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		<title>By: Stimpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stimpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al &amp; Dan, sorry can&#039;t feel sorry for you both. When you initially get your licence you sign a form which states that you will adhere to rules &amp; regulations regarding driving on your states roads, you signed this form. So as &#039;Luke&#039; above suggests just obey the road rules &amp; you won&#039;t get fined...pretty easy isn&#039;t it? I don&#039;t advocate the govt raising revenue this way but they do have to raise money somehow so why not those stupid enough not to be able to follow simple rules. For those that get pinged by fixed speed cameras where there are 3 signs prior to the camera as warning, consider it a stupidity/lack of comprehension/should have been paying more attention tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al &amp; Dan, sorry can&#8217;t feel sorry for you both. When you initially get your licence you sign a form which states that you will adhere to rules &amp; regulations regarding driving on your states roads, you signed this form. So as &#8216;Luke&#8217; above suggests just obey the road rules &amp; you won&#8217;t get fined&#8230;pretty easy isn&#8217;t it? I don&#8217;t advocate the govt raising revenue this way but they do have to raise money somehow so why not those stupid enough not to be able to follow simple rules. For those that get pinged by fixed speed cameras where there are 3 signs prior to the camera as warning, consider it a stupidity/lack of comprehension/should have been paying more attention tax.</p>
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		<title>By: dan smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a ticket of $150 for driving 67kmh at 60kmh zone. Two years ago, I got a ticket of $240 for driving 75kmh at 60kmh zone, in almost empty new four-lanes road out of Dandenong, at 10pm. Any motorist who hasn&#039;t received a speed fine in 5 years time is a very rare species. 
My point is that if by far the majority of the motorist population are breaking speed laws, there&#039;s definity something wrong with speed laws.
Driving in Victoria has become such an uncomfortable experience. We need to constantly keep an eye on speed meter and always look out for hidden mobile cameras somewhere. I&#039;m sick and tired of this system. By common sense and intuition, and many scientific backing, everyone knows it&#039;s NOT designed to save lives, and we&#039;ve talking years after years about this unfair system, but yet nothing can be done about it. IS THIS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY? MUST WE FOLLOW EGYPTIANS TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT CHANGE UNFAIR PRACTICE?
As a sign of protesting against this unfair speeding law, every time I drive pass a mobile camera, I sound my horn load and long. I PROTEST!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a ticket of $150 for driving 67kmh at 60kmh zone. Two years ago, I got a ticket of $240 for driving 75kmh at 60kmh zone, in almost empty new four-lanes road out of Dandenong, at 10pm. Any motorist who hasn&#8217;t received a speed fine in 5 years time is a very rare species.<br />
My point is that if by far the majority of the motorist population are breaking speed laws, there&#8217;s definity something wrong with speed laws.<br />
Driving in Victoria has become such an uncomfortable experience. We need to constantly keep an eye on speed meter and always look out for hidden mobile cameras somewhere. I&#8217;m sick and tired of this system. By common sense and intuition, and many scientific backing, everyone knows it&#8217;s NOT designed to save lives, and we&#8217;ve talking years after years about this unfair system, but yet nothing can be done about it. IS THIS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY? MUST WE FOLLOW EGYPTIANS TO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT CHANGE UNFAIR PRACTICE?<br />
As a sign of protesting against this unfair speeding law, every time I drive pass a mobile camera, I sound my horn load and long. I PROTEST!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Juraj</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11828/police-agree-speed-cameras-are-for-revenue-raising/#comment-231722</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Juraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another problem with this is that they wait for you to commit the &#039;crime&#039; first instead of warning you N times of how fast you&#039;re going. It&#039;s like tracking down a serial killer but waiting to murder someone again before he gets arrested. It&#039;s the opposite of a sickness; cure is better than prevention, and that cure costs a lot more than your daily dose of medicine.

And with this revenue raising, we don&#039;t see the benefits of these fines. Roads are still appalling in Melbourne. Driver training still remains the same mindless, dangerous system. When you fail a licence test, you have to wait some two months for a retest. Why can&#039;t they hire more testers for VicRoads? If you test for a scooter licence in Vietnam and failed, you can take it again and again on the same day until you pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another problem with this is that they wait for you to commit the &#8216;crime&#8217; first instead of warning you N times of how fast you&#8217;re going. It&#8217;s like tracking down a serial killer but waiting to murder someone again before he gets arrested. It&#8217;s the opposite of a sickness; cure is better than prevention, and that cure costs a lot more than your daily dose of medicine.</p>
<p>And with this revenue raising, we don&#8217;t see the benefits of these fines. Roads are still appalling in Melbourne. Driver training still remains the same mindless, dangerous system. When you fail a licence test, you have to wait some two months for a retest. Why can&#8217;t they hire more testers for VicRoads? If you test for a scooter licence in Vietnam and failed, you can take it again and again on the same day until you pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Juraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Juraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All laws are legal but not all of them are for the good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All laws are legal but not all of them are for the good.</p>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if people did not break the law by speeding we would not be in this &quot;revenue raising&quot; argument and we would see lower road tolls. simply put... STOP BREAKING THE LAW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if people did not break the law by speeding we would not be in this &#8220;revenue raising&#8221; argument and we would see lower road tolls. simply put&#8230; STOP BREAKING THE LAW</p>
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		<title>By: Zdenek</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11828/police-agree-speed-cameras-are-for-revenue-raising/#comment-225944</link>
		<dc:creator>Zdenek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fascist government uses speed cameras to rob people in broad daylight. It is brazen revenue raising. Police are an organized, legally sanctioned gang that work for the tyrannical government. They are there to protect those in power from civil dissent. That is the true role of the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fascist government uses speed cameras to rob people in broad daylight. It is brazen revenue raising. Police are an organized, legally sanctioned gang that work for the tyrannical government. They are there to protect those in power from civil dissent. That is the true role of the police.</p>
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		<title>By: BIG JIM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIG JIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beltronics takes care of HWP cars and ghostplate s take care of speed cameras and e tolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beltronics takes care of HWP cars and ghostplate s take care of speed cameras and e tolls.</p>
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		<title>By: BIG JIM</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11828/police-agree-speed-cameras-are-for-revenue-raising/#comment-220801</link>
		<dc:creator>BIG JIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E bay its the Beltronics sti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E bay its the Beltronics sti.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Hoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Hoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree b4idie, in part anyway.  Are you with CARRS?
  
Yes, people must be responsible for their actions.  That statement assumes that moderate speeding by experienced drivers is irresponsible, despite having not had an accident for many years, and never one involving injury to another person.  &#039;Tis irresponsible to assume that.

It also assumes that all people who speed are irresponsible.  That rules out just about everyone, since speed zones are constantly changing within a short distance, and even on the same stretch of road as time goes by.  Never seen them put the speed limit up though.  

It also assumes that noone is capable of driving at frightening speeds like 50km/h in a school zone at 7.30am when we used to do 60 and never hit anyone!  That rules out all the motor sports drivers, off duty police,  ambulance, and firetruck drivers, then there&#039;s off duty military fighter pilots, rally drivers, motocross and roadrace riders, not to mention professional drivers such as taxi and limousine drivers, and truck and bus drivers. 

You assume that the public servants who set the speed limit do it based on some magic mathematical formula that enables them to universally deduce the safe speed on a given stretch of road for everyone, regardless of their abilities, the road conditions, or the vehicle they are driving.  That assumes omniscience, a quality that would liken them to God himself.  You also assume that God has made us all equal, therefore we are all incapable of driving faster than the speed limit, but some are more equal than others - police, ambulance, fire, etc.  Now that is Orwellian.

I could go on bridie but I guess you get the point.  Broaden your mind, your vision, and awareness.  That is what all good drivers do instinctively, thereby enabling them to drive safely at speeds beyond those determined by a cynical money hungry bureaucracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree b4idie, in part anyway.  Are you with CARRS?</p>
<p>Yes, people must be responsible for their actions.  That statement assumes that moderate speeding by experienced drivers is irresponsible, despite having not had an accident for many years, and never one involving injury to another person.  &#8216;Tis irresponsible to assume that.</p>
<p>It also assumes that all people who speed are irresponsible.  That rules out just about everyone, since speed zones are constantly changing within a short distance, and even on the same stretch of road as time goes by.  Never seen them put the speed limit up though.  </p>
<p>It also assumes that noone is capable of driving at frightening speeds like 50km/h in a school zone at 7.30am when we used to do 60 and never hit anyone!  That rules out all the motor sports drivers, off duty police,  ambulance, and firetruck drivers, then there&#8217;s off duty military fighter pilots, rally drivers, motocross and roadrace riders, not to mention professional drivers such as taxi and limousine drivers, and truck and bus drivers. </p>
<p>You assume that the public servants who set the speed limit do it based on some magic mathematical formula that enables them to universally deduce the safe speed on a given stretch of road for everyone, regardless of their abilities, the road conditions, or the vehicle they are driving.  That assumes omniscience, a quality that would liken them to God himself.  You also assume that God has made us all equal, therefore we are all incapable of driving faster than the speed limit, but some are more equal than others &#8211; police, ambulance, fire, etc.  Now that is Orwellian.</p>
<p>I could go on bridie but I guess you get the point.  Broaden your mind, your vision, and awareness.  That is what all good drivers do instinctively, thereby enabling them to drive safely at speeds beyond those determined by a cynical money hungry bureaucracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And where can I buy this non-detectable detector of which you speak?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where can I buy this non-detectable detector of which you speak?</p>
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