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	<title>Comments on: TRD Hilux 4000SL vs. LS3 HSV Maloo R8 Review</title>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-4/#comment-80276</link>
		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I think this is about as much time as we are going to waste deleting idiotic comments. Comments on this article are now turned off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I think this is about as much time as we are going to waste deleting idiotic comments. Comments on this article are now turned off.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-4/#comment-80273</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Golfschwein</description>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-4/#comment-80271</link>
		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reader, one blogger regularly changes name here. &quot;Another Reader&quot; is actually the bloke you&#039;re discussing, who writes the lengthy Toyota bursts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader, one blogger regularly changes name here. &#8220;Another Reader&#8221; is actually the bloke you&#8217;re discussing, who writes the lengthy Toyota bursts.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80270</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Reader: We have established that he does produce some great information, no doubting that. 

I mentioned &quot;Getting the picture?&quot; in a previous post, it has been taken out of proportion. It was supposed draw attention to Mr Toyota making up 25% of the discussion. Nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Reader: We have established that he does produce some great information, no doubting that. </p>
<p>I mentioned &#8220;Getting the picture?&#8221; in a previous post, it has been taken out of proportion. It was supposed draw attention to Mr Toyota making up 25% of the discussion. Nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80266</link>
		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done to Car Advice for cleaning up the comments here, a good third of them. On the occasions I&#039;ve seen mine disappear, it&#039;s generally for good reason and I take the fall.

You&#039;ve only got another third to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done to Car Advice for cleaning up the comments here, a good third of them. On the occasions I&#8217;ve seen mine disappear, it&#8217;s generally for good reason and I take the fall.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve only got another third to go.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80264</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Reader: The individual does make some very valid points. I am commenting from a neutral corner and believe that the approach and manner, reduces these valid points well below the value. 

Simply suggesting (not insisting) that you learn more by listening (like I have done with Mr Toyotas replies) rather then dictating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Reader: The individual does make some very valid points. I am commenting from a neutral corner and believe that the approach and manner, reduces these valid points well below the value. </p>
<p>Simply suggesting (not insisting) that you learn more by listening (like I have done with Mr Toyotas replies) rather then dictating.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TP Says: 
June 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pm 
&quot;....Toyotas highest fleet seller (Corolla) only makes 60%.&quot;
Wrong Paul, Hilux only sells almost 1 in 5 to private. Even you can work out thats more than 80% fleet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TP Says:<br />
June 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pm<br />
&#8220;&#8230;.Toyotas highest fleet seller (Corolla) only makes 60%.&#8221;<br />
Wrong Paul, Hilux only sells almost 1 in 5 to private. Even you can work out thats more than 80% fleet.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80259</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting the picture?</description>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80256</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Toyota you have added 25% of the replies above, do you understand this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Toyota you have added 25% of the replies above, do you understand this?</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80253</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh What A Feeling - you asked above &#039;What more do i need to say?&#039;. Please say nothing, not a thing. Even just for a few days, sit back and read other peoples comments instead of jumping on everything. Can you try this? Just for a few days would be really appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh What A Feeling &#8211; you asked above &#8216;What more do i need to say?&#8217;. Please say nothing, not a thing. Even just for a few days, sit back and read other peoples comments instead of jumping on everything. Can you try this? Just for a few days would be really appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh What A Feeling ...</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80248</link>
		<dc:creator>Oh What A Feeling ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peterd - the Hilux on the road is not a dog. Infact, it is well mannered but obviuosly due to it&#039;s higher &#039;CofG&#039; it is not as well mannered as a regular ute - as expected !!

You don&#039;t have to be a smart cookie to work that out ... do &#039;ya !!

That said, correct me if i am wrong but the Hilux is a very popular work ute that very much spends bulk of it&#039;s time off-road especially when employed by Farmers, Industries amd Mines.

As for regular passenger cars - it&#039;s fact ... most of them spend most of thier time in an urban environment so once again ... where is that 800km suburban comparison between the Prius and BMW !! 

Twist comments to your hearts content but fact remains - doesn&#039;t change the reality of the market even remotely and at the end of the day - not only are Toyota commercials the most reputatable (and setting new sales records) but Toyota outsells Holden and Ford combined not to mention continues to set new records with the previuos records set by itself.

What more do i need to say ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peterd &#8211; the Hilux on the road is not a dog. Infact, it is well mannered but obviuosly due to it&#8217;s higher &#8216;CofG&#8217; it is not as well mannered as a regular ute &#8211; as expected !!</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a smart cookie to work that out &#8230; do &#8216;ya !!</p>
<p>That said, correct me if i am wrong but the Hilux is a very popular work ute that very much spends bulk of it&#8217;s time off-road especially when employed by Farmers, Industries amd Mines.</p>
<p>As for regular passenger cars &#8211; it&#8217;s fact &#8230; most of them spend most of thier time in an urban environment so once again &#8230; where is that 800km suburban comparison between the Prius and BMW !! </p>
<p>Twist comments to your hearts content but fact remains &#8211; doesn&#8217;t change the reality of the market even remotely and at the end of the day &#8211; not only are Toyota commercials the most reputatable (and setting new sales records) but Toyota outsells Holden and Ford combined not to mention continues to set new records with the previuos records set by itself.</p>
<p>What more do i need to say &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peterd</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh what a feeling - on one hand u say 80% of people do urban driving - so Pirus is better - Yet when this test was done - as a on road test not off - or as u say 80% of what people do - u say the comarison is invalid - make your mind up. as the tester says teh Hilux on the road is a dog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh what a feeling &#8211; on one hand u say 80% of people do urban driving &#8211; so Pirus is better &#8211; Yet when this test was done &#8211; as a on road test not off &#8211; or as u say 80% of what people do &#8211; u say the comarison is invalid &#8211; make your mind up. as the tester says teh Hilux on the road is a dog</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80242</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl,

The posts were not deleted for disagreeing, some of these you may notice remain. Posts were removed however for the following reasons as we simply will not tolerate this behaviour on our website.

- Comments or remarks of a profane, offensive or prejudicial nature
- Comments or remarks which are unrelated to the topic, context or theme of the article
- Comments or remarks that are derogatory or that intend to insult or offend other readers, the manufacturer or subject matter in question, CarAdvice or CarAdvice staff

Matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,</p>
<p>The posts were not deleted for disagreeing, some of these you may notice remain. Posts were removed however for the following reasons as we simply will not tolerate this behaviour on our website.</p>
<p>- Comments or remarks of a profane, offensive or prejudicial nature<br />
- Comments or remarks which are unrelated to the topic, context or theme of the article<br />
- Comments or remarks that are derogatory or that intend to insult or offend other readers, the manufacturer or subject matter in question, CarAdvice or CarAdvice staff</p>
<p>Matt.</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80232</link>
		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh so basic cheapy leaf springs on the rear (purely for middle eastern markets, where they are known the overload (taliban troop carriers)) and whimpy front sus not capable of tugginga few stick around. something ain&#039;t right there. You sure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh so basic cheapy leaf springs on the rear (purely for middle eastern markets, where they are known the overload (taliban troop carriers)) and whimpy front sus not capable of tugginga few stick around. something ain&#8217;t right there. You sure?</p>
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		<title>By: ZANDIT</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80229</link>
		<dc:creator>ZANDIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>225kw says &quot;Beliebve me - the Ford Ranger is got nothing on the Hilux as a genuine working vehicle.&quot;
Can you then tell me why the forestry dept in tassie is trading all of their hilux&#039;s in for Ranger&#039;s?...No?....
How about i let you in on a secret! when a hilux is optioned up with a steel bullbar and winch(essential for forestry work)it is over the maximum load limit for the front axle load!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>225kw says &#8220;Beliebve me &#8211; the Ford Ranger is got nothing on the Hilux as a genuine working vehicle.&#8221;<br />
Can you then tell me why the forestry dept in tassie is trading all of their hilux&#8217;s in for Ranger&#8217;s?&#8230;No?&#8230;.<br />
How about i let you in on a secret! when a hilux is optioned up with a steel bullbar and winch(essential for forestry work)it is over the maximum load limit for the front axle load!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80228</link>
		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl me old cobber - quite a few post were deleted on this article, mine included but i was only pointing out something about you-know-who, who continually write yards of drivvle that is mostly incorrect and largelyoff topic. i agree with CA on this occasion. Tis irritanting though.
Off to post my Prius comment on the correct article. lets see if they leave it then!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl me old cobber &#8211; quite a few post were deleted on this article, mine included but i was only pointing out something about you-know-who, who continually write yards of drivvle that is mostly incorrect and largelyoff topic. i agree with CA on this occasion. Tis irritanting though.<br />
Off to post my Prius comment on the correct article. lets see if they leave it then!!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12614/2008-trd-hilux-4000sl-vs-ls3-hsv-maloo-r8-review/comment-page-3/#comment-80223</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOW if you don&#039;t agree with Car Advice you get deleted!!!! pretty poor way to treat you readers guy&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW if you don&#8217;t agree with Car Advice you get deleted!!!! pretty poor way to treat you readers guy&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingo Dog - So the Prius being designed for urban transport as your admission means that those wishing to take a longer journey, as many people do, will have to buy an additional vehicle (which in turn uses up the so-called savings the prius supposedly gains in carbon emmission) just to take a long jourbney.
So what you&#039;re admitting by is the prius is a farce beyond all recourse. 
Well done Dingo Doggy. Ouch!! Eat your little hybrid batteries out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo Dog &#8211; So the Prius being designed for urban transport as your admission means that those wishing to take a longer journey, as many people do, will have to buy an additional vehicle (which in turn uses up the so-called savings the prius supposedly gains in carbon emmission) just to take a long jourbney.<br />
So what you&#8217;re admitting by is the prius is a farce beyond all recourse.<br />
Well done Dingo Doggy. Ouch!! Eat your little hybrid batteries out.</p>
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		<title>By: Toyota Aurion Sells In Greater Numbers To The Private Market Then The Ford Falcon ... Refer To Drive.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyota Aurion Sells In Greater Numbers To The Private Market Then The Ford Falcon ... Refer To Drive.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corolla sales is infact 40% fleet and 60% private as published by DRIVE.com

Unlike Holden and Ford - Toyota infact enjoys a strong fleet and private market which is why thier sales are making records.

Take Toyota commercials for example ... hugely popular across all facets of the market - farmers, tradies, industries, mines and privately !!

Doesn&#039;t get much better then that.

OH WHAT A FEELING ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corolla sales is infact 40% fleet and 60% private as published by DRIVE.com</p>
<p>Unlike Holden and Ford &#8211; Toyota infact enjoys a strong fleet and private market which is why thier sales are making records.</p>
<p>Take Toyota commercials for example &#8230; hugely popular across all facets of the market &#8211; farmers, tradies, industries, mines and privately !!</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t get much better then that.</p>
<p>OH WHAT A FEELING &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford private sales are higher than Toyota? The Falcon sells 80% to Fleets... Toyotas highest fleet seller (Corolla) only makes 60%. I think you are misguided. Not to mention, they could afford more fleets and still sell more to fleets... they have in excess of double the market share of Ford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford private sales are higher than Toyota? The Falcon sells 80% to Fleets&#8230; Toyotas highest fleet seller (Corolla) only makes 60%. I think you are misguided. Not to mention, they could afford more fleets and still sell more to fleets&#8230; they have in excess of double the market share of Ford</p>
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