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		<title>By: ezra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ezra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so stupid.

Go search for M3 prices and factor in OTR costs. No, even if proton died tomorrow you will never pay so little for a M3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so stupid.</p>
<p>Go search for M3 prices and factor in OTR costs. No, even if proton died tomorrow you will never pay so little for a M3.</p>
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		<title>By: jarule</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-2/#comment-110812</link>
		<dc:creator>jarule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test Drive!! Then get back here and give comments!!</description>
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		<title>By: Satoshi</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-99205</link>
		<dc:creator>Satoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see some patriotic malaysian friends here.

If it was a Hyundai, I might understand you saying &#039;This car is not like the old one should give it a try!&#039; as the maker&#039;s reliability has been on par with Japanese makers in some aspects recent days. But definitely, not for a Proton. As far as I experienced No Proton deserves a &#039;try&#039; yet. 

I know Proton is a &#039;proudly Malaysian owned&#039; carmaker, but be fare all of you, look at the market objectively. By global standard any products the maker offers are well out of competiton. Rather than just prasing whatever they make, be tough on your beloved carmaker. Show your disapproval to it if they have done substandard a job, that is the environment it needs to grow properly. Toyota and Honda could be there as the wolrd&#039;s most successful and reliable carmakers today because we Japanese consumers were harsh on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see some patriotic malaysian friends here.</p>
<p>If it was a Hyundai, I might understand you saying &#8216;This car is not like the old one should give it a try!&#8217; as the maker&#8217;s reliability has been on par with Japanese makers in some aspects recent days. But definitely, not for a Proton. As far as I experienced No Proton deserves a &#8216;try&#8217; yet. </p>
<p>I know Proton is a &#8216;proudly Malaysian owned&#8217; carmaker, but be fare all of you, look at the market objectively. By global standard any products the maker offers are well out of competiton. Rather than just prasing whatever they make, be tough on your beloved carmaker. Show your disapproval to it if they have done substandard a job, that is the environment it needs to grow properly. Toyota and Honda could be there as the wolrd&#8217;s most successful and reliable carmakers today because we Japanese consumers were harsh on them.</p>
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		<title>By: londernes</title>
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		<dc:creator>londernes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kalau banyak duit , beli kereta yg mahal, kalo tak cukup duit pakai proton pun ok.
bravo proton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kalau banyak duit , beli kereta yg mahal, kalo tak cukup duit pakai proton pun ok.<br />
bravo proton</p>
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		<title>By: w.</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-91509</link>
		<dc:creator>w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These cars are so crap that they sold 20,000 in the first 3 months in Malaysia and they almost ran out of stock in Australia soon after they were released with more having to be ordered i really cant see how that is so bad. 

Why are people not looking at all the standard features reverse sensors, EBD, electric windows, seat belt pretensioners, ABS breaks, front fog lights, Alloy wheels, dual airbags, and then compaire it to a corolla. The corolla what a borring car and not to mention how many are owned by rental compainies and govt fleets so how can that not effect the resale value of them. 
Yes proton are at the cheaper end of the market cars but as per any new car you have new car warranty this and road side assistance i really believe that most of you who bag out these type of cars have never owned one or can afford to own a new car so you just bag them out. 
Proton cars are a company as you have stated that are here to stay they will continue to grow and will one day end up as large as the Hyundai Brand cars built to a price and to what the markets are demanding ie. great fuel consumption plenty of standard features for not a big dollar figures. Far out what are you negative people going to say when the chinese cars hit our shores next year cheaper cars at under $10,000 drive away prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These cars are so crap that they sold 20,000 in the first 3 months in Malaysia and they almost ran out of stock in Australia soon after they were released with more having to be ordered i really cant see how that is so bad. </p>
<p>Why are people not looking at all the standard features reverse sensors, EBD, electric windows, seat belt pretensioners, ABS breaks, front fog lights, Alloy wheels, dual airbags, and then compaire it to a corolla. The corolla what a borring car and not to mention how many are owned by rental compainies and govt fleets so how can that not effect the resale value of them.<br />
Yes proton are at the cheaper end of the market cars but as per any new car you have new car warranty this and road side assistance i really believe that most of you who bag out these type of cars have never owned one or can afford to own a new car so you just bag them out.<br />
Proton cars are a company as you have stated that are here to stay they will continue to grow and will one day end up as large as the Hyundai Brand cars built to a price and to what the markets are demanding ie. great fuel consumption plenty of standard features for not a big dollar figures. Far out what are you negative people going to say when the chinese cars hit our shores next year cheaper cars at under $10,000 drive away prices.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with u fazri..just let them say what they want to.they aren&#039;t going anyway bro..</description>
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		<title>By: fazri</title>
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		<dc:creator>fazri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton cars are gearing up (2 new models) by the end of 2008, 3 more in 2009; export to 27 countries and proven good reliability and satisfactory in uk car magazines. Proton are among car manufacturers still surviving, other manufacturers sold to others....Opel to GM, Rover to the Chinese, Kia to Hyundai and many others who have been sold! Give Proton a break! Even Holden a re-badge of Vauxhall, at least Proton makes their own engines, in-house R&amp;D and together with Lotus  (which Proton bought in cash!!) and manufacturing their own cars. Thanks Mate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton cars are gearing up (2 new models) by the end of 2008, 3 more in 2009; export to 27 countries and proven good reliability and satisfactory in uk car magazines. Proton are among car manufacturers still surviving, other manufacturers sold to others&#8230;.Opel to GM, Rover to the Chinese, Kia to Hyundai and many others who have been sold! Give Proton a break! Even Holden a re-badge of Vauxhall, at least Proton makes their own engines, in-house R&amp;D and together with Lotus  (which Proton bought in cash!!) and manufacturing their own cars. Thanks Mate!</p>
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		<title>By: Car good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Malaysia car look crap...no quality poor just right..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Malaysia car look crap&#8230;no quality poor just right..</p>
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		<title>By: Alson</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-86166</link>
		<dc:creator>Alson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone driven this new Proton? it is equipped with Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM)or Variable Intake Manifold(VIM) technology. 

The IAFM system solves the infamous torque dip of the barebones Campro engine, and should be alot better to drive around the city now, as you do not need to rev very high to get sufficient torque for acceleration.

“Variable air intake is nothing new to current engine technology. It is present in many engines from other carmakers. 

I wonder if Proton Campro IAFM technology is expanded to other country?. But already done in ASEAN(maybe also in UK) market.

I own a Proton Campro(gen2) 1.6 CPS. Similar to VTEC &amp; VVTI, the performance is satisfactory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone driven this new Proton? it is equipped with Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM)or Variable Intake Manifold(VIM) technology. </p>
<p>The IAFM system solves the infamous torque dip of the barebones Campro engine, and should be alot better to drive around the city now, as you do not need to rev very high to get sufficient torque for acceleration.</p>
<p>“Variable air intake is nothing new to current engine technology. It is present in many engines from other carmakers. </p>
<p>I wonder if Proton Campro IAFM technology is expanded to other country?. But already done in ASEAN(maybe also in UK) market.</p>
<p>I own a Proton Campro(gen2) 1.6 CPS. Similar to VTEC &amp; VVTI, the performance is satisfactory.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my friend has it.it is a nice car.it similar to a toyota vios.maybe better. it is equipped with Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM) to boost its engine performance and to reduce the fuel consumption. it has been named Best Model of the Year for Malaysia in the 2008 Frost &amp; Sullivan ASEAN Automotive Awards. for me, it is a perfect car. most of the people are overshadowed by their experience with previous proton cars. they should test drive this new car first before making any assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my friend has it.it is a nice car.it similar to a toyota vios.maybe better. it is equipped with Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM) to boost its engine performance and to reduce the fuel consumption. it has been named Best Model of the Year for Malaysia in the 2008 Frost &amp; Sullivan ASEAN Automotive Awards. for me, it is a perfect car. most of the people are overshadowed by their experience with previous proton cars. they should test drive this new car first before making any assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Price</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-80926</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the comments above are based on pure speculation.  Has anyone driven this new Proton?  Fair go mate!  Give it a shot, then comment.  I think it is great value for the buck.  Will petrol at sky-high prices, I think the mileage one gets from this Proton is simply earth-friendly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the comments above are based on pure speculation.  Has anyone driven this new Proton?  Fair go mate!  Give it a shot, then comment.  I think it is great value for the buck.  Will petrol at sky-high prices, I think the mileage one gets from this Proton is simply earth-friendly!</p>
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		<title>By: franz chong</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-78155</link>
		<dc:creator>franz chong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of which when was the last time you saw a Proton outside of Malaysia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of which when was the last time you saw a Proton outside of Malaysia</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Boleh</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-75003</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Boleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 22:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alert! 

This crap needs RON95, repeat.. It demands a PREMIUM diet $$$$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alert! </p>
<p>This crap needs RON95, repeat.. It demands a PREMIUM diet $$$$</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-74351</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 08:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton jumbuck  should be renamed a hairy goat  as for the mechanics  and safty  forget it  what aheap of  crap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton jumbuck  should be renamed a hairy goat  as for the mechanics  and safty  forget it  what aheap of  crap!</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12467/2008-proton-persona-sedan-first-steer/comment-page-1/#comment-74349</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 08:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not pretty BUT much better looking than the hideous new elantra!! damn they are uglheee!!!

a friend has a proton gen2 hatch in black, with the factory 17&quot; wheels ( they won it lol ) and i have to say, they love the thing!


T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not pretty BUT much better looking than the hideous new elantra!! damn they are uglheee!!!</p>
<p>a friend has a proton gen2 hatch in black, with the factory 17&#8243; wheels ( they won it lol ) and i have to say, they love the thing!</p>
<p>T</p>
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		<title>By: turbocolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>turbocolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just clicked on an advert from this website: www.newsedan.com.au, Proton dare not even put their badge on their advert - and all of a sudden we get a car advice article on how good this car is?

Come on car advice - don&#039;t sell us out. This was a bit see thru and I&#039;m not impressed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just clicked on an advert from this website: <a href="http://www.newsedan.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsedan.com.au</a>, Proton dare not even put their badge on their advert &#8211; and all of a sudden we get a car advice article on how good this car is?</p>
<p>Come on car advice &#8211; don&#8217;t sell us out. This was a bit see thru and I&#8217;m not impressed</p>
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		<title>By: Al Juraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Juraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s boldly priced. Who would want this thing over a proven Jap that costs the same? If Proton were to establish a name beyond Malaysia, they need to come up with a dramatic change quickly. When Korean cars came to be known, they were poorly made and goofily designed. Despite having drastically improved over the years, this first impression is probably a scar that will never vanish from the eyes of some buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s boldly priced. Who would want this thing over a proven Jap that costs the same? If Proton were to establish a name beyond Malaysia, they need to come up with a dramatic change quickly. When Korean cars came to be known, they were poorly made and goofily designed. Despite having drastically improved over the years, this first impression is probably a scar that will never vanish from the eyes of some buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Iamthestig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iamthestig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL...

So first we get a very cushy review of the car, now we see the banner adverts.  

You are losing credibility by the day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;</p>
<p>So first we get a very cushy review of the car, now we see the banner adverts.  </p>
<p>You are losing credibility by the day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone in Australia buy Proton cars? Resale values must be awful, provided you can find a buyer. What happens when this car company goes broke? Any resale value is totally gone.

The Top Gear show in UK blew up a Proton car with a bomb to say how bad it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone in Australia buy Proton cars? Resale values must be awful, provided you can find a buyer. What happens when this car company goes broke? Any resale value is totally gone.</p>
<p>The Top Gear show in UK blew up a Proton car with a bomb to say how bad it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 08:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PoisonEagle, the Saga will be here early 2009.</description>
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