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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoil sport? Maybe. 
I&#039;m not suggesting everyone sell their cars. I am suggesting that more public transport would pull more cars off the seriously congested roadways, result in less pollution, and mean dramatically less capital expenditure on roadways and upgrading of existing infrastructure. 
I am a motoring enthusiast, yet if reliable and efficient public transport was available then I&#039;d use it and indulge in my motoring passions after hours and on weekends.
When will our governments realise the problem!?!?
Oil IS a finite resource, if you want to be enjoying cars in 30 years then we need to conserve oil wherever possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoil sport? Maybe.<br />
I&#8217;m not suggesting everyone sell their cars. I am suggesting that more public transport would pull more cars off the seriously congested roadways, result in less pollution, and mean dramatically less capital expenditure on roadways and upgrading of existing infrastructure.<br />
I am a motoring enthusiast, yet if reliable and efficient public transport was available then I&#8217;d use it and indulge in my motoring passions after hours and on weekends.<br />
When will our governments realise the problem!?!?<br />
Oil IS a finite resource, if you want to be enjoying cars in 30 years then we need to conserve oil wherever possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Naughtyius Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naughtyius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 11:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmmmm WTF. 

Must be bugger all traffic madness at Emerald. Maybe the former (traffic), but would say the warblings at times might be the later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmmmm WTF. </p>
<p>Must be bugger all traffic madness at Emerald. Maybe the former (traffic), but would say the warblings at times might be the later?</p>
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		<title>By: 19 Crendon St, Emerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>19 Crendon St, Emerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 11:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoilsport Cameron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoilsport Cameron</p>
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		<title>By: cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 10:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.36 Billion!!!
That would buy a lot of buses and get lots of cars of the road I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.36 Billion!!!<br />
That would buy a lot of buses and get lots of cars of the road I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: joober</title>
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		<dc:creator>joober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 07:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree SuperKujo, PT needs to get their act together and introduce better/more frequent services, Being on the Glen waverley line, it is shocking the sardiness of Peak hour, let alone on some days they are still using the Hitachi trains, 

Furthermore... Parking at start of the line train stations are getting worse, its filled up so quickly in the morning leaving people with no alternative but to drive in.

Another possibilty instead of continually upgrading both transport infrastructures is to disperse the CBD, make another area for tall buildings and offices where traffic is also dispersed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree SuperKujo, PT needs to get their act together and introduce better/more frequent services, Being on the Glen waverley line, it is shocking the sardiness of Peak hour, let alone on some days they are still using the Hitachi trains, </p>
<p>Furthermore&#8230; Parking at start of the line train stations are getting worse, its filled up so quickly in the morning leaving people with no alternative but to drive in.</p>
<p>Another possibilty instead of continually upgrading both transport infrastructures is to disperse the CBD, make another area for tall buildings and offices where traffic is also dispersed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 06:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure they&#039;re just talking about the Westgate-Monash upgrade, and as usual, the project has had it&#039;s budget overblown
Usual Labor way isnt it
I agree with Frugal-One....the Ring Road needs massive upgrades. How about upgrading the whole thing to 3 lanes each direction, and extending it around to Ringwood to meet with either Eastlink or the Eastern Freeway as the RACV ahs said for years

Oh and there have been no delays with Eastlink - its running months ahead of time, and the only disruptions have really been around the Monash interchange,and thats all done now anyway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;re just talking about the Westgate-Monash upgrade, and as usual, the project has had it&#8217;s budget overblown<br />
Usual Labor way isnt it<br />
I agree with Frugal-One&#8230;.the Ring Road needs massive upgrades. How about upgrading the whole thing to 3 lanes each direction, and extending it around to Ringwood to meet with either Eastlink or the Eastern Freeway as the RACV ahs said for years</p>
<p>Oh and there have been no delays with Eastlink &#8211; its running months ahead of time, and the only disruptions have really been around the Monash interchange,and thats all done now anyway</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal-One</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal-One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 06:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WGB traffic is already a pox, i travel on it twice a day, looks like its going to get lots worse...

Now it all makes sense, the onramp change [Gellong Bound]
 at the Shell servo was never finished, now i know why the hold up is.

$1.39 Billion...ouch!

They should just build a tunnel under the Yarra River
at Williamstown road like *they* planned decades ago.

If it was China it would have been done already....

Western Ring Road needs update, carrys HUGE amount of traffic and 2 lanes is useless.

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WGB traffic is already a pox, i travel on it twice a day, looks like its going to get lots worse&#8230;</p>
<p>Now it all makes sense, the onramp change [Gellong Bound]<br />
 at the Shell servo was never finished, now i know why the hold up is.</p>
<p>$1.39 Billion&#8230;ouch!</p>
<p>They should just build a tunnel under the Yarra River<br />
at Williamstown road like *they* planned decades ago.</p>
<p>If it was China it would have been done already&#8230;.</p>
<p>Western Ring Road needs update, carrys HUGE amount of traffic and 2 lanes is useless.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: supercujo</title>
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		<dc:creator>supercujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say get rid of roads, I said keep improving public transport as you improve roads. And eliminating all commuters from the roads is just plain impossible. At some point you will reach a point where traffic congestion is nicely balanced with public transport use, which means big road projects like this will become less and less common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say get rid of roads, I said keep improving public transport as you improve roads. And eliminating all commuters from the roads is just plain impossible. At some point you will reach a point where traffic congestion is nicely balanced with public transport use, which means big road projects like this will become less and less common.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to throw stones, not so easy for a perfect solution to be found.

If we remove the commuters from the roads, who will be left?

As a massive continent with vast distances and miniscule population, we don&#039;t have the ability to remove roads from our commuting needs.  Come to think of it, the high density population places like Japan and Indonesia still have roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to throw stones, not so easy for a perfect solution to be found.</p>
<p>If we remove the commuters from the roads, who will be left?</p>
<p>As a massive continent with vast distances and miniscule population, we don&#8217;t have the ability to remove roads from our commuting needs.  Come to think of it, the high density population places like Japan and Indonesia still have roads.</p>
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		<title>By: supercujo</title>
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		<dc:creator>supercujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All hail to the oil kings.

Are they investing the same into public transport? Get the commuters off the road and congestion will disappear.

How about we push for a plan that for every dollar spent on road infrastructure, an equal amount must be spent on alternative passenger transport?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All hail to the oil kings.</p>
<p>Are they investing the same into public transport? Get the commuters off the road and congestion will disappear.</p>
<p>How about we push for a plan that for every dollar spent on road infrastructure, an equal amount must be spent on alternative passenger transport?</p>
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