FG Falcon FPV official power figures
14 Apr, 2008
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Our predictions were right, FPV has today released official power figures associated with their new FG FPV range.
Arguably the flagship of the FG FPV range will be the F6 310. Powered by Ford’s turbocharged inline-6 cylinder motor, the engine will produce some 310kW at 5500RPM and a face-altering 565Nm of torque at 5200RPM.
The increase of 40kW over the previous F6 Typhoon will surely make this one of the quickest Australian passenger cars on the market. Getting this power to the ground though could be an issue.
Our previous drive of the BF FPV Typhoon revealed that the car’s 270kW was reaching the limits of the tyre’s adhesion at the peak end of the rev range. At a recent lunch though, one of Ford’s leading V888 Supercar drivers confirmed to CarAdvice that grip “wouldn’t be an issue.”
At the other end of the ring, the FPV GT will feature an upgraded version of its 5.4-litre BOSS unit. An increase of 13kW places the GT at 315kW at 6500RPM, while producing an impressive 551Nm of torque (yes, just 1Nm more torque than HSV’s new LS3 motor).
To achieve the F6’s extra power, Ford engineers have used a strengthened piston design, along with an increase in intercooler size and greater boost. Ford’s Rod Barrett has said:
“The F6 is an amazing car with performance equal or better to many European sports cars, but at a fraction of the price. Those who enjoy taking their vehicles to track days are going to really benefit from this car.”
CarAdvice looks forward to taking Mr Barrett’s comments to heart once the FPV range is released to the public in June.
2008 Ford FPV F6
2008 Ford FPV GT
2008 Ford FPV Super Pursuit
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April 14th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
SUCKED IN DUCK!!!! The F6 will be 310KW, no 300KW! :P
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April 14th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
I found the XR8 a disappointment for a V8 car. If the GT looked exactly the same as an F6, it would be just as much a disappointment, particularly no more power than it’s HSV rival. “Oh…..But it has one more torque than HSV and torque does more than KW” The GT is are heaver than the HSV’s, so just one extra torque won’t do anything. As a V8 fan, I hope I’m yet for a surprise just before this is released.
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April 14th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Oz, its only because i read 300kw in a magazine (WHEELS).
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April 14th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
But you believed it didn’t you Duck?
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April 14th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Looks like I’m buying HSV’s from now on, the GT is now officially a joke and not worth the extra money you pay for the GT badge..
From what I’ve heard from relatives in the U.S. the LS3 is hugely better engine to modify then the out going LS2…
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Your american henry.
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Oz, id did because it was “WHEELS”
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
man this has to be the only blog in the world to have an entire screen load of of blogs about ford falcons..
anyway … is it just me or do KW just not sound impressive… i say go with the flow of the rest of the world and use HP.
and for a turbo4lt 6 its about time we start to see some impressive numbers.
cookie
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Is there a reason why the Boss V8’s didn’t reach or better the original prediction of 320KW?
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
oz the new gt’s kw’s are begin calculated the same way hsv do there not the same way fpv used to for example the old gt’s boss 290 was 276kw by hsv standards so the new boss is 315kw by hsv standards so i could be 320 + by the old standards and the big change was getting the boss to rev the red zone is at 6500rpm now and all thoughts NM come in earlier so there rev right across the range the new boss will be alot better that the 290 or 302
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
well guys… once again ford has forgotten our proud performance heritage with the GT…… the F6 is great but shouldnt the GT be our ultimate performance car???
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Oz, possibly for future special editions i suppose or they left some in reserve for improvements for FG MkII or something, who knows?
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
well the boss takes to much work to get all the umpf out of it the next gt in 2010 will be alot quicker with the 6.2 boss
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Ah yes, EscortGHIA’s explanation is probably right.
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Will this 310kW motor end up in the F6X……? Imagine a Territory doing 0-100 in 5’s…..
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
maby with the next F6X because the F6X just got realesed
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
any ideas on kerb weight?????
from memory the BA-BF Falcon Turbos weighed 1850kg’s!
to heavy for my liking!
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I was actaually expecting more torque for the F6 only 15nM more with an increase of 40+ kw.
I say 40+ as in the previous F6 they always produced more power then was stated.
I was really thinking FPV were going to get that boss to 320+ but it just didnt happen.
I guess HSV if you want a V8 and now the FPV for a T6.
These FPV’s look better in yellow/orange though sets it off nicely.
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
So what if the F6 is quicker than the GT.
It should be - a lighter car with more torque.
FPV will sell plenty of sixes and V8s.
There is healthy demand for both.
Remember how HSV went with their last performance 6 cyl- the XU6 - 180kW/380Nm - Auto only - pretty lame by today’s standards.
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April 14th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
the ba - bf turbo where 1850 and the gt was 1855 weight way have gone up 20 kg
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
atomic it’s like i said before
” oz the new gt’s kw’s are begin calculated the same way hsv do there not the same way fpv used to for example the old gt’s boss 290 was 276kw by hsv standards so the new boss is 315kw by hsv standards so i could be 320 + by the old standards and the big change was getting the boss to rev the red zone is at 6500rpm now and all thoughts NM come in earlier so there rev right across the range the new boss will be alot better that the 290 or 302″.
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
HAHA PABLO!!!!!!
THE XU6!!!!!!!!!
I completely forgot about that, what an insignificant car that was.
It would be nice if holden would have the balls to build a big alloy 6. I guess they have surprised us before but im not counting on it one bit.
but the xu6!!!!! What a dud!
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
atomic it’s like i said before
” oz the new gt’s kw’s are begin calculated the same way hsv do there not the same way fpv used to for example the old gt’s boss 290 was 276kw by hsv standards so the new boss is 315kw by hsv standards so i could be 320 + by the old standards and the big change was getting the boss to rev the red zone is at 6500rpm now and all thoughts NM come in earlier so there rev right across the range the new boss will be alot better that the 290 or 302″.
Yeah i understand that.
I just thought HSV reverted to the DIN measurement when they released the E-Series the same that Ford and FPV measure by. DIN being the higher measurement which caused HSV much dissaproval. This is as with the Z series:
297 Kw ECE LS2 i think it was.
307 Kw DIN LS2
297 in the Z-series measurement actually equates to 305 kw DIN so from the VZ to VE they increased power by 2kw in a way. Which has now changed with LS3 to a better increase.
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
HHHHEEEELLLLL YYYEEEEAAAHHHH! 310KW for the mighty F6. Rot in hell HSV!!!
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
1870kg is ridiculous - one heavy suka
525nm is good though… my mate had a XR6T with 1100nm and 330rwKw which prooves they are still detuned to a certain extent
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
OMG that is awsome cant wait to get my F6!!!
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
I’m happy to see that the F6 is gonna have 310 kw I better start saving money.
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
dont the xr6t have overboost or something giving it more torque or something like that. and the launch control to get blistering starts. fg f6 should do 0-100 in sub-5 sec territory. smash the hsv and challenge the BMW M3
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
well the gts is 1845 to compar it to the bf witch was 1855
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
does the torque rpm seem a bit high. wasnt the bfs 2000-4500rpm. it must plateo then pick again
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
We just have to wait and see how well the GT stacks up against the HSV. I know some of these power figures written on the cars are probably just hot air, so maybe I’m wrong about my ‘disappointment’. I’ll just have to wait and see.
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April 14th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
F6 0-100 in, let’s say 4.7
Hey everyone bagging the GT before it’s release wait till it comes out and test drive don’t slag it off based on published kw. Real world performance is impossible to measure without real world testing. The system for FPV measuring kw has changed so the figure (not that it should matter) is probably around the 330 mark by old system. Happy idiots!
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April 14th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
not to mention the engine revs t 6500 insted of 5900
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April 14th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Also most performance rice burners are quicker around the track than any HSV or FPV (stock) so if you want pure strait line or track performance buy an EVO if you want muscle then buy one of the aforementioned. People have to be realistic these are family cars with enormous engines that’s it. How much performance can anyone expect these are not race/rally breed or designed machines.
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April 14th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
julian you can take your evo and race it as much as you like because these day commodore and falcons off almost as much grip as your rice burners and look twise as good
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April 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
and where do you think they test the performance of these car gee let me think oh i know a race track
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April 14th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Look I agree, I just think people have to be realistic these are never going to be supercars (well ok given a racing V8). They are fast well built cars for the money but whether they are the best even in this regard is being challenged by buyers going elsewhere in scores. Ford isn’t competing just with Holden anymore it’s competing with Mazda MPS and Golf GTI. It’s not a two horse race.
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April 14th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
it all depends on the track there on while rice burner have an advantage on small tight circuits these thing are grate on big tracks with fast corners
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April 14th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
how could someone in the market for a FPV or HSV could possibly be looking at a golf GTI or MPS6? if you mean and HSV astra then it is justified, but please.. a big V8 or a 4.0 I6T in a family car compared to a hot hatch/4wd mid sized? completely different competition.
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April 14th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Ummm….Julian if you dint know Ford owns Mazda!! And i dont think that an RX8 or an MPS can keep keep up with any XR model, FPV or HSV.
Both cars are great!! They are in a league of there own. The are 2 Kings for the FPV range GT and F6 if your a V8 guy and love sound you get the V8 or if you like the turbo you get the F6 plain and simple, there is no better car, it’s you choice to whats you want and that depends on what kind of driver you are.
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April 15th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Who the hell complains about 2 kw??? Some people on here are just plain S-T-U-P-I-D complaining about the fact the GT is less powerful than the HSV. GET OVER IT. 2 kw is nothing. How about the impressive fact that FPV get a bee’s dick within the much larger V8 (0.8 litres) with both Power & Torque.
Here’s a quick history lessen. The GT was not the flagship model with XW-XY so its never always been on top. And if someone argues the GT-HO is the same, you are kidding. The GT-HO & GT are as different as the current GT and XR8. But so what if the F6 is faster, as long as FPV are on top I dont care which car. The GT is still going to be a helluva machine.
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April 15th, 2008 at 12:25 am
I Agree!!
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April 15th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Is this what HSV are going to brag about? 2kw extra from an engine that is nearly a litre bigger? lol What the hell is 2 kw? NOTHING !! And what have HSV got to match the 310kw F6 ? NOTHING !! What have HSV got that will be faster than the F6? NOTHING !! Are they gonna bring out a 10 litre engine soon? lol
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April 15th, 2008 at 12:47 am
ATOMIC SSV………You are wrong !!!! Let me clear up something here and now. I worked on engine dynos for 10 years so I know what I am talking about. DIN power measurement is the LOWER FIGURE. It is a power curve run with exhaust back pressure and deductions made for the alternator and other engine driven accessories. This is the figure FORD use. The other power curve which results in HIGHER OUTPUT is called a “B” curve. The higher kw reading is achieved because it is run with NO exhaust back pressure and no allowances for accessories. The DIN curve is the real one because it is run with the engine like it is in the car. This is the figure FORD release. This was my job when I worked at Ford.
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April 15th, 2008 at 3:34 am
i thought DIN and the other one ECE are the standards of measurement. Both manufacturers measure power “as installed”, they just use different standards. DIN being the peak power over a minute and ECE is the average power over a minute. I read this somewhere and it sort of clashes with what your saying rogue. It could be what you say, i read it somewhere. But i’m pretty sure that DIN is the optimistic measurement and ECE is the conservative one and the difference between ECE and DIN is around 3%
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:39 am
So like all good news from the boys from FPV… i things is shock that the max torque is up at 5200RPM…saying this it could have 550 @ 2000rpm and slowing increases….. or they have traded some torque for a better top end / power increase… who knows…. i cant wait to see these things in action…
The GT still sounds pretty good…. it has more torque then people were saying - 540Nm… and whats 2kws with 300+ on tap???
and its a improve meant as it revs higher… instead of 5900 its revs to 6500 which should increase speed to…
well the numbers are here, now we just have to wait and see them perform….
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:45 am
Hey guys… got this from Drive.com
”The new Falcon-based F6 is powered by a turbocharged, 4.0-litre inline six-cylinder engine delivering 310kW of power. It also has 565Nm of torque, or mid-range pulling power, available from just 1950rpm ”
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April 15th, 2008 at 8:11 am
If the HSV had 580Nm of torque which it should had like the stock Chev c6 it would own the gt and im sure series two with the tremec tr6060 they will boost it up. The HSV most lilky has 321KW which is the stock LS3 317 is just a good looking number. Rogue its been speculation that holden are working on a V12 at fishermans bend for what for i don’t know 7.2 litres basically two alloytecs 447KW AND 732NM and the engine is going to be used by holden or caddilac as they both helped devolop the alloytec.
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April 15th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Evey time i see oversea W427 articles it says its going to have 570hp? (425kw). I know HSV will boost ip up but i don’t know by how much.
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April 15th, 2008 at 8:52 am
dude.. what about the earth man… so much feul used by these machine… stop driving these machine and use leg power - bicycles. perhaps HSV and FPR should release bicycles with their brand name… 0-10 km/hr in 5 seconds and no emissions…
go greenies…
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April 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
ECE R24 is another standard for measuring net horsepower. It is quite similar to the DIN 70020 standard, but the requirement for connecting an engine’s fan during testing varies. ECE is seen as slightly more liberal than DIN, and ECE figures tend to be slightly higher than DIN
So what i say is right.DIN figures are the “real” ones.
I dont thing i have been doing my job wrong for 10 years !!
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April 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
NOW WE ARE TORQUEN 550NM FROM BOTH MOTORS WELL DONE FPV, IF THE MOTORS DID NOT PROVE THAT THERE STRONG ENOUGH FOR THE JOB THERE WOULD BE NO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AT ALL ,LOOK AT WHERE TICKFORD WAS 1993-1997 WITH THE EBGT 1993 THEN 5 YEARS LATER 1997 ELGT BOTH CARS SAME OUTPUT 200KW.
NOW WITH THE BOSS 5.4 MOTOR BAGT290 NOW THE FGGT315 THERES NO STANDING AROUND WAITING OR WANTING FPV TO LISTEN TO THERE CUSTOMER,
GO FORD
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April 15th, 2008 at 10:24 am
It doesn’t matter how much power you have, the numbers are irelevant. What is relevant is the figures you get on the road.
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April 15th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Now with this further information from FPV why on earth are Ford ditching the I6 ? I am sorry but I just don’t understand. The figures are astounding.
I vote for someone to start a petition to send to Ford OZ to get them to put the I6 back on the agenda after 2010. I will be first to sign it. Great economy and great performance for this so called ‘old’ motor.
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April 15th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
The way of the world we live in now, if its cheaper then must be better even if its not,but for Ford Australia its going to be cheaper ($650.00AU)per motor to import the V6, in the long run to import the V6 from the US is the better option no development costs to do here ever.
Lots of people dont know there are 5 different versions of this motor 3.5Ltr V6 being used now by Ford and Mazda and Volvo its a proven motor and with twin turbos theres a 350KW version already on the cards i believe in the US,
but in the end Emission laws in 2010 is the death of the I6.
This is all part of Ford world wide One Ford program why make 10 version of the same thing.
Now look at holden they import all there LS V8s and yet they sell more V8s then Ford, but Ford still hand build there Boss motors here.
Then there is the uuuummmm Ford 3 Valve boring boring 5.4 220Kw V8 was thursty and gutless/boring but was cheap to import but no one wanted it so its gone 10-20 being installed per month in some Falcons most into the Fairlane and LTD.
IMO AU3 220 XR8 motor was better but was hand built thats more than 6-7 years ago.
GO Ford.
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April 15th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Yes but for me to step backwards in performance seems odd and with these new economy figures with the I6 it seems even stranger. Remember the torque of the I6 now leads its closest rival by 18%. So to step backwards with a v6 doesn’t seem like smart marketing. But I must be dumb.
Go Ford also!!
PS. Twin Turbo the I6 and lets see what happens!!
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April 15th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
it looks just like a Holden!!!
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April 15th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
And the Dumb Comment Award goes to ……
JAMES
for the “I’ve got nothing to say” dribble.
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April 15th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
WOW a whole bunch of comments from a lot of people who really know sweet FA about cars, most of these people have never and will never own a FPV or HSV, but because they own a VL or VN 5 litre they all seem to think that 310KW from a STRAIGHT 6 and 315kw from a AUSTRALIAN BUILT engine is something of a joke! Any wonder I don’t read these comments sections very often too many people who have no idea about cars only opinions, If any of you actually drove a FPV or XR8/6 you would understand how superior the Falcon is a car compared to a Commodore. Ad to the fact that my company has a mix of Ford, Holden,Mitsubishi,Toyota and various others, and after driving all of them ( for over and above 4+ hours straight) the two makes which don’t rattle your teeth out, rupture your spleen, or continually have manufacturer problems, are the FORD and the Toyotas. So to all the tools on here who frequently post absolute GARBAGE on here get your facts straight, and actually open your eyes to what a decent car is and should be! I for one can’t wait to drive/own the new FG as it has already proven to be technologically and safer car then the VE billion dollar disaster has!
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April 15th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
i think ford have done very well to get the same torque from an engine .8 litres smaller then holdens LS3
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April 15th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Hear, Hear, to Dave and Mitch. I too am saving feverishly for my FG FPV F6!!
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April 15th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
BOOOOOOOO,WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP 315 FOR THE GT , shame on you FPV!
Hey Tonyn….too late to change to a F6 for u babe? This sucks big time! Not to mention what you have now is what your stuck with till 2010 in grunt no more upgrades from here,pathetic FPV shame shame shame! They run out of money after the F6 upgrades,at least thats going out with a bang! Go the F6 is all I can say to you FPV,
315 kws…Money on it this is the same engine thats in the current Cobra that was stuck on a private dyno n got 313 kws !! Yawn ………….wake me up when we reach 100 clicks will you FPV!
Whats HSV getting in there next upgrade Wheelnut,Ford your getting nailed, again! Your build quility is better FORD ,your designing on the FPV range mmmm better than the poverty side of Ford but grunt wise D I S A P O I N I N G in the GT, its meant to be your ACE seems like its the joker in this case! Looks like the aftermarket guys once again will make a killing extracting more grunt out of them than you do!
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April 15th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
The question is what will be the price and whats comes standrd?
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April 15th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Take a chill pill BM, its only kws the FPV range will be top dog, even with no kws increase……
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April 15th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
For the record the Boss 315 is an enhanced version of the Cobra engine with dual throttle-bodies so will be above and beyond. Not bad for a 5.4l. Getting it to the road is a different matter.
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April 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Who cares about V8’s, they are yesterdays motor for the Yank Mobil. The engine that will, at least the next 5 years, be the centre of stage is the diesel. And I quote from this site regarding the Audi sports…..”Using a newly developed twin-turbo 6.0-litre 12-cylinder diesel engine, the V12 TDI is based on the standard Audi R8 but proves the point that diesel doesn’t always mean slow. With 373kW and 1,000 Nm of torque this supercar goes from 0-100 km/h in just 4.2 seconds.”
Note, 373kw and 1,000Nm and 6 litre capacity. The Yanks are desperately trying to buy companies in Europe that design and develop diesels because they have not spent any money on R & D in America.
Next development will be hybrids that will incorporate diesel and electric motors together.
We need to move out of the comfort zone like the Europeans otherwise we will be like the Yanks who are on the back foot trying to catchup with the rest of the world.
All I can say at this point regarding the Holden VE and Ford FG is, your sale numbers are going to gradually drop because the price of fuel is going to determin what cars people will buy. And because you are so closely associated with GM America and Ford America and not their European arms you will lose a lot of sales to the Japanese cars and European diesels. When people buy cars they say what they want to buy then buy what they can afford to run.
Hopefully both Ford and Holden Australia will be given the opportunity to go to Europe and get diesels for their FG’s and VE’s very very soon or down the tubes they will go.
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April 15th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Your an Idiot Julian….
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April 15th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
stuff the diesel they smell when you drive behind them
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April 15th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I’ve never seen so many people mezmerised by kws and nms in petrol engines then you talk real KWS and NMS from diesel and all you get is they smell or their noisy or what ever. Wait till you drive one and you go to overtake a truck, there none of this will I want I, you just check and then plant the foot. They have more go than any other engine for the same capacity. Guess what, they use a lot less fuel.
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April 15th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Is it just me or does GTF6 have a great ring to it, Thats what they should call the F6!
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April 15th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
BOSS 5.4 MOTOR BAGT290 520NM NOW THE FGGT315 551NM THERES NO STANDING AROUND WAITING OR WANTING FPV TO LISTEN TO THERE CUSTOMERS,
IF YOU WANT MORE BALLS FROM YOUR GT GET A BLOWER FOR AROUND 10K THEN SEE IF YOU CAN START THE CAR WITH OUT BLOWING ALL OVER YOUR SELF LOL.
420+KW THEN YOU CAN WRAP IT AND YOUR SELF AROUND A POLL.
GO FORD
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April 15th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
I say FPV are saving the big kW motor for the GTHO. A HO isn’t too far away if you listen to the rumours.
My guess is a supercharged donk producing at least 360kW/600Nm - sounds like Ferrari numbers
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April 15th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
when is caradvice driving these?(lucky bastards)
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
I’d say as soon as these get released to the media to test, but I don’t know how far away that it is.
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I will take an F6 please
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Media have cars to test already Oz.. Surely you have seen the reviews online.. Drive.com, carpoint, wheels, many more!
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
carguide too
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
BM: If the reports are true.. that the V8 in the VE II SS will be upgraded to 275-290Kw.. I expect that the HSVs will probalby be somewhere around 320-330Kw
I agree with you about the aftermarket boys being able to do what the factory can’t or won’t - can I suggest Herrod Motorsport then of course there is CAPA
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I mentioned this in the XR6T section, but apparently Ford ran a XR6T down the 1/4 in 13.8secs. The F6 will have to be low 13’s….
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April 15th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
hi im back i fixed my computer
the fg looks great annd of corse i like the performance vehicls but i realisticly would buy a g6e
and here it is in short
F6/F6 ute=310 KW @ 5500 RPM and 565 NM
GT/GT-P/super pursuit/GT-E+ 315 KW @ 6500 RPM
or for idiots a bloody good car!!!!!!!!!!!
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April 15th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
You got a link or just heresay as usual? FPVs are the real deal under the hood, but the looks dont quite cut it, small things missing. Also whats the go with the blank area adjacent to starter button? Looks weird.
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April 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
TP, link to what exectly?
The figures quoted above your post are official. They are stated in the story that you are posting on right here??????
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April 15th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
That’s right wheelnut. Hsv will most likly lift their power in ve series 2 as they fit the new gearbox the tremec tr6060 as there was driveline restrictions which led to the torque staying at 550NM rather than 580NM like the ZO6. The figures will most likly be 317Kw with 580Nm or 327Kw with 580Nm or maybe 320…. The stock LS3 has 321KW with 575Nm, with the addition of the dual mode exaust system will lift the torque to 580Nm and power to 327Kw.
Source wiki:)
A dual mode exhaust package with a bypass on acceleration is available. The dual-mode exhaust uses vacuum-actuated outlet valves, which control engine noise during low-load operation, but open for maximum performance during high-load operation. The system is similar to the C6 Z06, but uses a 2.5″ diameter exhaust compared to the Z06’s 3.0″. Horsepower is boosted to 436 hp (325 kW) and 428 ft·lbf (580 N·m) with this option. The stock ZO6 has 321Kw at 575NM. I bet if you put the HSV on the dyno it will have 321KW.
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April 15th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Quoted widely on the internet:
XR6T 5.1s 0-100km/h, 13.4s 1/4mile
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April 15th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Link?
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April 15th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Where is it quote widely on the net, Ford forums? I think the 0-100 is very quick, abit to quick really… that is going to canibolise FPV sales if true
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April 15th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
All othere places where it has been reviewd.
Im sure CA mite better this times when they review it.
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April 15th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Paul, have a look at:
www drive com au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=51251
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April 15th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Toyonda Pious; how could you miss the widespread coverage of the XR6T’s performance figures? Maybe you just buried your head in Toyo-sand as usual.
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April 15th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
TP you should read up more mate the black on the opposite side to the starter button is for the build number badge!
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April 15th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Duck I’m an Aussie married to an American..
I remember a few years ago at the Sydney Motor when the VZ’s were released HSV had two different KW rating’s on their cars..
The first one 297kw was calculated using whatever way they were using to messure the power of their cars (i cant remember which way it was).
The 2nd figure was in brackets after that and was calculated using the same way Ford was using for their cars and it said 305kw..
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April 15th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
best pics ive seen of a ute so far.
the B pillar has changed quite a bit and it looks like visibility is the big winner.
also looks like remote fuel release is making its debut on the ute
NOW WHERE IS MY UTE REVIEW
(or even just some more info)
oh and NO bench seat please (you listening F-O? yep you can jamb your bench seat)
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April 15th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
TP go to any of the sites I’ve mentioned above to see the 0-100 times for the XR6T. 5.1 it is apparently! Very impressive.
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April 15th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
and tp did you hear the fule consumption they achieved with the fg something like 9.0 per 100 km in the in the XT falcon
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April 16th, 2008 at 12:03 am
ok everyone calm down over the lack of Power put out by FPV GT… wait till the thing is driven and tested before we judge…. its not about the numbers, its all how it is used and how thy get it to the ground…the ford engines have been up graded… just look at the XR6turbo… same power as BF F6 but less torque… but hello its quicker then BF F6!dont judge or right off till the thing has been driven….
Ok in reply to ur HSV VEII claims…. ok think about it… 2007 BF Typhoon 270Kw, 550Nm@2000Rpm Vs VE GTS 307Kw and 550Nm@4500rpm - cars within 0.1 of each other 0-100km/h, 0-400m 0-1000m and thats when the typhoon has 37Kw less KWs…
Now even if the VE II GTS is 325Kw and say 575Nm@4500rpm vs 2008 FG F6 310Kw and 565Nm@1950rpm the F6 is only short by only 15Kw and 10Nm….so its not going to be quicker the the F6… same pace or little slower by 0.1-0.2 nothing really… but will not be quicker… sorry. so thats my thoughts regarding this all VE II issue
i think the F6 has only increased to the 310Kws as HSV made a move first and they upgraded the HSV v8s to the 317Kw engines from the 307Kw… so the F6 is still within 7Kw of the V8….
I cant wait for the tests between the HSVs and the FG FPVs… 5.4 V8 vs 6.2litre V8 vs 4.0 I6T…
Ford and Holden 0-100Km/h
2007 Ford BF XR6T 5.7 0-100Km/h
2008 Ford FG XR6T 5.1 0-100Km/h
2007 Ford BF XR8 6.2 0-100Km/h
2008 Ford FG XR8 5.9 0-100Km/h
2008 Holden VE SS 5.7 0-100Km/h
FPV vs HSV 0-100km/h
2007 BF FPV GT 5.7 0-100km/h
2007 BF FPV F6 5.3 0-100Km/h
2007 VE HSV R8 5.5 0-100km/h
2007 VE HSV GTS5.2 0-100Km/h
2008 FG FPV GT Unknown… have no idea….
2008 FG FPV F6 unknown… would think 4.7-4.8 0-100Km/h as FPV has Claimed 13 flat in either motor or wheels mag.. not shore which one. so keeping inline with the performance shown by the XR6T 5.1 0-100KM/h & 13.4 0-400m
By going by the improvements by ford the FPVs are very promising… i do know that the Next Motor Mag out next month they are doing a whole article on the F6… and doing tests between
G6ETurbo Vs Calais SSV
XR8 vs XR6T Vs SS V
Cant Wait…..
does any one know when Local Ford Dealerships get a Hold of the FG to show to the public??
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April 16th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
if the f6 can do 0-100 in 4.7, then doesnt that take the shine of hsv’s 7 litre 370kw SUPERCAR that claims the same thing
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April 16th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Hey Paul anti spam was Toyota babe…….good to see you not taking the p i s s out of them TP,seems I have done that job this time.
Hey AC Cobra Im cool now,just disapointed in the GT !
Look back when the TE /TS 50 came out, I know they were Winsor but they had 250 KWS next update was the BA GT 290 {40 KWS EXTRA} Then we get the F6 UPDATE now it goes up by {40 kws} the GT 25 kws pathetic!!!!!!!!!! You know when the BA GT came out 320 kws was the rumor ,but we got 290 .Look what Wheelnut has told us,FPV behind the game again!
Turbin if that maybe the case but why the hell didn’t they do more!You driven a Cobra ? Getting the grunt to the ground has always been the 5.4s problem ,too many revs to make them launch. Why didn’t they change the rear end gears or have they?
Hey Ross F6 or what 4 you,either way I guess it will be “HI HO HI HO,its off to Simon I go………shhhhh
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April 16th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
wrong chopstaR87 ive got the wheels magazine right in front of me! June 2007 GTS VS F6! TESTED IN THE WET.
FPV: 0-60 3.1 HSV GTS: 0-60 2.8
0-80 4.3 0-80 4.0
0-100 5.9 0-100 5.5
0-120 7.8 0-120 7.5
0-140 10.0 0-140 9.7
0-160 12.9 0-160 12.6
0-400M 13.9 163KMH 0-400M 13.6 166kmh
It also states that the fpv f6 in normal conditions will get between 5.4 to 5.7 and GTS 5.2.
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April 16th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
And now theres rumours Ford is going to drop the V8 from the Falcon.
If they do they will have wasted heaps of money designing and building an engine only to drop it from the line up.
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April 16th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Your an idiot chopsta y lie for????????
FG XR8 O-100 5.9 lol DRIVE.COM its 6.3 secs that gt motor is slow and the bf fpv gt was 6.1 not 5.7!!!!!!!! obviously the fpv gt and xr8 motors are the same and it’s still slow. the figures of the xr6t don’t add up how does a detuned f6 typhoon motor be slower than the the bf typhoon be 0.3s which is huge. I know what your going to say thats it is a new car launch control etc. But it does not explain the figures of the xr8 which has the same technology as the xr6t and a fpv gt motor which is not detuned like the xr6t motor, and it pulled a similiar figure to the previuos gt but it was still slower. It does not add up with the xr6 when you compare fg xr6t detuned f6 motor to a bf 550NM f6 typhoon which is 0.3secs slower according to the figures, it’s funny how the xr8 is 0.2secs slower to the gt and it has the same engine not detuned like XR6T and it has the technology, it should be quicker than the previous GT by atleast 0.3 secs if the xr6t time made sense. Remeber caradvice stated that these times are not CONFIRMED!
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April 16th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Rod Barrett heaps a ton of praise on the F6. In a wheels interview he described the F6 as phenomenal, but his comments about the GT are more subdued. I wonder if the supercharged Shelby could be plugged into the Falcon? The F6 is clearly the FPV champion and this car really does sound exciting - “Better or equal to many European sports cars”. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that this is a family cart and if Barrett’s comments are accurate (I believe they are)then Ford Australia can be credited with a fantastic achievement. As for the new V6, I’m confident that this new engine will exceed expectations. I read in one of the mags that it will produce 331 KWs!! And apparently Ford have developed or are developing an engine that will reduce Fuel consumption by around 20 percent.
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April 16th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
thats wierd hsv, wheels have gotten a f6 to 5.2 in normal conditions. the fastest ford falcon ever(pre fg)
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April 16th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
“Ford isn’t competing just with Holden anymore it’s competing with Mazda MPS and Golf GTI. It’s not a two horse race”.
Julian, ford and Holden (SS, HSV) and Ford (F6, FPV, XR6T) are in different categorys compared to the VW Golf GTi and Mazda MPS. Completely different! Your talking two little four cylinder turbo hatches.
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April 16th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
Wheelnut,
How come holden and HSV can’t say its a update in the range when upping output and extra’s such as Xeon lights, instead of making a series 2 which causes bad resale?
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April 16th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
HSV W427 640NM, 370kw, fastest stock Australian street-legal car EVER…
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April 16th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
fords are awesome,made in australia mate. who said abos where dumb. im one big fat arse abo ford fan. all abos drive fords
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April 16th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
abos rule, fords rule! go hsv
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April 16th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
It’s fine to have all the power but putting it down to the road is what counts, maybe the F6 can’t get the power down as good as the GTS.. Maybe its the MRC suspension or maybe the fact the GTS has bigger rubber..
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April 16th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
mmmmmmmmmmmm,Henry the NEW F6 goes round their test track faster than the old Phoon by 6 sec from memory ,look out!!!!!!!!F6 WILL RULE FOR FPV HELL SOMETHING HAS TOO!
Duck U a member of Forum? PM Wheelnut if you need to?Hes off for the night………not on me unfortunately! mmmmmm 7th May he will be though!yeah haaaaaaaaaaa
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April 17th, 2008 at 12:38 am
HSV RULE
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
correct me if im wrong but… the w427… with the 370kW… isnt it expected to cost $140,000 + ? Whereas the XR6T is gona be under 50k?
Cant hide the fact the falcons run on smaller engines… and always generally have when it came to v8s
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
in correction to my above comment, even tho the w427 is expected to pull 4.7s 0-100… so its faster… the xr6t is nearly 1/3rd its price… and the f6 will be what.. 70grand cheaper? and if that puts out times similar, equal or faster than the w427 then honestly why the fark would u wana go for the w427… 7 litre engine? thats just stupid
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
All of Ford models is going to kick asss A/C on or off,, they will have to load them up with passengers and sacks of spuds in the boot to help the competition catch up or gain any respect…
Go Ford, Number 1 again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Um K-Dog what are you talking about?
Quote”HSV W427 640NM, 370kw, fastest stock Australian street-legal car EVER…”
Whats so stock about it? Don’t you think the price tag indicates its hardly stock………..and what do you class as stock,straight off the factory floor,thats stock!
I mean if ya going to talk grunt have a look at what Etheridge Ford and Nizpro are doing at the moment.
1300nizpro.com.au I will be interested in the cost when completed .
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
A GT-HO was in the makes for the FG FPV’s but was ditched.
Pity that :(
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Duck - it doesn’t really matter whether or not a car company calls a car which looks almost the same as the previous model: an update; a facelift; series 2..
Because most people will always go for the latest newest model as they believe it to be better than the others [not always the case] Therefore; the impact on resale of all superceded models will be the same
Even if the change is something as insignificant as going from 16 inch wheels to 17s
I mean the fact that they decided such slight [usually cosmetic] changes were necessary is virtually admitting “we didn’t get it quite right with the first model so we made some changes - hope you like it”
Its the same when Microsoft release “patches” for various windows programs
These changes also allow the car companies to see what features etc are popular with customers as the car evolves inot what will become the next new model..
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April 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
I read in the latest issue of Motor that the V8 in the Coupe 60 Concept car has DOD [although Holden have called it something different] and it will be available when the VEII is released later this year
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April 17th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Atomic SSV……………na it wasn’t! that’s in the pipeline still but after 2010!
Fancy seeing you here lover!Hang on your not here……cause if you were I doubt we would be here.Confused?????
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April 17th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Apparently Holden HSV dyno-test there cars with all auxillaries such as Air Con Head Lights ICE System etc turned on which drains power from the engine - whereas
Ford FPV dyno thier cars with the auxillaries switched off
Therefore; when Holden/HSV swithc the auxillaries off their Kw readout increases slightly
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April 17th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
The source i read BM said that it was in for BA and BF but didnt happen.
The GT 40th Anniversary was going to get the super roo badges but didnt due to the cost of them.
And that the GTHO was going to be tryed again with the FG with the Boss being supercharged for 400kw+ and gain all the superoo badges + more.
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April 17th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Add to the above post of mine.
After 2010 it will be interesting to say the least.
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April 17th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Hey Attomic I replied to you but got moderated???????No idea why? Ill check with the guys on that one……..no swearing in it?Thought it may have been the word H O but put GT in front of it and got done again?
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April 17th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Oh ok.
Maybe a double post somewhere? *confused*.
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April 20th, 2008 at 11:13 am
FPV vs Hsv and now GOLF GTI and Mazda Mps…. What ever…lol sorry about FPV AND HSV are above these 2 cars
i think it should be more FPV vs HSV vs EVO X vs WRX STI… these cars are a lot more closer with the EXO and WRX winning the handling while FPV and HAS win the power and straigth line speed… plus FPV and HSV are far far more comfortable cars inside…. i think it would be great to see F6 vs GTS vs Evo X vs STI R-spec competing againest each other in a test… i thing it would be very interesting to see that for shore… does the F6 have the power, grip, drive out of corners and handling to compete with the EVO and STI around a race track???
HSV and FPV are starting to compare with Merc and BMW and Audi in PERFORMACE wise and are great BFYB cars…. still dont have the quality finish and reliabilty of the euros yet….
The F6 will be King of the Australian Perfomace cars once again….. and should be able to match the euro better then the HSVs R8 and GTS in the performace stakes.
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April 20th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
chop,
have you seen the performance car series before?
its pretty much the competition that you describe but with the Lotus’s thrown in
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April 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Yea… i have… but i want to see how the new F6 goes in it???
Also i wanted to see how they all compare in a controled enviro… in controlled test to see how they all faired….
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April 24th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
ohk everyone here is talking about the new falcon and the power figures, and its great to see that for once in a long time ford has gone better than holden, but what do they do just go bigger again, ford are trying to sell cars and to do this they have to match the holdens, but holdens just wanna be better than the fords, and most of the idiots out there think that just cause holden has bigger numbers that they are so much better!!
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April 24th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
seriously holden build your own motors, stop draging them out of the corvettes, sure they powerful and good, but its making the commodore less of an aussie car, and i know i will get shit about fords and german gear box and all different stuff, but really think about it.
haha another thing, the olf ba/f F6 in really life could keep up with the VE GTS, simply because the turbo is so much more forgiving, and its too hard to get the perfect launch. so wats the F6-310 gonna be like..
PS: they should keep the I6, but come 2011 look out for the twin turbo v6!!!!!!!!!
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April 24th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Why is it that everyone is bagging out the GT in this part of the forum??? As far as I’m aware, a jump from 290 to 302 - 315 all in less then a year is a damn good effort. And on the base of it all… it’s basically 290 - 315, which is still an increase of 25 kilowatts. Maybe it’s just me but, the FG GT is a damn fine looking, extremely powerful car. As for the Typhoon/Tornado, anyone bagging that, leave the forum now! You don’t deserve to call yourself human if you can find a way to bag it. The Typhoon in many ways is a massive history mark in the pages of all vehicles!
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April 29th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Resale Value…. Ford For The Loss
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Resale on ANY new car nowadays for the loss!!!
There is so much competition and cheap alternative (albeit commensurately cheap quality!) now that ANY new car has relatively poor resale.
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May 16th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Drive did it’s first test of the car yesterday. Bit disappointing they only recorded 0 - 100 in 5.3 seconds. Having said it beats the new 6.2 commie which recorded 0 -100 in 5.6 seconds. According to Rod Barret, the manual F6 has the goods to go under the five second barrier. Here’s hoping!!!!
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July 1st, 2008 at 1:18 pm
And HSVs advanced development strategy to counter FPV is:
‘Chuck on some more Cubes’
Looks like they are clutching straws
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