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New Car Emissions Cut for Australia: Finally

By John Cadogan |

Lower ‘Euro 5’ exhaust emissions standards will be imposed for all new cars in Australia from 2013 – and further tightened to ‘Euro 6’ levels in 2018. The move will progressively slash new car emissions, and by 2018 particulate matter emissions (of diesels in particular) will drop by up to 90 per cent, NOx (oxides of nitrogen) by up to 70 per cent and unburned hydrocarbons by 50 per cent. All three pollutants are known to have adverse impacts on human health – in particular respiratory health.

Above: The sign the local car industry has been trying to avoid

The regulations are separate from CO2 emissions limits set to be introduced in 2015. (CO2 is basically joined at the hip to fuel consumption. Every kilogram of liquid fuel burnt is essentially a little less than 2.5kg of CO2 emitted – this conversion is thermodynamically fundamental to the release of energy during combustion that makes your car go.)

The new pollution compliance regime, announced by Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese, brings Australia into line with other developed countries that have already signed off on the tougher emissions standards. Mr Albanese told reporters: “Over time, the new standards will lead to cleaner, healthier skies.” He says the imposition on the health system will be cut by $1.5 billion over 20 years – which is a sexy way of saying $75 million annually.

Above: Exhibit A – Shanghai. The reason why…

Basically, the Federal Government is just signing off on emissions standards much of the rest of the developed world has already committed to. The adoption of the regulations in Australia is somewhat late, as usual on these things. Mr Albanese is quick to point out that no local jobs will be lost as a result, but the cost of some vehicles – especially diesels – might rise. This is because under the current regulations, particulate filtration of diesel engine exhaust emissions is more or less optional. The new regulations will mandate such filtration. Expect the increase in cost per vehicle (for diesels that lack filters today) to be in the $1000 ballpark.

Diesel engine exhausts produce particles that are known to be carcinogenic. (This is not necessarily a reason not to buy a hi-tech new diesel – but it is a reason to buy a hi-tech new diesel only with exhaust particle filtration.) In 2001, in an official government report by the German Federal Environment Agency on the mortality of the German population of 82 million, at least 14,400 died as a consequence of diesel soot exposure. According to respected medical journal, The Lancet, 7.4 per cent of heart attacks are thought to be due to vehicle exhaust exposure, which the publication claims is the single biggest preventable cause of heart attack.

Above: Modern diesels don’t emit many visible particles – but what you can’t see can hurt you

Microscopically, the fine particles in diesel exhausts are rough, and they tend to bind easily (in chemistry terms) with other toxins in exhaust gasses, where they can be ingested via the lungs and work their evil magic on your DNA… Next stop: chemotherapy.

Diesels also emit very fine particles, called nanoparticles. The effect of these on human health is not yet fully known – but initial signs are less than encouraging.

Catalyzing particulate filters on some modern new diesel cars trap these health-hazardous particles and then burn them to smithereens (not a technical term) periodically – so they can do no further harm. Under the current regulations, such filters are optional. By 2018 they will be mandatory.

Above: Catalyzing particulate filters last the life of the vehicle and don’t need to be serviced in normal operation

Frankly, it’s not all plain sailing on the filtration front. Operationally, cars with catalysing filters can be traps for young (or at least unwitting) players. In diesel cars used exclusively in the city the filters can sometimes malfunction. They need several kilometres of low-load highway running to burn off the trapped contaminants (known in the catalysing game as ‘regeneration’). If you don’t give such cars free reign to regenerate, their self-monitoring systems can send a black flag to the engine control computer – prompting the vehicle to enter ‘limp home’ mode, with an unscheduled visit to the dealer soon to follow. Egg on face all round…

(When this happens, this is an epic ‘own goal’ for the car company: owners are often offside after being sidelined in this fashion by premium-priced technology that they paid the big bucks for. The wife of a former leading Australian motoring magazine editor, driving a long-term test car, once experienced exactly this fault. He had no idea this problem pertained to filtered diesels. In other words, if it happens to respected industry insiders, you can bet there is a tsunami of private punters caught unawares by this phenomenon.)

On the plus side, catalysing exhaust filters need no servicing or replacement. They last the life of the vehicle – every time they regenerate they clean themselves out, and are good to go again, times infinity. And their exhaust emissions are a lot less likely to cause cancer or other cardio-pulmonary diseases.

The local car industry is unlikely to be overjoyed at Mr Albanese’s announcement that we are keeping up with the Joneses in the developed world (and finally toughening up) on car exhausts – albeit as late players in this game. Lobbying by this group might be one of the reasons why we’re so late to the table. As things stand, we will be one of the last allegedly civilised countries on earth to adopt the stringent new regulations – in line with our historical position on both emissions and fuel quality regulations.

Local car manufacturers, which will have to spend millions to comply, are publicly silent in this debate. Mr Albanese refers to the new rules as a “real win” for the industry. He also told reporters he’d “sat down with the respective CEOs”, and that they would “welcome this proposal”.

Any way you look at this, it’s at best a half-truth. Mr Albanese probably has sat down with the CEOs. Publicly they might even welcome the outcome (even though considerable lobbying to delay has been in fact going on). And it’s not a “proposal”. It’s a regulation.

One of the reasons the local mob is unhappy is that the so-called Federal Government Green Car Innovation Fund, which formerly provided a taxpayer-funded R&D backhander to car companies, stopped taking applications five months ago.

However, this doesn’t mean government co-funding of the car industry is over. You can almost guarantee emissaries from one or all of the three local manufacturers will be making a case in Canberra soon (if they have not done so already) for taxpayer funds to supplement the required R&D for lower emissions.

Forthcoming Federal Government car industry funding (that’s our tax dollars, folks) – if any – in this fashion has often historically been deemed ‘commercial in confidence’ by the government. It is therefore a de facto government secret deal done between the Federal Industry Minister and the car company/companies in question. The details are not available for public scrutiny or debate – even under FOI legislation.

Above: The Federal Government says stricter emissions controls will save the health system $75 million a year

This arrangement begs a set of inter-related obvious questions: Should the Federal Government ‘kick the tin’ with our taxpayer funds to help local manufacturers compete with imported cars by part-funding the R&D to help the local product meet global standards? Are you happy for part of the tax you pay to be spent in this fashion (or do you think it would be better spent fixing vital infrastructure like roads, or the health system, etc)? What do you think of Mr Albanese’s department’s decision to declare the new regulation a triumph, despite being dragged to the table, late in the game? Should American interests at Ford and Holden, and Japanese interests at Toyota, potentially demand taxpayer funding to meet standards the rest of the developed world already has – in the absence of a kickback from you? Should taxpayers part-fund the local operations of three of the world’s largest carmakers – or should they fund their own R&D entirely? Would you be happy for the Federal Government to keep the details of such funding – if any – secret? Are the local jobs worth the considerable taxpayer funds?

Please tell us your views by commenting below.

 


 
  • http://www.holotropik.com technofreak

    At first I LOL’d at this as many cars in Oz already have EU stage V standards. But now I see that it is just putting in place something that should have been there for ages anyway. Still confused but…whatever.

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ John Cadogan

      Technofreak,

      The reason many cars here meet Euro 5 standards is that they’re required to do so overseas. Since most cars we get here are also sold globally, they must comply with Euro 5 today. New cars in the European Union have had to comply with Euro 5 emissions regs since September 2009. Inline six Ford Falcons, for example, only started to meet Euro 4 standards last year, from July I think… (There’s no market outside Australia for the Falcon, so no obligation on Ford Oz to design it to meet the cleaner regs.) Given that Falcon sales are way down, it’s a safe bet to presume that Ford Oz would be disinclined to spend millions to improve the Falcon’s emissions performance, unless new regulations required it to do so.

      Thanks for taking the time to comment on CarAdvice.

      Sincerely,

      John Cadogan
      Editor

      • Road Warrior

        The jump from Euro IV to Euro V actually isn’t that significant. Particulate matter and NOx are the main changes however I think you’ll find that engines in locally made cars are already “there” with little additional resources to get them over the line. The main issue is ensuring the emissions control system can last the mandated longevity period (160,000klm for E5)

        As far as Ford Australia goes, Euro VI is a mute point (for the Falcon anyway) because regardless of what happens with the next-gen Falcon platform, it will be using global engines most likely sourced from the US – the inline 6 won’t survive past 2015. Like Holden, use of global motors sourced from the US will easily allow them to meet the standards because those engines already meet a US equivalent of the EU regs.

      • Skybreak

        “There’s no market outside Australia for the Falcon…”

        Actually there is a market outside of Australia – Falcons and Territorys are sold in New Zealand.
        They also used to be sold in South Africa until recently, though I don’t know why that stopped.

  • Derek

    No doubt car manufacturers will slug the Australian population with price rises. I really do not understand how a Mercedes E Class sells for less in the USA than a Commodore or Falcon does in Australia; then Mercedes are happy taking huge profits and Ford and Holden don’t have to raise their game as long as these Europeans including Audi and BMW are taking the piss.

  • Chris Jackson

    Why do they need any money for R&D? All the parent companies sell cars in Europe, so surely the filters and other technology that work there will work here too? Just fit them. “R&D funds” is just another name for industry assistance. I would suggest having a careful look at the quality of fuel sold here compared with in Europe. And stop the introduction of methanol, which is a fake solution and a sop to the Nationals and their supporters like Manildra. E10 burns a bit cleaner but you have to use more of it to go the same distance and it wastes food-producing land.

  • Shak

    I thought Euro V was implemented in Europe a while back, so wouldn’t that mean that almost all diesel cars sold in Australia would already be diesel filter compliant to begin with? Even the locally manufactured ones(of which there are two) should have been compliant to these emissions standards a while back seeing as they have been being sold for a while in Europe.( The engine in the Tezza has been in service in Europe for a while now)

    Just one comment for John about the last paragraph. Im very happy to have my tax money help R&D for out local manufacturers because as much as you detest them they Are Australian, and they keep Aussies in Jobs. They have been here for over half a century and have been doing their part for Australia in a lot of areas. Like i said above, most of the cars sold here already meet those standards so its not as if we’d be pouring billions more into the locals for a single project.

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ John Cadogan

      Shak,

      Thanks for commenting.

      Euro V doesn’t require particle filtration as I understand it. Euro 6 does. This means mandatory particle filtration for diesels won’t begin here until 2018. So for the next seven years, the decision to filter diesel exhausts or not will be entirely at the manufacturer’s discretion.

      In relation to your last paragraph, I don’t detest the local manufacturers. I have a great deal of respect for all of them. I think the people are extremely committed and the product is excellent – especially well suited to Australia, and great value for money. I don’t think this is a love/hate issue. It’s an issue about how much government assistance is warranted.

      I think the local manufacturers are dragging the chain here and delaying the implementation of stricter emissions laws by lobbying hard in Canberra, mostly under the radar. If they do get taxpayer funds, I don’t hate them for that either – but I do question the government’s priorities. Personally I think there are better things to spend our money on (health, roads, etc.) It will cost millions – but you are correct when you say it won’t cost billions.

      All three local manufacturers are merely local subsidiaries of much larger corporations that are overseas-owned. They’re three of the largest car companies on earth. They have been here for a long time as you say, and the jobs are a positive. As you say, they also contribute positively to society in other positive ways.

      For example I don’t agree that the total $75 million in taxpayer funds used to get Toyota across the line on building the Hybrid Camry here was a worthwhile allocation of taxpayer funds. I think almost everyone would agree more good could have been done by spending that money on alternative initiatives that yielded greater net benefit to society.

      Shak I’d like to thank you for commenting on this (and other) issues on CarAdvice. Robust, rational debate on issues that matter is, essentially, what separates Australia from places like Syria – where you are often not allowed to voice an opinion. Thanks very much for voicing yours.

      Best regards,

      John Cadogan
      Editor

      • Shak

        Fair point you have John, and sorry bout the Euro V issue, i misunderstood the article.

      • Andrew M

        John,
        Is this an article about the new overdue tough diesel emissions or just an excuse to boot the boot in??
        Sorry if that sounded blunt, I just wanted to see what the real issue is you are trying to create involvement about.

        Ill Kick off about “tax dollars” propping up industry.
        Firstly Holden and Ford are in a different boat to Toyota.
        The Falcon and Commodore are actually developed here whereas Camry Hybrid funds wasnt really an innovative initiative in my view.
        I would like to crunch some numbers with you about tax dollars, but before I do perhaps you could help me by quoting the number of employees of H, F, & T from floor sweepers to engineering staff.
        Ive crunched the numbers before, but unsure how current my numbers were.
        Look forward to hearing….

        2nd topic, emissions……..
        Particulates isnt an issue of the Aussie manufacturers because they dont produce diesel engines which are the beasts being put under the microscope.

        Also the aussie manufacturers arent as far behind as you make out. Both the Commy and Falcon will get through. The Ecoboost will get the Falcon there and I think its late this year that the I6 will comply with the new regs

        The Sidi in the commodore is also getting an update.
        Im not sure if you meant to, but the impression I got is that you were implying the Aussie manufacturers stand bugger all chance in getting there.

        Cheers

        • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ John Cadogan

          Andrew,

          I don’t think I was sticking the boot in. If I were, however, I’d be sticking it to a bunch of limp-wristed politicians who can’t implement emissions regs in line with the rest of the civilised world.

          Particulates isn’t an issue for Aussie for Aussie manufacturers is, because Euro 5 & 6 both require stricter NOx and HC controls in engines that are built here. Aussie manufacturers will comply, but it will cost them millions, which is why they’ve been successfully lobbying for a delay.

          Putting the boot in is very different to this. This is a report. If you think I stuck the boot in, I’d like you to tell me which bit of the report was wrong, or untrue. I’m happy to correct anything I reported that’s wrong. My intention was just to report the facts and then get a bit of debate on this issue going.

          Sincerely,

          John Cadogan
          Editor

          • Tom

            Just as an aside on the Camry Hybrid issue, from what I’ve heard, Toyota would have built it regardless of the subsidy. The point of subsidies should be to correct perceived market failures. However, it appeared the market would have developed the hybrid Camry without intervention, so why waste money?

          • Andrew M

            John,
            Well you didnt answer to much of my first comment, so perhaps one bit at a time.

            Do you agree most of these new measures attack diesel emissions and that diesel emissions isnt really an aussie manufacturers issue?

            Do you agree that the Falcon and Commodore have already got solutions to the new emissions laws?

            Also, are you able to help me out with employment figures in the Auto industry so we can open up the tax dollar debate rather than just kicking it round but never really evaluating it??

            Cheers

        • Phil

          Andrew M, Ford failed get the the LPG 6 and the XR8 through Euro 4 and ditched both models. I wouldn’t be so optimistic about them getting the basic Inline 6 through Euro 5 (ecoboost should be fine).

          • Andrew M

            Thats true mate,
            Thats why they now have the better LPG system coming and the Coyote V8.

            They have evolved to meet new standards over time, and Im sure they will once again.

            The Old versions failed, so they found a version or advanced a system that wouldnt.
            Not sure what you were trying to prove

  • John

    If we are so late with matching the overseas standards, and if the local manufacturers are overseas owned, what expensive research needs to be done and subsidised? They already know the answers, and are just too mean to impliment them without regulation. Automotive R&D to meet existing overseas standards should not be taxpayer funded.

  • chook

    So the government thinks they can change the world while our emissions are near nothing compared to those of china and india . Might they realise that emissions produced overseas will in time spread over the entire worlds atmosphere , and not just stay within the countries boundaries where they were made . Theyre idiots with their carbon tax , emission laws , smoking laws and so on . On the other hand I do support hybrids for those people who just use a car for A to B without being enthusiasts . If all the virtual shopping trolleys on the road were electric powered to some degree then there would be so much more petrol available for those who appreciate internal combustion for what it is !! . This effectively would reduce our national usage of petrol and reduce the price for the V8s and turbo sixes on the road , so therefore , most small cars are a waste of precious fuel !! . I know this will cause an outrage with many when they read this but im sticking to this .

    • AcuraTSX

      The amount of carbon dioxide emitted by Australia may seem small when compared to that of China or India, however the 2008 U.S. governments Energy Information Administration ranking U.S. governments Energy Information Administration ranking study ranks Australia 1st as the nation with the highest carbon dioxide emitted per capita. An average Australian emits 20.82 tons per capita. That’s 15.91 more tons emitted per capita than China who currently stands at 4.91 tons of carbon dioxide per capita.

      • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ John Cadogan

        Acura,

        Thanks for commenting. Agreed with your points on CO2 emissions. However, none of the tailpipe emissions regulations targets CO2. According to Australian Government regulation, CO2 isn’t officially a pollutant. (The rise of the term ‘carbon pollution’ in recent months has confused this issue.) There are no CO2 regulations for cars in AUstralia, but there will be in 2015, according to Anthony Albanese. Also, the reason our per capita CO2 emissions are above China’s and India’s relates directly to our higher living standard. The only real way to redress that in the medium term is to put all the lights out at night and turn all the appliances off…and I’m pretty sure few of us would put up with that.

        Sincerely,

        John Cadogan
        Editor

    • shockjock

      You are a walking stereotype of all that is awry with Australian male pschye.

  • Auto

    I think it would have been better if the funding for R & D for the Hydbrid Toyota Camry had also kept the price down. The hybrid Camry and other electric cars seem to still cost more than the less fuel efficient cars. I also think car companies earn a lot of money, why can’t they fund R & D themselves. When government gives them funding, it does not seem to help to lower the car prices.
    I agree that more could be spent on quality of roads. I haven’t had many cars, but my current car has firm suspension, and I notice every bump. Never been to Europe, but I think they have much better roads.

  • Emily

    It’s nice that this is finally being implemented, the Australian market has long needed something like this, and even though European cars have Euro 5 clearance, they are more expensive so many people will choose to buy the cheaper cars which do not need the same clearance. It’s also nice to see something with a goal that is before 2020.

  • MonteP

    And what about trucks and heavy vehicles????

    1. Black smoke from any vehicle exhaust is unburnt fuel. How many heavy vehicles with lead footed drivers do you see pumping out black smoke? Many, which tells me the mechanics servicing those vehicles don’t know what they are doing and neither do the drivers who drive them like racing cars.

    2. Oh, and lets not forget about Government vehicles, busses and trains.

    • Dave S

      That was my though too.

      Its great we are getting cleaner cars. We all love cleaner cars.

      But i just hope all the other industries are keeping up with the Auto industry at reducing emmisions.

  • lazza

    Good Article. I think this highlights the underhand lobbying that the local manufacturers do to try and keep car prices unnaturally high.

    As mentioned all of the ‘imports’ we get are Euro V compliant already – we’re really shafted and this shows it.

    Should we part-fund R&D for local manufacturers? I don’t think so, that funding could go better elsewhere (i.e. Health, roads, and definitely public transport). Would the part funding continue to have car-prices over inflated? Even if the cost was somehow justified the local consumer already feels shafted so consumer sentiment is shot and one would still pine for a nice luxo Euro.

    I struggle to see why tax payers should fund technology that is already available elsewhere… and for what reason? To support local industry? By the time we fund R&D to comply the rest would’ve moved on to Electric, Hydrogen Cell or whatever… and we’re left behind once again stifled by beauracratic red-tape… It’s a crazy waste of money.

  • O’reilly

    Long overdue. CO2 is the least of our environmental problems despite all the hoopla and the real issues and pollutants have been overlooked as a result. Some minor action on the later front at long last!

  • Paul

    Cleaner fuels would help as well, I am unable to put one diesel on my fleet due to the dirty nature of their tailpipe emissions, so a cleaner exhaust might help us get on, but any economy benefit I can see being chewed up with a higher price, we need to be using more of our homegrown fuels, the funny thing with my personal car, it is 4 years old and runs Euro 3 with petrol, but on LPG is rated at Euro 4 and the tailpipe emission are negligible, very little carbon build up and you could breathe what is emitted for hours and it would take a while to kill you, try doing that with some of the diesels out there, well you might not die immediately but just wait for the cancer to set in. Good move by Government, it should also be placed on trucks, mind you the latest Isuzu’s and Hino’s are very clean, let’s see the Yank haulers improve, they are generally filthy and big contributors to air pollution. Cash for clunkers would help and get some old blue smokers of the road.

  • Locky

    Hi John,

    What a pathetic waste of time and money all this crap is about reducing pollution by focusing on road registered vehicles.

    Please read a section of an article (below) regarding international shipping, it makes more sense for governments to focus on this thus giving an immediate and huge impact on reductions of NOX & SOX. When is the focus going to be on areas that make real change rather than areas (registered cars) that can impose rediculous taxes on into the future.

    Please read the article, in short if Australians bought locally manufactured vehicles rather than imports via huge ships this would be the best outcome for our environment AND for our manufacturing.

    I dare you to take this further with the contacts you have in the media so they can investigate it and report properly in it e.g. 60 minutes, 7.30 report or 4 Corners.

    Also, every vehicle manufactured in Australia should have a compulsory CNG option so you can fill up at home (wall mount compressor required of course), if this gas is good enough to burn for your own home heating it must be far better than Petrol, LPG & Diesel.

    Full Article: http://electric-vehicles-cars-bikes.blogspot.com/2009/05/big-polluters-one-massive-container.html

    exert

    Unregulated emissions

    In international waters ship emissions remains one of the least regulated parts of our global transportation system. The fuel used in ships is waste oil, basically what is left over after the crude oil refining process. It is the same as asphalt and is so thick that when cold it can be walked upon . It’s the cheapest and most polluting fuel available and the world’s 90,000 ships chew through an astonishing 7.29 million barrels of it each day. That’s equivalent to more than 84% of all exported oil production from Saudi Arabia, the worlds largest oil exporter.

    Shipping is by far the biggest transport polluter in the world. There are 760 million cars in the world today emitting approx 78,599 tons of Sulphur Oxides (SOx) annually. The world’s 90,000 vessels burn approx 370 million tons of fuel per year emitting 20 million tons of Sulphur Oxides. That equates to 260 times more Sulphur Oxides being emitted by ships than the worlds entire car fleet. One large ship alone can generate approx 5,200 tonnes of sulphur oxide pollution in a year, meaning that 15 of the largest ships now emit as much SOx as the worlds 760 million cars.

    South Korea’s STX shipyard says it has designed a ship to carry 22,000 shipping containers that would be 450 meters long and there are already 3,693 new ship builds on the books for ocean going vessels over 150 meters in length due over the next three years. The amount of air pollution just these new ships will put out when launched is equal to having another 29 billion cars on the roads.

    The UN’s International Maritime Organisation (IMO) released a report in 2007 saying a 10% reduction in fuel burning was possible on existing ships and 30-40% possible for new ships but the technology is largely unused, as the regulations are largely voluntary.

    • KG

      Locky, this is really interesting stuff that I, and I’m sure plenty of others, didn’t know about. Thanks for bringing it up. I don’t agree that this should be done *instead* of the regulations discussed in the article – we shouldn’t only go after the largest polluting sector but all polution everywhere. Agriculture, energy and transportation infrastructure are the biggies, but everything helps.

      • Locky

        Thanks KG, I agree that reductions in everything helps but my point I am trying to convey is that we should tackle the biggest polluter that is the easiest to fix first e.g. shipping.

        here is a PDF you can download, please email to all your friends and workmates to help get the word out about the shipping industry so we can all pressure governments worldwide to act on this pathetic situation.

        PS. Did you know that the USA’s coast guard laws mandate that all heavy shipping must switch over to ‘cleaner’ (diesel) fuels once entering their waters. Obviously they aware of the problem but only care about it in their immediate waters, hasn’t anyone informed them that we all share the same air.

        • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ John Cadogan

          KG & Locky,

          Thanks for commenting. Great points.

          I’m with you guys – pollution in all sectors needs to be addressed. Vehicle emissions are important to human health because they occur where we all live. This means the concentrations of those pollutants are high locally to our homes, even though they might be a small fraction of the overall mix.

          Appreciate your interest in the topic.

          Sincerely,

          John Cadogan
          Editor

          • Locky

            John, I agree with your point on reducing pollution in higher populated ares and local manufacturers should always strive to achieve this e.g. Euro 5 & 6.
            But, through your contacts you need to make the wider community aware of the bigger problems that most don’t know about as this will make people think twice before buying an imported vehicle.
            On average, if you buy an imported vehicle it’s share of the transport method (shipping) to land it here equates to 8 times the average pollutant output of that vehicle.
            Local manufacturing in all it’s forms need to be supported as buying Australian made product (vehicles) means that you are being environmentally friendly and supporting local jobs.

    • Phil

      I was on the understanding that most Australian cars were produced in South Australia and transported to market by semi-trailer. Thus Australian cars sold in Sydney were brought in at a rate of just 5-at-a-time on the back of a semi?
      There’s no way that would have the per car/km efficiency of bringing thousands of cars in one go, on a single enourmous ship. Of course the imported cars cover more distance, but at a lower consumption rate.

      Also, unlike most import manufactuers who make the engine and car in the same location, Ford and Holden produce their engines in seperate factorys. Holden’s engine plant isn’t even in the same state!. This adds more transport pollution as more trucks have to cart the engines around before the cars in question are even completed.

  • Locky

    Hi again John,

    Here is a link to the official report that will also help you approach the media regarding this farce we are currently in.

    Please forward to Tony Abbott’s office, if he really wants to make a change, then start tackling the real issues to reduce pollution.

    http://www.slideshare.net/Calion/dkgroup-environment-remake-cha-v14

    Honestly, people in government in Australia and around the world are so useless and they think all of us are just so thick and act like sheep. The media is the worst because they hardly ever do real investigative journalism any more, if you want that you gotta find it on the internet.

  • Locky

    And……..people who think by buying the soon to be released electric vehicles are doing mankind a favour, just remmember that these cars are ‘shipped’ here thereby negating any environmental plus and in actual fact contributing to the problem. This is actually noted in the above articles, dare you to report this in your next TV appearance with Today Tonight, c’mon I dare you.

    Buy Australian wherever possible on everything you can from toilet paper to cars, this is how you can make a real change if your serious about it.

    • Devil’s Advocate

      Locky, what about the components of Australian made cars that are shipped over here? Don’t forget that over 30% of components from a Commodore for example come from overseas via a boat. When you look at the sheer volume of Australian made cars it could equate to more “tonnage” being shipped over here from parts suppliers in Asia/US etc than some low volume, “full line” importers…

      • Andrew M

        Devil,

        But there would still be more imported vehicles sold here versus Aussie made one meaning Lockies argument still stands true.

        Perhaps if they stopped dropping the import tax and rather increased it the Commodore might get more of its components made here. Its no secret we cant compete with 3rd world labour.

        I reckon we need a bigger import tax, not a Carbon tax.

        Wayne Swan admitted the Carbon Tax will be the most effective way of controlling the issue.
        In other wards its far easier to tax the heck out of us till we operate in their intended way.
        The government moves us round like little pawns, and they way they do it is either by taxes, of fear tactics like terrorism.

        I reckon a bigger import tax will be better for Aussie jobs and will reduce the amount of polluting ships docking on our shores.
        But unfortunately the government finds higher priority in looking good to other countries by throwing its doors open to anyone and anything

        • Locky

          Andrew M, you are absolutely spot on with both your points

          1. Shipping is the biggest polluter by far, swap a carbon tax for a higher import tax as this will help reduce pollution
          2. A higher import tax on vehicles (to start with) will make our falcons, commodores, camrys, aurions and lately cruzes much more competitive against cheap chinese crap. BUT, they still must keep moving forward with reduced SOX & NOX (particulate matter) e.g. CNG & LPG LPI versions of all models.
          3. Increased viability of local manufacturing is the end result and especially for components suppliers to the big three, once again, more jobs.

          • Devil’s Advocate

            I fully know that Locky and Andrew M, I am not denying anything that is being said and agree that something neeeds to be done. I am more just highlighting that even buying Australian Assembled doesn’t mean that we fix the problem totally. I wouldn’t be a “Devil’s Advocate” if I didn’t bring this up. It had the result of furthering the discussion!

          • Andrew M

            Devil,
            Even if we stopped all emissions tomorrow it wouldnt revert any changes in the worlds inevitable cyclic changes in climate.

            Scientists believe climate change exist, but dig deeper and see if you will find any that truely believe humans have caused it or can revert any changes

  • Karl

    John, any chance of getting a global comparison of countries emissions standards?
    I know Europe is at euro 5, but what about North America etc?

  • Mark

    I get your point John, Euro 5 should be introduced long ago, and we only have GM, Ford and Toyota manufactures here, none of them are euro car makers, and is that why they won’t build more environmentally friendly engines? And John, how about Japanese and north america domestic market, are they using this euro 5 standards ? My point is if USA and Canada are not doing it , we shouldn’t move in that quickly, because we three countries are somehow very similar , wide border, big capital cities, lots of country towns, modern living styles, Japanese car companies and big us three are dominating the market. If they are not doing this standards yet, why should we? Maybe we should more concentrating on LPG technology or hybrid cars? Millions of dollars are given away to Toyota and Holden, I aspect to see some results.

  • Mark

    And sorry for my conflicted thoughts , on the one hand after reading your article, I feel like we should bring this standard long time ago, on the other hand , feel like we Australian should have more think about this laws, will they hurt our economy and damage our consumer ? And are those politicians really know what they are doing?

  • Manual

    Maybe HSV and FPV could branch out and start new brands that research and build fuel efficient vehicles instead of V8 guzzlers and keep the R & D in Australia. HSV could have a new brand HUF, Hardly Uses Fuel,or FPV could start FEV, Ford Economical Vehicles.

  • http://caradvice Onepoppa

    Let us be straight about one thing – Australia is doing no more than play catch up. All Australian manufacturers – GMH, Ford and Toyota have models overseas which have complied for years with all the ” new” regulations, so if they wanted to or had been made they could long ago have produced compliant models without the taxpayer having to chip in.

    The Japanese makers all want to use Thai sourced products to make more money, but could bring much lower emission cars both petrols and diesels from their European factories if they had to.

  • DogzOwn

    Addendum to recent comment – some ports require that ships use shore power rather than run their own generators. In Victoria, with electricity from brown coal, especially from Hazelwood, it’s likely that pollution will be worse than ship power.

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    nice article john,

    mind telling us exactly what diesel engine vehicles sold in australia don’t currently come with diesel particulate filters as standard???…

    • Jerrycan

      My wife’s 4 year old Skoda Octavia 1.9D does not have a particulate filter and neither does my 1 year old Hyundai Santa Fe R.
      Both are capable of producing embarrasing amounts of smoke (especially the skoda) if too much throttle is applied when pulling away with a cold engine (Yeh, I know diesels don’t have throttles, but you know what I mean).
      It just means I avoid that situation and no ones knows any different. I thought they had filters when I bought them and in fact was told that by the salespersons in both cases.
      I am very interested in installing a supplementary LPG injection system in either as it supposed to substantially reduce both particulates and Nox as well as improve power/economy. However I believe these only kick in when the engine is fully heated and not when they are most needed. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether this system is worth the money?
      When the occasional well preserved car from the 60′s or 70′s goes by, that familiar non-catalytic odour reminds me of the bad old days and wouldn’t like to go back to that sort of emission environment.
      Mark you three of my neighbours have wood fires, each of which emits more pollutants than 200 modern cars according to an expert on the radio today…and I believe it.

  • MrQuick

    As much as I welcome these measures, ultimately they’re a load of crap.
    These measures are a triumph of politics over science, politicians setting standards which should inherently be set by scientists, but simply aren’t.

    Current standards don’t even address CO2 emissions, only CO emissions.

    Further, emissions of vehicles are tested on a standardised test cycle, which in turn means that manufacturers are manipulating ecu parameters in order to meet the standards as they know exactly what the test cycle is, ultimately not making many real gains in efficiency, the biggest one is throttle response which is frankly becoming horrible in new cars.

    As good as the regulations are, there is much more scope to improve them. Then again, that’s an European issue considering how we are simply harmonising with foreign standards.

  • Biker

    Every kilogram of liquid fuel produces just under 2.5 kg of CO2.
    Every 100 grams of chocolate makes you gain 1 kilogram.

    Probably explains why I failed science, since I understood that you cannot add mass by breaking down a substance in its individual elements.

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ John Cadogan

      G’day Biker,

      I’ve had this chat 100 times with people who don’t get this. Two things go in engines: fuel and air – for a reason. Essentially, fuel plus oxygen from air produces CO2 + h2o + energy. So when it comes to CO2, the C comes from the fuel (C weighs 12 relative to other elements) the O2 comes from air (O2 weighs 32 relative to other elements) so every 12 grams of carbon in the fuel latches onto 32 grams of oxygen from air to make CO2.

      So while it seems the small amount of fuel makes a big contribution to CO2, that’s really because more than 2/3rds of the mass of CO2 produced is being contributed by air – luckily something you don’t have to pay for (but only because the government hasn’t figured out a way to tax air … yet.

      CO2 weighs 44 – and only 12 of that actually comes from the fuel. The rest is oxygen from air.

      This is chemistry 101, mate. But I can certainly understand why many people are confused by it. As for the fat V chocolate debate … can’t help you with that.

      Sincerely,

      John Cadogan
      Editor

      • Biker

        Ok, so the C in the fuel (already taxed) binds with the O in the air (free) to make the CO2 (being taxed again).

        To me it looks like the government now did find a way.

  • macca

    some manuafacturers are now incorporating an ECU ‘burn’ into their filters. ie, if no normal regeneration occurs (as the car is only driven on short low-speed drives), then the ECU recognises the filter is getting clogged and runs hotter exhaust gases to initiate the burn even at low speed.

    • daniel

      If I recall correctly the 2.0L Diesel engine BMW slap into everything does that. I think it says in the manual that ever 1000km’s the engine might seem to run rough/at a higher idle speed for a litle while.

      I wouldn’t mind it if you guys named and shamed those cars without particle filtration. I know I wouldn’t buy a Diesel unless it had one. I can assume the Golf TDI doesn’t have one. Every time I am behind one and it boots it, there’s a cloud of black soot

  • Chris

    What a load of crap. So we lagged on Euro 5. With our sub 1 mil per year market, big deal. And the health system arguement? This is the same one run by the anti smoking lobby. Last time I checked, the health system was there for ALL of us! Who gives a s**t what the Europeans do? Look how their economies run…Follow the Asian trend, ie dont red tape your industies to death. btw love the emotive “Exhibit A – Shangai: the reason why” What Oz city has the population density of Shanghai?
    Will making Oz compliance costs (even) more prohibitive accomplish anything? This is more of the same smoke and mirrors BS that is trying to get us to buy Julia’s carbon tax scam. JC you were a lot more useful when trying to point out the State goverments revenue raising policies….

  • Andrew

    I’m surprised that John is pro Euro 5 in this story. I would have thought that his opinion is that this is another example of the “nanny state” restricting his freedom to act selfishly.

  • Frostie

    If the Falcon’s Inline-6 Euro 4 compliant engine is married to a electric motor (i.e. making it hybrid). Will it become Euro 5 compliant?

  • don owers

    Interesting, the health savings for modifying vehicle emissions are substantial, yet there is no equivalent monitoring of the impact from coal combustion or mining