras, Drug Testing, Extra Police Powers to search vehicles, detain people, enforce extra rules during special periods, and so on.

I live in QLD, i moved here in January of 2007. I drive a 1975 998cc Leyland Mini. In the first 5 months of being in Queensland, i would say i was pulled over by the Police at least once every week. On numerous occassions i have had to go through the inconvenience of them removing all my belongings from my car only to leave them on the road for me to pack away. I have been breath tested roadside maybe 30 times since arriving here. But i dont drink so this always turns up a negative. Am i now to suffer the rath of longer roadside stoppages because i turn a negative drinking result.

QLDrs seem to prefer drunks over drug users. I had to attend court over a small cannabis matter. I got caught with an empty bowl with crumbs in it and they still charged me, even though i had no drugs, was not high on drugs, but this is besides the point. I should never have been charged.

What is the point is, i went to court. No pot, empty bowl and pipe $600 fine, with conviction. No fair but i copped it. Now, this disgusts me. Two kids, so drunk they couldnt remember, smashed 6 cars, $500 fine, plus damages. Another drunk guy walking through Southbank, (popular with families) flashing his privates at the public, 15 complaints made. He only gets a $300 fine and no conviction.

What is this world coming to when, i get busted with an empty bowl and that is seen as a worse crime than a man flashing his privates in a family area.

I drive for work everyday, i am a very experienced driver, i have never caused an accident, and only been in two during 20 years on the road, and pose no threat to anyone in society.

This is the general thought of QLD government that PRO ACTIVE policing is better policing. But there comes a point where policing becomes harrassment, intimidation, and i think QLD Police and the QLD Government are beginning to border on this crime.

In a two party system of Lib/Lab we dont get a choice to defend what is rightfully ours, we have a minority making rules for the many, and without cause or regret, for what they leave their, our children.

Now Judy Spence and Anna Bligh want to bring in new powers for police to charge parents of teenagers caught with alchohol. Our government want to parent our children and make money off us for it at the same time. All this because of fighting between youths during schoolies week. One week of the year the rest of the country migrates to QLD for celebrations. And QLD’rs are supposed to suffer these powers during the other 51 weeks.

I say charge these kids with assault and bring down harsher sentences.

I say look at the laws of the common, and the varying degress of adjustments to that common law, and you have more than enough to charge these people for their offences, and harshly dependant on the degree of the offence. But instead they choose to lessen the sentences, and then cite that the current laws arent effective enough.

Again, for what cause, to leave a children with a society that is locked down. Everyone should read George Orwells 1984, and Aldus Huxleys Brave New World.

Welcome to Queensland.

Since when was policing meant to be ENFORCEMENT. They are not police officers today, they are law enforcement officers. Doing their job of raising revenue for the government.

They care less about the protection of others, and more about the charging, court cases, and fines.

I had to comment on what you’ve written.

You are trying to make a point by saying that you should not have to speed to overtake someone in the slow lane.

First of all – as someone else said – through trafic has right of way. Further I’ve afraid of sharing the road with you – if you feel you want to overtake a slower car, there are a few simple things that should cross your mind before you hit the indicator and pull out.

First – you have to check for other people going faster than you – that means that you DO everything you can to not interrupt their driving speed. Therefore you either wait until there is sufficient room for you to overtake without bothering the guy coming up from behind – speeding or not speeding or you don’t overtake!

Second – once you start overtaking that car, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE overtake it reasonbly fast (yes you can speed here to get past and the go down to the limit again) – I have COUNTLESS examples of IDIOTS that spend the better part of my afternoon overtaking a car that goes 108 kph and they do 110 kph…. that is dangerous and stupid.

85KW of power should be sufficient to overtake any car reasonable fast with the current speed limits… p.s. if it’s a manual try 4th or even 3rd gear…

And please – afterwards keep left (if you do, you will be one in a hundred)

Regards from a VERY frustrated European driver…

And just to comment on this 300 campaign – it’s worthless…rubbish and waste of our money.

I got another speeding ticket just today… I was RACING down a 110kph zone with 129kph – It was nearly midnight and I ONLY had 4 lanes to my self… yes very very dangerous…I can see why I was pulled over… I’m chocked

At the end of the day drug testing drivers is a deterrent approach that should be embraced by society.

I don’t know if I would like to be responsible for “guessing” whether the illegal drugs I am taking will enhance or reduce my driving ability.

Yes – you would just be guessing since they vary in effect, strength and dosage taken by users.

Why take the risk? A simple “none of the illegal drugs in your system whilst driving” is the only truly safe approach.

You say that they ‘make you speed up to pass them’. Well if you’re speeding up to the speed limit to over take someone then where is the problem? I understand – trying to merge into heavy traffic cruising alone at 80 km is a pain in the arse when you’re stuck behind a Mazda 121 with little ol’ grandma plodding along at 60 km trying to work out where the straight road goes.

However, countless times, I have had someone tailgating me – right on my tail so my rear view is consumed entirely by their vehicle – for no other reason but that I’m doing the speed limit.

And sometimes I’m doing the speed limit in the right lane – the fast lane. Why am I in the right lane? Because some truck, old lady, people mover or caravan is holding up he left lane.

Yet for some reason, when I take a responsible, legal over-taking manouvure, I’m honked and high beamed by the person who was about 10 car lengths back when I changed lanes, and quickly catches up to sit on my tail.

I give a call out to these drivers: Why on earth should I be stuck behind grandma doing 20 km under because I might impeded your desire to do 20 km over?

Not only do these drivers make it hard for me to over-take in the first place, but they make it more dangerous. It is not simply the slow drivers to blame. It is not simply the speed of the slow drive that makes it hard to change lanes – but the disparity betweeen lane speends. Grandma at 80 and Robbo at 120 is a difference of 40 km/h.

I drive a 1992 Holden Apollo. A whole 88 kW of power. Not exactly sporty. Trying to go from 80 to 120 in whatever small opportunity I have to change lanes is not an easy task, even after backing off from grandma, pissing off the people in the slow lane, watching people in more powerful cars zoom into the fast lane, and then giving myself a run up in the left lane so I can pull into the right lane before I run up granny’s arse. It’s not a pleasant driving experience. It’s frustrating at least.

At the end of the day – speeding drivers contribute just as much to traffic chaos as slow drivers. Rational self interest leads to everyone, on average, going slower, due to inability to efficiently merge, and an increase in minor accidents such as rear enders.

Speed limits are set for the lowest common denominator.

Highway Entry signs say: “No tractors, animals, pedestrians or cyclists.” not “No tractors, animals, pedestrians, cyclists or cars under 120 kW.”

Roads are their for everyone to use, and although I don’t think speed cameras save many lives, I believe their prescence reduces the persistence of perpetual speeders in traffic, and punishes them for the decreased efficiency of our roads which increases travel times for the majority of people, increasing fuel costs and carbon emissions overall.

We all pay our registration (hopefully), and as such should have equal usage of roads – they’re not solely there for the use of those with high-powered vehicles.

HOT ROD MY ARSE

my car is awesome some help would be appreciated.

Thanks Gordon Roots (ROOTER)