Toyota enters Aussie Super Series
1 May, 2008
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Toyota Australia has announced it will compete in the Aussie Racing Cars Super Series with the TRD Aurion, making it the first manufacturer to directly support the series.
The TRD Aurion entry will be far from standard, using a scaled-down body shell of the new TRD Aurion and a 1.2-litre engine - and no that’s not a typo.
“The TRD Aurion’s body shell is really more of a caricature than a scaled-down version of the real car. We are in the final stages of producing the initial test moulds now so the finished product will be on the track later this year.”
The series is a support category for the V8 Supercar Championship and races at some of Australia’s biggest events, including the Australian Formula One Grand Prix and at Indy on the Gold Coast.
Every car in the field runs a spec mechanical package and chassis that is fitted with moulded body shells representing the relevant make and model of the car.
Weighing just 450kg, the cars are powered by a 1.2-litre, twin-cam, four-valve Yamaha engine, producing 91kW at 11,5000rpm and sprint from 0-100km/h in just 4.5 seconds.
Although the series has been based around Ford and Holden-derived cars, Aussie Racing Cars director Phil Ward said he does not see the category as a red versus blue battle and hopes Toyota’s involvement will encourage other manufacturers to get involved.
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May 1st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Uncharted waters here for Toyota, maybe we will get some results better then Formula 1 where Toyota has been a miserable joke. Still they have had limited success in Nascar or whatever it is in US. So maybe they can step up a smidgeon and actually do something positive and win races.
Serious question…..how many races has Toyota done in F1 overall and have the ever placed in top three??????? Could do with a laugh
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May 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
The Aussie Racers is a silouhette series with moulded bodies which resemble full size cars mounted on to a spaceframe chassis and powered by Yamaha engines [Not Toyota] I don’t think that really qualifies as Factory Backed sponsorship
However; given the power to weight ratio of these things and their overall size a TRD Aurion would have no chance of out running or out handling its smaller scale counterpart
If only the real TRD looked like the CGI image above
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May 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Good point Nutter. It does not like like CGI - oh major letdown! Oh well with an ageing population looks like the whitegoods might find a few followers! Dam if only looked as hot as CGI…..
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May 1st, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Every single time I see or think of Toyota the immediate thought that comes to my head is:
“Bad to the bone…” the song played whilst I was in USA.
Shame CGI cannot match actually look - might have to get some real style of MR2 back around 1993 as that shytes all over current wannabe offerings Toyota has (LOL or claims)
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May 1st, 2008 at 6:08 pm
If you could actually buy & road register a Aussie Racer TRD Aurion you would probably have a lot more street-cred than someone who bought a full size one… people just love these pocket rockets
Better fuel economy; better performance; more responsive better build quality; better sound; and less than half the price
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May 1st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
The worlds largest car maker racing toy cars instead of there real ones.What a joke
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May 1st, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Wheelnut you are aware Yamaha design many Toyota engines? Actually I doubt you do, its not Ford related so your clueless
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May 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Phil - mate. Come on! They race in Formula One and try hard as and well come up always empty handed. Read review on emptyness of winning in Formula One, think it was in Motor (or Wheels) magazine some month or so ago……I think we should have the Aussie stig drive around in Toyota suit playing a Pretenders song or six! Its like getting drunk on Clayton’s….the drink your having when your not having a drink. But then again…..with some ramblings on here, well you know who I mean. LOL.
Cheers
NM
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May 1st, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Baby Aurions in the Aussie Racing Cars. I only hope Toyota aren’t going to pour tones of money into it and flood the field with them.
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Here’s your rear wheel drive Aurion!
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm
F1 vs Supercars… Hmmm yes Toyota are the ones who are new to motorsport here
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
A third silhouette could spice up the series. No bad thing. I say silhouette loosely, as they’re all caricatures.
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Aw TP thats not nice. Hey its no problem getting engines from other suppliers, pretty much all manufacturers do it. Even BMW used the toyota 1.6 diesel in the mini for a while, pity its been replaced by a superior PSA engine.
Nissan use Renault diesels’
Ford use PAS diesels,
Mitsubishi use VW diesels,
GM use Fiat diesels,
Ssanyong use old merc engines,
No problems
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
TP - Firstly I thought that having been on here for as long as you have you would know - out of Ford and Holden I generally prefer Holdens [particularly the older ones]
Secondly I do know that Yamaha design a number of Toyotas engines - didn’t they design the corolla engine.. the same engine Lotus use in the Exige; and have managed to almost double the power of the corolla by bolting on a supercharger - that works? Maybe Toyota should ask Yamaha to work on the TRD.
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Lotus would also be able to make the TRD and the Corolla drive and handle better too
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Yea NM I will give them a break in F1.I feel sorry for poor Toyota only got buckets of money and Huge corporate clout and still can’t win.I guess Toyota will just have to wait until F1 Regulate there engines to Hybred Petrol electric then toyota will be in the game.And I do agree this is true Clayton’s motor racing from Toyota(We should expect better support for motor racing here in Oz from Toyota the worlds biggest car maker).This is poor form as far as i see it.
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:49 pm
If F1 did change there engines to hybred,Toyota would have good chance “Because The Game Would Have Changed”..HA..HA..HA
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:53 pm
no other manufacture has pressents in motorsport like toyota. but… perhaps if they focused on a few and get good at them first. then dabbled int oeverything else.
just wish the v8 supercar BS would open up to all manufactures again.. or at least v8’s
go toyota.. give em hell in ur wee lill car
cookie
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May 1st, 2008 at 7:54 pm
So much Toyota hate.
I know Toyota aren’t particularly exciting cars, in fact, they are quite the opposite, but they sell well and are quite successful. Why change the formula?
And the comment that Toyota can’t even win at F1, c’mon really, it takes years to build up a team and knowledge base worthy of competing at the top level in F1. Toyota will win a race in the not too distant future, the real disappointment at present is Honda, those cars are complete shit.
In the US, Toyota has won in all the stock cars series: Craftmen Trucks, Busch Series and also the Sprint Cup. And they place in the top 10 pretty regularly.
I would love to see an Aurion V8 Supercar, just to piss off the Ford vs Holden bogans. Hell, tell Tony Cochrane that it might bring the (rather large) cardigan demographic into the audience and he will sell his soul (if he has any left) to get them into the field.
And anyway, this Aussie Racing Car series body will have equal chance of winning as any Ford, Holden or Austin body. Badge means nothing in the Aussie series.
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Toyota are actually doing reasonably well this year so far.
Williams Toyota are 4th in the constructors champs afer spain and Toyota are 5th. Not bad results really. Only a mtter of time they’ll be up with Ferarri
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Maybe (not)….or maybe wishful thinking like surfing madly at Torquay at UK! I here that plenty of great beaches there (not).
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Toyota did have a chance to enter V8 super cars,but V8 super car organisers wanted Toyota to support 3 teams,Toyota only wanted to support 1 so they didn’t enter.A field of 14 Commodores 13 Falcons and 2 Aurions is not an ideal situation.Thats what i mean when i say this is poor form.With all the money there got why can’t they put some back in to proper motor sport
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
For the critics of Toyota Motorsport - lets get a few facts straight because todate, 2008 has been a good year for the group.
First-off … yes, i agree F1 has been a challenge for Toyota with much work to be done but regardless - the talent that is developed from participating in the pinnacle of automotive engineering is arguably greater then what can be gained in the participation of any other motorsport.
Toyota’s F1 team has yielded better results so far this year then last with the team looking stronger and more confident thanks to alot of ongoing and dedicated development. Todate, they are 5th from 11 manufactuers but i expect them finish about 4th by year end.
Now .. lets talk thier success in NASCAR so far this season because Toyota is kicking some serious ar*e and good on ‘em.
Of the 3 series - Sprint (tier 1), Nationwide (tier 2) and Craftsman Trucks - a total of 24 races have been completed todate this season and of the 4 competing manufactuers - Toyota, Dodge, Chevy & Ford - Toyota Motorsport has won 12 (50%) of them alone and that is not including the numerous 2nds and 3rds that they have enjoyed aswell. Best part of it all - the ‘BIG T’ is embarassing the American Manufactuers at thier own game on thier own soil …. oooch !!
I’ll break down Toyota’s wins in the 3 different series so far :
Sprint Series - 3 wins from 9
Nationwide - 6 wins from 10
Craftsman Trucks - 3 wins from 5
That said - it is worth mentioning that last weekend alone in Talledega, Toyota won the Nationwide Series making it 4 consecative wins for Toyota in that particular event and then back that up the next day by coming 1st, 3rd and 5th in the Sprint Series …. oooch !!
What a weekend for Toyota.
And just to add more, lets not forget that Toyota has won the manufactuers titles in the Australian Rally Championships (ARC)for the past 2 years and then came 1st in Rd1 for the start of the 2008 season with the 2nd round held in Canberra - Rally Of Canberra - on May 10 & 11th.
So … yes, Toyota still has alot of work to do in F1 but other then that - NASCAR so far this year has been great with the BIG T kicking American pride while our own TRD Team in Australia is doing a great job themselves.
cheers
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Lets put light clearly on the matter of F1. Big hoopla, big budget and big PR spoken from Toyota…..and a flop. Nobody ever remembers who finished second behind Cathy Freeman when raced at 400metres at 2000 Sydney Olympics. This is cause there is “no” prize for second!
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Maximus - why the ribbing about Torquay. Its the Bussleton of the UK southwest, full of old folks living their last days. If you want better beaches head to the South Hams 30k’s along the coast or more southwest to north cornwall in Fistrals surf mecca.
Also “BTC Racing has dropped its Lexus IS200s in favour of a pair of ex-works SEAT Toledos for the remainder of the 2008 HiQ British Touring Car Championship.
The team has opted to make the switch after a series of niggles plagued the IS200s at the opening two meetings of the season”
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Phil - that is exactly what Toyota is doing … putting money back into Motorsport : F1, NASCAR (Sprint, Nationwide & Craftsman Truck Series) and other forms such as ARC, Drag Racing (America & Australia) not to mention a range of other events throughout the world.
What you need to do is educate yourself alot more before critising Toyota Motorsport. Visit the official ‘TRD Australia’ website and bring yourself up to date with exactly what they are competing-in.
Take last months (April)schedule alone for instance :
2 x F1 meetings
1 x Craftsman Truck
4 x Nationwide Series
3 x Sprint Series
1 X ARC
and … Targa Tasmania !!
This weekend coming up - Nationwide and Sprint Series
Next weekend - F1, Nationwide & Sprint Series and Australian Rally Championships (ARC).
For the remainder of the month after that - F1, Craftsman Trucks, Sprint and Nationwide Series.
Best part of it all … that’s only what i am interested in !!
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Smashingly good point Phil…..dare say Toyota really only care on business perspective, bean counters sussing out abacus and forget the avid driver and supporting grass roots of racing, etc. With an ageing world population is it any wonder that….People buy them as bland as watching paint dry or grass grow. As people buy them its easier for beancounters to forget enthiusiasts….Oh what a feeling stuff pouring back into car racing….Toyota!
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pm
typo….Oh what a feeling stuff pouring $$$ back into car racing
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Maximus - like said about F1 … work to be done.
But, you are not so keen to discuss thier success in NASCAR. Of the 4 competing teams, Toyota alone has won exactly 50% of the races finished this year so far … oooch !!
What about ARC … 2006 and 2007 manufactuers titles.
Craftsman Trucks … 2005 & 2006 manufactuers titles and not surprisingly probably again in 2008.
That said - Toyota will most likely be challenging the title in the Sprint and Nationwide Series (NASCAR)while i believe they have a good chance of finishing 4th in F1 for 2008.
Early days to be making claims i agree, but if Toyota can show consistancy for the rest of the 2008 season then they are real possibilities.
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:51 pm
This will wipe the floor given how good Toyota are at everything. Eh Bob!!!
OH WHAT A FEELING
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:53 pm
The silence on who finished second behind Cathy Freeman 2000 Sydney Olympics is deafening
Just like Toyota moving 99% profits on abacus to positive side and on expenditure (negative side) moving 1% across for racing. Talk about out of kilter scales! Too busy as designing more blander cars to suit worldwide ageing population.
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May 1st, 2008 at 8:57 pm
**************PRIMO*******************
WOW a whole out of kilter scales!
Hey love the address! BIG BROTHER? Who lives there Gretel Kileen or ?????? Ha Ha Ha Ha. Like a eye in pyramid symbol…..looking, watching and observing…..ITS OUCH (as opposed to other spelling)
Cheers
NM
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Maximus … with an aging population, maybe you should be concerned about Holden and Ford.
Phil … here is a point for you to have a think about.
Investing into motorsport costs $$$ and after all the years of Holden and Ford spending up in Australia to promote thier exsistance in local motorracing … what exactly has it done for not only the sales of Commodores and Falcons but thier fleet in todays market. Judging by continuing declines … very little or nothing.
So, why would Toyota Australia bother spending considerable dollars in local motorsport to probably achieve as little as what Holden and Ford so today when they can invest into more globally recognised sports and probably achieve much more recognition in-return.
Correct me if i am wrong but i vividly recall Ford Aust passing a statement about 9mths ago commenting that if sales of the Falcon (and Ford Oz in general) do not improve over the next couple of years then they will probably have to reconsider ongoing participation in V8 Supercars… mmm !!
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Phill is totally right.
a few years back toyota (and mitsubishi) engaged in talks with V8 supercars. suercars made it clear that they required a firm commitment of a minimal amount of years and vehicle in order to ensure they didnt field 2 cars and pile all their riches in to them and cause an un fair advantage to the other teams.
the last official word on toyota came from V8 supercars and it said “as of yet, toyota has not submitted a proposal for entry into the sport”
so all you cardigan pullers get over you idea of toyota not being allowed in. V8 supercars have approached toyota but toyota obviously dont want to.
and those that think toyota entering aussie racing cars is going to be good for the category, think again.
this sport currently has no manufacturer backed teams.
so what do you think toyota is going to do?
they will more than likely pump a tonne of $$$ in to 1 or 2 cars and wipe the competition of privateers away
any sucess in this category for toyota wont be due to its engineering capabilities. all the cars are made in the one shed and deliverd to each team in what ever shell they choose.
no doubt toyota will find some great driver and pay him a packet to keep him there.
their large injection of cash into the category will ruin the sport no doubt about it.
considering the field is pretty much made up entirely of privateers, how will they compete?
it will be like sending a rich computer genius into a kindergarden and saying gee isnt he great.
dont get me wrong, i think another shell in this series is a great idea, but the cash injection behind the shell coming from toyota will ruin it
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Maximus - Toyota’s corporate discipline is what has made them the multi-billion dollar a year success story while complete incompetance has made Ford, GM and Crysler multi-billion dollar a year flunks …. mmm !!
Ask yourself this … who has got lots-n-lots of money and who hasn’t.
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Dont mean to sound American (sorry), but some massive home runs hit like outta here! Geepers that was some hit Andrew M!
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Andrew M….I think you will find that Toyota’s backbone ethos is appeal to a changing world population as its ageing. Maximum $ and stuff motorsport and keep the scales out of balance! Smart….and very ignorant! And very tactical as cannot have smashing stunning svelte cars in stable. Like I said earlier….in my opinion the MR2 being around the 1993 model is testament to my line of thinking to appeal less and bore more = OTHERWISE WHERE IS A TOYOTA MORE STUNNING THEN THIS MR2 RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW?
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Golf
there art already 4 silhouettes in the series.
and no, it will more than likely ruin the series, not spice it up. its not the extra shell that causes the issue here, its the massive cash injection that toyota could and most likely will inject into the series.
TP,
you know ford have been in F1 too dont you? surely you arent that silly to imply otherwise.
the way people are talking about this series, is like they have never heard of it let alone seen it before.
this is an entertaining race and bugger all rivalry between brands exist because they are made in the one workshop regardless of the shell.
commercial teams dont exist in this sport and toyotas involvement will ruin it.
its exactly the same as if toyota was to go to a gokart track, pick the fastest kid, and give him a tonne of money to call his kart a toyota.
that kid would have a budget that none of the other backyard racers could match.
oh and the kart would run a 100 yamaha motor too
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Andrew - you are partially WRONG because only ealier this year the new Holden boss (name … ???) passed comment that he would be interested in allowing the sport to be opend up to other competitors.
Regarding cash - EACTLY … Toyota and/or Nissan will probably kill the sport of Holden and Ford so thank yourself lucky stripes that the ‘BIG T’ has investments elsewhere and not interetsed in V8 Supercars at this stage.
Personally - i believe you won’t get interest from Toyota but more likely from Nissan who has already stated that they might be interested in entering the new GTR at some stage.
And if success doesn’t come from Toyota because of thier abilities then you have said the magical word … success for Holden and Ford has got nothing to do with thier abilities either then but the teams who engineer the cars.
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm
NM,
i feel very strongly about bullies (ie toyota) marching into unprotected motorsport arenas.
private racers deserve protection.
it will ruin the roots of motorsport.
pick on a sport your own size toyota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Dingo,
perhaps you should learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd
nissan wont get into the category. why? AWD!!!!!
supercars ensures parity. and like in every category, it comes down to the team engineering the vehicles.
and that puts me onto your much gloated Nascar results.
didnt toyota just give a bucket load of money to an already established and proven team to use their shells, rather than building the team themselves???
and how am i partially wrong?
if i am partially wrong, then show me where it partially says toyota isnt allowed to compete?
in a nut shell,
toyota wanted to field 1 or 2 cars and pump the same amount of money into 1 team as ford and holden spread across 7 teams.
V8’s werent so stupid to allow it so toyota walked away with the attitude that if they cant operate with a greater advantage then they dont want to know about it
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Maximus - your theory is completely WRONG. Just acknolwedge the big events they compete within today. Proves how WRONG your ethos theory is.
Andrew - judging by your own theory - how is that any different with Holden, Ford or any other manufactuer for that reason… simple - IT’S NOT !!
Get over it, you people crtisied Toyota for it’s lack of performance cars and Motorsport and now that Toyota has been making advancements, the same crowd then starts making up excuses.
FACT IS - you people are starting to relise the potential Toyota has and in Australia alone if they really wanted too but won’t because it makes no corprate sense - they could wipe Holden and Ford all over the floor. If Nissan had the choice to stay in the event they probably would have themselves but NO … have a big cry and get ‘em banned.
That is the losers way out of it and if Toyota can maintain it’s edge in NASCAR - i bet Chevy and Ford will start doing the same themselves soon enough.
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Dingo,
once again i say,
learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd
do you not get that the aussie racing car series is a bunch of private racers? this will ruin what is for some a cheap way to get into motor racing
how is it any different to any other manufacturer?
well firstly give me an example where be it ford or holden or whoever has marchedinto the juinor ranks of racing and given some young star an advantage over another, and then we will talk about it.
im beginning to think you have never heard of the aussie racers the way you think this sort of injection is acceptable.
this is not a sport where factory backing hangs out. GET IT!!!!
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:36 pm
the worst thing holden tried was entering the race preped 427 monaros into a production race.
and guess what?
they ruined it!!!!!
take an interest in the whole of motorsport, not just the toyota side of it
learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Andrew - Joe Gibbs Racing was a long term Chevy Team but in recent years had been disheartened towards GM as they were playing second fiddle to Hendricks Motorsport as that’s were GM was investing greater resources.
Joe Gibbs didn’t want to play second fiddle as he is in the game to win. Toyota approached JGR with a package and guaranteed ongoing support afterwards so nervously took the deal but has sense been delighted with the instant sucess that JGR / TRD USA have been able to achieve.
The chassis and engines are Toyota designed and engineered at a specifically established workshop in the States that supports all of thier NASCAR dealings but are tuned and maintained by the teams - Joe Gibbs Racings in this instance as an example - but backed with technical support and ongoing development by TRD USA that JGR has been delighted with because all of a sudden - he has gone from being a second fiddle with Chevy to one of NASCARS most competitive and leading teams today.
I’ll give an example that only happened about 6 weeks ago -
JGR lost a race because they had fuel pickup issues and a powersteering fault that ended their competive edge during a particular meeting but come Monday morning - TRD USA Technical Staff were waiting at Joe Gibbs Racing to offer assitance in rectifying problem. Response inreturn from Joe - that’s exactly the support i was looking for when i signed up with Toyota.
Fact is Andrew … JGR and Toyota would not have been as successful as what they are today if it wasn’t for the expertise of one-another and it takes a good team, a good car and a good driver to win races and no team/manufactuer in any motorsport event is any different.
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Andrew - support motorsport then my brand … makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.
Wouldn’t it correct for me to suggest that i support Toyota Motorsport because i support the brand, Toyota … mmm !!!
And another - maybe i take interest in the sport because i take interet in Toyota.
Seriuosly dude - have a think about what you are saying because it is wacky non-sense and that’s not being mean but just truthful.
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May 1st, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Andrew - i love … you say that Toyota are bullies if they walking into unprotected motorsport. Without you even knowing, you just said that Holden and Ford cannot compete against Toyota.
How great is that !!
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:08 pm
ANDREW M says….”learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd”
NM response….man you just keep hitting home runs as this comment cuts to core.
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Toyota racing little pretend Aurions around a go cart track with full factory backing. LOL.
Formula one is the epitome of automotive racing whereas Nascar,Craftmans trucks well that’s like the upsized double burger with cheese of automotive racing development. Don’t they run Ford and Chev components in just about everything competing anyway?
Amazing how well Honda has done in formula one compared to Toyota considering Toyota’s resources but then again one could argue that Honda has always had a technically superior product compared to what Toyota offers and this is reflected in their greater racing success.
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Gotta be able to hit the ball before making home runs.
Oh what a feeling …
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
I embrace the idea of Toyota entering V8 Supercars. If it’s anything like their F1 effort, all the cash in the world wont stop them from losing- at the end of the day who would drive for them? Rick Bates? HAHAHA
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Honda has no success against Toyota today … do they !!
Toyota NASCAR Teams runs Toyota engines, chassis’s and components - that’s why they are Toyota’s - and winning …. oooch !!
F1 is the pinnacle and that’s why GM and Ford are not there because they are not worthy.
Oh What A Feeling …
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Toyota don’t get it. The pretend Fords and Holdens don’t have factory backing because it is pretends. Typical of Toyota trying to get spin for the Aurion by racing a rear wheel drive go cart decorated with an Aurion glass shell.LOL.
The old cardigan wearing farts will never know as long as no shots are taken of someone standing next to an Aurion go cart.LOL.
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
************************PRIMO*****************************
Rather hit a homer then play with thy balls…oouch!
Learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd. Like supporting company profits ahead of massive motorsport involvement….thats just inhumane and wrong!
Cheers
NM
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Eagle - even better … when Toyota pulls out an open cheque, it’ll be more interesting to see how loyal the Holden and Ford teams are. Maybe one or two but i bet alot will jump ship before pen touches paper.
Oh What A Feeling …
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Only in America, around and around and around……all with ford 9 inch diffs LOL.
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Too right Realcars. LOL SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE!
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Massive motorsport involvement … is that why the biggest event Ford, Chevy and Dodge compete in is the ’so-called’ Double-burger NASCAR series therefore leave F1 to the big boys.
What’s it like chasing ‘ya tail … you dizzy yet!!
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Yeah Toyota small blocks, Toyota FMX /turbo 400,Toyota 9 inch /positraction. LOL
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Toyota Motorsport wins again … for the rest of ‘ya - no prizes for second best.
Keep chasing ‘ya tails - you’ll relise it’s your own after a while … maybe !!
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I heard a rumor that Toyota is going to start a Pedal car series using 1/5 scale perspex Camry bodies. LOL.
….with full factory backing Ha Ha Ha Ha
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:33 pm
LOL Realcars!
And hasnt Toyota been outspoken over the years with its “flop” Formula One attempts. It was great reading reading about the disappointments of Toyota in F1 in Motor (or Wheels mag) some 1month ago! When Ford raced or supplied Cosworth engines it was done with aplumb and mouth shut and ego in check unlike some wannabe cardigan wearers!
OUCH (as opposed to ooch)
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Hmmm, all these people bagging Toyota for sticking their name on a model racing car. Just one question for all the Toyota F1 bashers ——– how far up in the Formula One points are Ford or GM, or shouldn’t I ask?
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:40 pm
ANDREW C….do you mean R&D and investing that same culture what made success in car sales amounts to squat diddley from Toyota in F1!
Massive sales, massive profit, minimal motorsport involvement and minimal success where it has bragged and gloated on what will occur at F1! If they never gloated and bragged there would be no discussion here! Ford and GM not there is irrelevant as they never had foot and mouth of Toyota!
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:43 pm
I agree with Andrew on this, Toyota shouldnt be allowed to throw limitless money into a race full of less financed privateers, there will need to be a funding limit on these cars as well as strict oversee on brand racers. Such things will kill the amateur/privateer ranks.
For those who think large global car manufacturer corporations are truly passionate about motorsport, think again they are there for one thing, promotion to generate more sales and to create a PR out of it, so people can relate a winning car is a winning brand. Just take it deeper and look at all the sponsors on the car, I doubt Jim Beam can contribute anything mechanically to V8 Supercar, they pay a minor fee in hopes that awareness pays off.
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:46 pm
U hit the nail on the head NM. Just sick of the Toyota spin machine and the cult like devotees. I’ve owned late model Toyotas and had to have them repaired like anything else.
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Yeah right Realcars.
Iam thinking of ditching the BF Falcon LPG and getting a 1993 MR2 as seen a red one and still full on hot (could never get head around why stopped making that model). As currently the lineup appeals to an ageing population and is devoid of svelte pizazz, so I had to go back to this model to have class and svelte style. Does this car come with airbags and ABS - does anyone know (remember)?
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May 1st, 2008 at 10:58 pm
There has been bits of ford under the commodore v8 supercar as well.
NASCAR is great to watch once you get into the tech side of setups and tactics, Ask Marcos Ambrose 4th fastest for the weekend under lights this weekend.
Lets all be cars lovers first and one eyed second
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May 1st, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Doubt the bags but think I have seen abs sticker on later reiterations. Sounds like all this Toyota talk has induced a mid life crisis i.e red sports car. Yes the Toyota Ferrari although driving characterics got a pounding by the critics at the time if my memory is correct.
Have had similar delusions about a Nissan 350z! LOL.
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May 1st, 2008 at 11:07 pm
NM,
Drivers Airbags, but ABS was an option, if your lucky it should have it, but from what I heard many of the imports came with ABS option
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May 1st, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Realcars,
I think the first revision of the SW20 mr2 had pounding over its snap oversteer, the next revision fixed that from what i recall
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May 1st, 2008 at 11:11 pm
oh forgot to mention, buy the latter revisions of that model and the ABS became standard and + passenger airbag
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May 1st, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Dam you guys are right as googled. Shame I gotta step back so far for non-whitegoods svelte stylish hot lookers, dam you Toyota!
GEEPERS….anti spam word TOYOTA. Crikey!
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May 1st, 2008 at 11:16 pm
The latter the better then.Nice looking sports car for small ask. Some good buys in grey imports. Have heard that the odos aren’t that credible though.
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May 1st, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Sounds like u are being sucked into some sort of Toyota vortex NM. All I can suggest is that u revist the FG blog and stare at those fg turbo pics a while otherwise u might end up jibber jabbering just like Dingo and TP!!! lol.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:33 am
If Toyota want to enter in the V8 Supercars I say welcome it would be good to see another manufacturer entering.
But lets hope Toyota TRD don’t steal parts from FORD as they did in NASCAR.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 7:22 am
Fruitless exercise going in that vortex as spat out quick….but man the MR2 was hot as and more cool as some 15yrs old and looks seriously hot as still and nothing from Toyota currently out looks it! Cant work out why they had that hot as look and then just walk away from it…. must be tad hard to nail reliability and make compared to sedate brigade of today! Gotta be they appeal to people more as proven fact the world is an ageing population…otherwise they would have stunning as hot cars to sell! So if I want style (albeit conservative) from Toyota……gotta look at Yaris or Aurion. Like the Aurion is nice as on one I seen - but it wont age stunning as MR2 1993 model!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 7:26 am
Thanks Realcars…..always love that car you mention. Just this 1993 MR2 recently seen was like MWAH hot as and red. Stunner fully the turbo and cant wait to sample in the metal and draw conclusion on driving it!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 am
Sparky - Toyota has stolen no Ford parts unless they had no choice because of mandatory regulations that all teams have to abide by for what ever reason.
Toyota NASCAR’s are Toyota designed and engineered chassis’s, engines and components and what a floGging against Dodge, Chevy and Ford the ‘BIG T’ is dishing out at the moment …. OOOCH !!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:51 am
Realcars … is that jibber jabber or just raw, blunt truth that you struggle to deal with.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:59 am
Gotta Google Pluto that Realcars as the duet has become a threesome!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 9:00 am
Lets just hope it is not in closet the threesome….drop that thought as yuk!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 am
Im just wondering all this crap about toyota’s engineering abitity massive amounts of money, kickin ass here, kickin arse there….what championship trophys sit on toyota’s mantle??? i can recall they were good with the gt4 celica years ago what else??? Toyota should stick to make white good cars thats what there the best at
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May 2nd, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Agree NM, MR2, look the part and still causing head turns (kept mint) whereever, I was thinking of buying one a few years back but my eyes were stolen over the Skyline R34, AlThough, now im content with the Aurion, im looking to get a performance car end of this year (Something thats not daddy-racer ala large family cars with grunt), Possibly STI?Evo?or back to imports…. or go one up on an FG F6 but with new cars I tend to wait a few months to make sure the car that comes out isnt problem prone ( immediate recalls etc)
As all I can say for Toyota, theyve dominated the average car market now they should be attacking the performance and style market, and start producing exciting cars!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Cleo - World Rally Championship (WRC) , Australian Rally Championship (ARC) and Craftsman Truck Series to name 3 alone. By year end, a strong possibility of a Nationwide and/or Sprint Series (NASCAR) trophy and of course more Craftsman Truck and ARC trophies.
Watch this space …
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May 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Supporter Of Toyota Motorsport
looking at the WRC web site the Manufatures championship went to
2008 - Ford Winning
2007 - Ford Won
2006 - Ford Won
2005 - Citroen Won
So its been a while !!!!!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 2:01 pm
The appeal and hot as designs for me go back to the svelte stylish hot MR2 1993 model. None of the current offerings appeals remotely close to the style from this MR2 from 15yrs ago. My conclusion clearly is…..why appeal to few people when most people are part of an ageing population as this is a fact. GOTTA LOVE TOYOTA… just a business and not care for enthusiasts and rather do sedate cars!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Joober….when as Iam waiting. Will this occur when America sends astronauts to Mars (i.e. a long way off)! Til then if you want real style…gotta step back in time machine to locate it. I agree the Aurion is nice. Lined up against a Mazda 6 or Mondeo and it is average looking. I just cant see exciting cars making a reappearance as not selling in volume and Toyota clearly forget the diehard motoring enthusiasts with the use always of an abacus but a boring management.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
typo……….by a boring management.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pm
COP THIS ALL YOU TOYOTA HATERS,APRIL SALES IN OZ.HI-LUX No1(3816).COROLLA No2(3722). COMMODORE No3(3325)OH WHAT A FEELING!!!!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Maximus - depends how you classify enthusiasts - 4×4 enthusiasts, luxury/prestiage enthusiasts, motorsport enthusiasts, performance exthusiasts … Toyota, TRD and Lexus supply reputable examples for each.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Thats what gets me about you self observed Toyota P*llers. Iam into real stylish and svelte lookers….much like women. Obviously you are happy with the dregs left and make do with bland ones. So we continue that theme and I would rather be seen in a Mazda 6 then Aurion as eyecatching. Or I would like to be seen in Veyron then a Porsche or a Mercedes Benz 4WD then a Territory. Why as S*X (with “e”) in middle sells and I like to drive something hot as opposed to whitegoods boring! They are just plain FUGLY - like the left over women when hot ones taken! Fancy making a statement driving a Camry ahead of a Mazda 6! Go watch the grass grow you ageing population! LOL
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May 2nd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I must have missed that … i didn’t get !!
What enthusiasts are you referring to - 4×4, luxury/prestiage, performance or motorsport ??
The population you come under is the ‘losers’ fraction
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
For crying out loud, we’re all ageing…
You know Toyota have done well overall.
They have picked a market, sold their cars (very well) and moved on doing what they do best.
What I can see going on here is that some people on this blog expect all car makers to suit everyone and their individual needs.
Now to me this just seems rediculous.
If i walk into McDonalds I expect to buy a burger to fill me up, I don’t car if it’s healthy or not, it gets the job done. When I go to Toyota i expect a car, to get me from A to B, little more.
Now, should I expect McDonalds to go and start selling fried chicken (KFC) just because I can’t be bothered move?
Should I also expect Toyota to start selling a good looking, perfect car just because I can’t be bothered to look at the other choices?
McDonalds has tried to answer the wants of people wanting a healthy alternative (in other words, a better car) and decided to sell salads. While i’m sure they’re selling quite well, this is a large gamble (which can cost a large portion of a companies value) as most of their market are burger eaters, just wanting a meal and moving on.
Just because I want something from place A that doesn’t suit me, I take my money somewhere else that suits my wants and tastes better. It’s called choice and as the consumer, there’s plenty of it.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
You are too simple to beg a reply as the concept of ageing population is way over your Bananas in Pyjamas mentality. LOL you are more at a lower level then I thought you were.
So obviously you must be attracted to bush pig FUGLIES up your way as you would rather be seen in an ugly car when more svelte and sweet cute cars available outside your Toyota bubble your simplistically live in.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
As a car enthusiast I place credence on being seen in a headturning car that has massive street creed, very eyecatching and presence. This has nothing to do with your silly comment and more to do as what look is hot and what look is not. Something you have dreams outside your Toyota bubble world.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:24 pm
To put it into Romper Room terms so you can galvanise it and know…..would you rather be seen in a Veyron or a Lada Niva square box (or maybe a rectangle with wheels). Still gets job done…but one is very ugly and Iam not into being seen in very ugly. Obviously ugly is in thing with you! When you drive something that is nice….you feel nice and better!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm
how close was the mazda 3 to the commie for april sales?
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Dennis whats the url for the april stats please?
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I don’t know if that was directed at me or not but i see no logic behind your posts other than, I hate this, i hate that, go do this, go do that - because that’s the way i like it.
I know that when you state the “ageing population” that is directed at exactly that, the ageing population (60 years + i’d say). But you seem to be unable to get this fact out of your head that because Toyota don’t design the type of car YOU want it’s suddenly only for the elderly and they should change their tactics to suit you, losing their (stated) “ageing population” market.
While i am attracted to some Toyota’s for specific looks, i am also not attracted to their looks.
That’s part of the reason why an IS250 and RX330 was more up my alley for both looks and overall use as a car.
Don’t go on about Lexus being Toyota and call me a suckup either because previous cars include 2 BMW’s (their 6’s are quite frankly, awesome), Honda, Toyota, Mitsubish and Nissan.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Finally some logic….albeit it a much higher cost to the buyer. Like those cars I agree are hot and much more $! So what Iam eluding to is if I want real sparkle and style and gets heads turning to get a 1993 model MR2! Aside from that a more conservative sedate look to range!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
And Iam rare is sense that I will support many different cars as one would be silly to support one car maker! Do you agree?
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May 2nd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
When snookered on style…..checkmate move back is to step up serious dollars to find this style!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
How much torque for the engine?]
And this time we hope they made it RWD!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Supporter of Toyota…. The sport is open to other manufacturers .. the regulations don’t specifically state that the category is the exclusive domain of Ford and Holden.
However it does list a number of criteria that manufacturers must meet inorder to be elligible to compete: the ain ones being that the car is [based on] an Australian Built REAR WHEEL DRIVE family sized sedan with a Pushrod V8 engine which produces 620-700Bhp..
Therefore no matter how mmuch you or Holdens CEO Mr Mark Reuss would like another manufactirer… in particular Toyota to compete.. there isn;t much chance of it happeniong as Toyota don’t build a RWD Family Sdan in Oz =even though they had the perfect opportunity with the Aurion.
Because Why would AVESCO want to change such a winning successful formula - the only improvement they could make to the sport would be to give the TV Broadcast back to 10
Although they could introduce a V6 Supercar category
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May 2nd, 2008 at 6:42 pm
No, best Toyota stick with Go carts with minature Aurion shells.
Bullshit motor racing for a Company built on bullshit.
Craftsman Trucks = monster trucks? Around and around and around a banked track again?
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May 2nd, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Mmmm i’m off to McDonalds for a Falcon.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Realcars you really are an idiot. Toyota compete in more races then Ford… or Holden… or whoever else you want to mention. When it comes to motorsports, they are the kings. They build cars which serve their purpose very well. A road var : Reliable. Race car : Fast
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May 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
f1 fair enough but Naascar/craftsman trucks is American bogan fair.
In a world where the consumer is spoilt for choice how numb nutts can enthuse about Toyota is beyond me and let along choose this overrated and overpriced crap over others is also beyond me.
Im sure that if Toyota were doing as well at motorsport as u suggest then we would all hear a lot more about it one hundred fold via the Toyota Spin myster juggernaut.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Here is a free tip TP.
If u sit on your hand long enough u can pretend it is somebody else.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 7:37 pm
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Ha Ha - realcars, sooooo funny. what a ripper as you boys say. LOL
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Realcars and Maximus … i am noticing a rapid decline in the substance of your replies. Infact, they have become weak and meaningless based on nothing.
Basically - you guys have got nothing left.
How does it feel to lose !!
Cheers
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Too right No Name!
Gotta love the born again movement, it is based on gut feeling as the more you believe your own distortions then it becomes true and geepers there are some units way out there! You know who I mean! Ha Ha Ha!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Some Q1 2008 facts …
1. Toyota outsold GM
2. GM returned a multi-billion dollar loss - again !!
3. Ford returned a wee-little profit
4. Toyota expected to announce another multi-billion dollar profit.
5. Toyota flogging Holden and Ford in local sales.
6. Corolla outsold Commodore
7. Toyota winning multiple NASCAR races against the US locals at thier own game on thier own soil … OOOOCH !!
Infact - Toyota alone has won exactly 50% of all NASCAR series combined this year (so far) and that’s not mentioning the multiple 2nd and 3rd placing either.
OH WHAT A FEELING …
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Oh No Name….Torquay wasnt singled out by me, I quoted that as out of one of the legendary shows of Fawlty Towers!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:26 pm
“6. Corolla outsold Commodore”
Supporter Of Toyota Motorsports,
that may be because of the cost of petrol today people dont want to by as much large cars today, even they are more pratical because they have more room the price of petrol (and diesel) is becoming a joke.
And so what if Toyota beats the holden commodore with the corolla in sales!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Just a reminder of Toyota winnings in NASCAR this year so far :
Sprint Series (tier 1) … 3 wins from 9
Nationwide Series (tier 2) … 6 wins from 10
Craftsman Trucks … 3 wins from 5
* note - Toyota has won the last 4 consecative Nationwide meetings
Formula 1 :
Williams-Toyota … currently placed 4th from 11 teams
Team Toyota … currently placed 5th from 11 teams
Australian Rally Championships :
TRD Oz currently placed first after the first round - 5 more rds to be completed. Also, manufactuer title winner in 2006 & 2007
Oh what a feeling !!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Research revealed you are correct Duck….Sales at Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Corp. fell in April as record U.S. gasoline prices drove consumers to Toyota Motor Corp.’s fuel-efficient cars and away from big trucks and sport-utility vehicles. The sales decline for the Ford F-Series, America’s best- selling vehicle, overwhelmed sales gains for Ford’s Focus small car and Edge wagon. The Focus had a 43 percent increase in April, and the Edge was up 13 percent. The company said Focus sales to individual consumers rose 88 percent compared with April 2007, for the highest April sales for the model since 2000. Consumer confidence plunged to a five-year low in April, the Conference Board reported this week, as mounting job losses and soaring food and fuel prices cause Americans to retrench.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Duck … it’ all about pride my friend and that’s something that Holden doesn’t have much left especially when it’s last remaining bragging rights could just aswell be forfeited by year end.
Now that is gonna hurt … BIG TIME !!
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May 2nd, 2008 at 8:53 pm
U should try it SOTM might relieve some of that Toyota Motorsport tension.LOL
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May 2nd, 2008 at 9:02 pm
hahahaha drive revealed that so called xr6t was running on a higher octane fuel and it achived times of 5.1 to 5.2 and now with normal 95-octane fuel it achived 5.4 haha only 0.4 faster than a ss-v and has a lighter engine launch control new technology and a turbo and the funny thing is the ss-v 0-60 was just as quick 2.8 secs the xr8 got 3.2 and 6.3 0-100. This xr6t is not as impressive as i thought remeber it’s got a fpv typhoon engine and the xr8 has a gt motor and it’s still slugish at 6.3 to heavy and shit steering because of the weight, if i was a ford fan steer clear of the xr8. hopefully holden bring out the twin turbo alloytec DI.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Repetition Repetition Repetition.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Just notice, Hey Naugthyius Maximus,
About the MR2s..
I’ve done a lot of research with this car, literally. Do you plan on turbo model? Because the 3SGTE, especially generation III (late 1993- 1994 onwards) are much better than the generation 2. Generation 2 is very good, but Gen 3 is just better.
Also, you’d probably would want a rebuild on the turbo engine, it’ll be around 6 grand. The bathurst version, is much under powered, but the car’s weight being low, makes it bearable. Also, its rare to find a Gen 3 MR2 today… since they didnt really make them for Australia, in 2003-2004, a lot of 1990~1992 MR2 turbos where imported from Japan, but SEVS changed the rules so late 1993 onwards from Japan are VERY VERY rare… and you cannot import them under normal regulations… I plan on importing a 1996 GT MR2 sometime in the future, but would have to do it under racing conditions OR by personal import, which means living in Japan for a year atleast. But they sell very very cheap, a 1996 MR2 GT sells for about $8000 AUD. You’d probably want to know that the MR2, since the wheel base is short and the track is also narrow, tends to over steer a lot, but I’ve been researching optimum wheel width configuration… 7 inch on the front and 8.5 on the rear. That should balance the car’s over steer problems a lot.
And the main reason they stopped the production of the SW20 MR2 is because.. its almost 20 years old…
So yes, its funny a car that “HOT” looking is that old. Heck, the Supra (which is garaged for me at the moment), is also over 15 years old. And you can still see that they compete with new models in terms of looks.. especially performance.
Again, Toyota stopped production due to Emission rules and new regulations…
Now to go back on topic, its not that big of a deal… really now.
Also, yes, Toyota has seen little success in F1, but again, you have to realize its a very difficult transition.
Toyota themselves said that the “Toyota efficient-thinking method” is holding them back in terms of success in F1… other manufacturers have mastered and innovated on there own F1 management tactics and its paid off today. Toyota is actually still under transition in terms of adjusting to this motorsport… I’d give them another 5 years.
And people forget also, Toyota did dominate the WRC back in the mid 90s….
again, its not fair for people to just mention “recent” motorsports involvement.
Toyota changed a lot, and I can defnitely say, they are slowly updating their performance division.
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May 3rd, 2008 at 8:31 am
Your full of it! You abd your slowly!
Show me a model in your beloved range that has more spunk then a 1993model MR2…..? There is none and they have become more sedate in style!
Dont you ever become a heart transplant doctor….as you would be believing yourself and be doing it slowly!
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May 3rd, 2008 at 9:05 am
Agree … Toyota is slowly entering the performance market again.
TRD Oz has introduced the TRD Aurion which infact is a damn good car despite it’s FWD layout and certainly much a better product then some give credit and they have also just introduced Australia’s first tough truck (TRD Hilux) and no-doubt will prove relatively popular with the Tradies.
That said, Toyota is working on the next generation AE86, Supra (aka FT-HS))not to mention a joint project with Subaru while Lexus has already released the 311KW/500nm 8-speed 5.0 V8 IS-F with more ‘F’ series on the way including the LF-A Supercar.
And lets not forget motorsport : F1, NASCAR (Craftsman Trucks, Nationwide & Sprint Series), American and Australian Drag Racing (refer Tony Wedlock in Australia with his 1800hp / 6.5 sec imported Camry from TRD USA competing in the Pro Extreme Class), Japanese GT and ofcourse our own Australian Rally Championships (ARC) just to name a few.
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May 3rd, 2008 at 9:20 am
back on the aussie racing series,
Dingo,
toyota wont enter this series and flog ford and holden because guess what? ford and holden dont compete in the series because it is pretty much a privateer cup!!!!!!!!!
and i wouldnt expect you to get this either ……….
“learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd”
so no surprises when you seemed a bit lost with only one of your eyes working
i would be far more impressed if toyota entered the performance car series.
it is a stock racing series where the clubbies and EVo’s and rex’s etc all battle it out.
in fact why dont toyota enter the series? all there is is an out dated supra in the series.
what? dont toyota think they can mix it with the clubbies and EVO’s that usually dance away with the wins.
no, poor old toyota has to play in the kindergarden of motorsport and ruin the budget racers dreams.
“learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd”
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May 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 am
By ageing population, it is a proven fact that the average world wide age is getting a higher number. This includes and is not limited to less kids being born and higher life expectancy rates. Thus as Toyota run a business and only have ambitions for that (motor racing is opposite ambition….limited) they have tactically made cars appeal to a wider older age bracket.
Some simpletons have a very narrow view on the world and only obsessed on one car maker and are to vague to see this fact!
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May 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 am
And as Iam not into FULGLY things in life and particularly cars….most on here are too obtuse to see my comment about 1993 model MR2 as over there head.
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May 3rd, 2008 at 9:55 am
Fancy you mentioning aging population NM…..morning! Heard on the radio yesterday that Australia is in the top 4 in the world for having such a long life expectancy,behind Japan and 2 other Euro countries. There are 3000 people in Australia currently that are 100 or over and in another 50 years they are saying there will be 75000….Just dont let them in a Prius please!
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May 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 am
Very funny Miss Smarty Emu Pants.
Stop and think of what Iam saying and it makes great business sense…..no Celica, no MR2, etc and bland Corolla and Camry.
One does not need to be 5ft across forehead to see the link!
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May 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Yeah heard that too
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May 3rd, 2008 at 12:12 pm
nm, agree its not as good as the mondeo/mazda6 interior/exterior but then again those are the medium segment, if i dropped down the segment I was looking at the Liberty 3.0R at the time I bought the Aurion, Aurion was better compared to its large counterparts Commodore VE /Falcon BF and plus with EVP discount rate it it pulled me in from further considering the Liberty.
Im pretty sure Toyota will go back to build a proper performance range, If they dominate one market segment (ageing, average) they’ll want to dominate the others…
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May 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
YEAH HAA ….
Toyota off to another good start in NASCAR this weekend at Richmond International Raceway with Toyota coming 1st (Denny Hamlin) and 3rd (Kyle Busch) in the Nationwide Series today.
Todays win in the ‘Nationwide’ takes that to 5 consecative wins for Toyota (Joe Gibbs Racing)in that particular event and should make for interesting racing tomorrow in the Sprint Series after Toyota won both events last weekend at Talladega.
YOU LIITLE BEAUTY - GO TOYOTA …
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May 3rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Andrew … FAIRDINKUM - you are a joke : support motorsport then support your brand - you live in la, la land dude.
Toyota’s success in NASCAR at the moment is making Chevy, Ford and Dodge look like Kindergarden kids… ha, ha, ha.
Infact - right now, they are probably feeling like kindy kids.
Oh yeah - and that’s why Ford or GM don’t compete in F1 because it is reserved for the big boys only.
Go back to bed … joker !!
ps. the ‘aging population’ is killing the young, dumb Americans at thier own game on thier own soil … OOOCH - now that has got to be painful !!
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May 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 pm
and just because you love it……..
“learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd”
you have no idea what you are talking about. goodbye
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May 3rd, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Maximus - your thinking is WRONG !!
Toyota manufactuer cars for all ages wether be young, middle aged or old. Yaris and Corolla has a strong following from younger generations, the Aurion is doing remarkedly well amoung the middle aged population while Toyota 4×4’s / commercials are purchased by all including the young.
Lexus has a older following but the average age is gradually falling especially amoung people who buy the IS series while the IS-F will likely entice a new breed again.
That said, what’s your point against the older generation exactly - i hope you are not suggesting they are not car lovers or enthusiasts especialy considering they grew up during the muscle car era. Most of them would have a greater understanding of cars then the younger generation therefore tend to make a much more educated and experianced decision when buying cars.
Have a think about your comments and broaden that awfuly narrow minded grey-matter of yours because your thinking is warped.
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May 3rd, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Andrew … WRONG - you have no idea because you live in la, la, land.
Check out the NASCAR results.
Oh What A Feeling …
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May 3rd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
“learn to support motorsport first, and then support your chosen brand (toyota) 2nd”
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May 3rd, 2008 at 1:34 pm
You live in la, la, land !!
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May 3rd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
So how long you been a big follower of Nascar Dingo? Got any merchandise ? Anyone know if you can get TRD Aurion T-shirts,ill send you one mate if you havent. Emerald isn’t it! You’ll laugh if I do,or not.
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