Just imagine what the 380 could have been like if former CEO Tom Phillips got his way with Tokyo and the 380 was RWD?

the only reason an LPG vehicle will return 15L is because it is either duel fuel, or it is running the old school system.

there is actually greater performance and economy potential with LPG

The 380 was not built for us aussies it was build for the american market and designed by the yanks! You know the Mitsubishi Galant dont you?

Richo, and Reckless.
since when did petrol have a 70 cent excise placed on it?

even if you throw all the taxes you can think of at LPG it will still be cheaper than petrol.
if you want to cover your load, opt for the canopy. Simple.

the latest tech LPG system fitted in the optimal dedicated set up, should return better fuel economy and power figures than a petrol equivalent.

it is yours and others like you guys misconceptions of the LPG fuel that has ensured other manufacturers have not offered it on a larger scale

Imagine if they did make a 380 ute! Or if Toyota made a Aurion Ute! It would look weird!

O oh! Ive given toyota ideas……….

Looked at the Caddy [inc. the new maxi model]its nowhere

NO NO NO the Caddy is more expensive to fuel, didnt you even bother to calculate it?

Using YOUR price and figures:

Caddy 6L/100km [uses more than that, be around 7.5 realworld]x$1.70= $10.20 [Really is 7.5L x $1.60 =$12]

Falcon [factory figures]15.1L/100km x.60 = $9.06 [Act my realword 14L/100x.60 = $8.40]

Mine is still tight but its down to 14L/100km x.60 =$8.40

So WORST case the Falcon is $1.14 per 100km cheaper, but really its $3.60 in the REALWORLD not on paper

CADDY -

1/To expensive

2/Gutless

3/To small

4/Falcon have a canopy and also tarp

5/Falcon tows 1600kg

5/400 dealers Aussie wide

6/No 3 seater

7/Noise and FWD rubbish

Falcon ALL the way [NOT with L.B.J!]

Cheers

F-0

And when did i say LPG was not taxed AT ALL? I said it wasn’t taxed as heavily as petrol, and even after the excise has increased it will still be taxed dramatically less then petrol, which i assure you accounts for a significant portion of the price difference! Not all of it no, however taxed equally the difference between petrol and LPG prices at the bowser would be eaten up by the reduced fuel economy you get with LPG. Therefore, in MY opinion, LPG is only the solution for so long as it is taxed much more favourably then petrol. There is definetly no guarantee that this will be the case forever!

And yes the caddy will keep your load dry, but thats still not the point, the falcon is car with a completely different market to the caddy, it’s pointless attempting to compare them. One is a ute, the other is a small van. One can carry a tonne, one can’t. The Caddy is a car i rate very highly as a work car, but that’s not to say it is appropriate for builders who may have to carry gravel or sand etc, same as a ute isn’t appropriate for alot of couriers who carry things that cannot get wet. Different markets mate!

Your better off arguing that a diesel hilux is a more cost effective ute then a falcon ute, which it probably is, but trying to argue that a small van is a better then a ute is only true for people who want a small van! People who are in the market for a ute are not interested in a small van, just the same as how people in the market for a small van are not in the market for a ute! therefore they are un-comparable cars. It would be like trying to compare a kia rio to a jeep wrangler, compeltely difference cars!

The Falcon may have a bigger payload, but it can’t keep its load dry.

Your second post seems to have the aim of ridiculing me when I say the cost of LPG will rise to about 50% of the cost of petrol, and then goes on to support my contention that it will rise. You need to stop smoking, – LPG is not “only cheaper because it is taxed less”. Bret correctly points out that there is already a plan (created by Howard) for slapping extra excise on LPG. But you would have known that, wouldn’t you?????

2. Tax on LPG; the phased introduction of this (excise) is well known and published on the relevant govt. website. There is no hidden agenda, it’s documented:

“The excise rates to apply to LPG used in internal combustion engines will be 2.5 cents per litre
from 1 July 2011 increasing in five equal annual steps to 12.5 cents per litre from 1 July 2015.” – Dept Industry, Tourism & Resources.

A Caddy van using 6.0 of diesel at $1.70 is still cheaper to run than a Falcon ute on LPG, and a lot cheaper to buy as well. Plus all your cargo stays dry …..

The Falcon and Commodore are yet to feel the squeeze, have no fear its coming…..

Ok all the same…LPG is the anwser, staring you right in the face~!

Cheers

F-0

Please don’t show your ignorance by suggesting that this is an inflated price for this car, i guarantee it will be worth alot more in the future.