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	<title>Comments on: Citroën C4 Picasso diesel price match</title>
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		<title>By: LouC4</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12688/citroen-c4-picasso-diesel-price-match/comment-page-1/#comment-86345</link>
		<dc:creator>LouC4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had the diesel C4 Picasso for a few weeks now. The only handling issue I have is potholes, even shallow ones. But cornering is very stable. Much better than the new Forester. The seats are comfortable and supportive. Still running in but getting about 9L/100K with school drop offs and a few country trips. I had 2 adults and a booster seat comfortably in the middle row and a 7-yo in a booster in the 3rd row + a couple of suitcases. Couldn&#039;t do that in the old Forester. And the turbo diesel was very happy with freeway speeds. The Captiva&#039;s driving position wasn&#039;t suitable for me (no thigh support).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the diesel C4 Picasso for a few weeks now. The only handling issue I have is potholes, even shallow ones. But cornering is very stable. Much better than the new Forester. The seats are comfortable and supportive. Still running in but getting about 9L/100K with school drop offs and a few country trips. I had 2 adults and a booster seat comfortably in the middle row and a 7-yo in a booster in the 3rd row + a couple of suitcases. Couldn&#8217;t do that in the old Forester. And the turbo diesel was very happy with freeway speeds. The Captiva&#8217;s driving position wasn&#8217;t suitable for me (no thigh support).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, having owned a Picasso for a week, it is true to say they have kid cred. I have a 7 and 11 year old. After their friends flipped the drop down trays, put the in built blinds up and down, moved their individual seat back forth, played with the torch and not to mention the individual aircon control for each rear passenger, we were amused to hear, &#039;this is the coolest car&#039; from the back etc.
As for the grown up response - people with a touch of green attitude understand, this car does less damage and is very safe.
Handling, good not as good as our replaced 307 Wagon but OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, having owned a Picasso for a week, it is true to say they have kid cred. I have a 7 and 11 year old. After their friends flipped the drop down trays, put the in built blinds up and down, moved their individual seat back forth, played with the torch and not to mention the individual aircon control for each rear passenger, we were amused to hear, &#8216;this is the coolest car&#8217; from the back etc.<br />
As for the grown up response &#8211; people with a touch of green attitude understand, this car does less damage and is very safe.<br />
Handling, good not as good as our replaced 307 Wagon but OK.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foggy, I wanted to buy this car due to the fuel efficiency and safety story (have 3 kids), but fear citroen&#039;s poor reliability record (UK reliability surveys) and also suspension (felt all bumps and body roll in corners during test drive). What has your experience been? How about other Citroen Picasso driver&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foggy, I wanted to buy this car due to the fuel efficiency and safety story (have 3 kids), but fear citroen&#8217;s poor reliability record (UK reliability surveys) and also suspension (felt all bumps and body roll in corners during test drive). What has your experience been? How about other Citroen Picasso driver&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Foggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only have one child at the moment Golfschwein, and a car with that many gadgets is soooo coool to a 2.5 year old!

The dog loves it too, because I can fit a full travel crate longitudinally in the back, as well as a pram etc. That way the dog isn&#039;t living on the edge every time I take a corner and the pram goes for a slide.

I do think it&#039;s a cool car, and my wife always has strangers coming up to her in carparks wanting to chat about it! :D ....always a good sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only have one child at the moment Golfschwein, and a car with that many gadgets is soooo coool to a 2.5 year old!</p>
<p>The dog loves it too, because I can fit a full travel crate longitudinally in the back, as well as a pram etc. That way the dog isn&#8217;t living on the edge every time I take a corner and the pram goes for a slide.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s a cool car, and my wife always has strangers coming up to her in carparks wanting to chat about it! :D &#8230;.always a good sign.</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re so right! &quot;less than&quot; signs not allowed! What a shame this site can&#039;t do that to some posters, none of whom are likely to visit this thread, btw! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re so right! &#8220;less than&#8221; signs not allowed! What a shame this site can&#8217;t do that to some posters, none of whom are likely to visit this thread, btw! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foggy, if I was a family guy, I&#039;d get one of these in a shot. Do your kids think the Picasso&#039;s cool or do they tell you to park around the corner as if you had, say, a Nissan Nomad or old Mitsy Express?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foggy, if I was a family guy, I&#8217;d get one of these in a shot. Do your kids think the Picasso&#8217;s cool or do they tell you to park around the corner as if you had, say, a Nissan Nomad or old Mitsy Express?</p>
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		<title>By: Foggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Part 2:&lt;/b&gt; (Note: you can&#039;t use a &quot;less than&quot; sign in your comments!)

On a different note; at under $40k, I think the Picasso represents great competition for those who are more morally conscious and don&#039;t want to patrol the city streets in an Urban Assault Vehicle.

The interior is as spacious as a Prado/Pajero, and will suit the needs of many families who need the space and haven&#039;t deluded themselves into believing that they will go on regular 4WD trips just because they own a 4WD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Part 2:</b> (Note: you can&#8217;t use a &#8220;less than&#8221; sign in your comments!)</p>
<p>On a different note; at under $40k, I think the Picasso represents great competition for those who are more morally conscious and don&#8217;t want to patrol the city streets in an Urban Assault Vehicle.</p>
<p>The interior is as spacious as a Prado/Pajero, and will suit the needs of many families who need the space and haven&#8217;t deluded themselves into believing that they will go on regular 4WD trips just because they own a 4WD.</p>
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		<title>By: Foggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fuel consumption figures quoted in this article are incorrect. The 5.9L/100km is the figure with the EGS gearbox, which is not available here. 

The gearbox on the Australian spec is a standard 6 speed auto with torque convertor, and the official economy figures are actually 7.4L/100km.

Citroen Australia (Ateco) used the lower figure (either fraudulently or accidentally) in their initial marketing, and then quietly changed it a few months later.

In the real world, my 2.0HDi Picasso achieves around 9.5L/100km City Cycle, and about 6L/100km on the highway.

On a different note; at </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fuel consumption figures quoted in this article are incorrect. The 5.9L/100km is the figure with the EGS gearbox, which is not available here. </p>
<p>The gearbox on the Australian spec is a standard 6 speed auto with torque convertor, and the official economy figures are actually 7.4L/100km.</p>
<p>Citroen Australia (Ateco) used the lower figure (either fraudulently or accidentally) in their initial marketing, and then quietly changed it a few months later.</p>
<p>In the real world, my 2.0HDi Picasso achieves around 9.5L/100km City Cycle, and about 6L/100km on the highway.</p>
<p>On a different note; at</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why anyone would even consider a gutless 2.0 petrol baffles me. The diesel is far more response to drive, admittedly i&#039;ve not driven one of these but generally diesels got much more for ooomph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why anyone would even consider a gutless 2.0 petrol baffles me. The diesel is far more response to drive, admittedly i&#8217;ve not driven one of these but generally diesels got much more for ooomph.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^^^meant to say today LPG was one dollar 10 cheaper than diesel^^^^^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^^^meant to say today LPG was one dollar 10 cheaper than diesel^^^^^^</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now we have to push for the price of diesel to be at least as cheap as regular unleaded.......but that will be difficult without the support of Truckee&#039;s and because they get a rebate they no longer care enough to protest or organise blockades like in the past!!!! so private diesel motorists will be on their own with this battle....good luck but today in Sydney I&#039;ve seen a 31 cents per litre difference between petrol and diesel and until that changes I&#039;ll be sticking with LPG that has a 1 dollar 10 difference diesel!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we have to push for the price of diesel to be at least as cheap as regular unleaded&#8230;&#8230;.but that will be difficult without the support of Truckee&#8217;s and because they get a rebate they no longer care enough to protest or organise blockades like in the past!!!! so private diesel motorists will be on their own with this battle&#8230;.good luck but today in Sydney I&#8217;ve seen a 31 cents per litre difference between petrol and diesel and until that changes I&#8217;ll be sticking with LPG that has a 1 dollar 10 difference diesel!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there&#039;s a lot of demand for diesel right now. Mining itself and transportation of more goods to the exploding populations of the mining boom areas are all contributing to demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there&#8217;s a lot of demand for diesel right now. Mining itself and transportation of more goods to the exploding populations of the mining boom areas are all contributing to demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cost of fuel is usually based on demand. The refining cost of diesel should be no more than petrol. To me that means that petrol and diesel should be the same cost.

What I would like to see is the Australian Government reviewing the licencing arrangements they have with the oil companies so that if the oil companies get greedy the Government ups the licencing fees. Oil companies don&#039;t own the land/sea areas they harvest oil they have arrangements with the Governments onn licencing costs. Get greedy up the licence cost, so the oil companies up the cost of oil then up the licencing cost and of course, you can cancel the licence and maybe another oil company would take it over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost of fuel is usually based on demand. The refining cost of diesel should be no more than petrol. To me that means that petrol and diesel should be the same cost.</p>
<p>What I would like to see is the Australian Government reviewing the licencing arrangements they have with the oil companies so that if the oil companies get greedy the Government ups the licencing fees. Oil companies don&#8217;t own the land/sea areas they harvest oil they have arrangements with the Governments onn licencing costs. Get greedy up the licence cost, so the oil companies up the cost of oil then up the licencing cost and of course, you can cancel the licence and maybe another oil company would take it over.</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diesel is also highly refined and about to become more so. Sulphur content is about to come down even further to comply with Euro V emissions targets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diesel is also highly refined and about to become more so. Sulphur content is about to come down even further to comply with Euro V emissions targets.</p>
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		<title>By: trackdaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>trackdaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now we just need the ACCC or K-rudd to take the oil companies to task on why diesel a cheaper fuel to produce costs more than the more highly refined petrol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now we just need the ACCC or K-rudd to take the oil companies to task on why diesel a cheaper fuel to produce costs more than the more highly refined petrol.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good work Citroen. Hopefully others will follow their lead and with a greater variety of models, for those of us that don&#039;t need people movers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work Citroen. Hopefully others will follow their lead and with a greater variety of models, for those of us that don&#8217;t need people movers.</p>
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