Comments on: 2.5 million Toyotas built in Australia http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/ Resource for Car Reviews, News, Advice, Road Tests, Green Cars, Hybrids Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: PoisonEagle http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70572 PoisonEagle Fri, 02 May 2008 18:15:31 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70572 'Reality' or should I say- Dingbat: Comparing BMW to Toyota only demonstrates your cranial haemorrhage- BMW represents exclusivity, fine driving cars, Toyota has a (deteriorating) reputation of reliabilty to trade on (which it does succesfully) which of the two badges has more s*x (damn censor) appeal? Supra (my chariot), 1jz, 2jz, 1uz, ae86, Chaser are all legends but none of that was officially sold here. Fact is, Toyota Austrlaia has only offloaded BORING (read: none of these) cars to suckers and made a mint from it. It takes a really 'special' person to foam over these offerings. Get real. Hooray for mediocrity= It gives perspective to people with a clue. ‘Reality’ or should I say- Dingbat: Comparing BMW to Toyota only demonstrates your cranial haemorrhage- BMW represents exclusivity, fine driving cars, Toyota has a (deteriorating) reputation of reliabilty to trade on (which it does succesfully) which of the two badges has more s*x (damn censor) appeal? Supra (my chariot), 1jz, 2jz, 1uz, ae86, Chaser are all legends but none of that was officially sold here. Fact is, Toyota Austrlaia has only offloaded BORING (read: none of these) cars to suckers and made a mint from it. It takes a really ‘special’ person to foam over these offerings. Get real. Hooray for mediocrity= It gives perspective to people with a clue.

]]> By: Bavarian Missile http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70562 Bavarian Missile Fri, 02 May 2008 13:51:26 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70562 There's a market for everything.........just like music! Have to be in the mood for it at the time! Me listening to Leona Lewis from the Big W........very romantic like him! Then I had ACDC cranked up in the M3 this arvo......and I love my jazz, Ella Fitzgerald is the queen! Cars are the same! Like the song says from Leona. " Here I am " There’s a market for everything………just like music! Have to be in the mood for it at the time!

Me listening to Leona Lewis from the Big W……..very romantic like him! Then I had ACDC cranked up in the M3 this arvo……and I love my jazz, Ella Fitzgerald is the queen! Cars are the same!

Like the song says from Leona.
” Here I am “

]]> By: Bavarian Missile http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70557 Bavarian Missile Fri, 02 May 2008 13:12:50 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70557 So I take it Anthony C is Tony C ??? Not what I would have expected from him if thats the case! Mr Crawford I guess thats not you? So I take it Anthony C is Tony C ??? Not what I would have expected from him if thats the case! Mr Crawford I guess thats not you?

]]> By: No Name http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70086 No Name Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:41:19 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70086 Exactly my point Joober Thanks. Whilst on that one how many cars did Australian buy last year? Its simply not worth developing specific cars for a minority market. So Australians have to live with either have to live with cheaper Asian cars (Daewoos) Japanese (OK cars) or slightly more expensive cars (superior ha ha) European cars. Exactly my point Joober Thanks. Whilst on that one how many cars did Australian buy last year? Its simply not worth developing specific cars for a minority market. So Australians have to live with either have to live with cheaper Asian cars (Daewoos) Japanese (OK cars) or slightly more expensive cars (superior ha ha) European cars.

]]> By: Joober http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70084 Joober Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:01:39 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70084 yep thats right No Name, we who post on this board are enthusiasts and most likely only represent what... 5% population, when we start bagging something e.g. like Toyota, IMO its almost like the classical music lovers bagging the pop music majortiy people and reckon they have no taste in their music because the music lacks substance, beauty in comparison. yep thats right No Name, we who post on this board are enthusiasts and most likely only represent what… 5% population, when we start bagging something e.g. like Toyota, IMO its almost like the classical music lovers bagging the pop music majortiy people and reckon they have no taste in their music because the music lacks substance, beauty in comparison.

]]> By: Naughtyius Maximus http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70083 Naughtyius Maximus Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:58:24 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70083 So Yaris and Prius gets awards and Corolla does not. Yet with smart marketting and the fact Toyota have 2 other small cars in Yaris and Prius with awards....this tends to push up rest of Toyota's range. So Yaris and Prius gets awards and Corolla does not. Yet with smart marketting and the fact Toyota have 2 other small cars in Yaris and Prius with awards….this tends to push up rest of Toyota’s range.

]]> By: Naughtyius Maximus http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70082 Naughtyius Maximus Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:55:27 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70082 The reason Toyota do well is they have solid cars in range and some do get top of tree and get awards. They then improve or update regularly and still up near top in class. It is this philosophy together with cars that are consistently top of class and they drag other cars in range up that are not top of class as Toyota renowned for solid performers (albeit boring lookers). The reason Toyota do well is they have solid cars in range and some do get top of tree and get awards. They then improve or update regularly and still up near top in class. It is this philosophy together with cars that are consistently top of class and they drag other cars in range up that are not top of class as Toyota renowned for solid performers (albeit boring lookers).

]]> By: No Name http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70081 No Name Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:43:24 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70081 Hi Emya - you make a point that the Aussie lacks imagination. I personally agree with that but ad the average Aussie. No one here talking in detail is really an 'average' person they are more fanatical. Take Holden situation. everyone likes the Euro bit so Holden bring in a few Euro cars, the Vectra, the Astra, the Barina (Corsa based). The Vectra was discontinued due to poor sales, the Astra is doing reasonably well but not totally loved up, the Barina was chopped in favour of the Deawoo. The Vectra was replaced by a Deawoo, again none of these are loved. Seems to me the 'average' Australian is indeed difficult to satisfy. Guess they all want mini Commodors and Falcons. Now they buy reliable Corollas that are cheap to repair. Hi Emya – you make a point that the Aussie lacks imagination. I personally agree with that but ad the average Aussie. No one here talking in detail is really an ‘average’ person they are more fanatical.
Take Holden situation. everyone likes the Euro bit so Holden bring in a few Euro cars, the Vectra, the Astra, the Barina (Corsa based). The Vectra was discontinued due to poor sales, the Astra is doing reasonably well but not totally loved up, the Barina was chopped in favour of the Deawoo. The Vectra was replaced by a Deawoo, again none of these are loved. Seems to me the ‘average’ Australian is indeed difficult to satisfy. Guess they all want mini Commodors and Falcons. Now they buy reliable Corollas that are cheap to repair.

]]> By: Joober http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70079 Joober Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:25:56 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70079 Toyota cars are average and attract the average buyer who want to get to A to B which is the majority of people, as you probably know the market is a bell curve. As Andrew said its cars are mid packed (most likely on purpose) attracting middle curved buyers. To illustrate how many camrys/Aurions, have aftermarket rims, done up in some way as compared to the number commo's, Falcons etc. The people who choose a Toyota are generally people who are not into cars ala average joe, and given Toyota's rep as reliable you can see why its high on the pick. Toyota cars are average and attract the average buyer who want to get to A to B which is the majority of people, as you probably know the market is a bell curve. As Andrew said its cars are mid packed (most likely on purpose) attracting middle curved buyers.

To illustrate how many camrys/Aurions, have aftermarket rims, done up in some way as compared to the number commo’s, Falcons etc. The people who choose a Toyota are generally people who are not into cars ala average joe, and given Toyota’s rep as reliable you can see why its high on the pick.

]]> By: reality http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70078 reality Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:24:47 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/12241/25-million-toyotas-built-in-australia/#comment-70078 Maybe by placing the cars they make in the middle of the pack is what allows Toyota to sell so many cars. Being the best for one reason or another will always engender some kind of compromise that alienates a large proportion of buyers. Take BMW as an example. Great cars in most respects but most reviewers complain that ride on anything but the smoothest roads, a rarity in Australia, is a pain due to the run flats. Throw in a price that is fairly steep and a long list of expensive options and most people, who don't have the dough, will not even look at it. On the other side of the price scale are the cheap brands from Korea. They are great value, no question, but they still suffer from the same stigma that Toyota suffered from back in the seventies ie not built to last. Probably undeserved now but they will just have to let time pass to prove themselves like Toyota has. By straddling both ends of the scale, Toyota covers a larger area of buyer demographics. Who knows for how long this will remain the case but love them or hate them, they are where they are because they did something right. Maybe by placing the cars they make in the middle of the pack is what allows Toyota to sell so many cars. Being the best for one reason or another will always engender some kind of compromise that alienates a large proportion of buyers. Take BMW as an example. Great cars in most respects but most reviewers complain that ride on anything but the smoothest roads, a rarity in Australia, is a pain due to the run flats. Throw in a price that is fairly steep and a long list of expensive options and most people, who don’t have the dough, will not even look at it. On the other side of the price scale are the cheap brands from Korea. They are great value, no question, but they still suffer from the same stigma that Toyota suffered from back in the seventies ie not built to last. Probably undeserved now but they will just have to let time pass to prove themselves like Toyota has. By straddling both ends of the scale, Toyota covers a larger area of buyer demographics. Who knows for how long this will remain the case but love them or hate them, they are where they are because they did something right.

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