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		<title>By: summerschool</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12258/greener-civic-hybrid-fleet-for-queensland/#comment-108572</link>
		<dc:creator>summerschool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good point Turbodewd

hv they consider lpg gas run cars? we are selling gas to Japan and China at stupid price...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point Turbodewd</p>
<p>hv they consider lpg gas run cars? we are selling gas to Japan and China at stupid price&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Turbodewd</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/12258/greener-civic-hybrid-fleet-for-queensland/#comment-108459</link>
		<dc:creator>Turbodewd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an Australian govt to buy overseas vehicles is unAustralian.  Its treason.  The idea is good but why cant they plant a million trees instead.  Buy Australian pls Premier Bligh.  (what a traitor she is)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an Australian govt to buy overseas vehicles is unAustralian.  Its treason.  The idea is good but why cant they plant a million trees instead.  Buy Australian pls Premier Bligh.  (what a traitor she is)</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jbot - Andrew isn&#039;t stupid, he&#039;s just a visionary, right? OK so maybe a dreamer then..........Andrew? Back me up here buddy.........Andrew?
Maybe its just a marketing decision not to release it hey Andrew? Mate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jbot &#8211; Andrew isn&#8217;t stupid, he&#8217;s just a visionary, right? OK so maybe a dreamer then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Andrew? Back me up here buddy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Andrew?<br />
Maybe its just a marketing decision not to release it hey Andrew? Mate?</p>
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		<title>By: jbot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M, your stupidity continues to amuse me. 

210kw
425nm
and the biggest one……..
9.2L/100k @ 68 cents per litre

Its not going to happen. Get over it. You cannot simply add to the power and torque figures because the fuel has a higher kJ/g value. There are so many more factors which come into engine design which neither you nor I understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M, your stupidity continues to amuse me. </p>
<p>210kw<br />
425nm<br />
and the biggest one……..<br />
9.2L/100k @ 68 cents per litre</p>
<p>Its not going to happen. Get over it. You cannot simply add to the power and torque figures because the fuel has a higher kJ/g value. There are so many more factors which come into engine design which neither you nor I understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 05:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TP
Diesel is worse for the environment? That entirely depends on your argument. Diesel produces less CO2 emissions than petrol engines, and if you go off the Prius Vs BMW 5 article, it still consumes less fuel. Add new technology and particulate filters, their particulate output is very small. Considering global warming is THE current environmental issue I would suggest that diesels are a better interim solution for the environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TP<br />
Diesel is worse for the environment? That entirely depends on your argument. Diesel produces less CO2 emissions than petrol engines, and if you go off the Prius Vs BMW 5 article, it still consumes less fuel. Add new technology and particulate filters, their particulate output is very small. Considering global warming is THE current environmental issue I would suggest that diesels are a better interim solution for the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on ya Anna! (I still reakon she should be in radio!)
Meanwhile the rest of the governments fleet are big, heavy and thirsty cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on ya Anna! (I still reakon she should be in radio!)<br />
Meanwhile the rest of the governments fleet are big, heavy and thirsty cars.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the problem Andrew too many dummies and too many missed opportunities.

Too many people getting paid too much with way too little brain power.

Talk about balance of payments and trade deficits what an ideal way to reduce these? Send it to China for nothing and pay through the nose to import oil. Then buy a Hybrid for your Government department and claim you&#039;ve done stokes!!!

Bloody idiots mate and that&#039;s why we are neck deep in chinese consumer goods that last five minutes and local manufacturing is in the shitter.

The idiots running our Industry and Governments cannot get their collective heads around more than one concept at a time.

Now China once again is buying up our resource companies with bullshit chinese companies backed 100% by the Chinese government. They tried it a while ago with American oil producers and the Yanks wouldn&#039;t wear it and rightly so.

Now Swan is reportedly entertaining the idea. Bloody hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the problem Andrew too many dummies and too many missed opportunities.</p>
<p>Too many people getting paid too much with way too little brain power.</p>
<p>Talk about balance of payments and trade deficits what an ideal way to reduce these? Send it to China for nothing and pay through the nose to import oil. Then buy a Hybrid for your Government department and claim you&#8217;ve done stokes!!!</p>
<p>Bloody idiots mate and that&#8217;s why we are neck deep in chinese consumer goods that last five minutes and local manufacturing is in the shitter.</p>
<p>The idiots running our Industry and Governments cannot get their collective heads around more than one concept at a time.</p>
<p>Now China once again is buying up our resource companies with bullshit chinese companies backed 100% by the Chinese government. They tried it a while ago with American oil producers and the Yanks wouldn&#8217;t wear it and rightly so.</p>
<p>Now Swan is reportedly entertaining the idea. Bloody hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just to settle a few scores,

civic is as ugly as the prius,
Peter Beatie was a better looking premier than Annah Bleigh

Realcars,
i agree mate
i think ford has missed a big shot with the E-gas falcon.
yes its still great, but they could have made it a massive hit if they werent so lazy.

they could have easily thrown in a vapour system and offered something other than the 4sp auto.
also once they did that, they could have thrown out all their marketing staff and got some people who are keen to sell stuff and appreciate their jobs a little more.
i mean what they could have done if they had have followed my ideas is create an E-Gas falcon with a decent vapour system and 6sp auto that would stack up like this........
210kw
425nm
and the biggest one........
9.2L/100k @ 68 cents per litre
i mean how dumb would you have to be if you couldnt sell that????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to settle a few scores,</p>
<p>civic is as ugly as the prius,<br />
Peter Beatie was a better looking premier than Annah Bleigh</p>
<p>Realcars,<br />
i agree mate<br />
i think ford has missed a big shot with the E-gas falcon.<br />
yes its still great, but they could have made it a massive hit if they werent so lazy.</p>
<p>they could have easily thrown in a vapour system and offered something other than the 4sp auto.<br />
also once they did that, they could have thrown out all their marketing staff and got some people who are keen to sell stuff and appreciate their jobs a little more.<br />
i mean what they could have done if they had have followed my ideas is create an E-Gas falcon with a decent vapour system and 6sp auto that would stack up like this&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
210kw<br />
425nm<br />
and the biggest one&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
9.2L/100k @ 68 cents per litre<br />
i mean how dumb would you have to be if you couldnt sell that????</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the delay on esp in the corolla was the fact that they were having trouble setting it up for aust conditions, so they had to wait.  the only thing that is stopping a aust camry hybrid is the government and their lack of commit to it as toyota is up for it but they have said it is in their court.  also have you seen the alloys on the civic hybrid they are the most ugly things you have ever seen!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the delay on esp in the corolla was the fact that they were having trouble setting it up for aust conditions, so they had to wait.  the only thing that is stopping a aust camry hybrid is the government and their lack of commit to it as toyota is up for it but they have said it is in their court.  also have you seen the alloys on the civic hybrid they are the most ugly things you have ever seen!!</p>
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		<title>By: Myke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supporter of Toyota Motorsport,
If you read what I said clearly, I stated that Toyota do have diesels but only in 4WDs and commercials vehicles, I&#039;m talking about their pure passenger lineup, vehicles like the Corolla, Aurion, Camry etc.

Toyota Australia have one hybrid in their lineup, Lexus obviously have a wider choice of hybrids for ~$90,000 and up. The Prius by itself, in the immediate Toyota lineup is not enough to justify that it has wide choice of hybrids. 

Yes the Epica doesn&#039;t have ESP, but it is hardly selling at the same rate as the Corolla. The Barina is a definite mistake, but I have a feeling it will be short-lived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supporter of Toyota Motorsport,<br />
If you read what I said clearly, I stated that Toyota do have diesels but only in 4WDs and commercials vehicles, I&#8217;m talking about their pure passenger lineup, vehicles like the Corolla, Aurion, Camry etc.</p>
<p>Toyota Australia have one hybrid in their lineup, Lexus obviously have a wider choice of hybrids for ~$90,000 and up. The Prius by itself, in the immediate Toyota lineup is not enough to justify that it has wide choice of hybrids. </p>
<p>Yes the Epica doesn&#8217;t have ESP, but it is hardly selling at the same rate as the Corolla. The Barina is a definite mistake, but I have a feeling it will be short-lived.</p>
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