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	<title>Comments on: Video: Super Saloon Showdown &#8211; HSV R8</title>
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		<title>By: Aussie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 09:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Holden here is out of its class and the driver was shit its not all that much slower. Im not a Holden fan but ill defend it because that was an unfair comparison but that isnt the best car Australia has 2 offer look up the FPV F6 big, cheap and goes better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Holden here is out of its class and the driver was shit its not all that much slower. Im not a Holden fan but ill defend it because that was an unfair comparison but that isnt the best car Australia has 2 offer look up the FPV F6 big, cheap and goes better.</p>
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		<title>By: TP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarkson likes the HSV cos its easy to power slide with... unfortunately when it comes to getting around a track quickly you dont want a car thats so easy to unsettle, its not a good attribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarkson likes the HSV cos its easy to power slide with&#8230; unfortunately when it comes to getting around a track quickly you dont want a car thats so easy to unsettle, its not a good attribute.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie HSV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie HSV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Top Gear not love this car. Clarkson is the only person I listen too. He tells it how it is. They also had the Japanese Drift champion who loved the power to drift in also. The 08 M3 is not that much fun. It can be a pig. And before you get excited, I race a GT3, so yes, I can drive. The 08 R8 is a great car for a what you pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Top Gear not love this car. Clarkson is the only person I listen too. He tells it how it is. They also had the Japanese Drift champion who loved the power to drift in also. The 08 M3 is not that much fun. It can be a pig. And before you get excited, I race a GT3, so yes, I can drive. The 08 R8 is a great car for a what you pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, if the VXR8 had of been quicker, I bet nobody would have had a problem with the way the test was conducted. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, if the VXR8 had of been quicker, I bet nobody would have had a problem with the way the test was conducted. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Char</title>
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		<dc:creator>Char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To you guys who think a VRX8 or clubsport R8 is a class above M3 and Merc. I&#039;ll make you happy and compare it with a car made nearly 10 years ago.

Vauxhall VXR8 (V8 6.2l engine 417 BHP) = 1999 M5 (V8 400bhp, 4.9l engine), not quite, BMW still wins the power to engine ratio stakes with a 20th century engine. 

Another thing a manual tranny is generally faster than an auto except for only three or four autos so far, porsche having one of them.DCT/DSG from BMW/VW respectivelly are not autos, they are automated dual clutch manuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To you guys who think a VRX8 or clubsport R8 is a class above M3 and Merc. I&#8217;ll make you happy and compare it with a car made nearly 10 years ago.</p>
<p>Vauxhall VXR8 (V8 6.2l engine 417 BHP) = 1999 M5 (V8 400bhp, 4.9l engine), not quite, BMW still wins the power to engine ratio stakes with a 20th century engine. </p>
<p>Another thing a manual tranny is generally faster than an auto except for only three or four autos so far, porsche having one of them.DCT/DSG from BMW/VW respectivelly are not autos, they are automated dual clutch manuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sam R, the next time these clowns it should be a Ferrari F430 vs a Veyron vs a Suzuki swift. That will be a fair comparison wont it. 

Too much journalism out there not enough people smart enough to do it!

And very good point GhisGT where was the traction control?? none of the other cars had any wheelspin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sam R, the next time these clowns it should be a Ferrari F430 vs a Veyron vs a Suzuki swift. That will be a fair comparison wont it. </p>
<p>Too much journalism out there not enough people smart enough to do it!</p>
<p>And very good point GhisGT where was the traction control?? none of the other cars had any wheelspin.</p>
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		<title>By: sco</title>
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		<dc:creator>sco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a bunch of trannie toffs. comparison was no-where. the R8 isn&#039;t that slow, the C63 should have been quicker. They just wanted the BMW to win. BMW sponsored?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a bunch of trannie toffs. comparison was no-where. the R8 isn&#8217;t that slow, the C63 should have been quicker. They just wanted the BMW to win. BMW sponsored?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please! Why not put a Bugatti Veyron in there too and then say that all the other cars were crap! What a useless comparison made by mindless idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please! Why not put a Bugatti Veyron in there too and then say that all the other cars were crap! What a useless comparison made by mindless idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vauxhall VXR8 would have one in the space test, though for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vauxhall VXR8 would have one in the space test, though for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares, Have a look at the reports on the new FG GE6 turbo. 5.1 sec to 100kph. The HSV product just got hammered at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares, Have a look at the reports on the new FG GE6 turbo. 5.1 sec to 100kph. The HSV product just got hammered at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Here we go again... :(</title>
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		<dc:creator>Here we go again... :(</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell? Who are these retards? How do these people get these jobs of testing cars when they have got no f*cking clue how to do it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell? Who are these retards? How do these people get these jobs of testing cars when they have got no f*cking clue how to do it</p>
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		<title>By: GhisGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>GhisGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one thing too, why was the traction control switched off on the VXR8?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one thing too, why was the traction control switched off on the VXR8?</p>
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		<title>By: midi</title>
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		<dc:creator>midi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im a ford fan and i think that the clubby got ripped off in this comparison!! the bmw and mercedes are half the size of the VE. its like putting a V8 under a mondeo and making it rear wheel drive and comparing it to a clubby in a drag!! obviously we know who will win!! pretty dumb journos!! well its probably vauxhalls fault for marketing the clubby to compete against cars that are european benchmarks!! wat was the drifting for-can we start doing it if we had those cars!! haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im a ford fan and i think that the clubby got ripped off in this comparison!! the bmw and mercedes are half the size of the VE. its like putting a V8 under a mondeo and making it rear wheel drive and comparing it to a clubby in a drag!! obviously we know who will win!! pretty dumb journos!! well its probably vauxhalls fault for marketing the clubby to compete against cars that are european benchmarks!! wat was the drifting for-can we start doing it if we had those cars!! haha</p>
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		<title>By: Juraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The commentator is boring along with a bunch of idiots. The Merc is faster than the M3, as tested by Top Gear, Fifth Gear and Car &amp; Driver. It&#039;s also pointless to make the big Vauxhall fight the smaller cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The commentator is boring along with a bunch of idiots. The Merc is faster than the M3, as tested by Top Gear, Fifth Gear and Car &amp; Driver. It&#8217;s also pointless to make the big Vauxhall fight the smaller cars.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It only got beaten by 1 second or so... in a drag race the gap between the cars can be deceptive.

But yeah, in the UK the VXR8 is 37000 pounds, where as the c63 is 52000 or so, and the is-f and m3 are slightly cheaper... so definitely not the fairest comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It only got beaten by 1 second or so&#8230; in a drag race the gap between the cars can be deceptive.</p>
<p>But yeah, in the UK the VXR8 is 37000 pounds, where as the c63 is 52000 or so, and the is-f and m3 are slightly cheaper&#8230; so definitely not the fairest comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: goog</title>
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		<dc:creator>goog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the worse comparison iv ever seen. the holden would not have won i no that, but there is no way it could have been flogged by that much. the driver of the vxr8 wheel span way to much, any other video it doesnt spin that much. and to cut the holden out after the 1st comparison was bullshit. they obviously knew it would have been a winner in 1 of the 2.
its a 4.9 (0-100) second car, if it got beaten by that much then u would thing the bmw and the merc would be like a 4 second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the worse comparison iv ever seen. the holden would not have won i no that, but there is no way it could have been flogged by that much. the driver of the vxr8 wheel span way to much, any other video it doesnt spin that much. and to cut the holden out after the 1st comparison was bullshit. they obviously knew it would have been a winner in 1 of the 2.<br />
its a 4.9 (0-100) second car, if it got beaten by that much then u would thing the bmw and the merc would be like a 4 second.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>piss poor excuse????

maybe i should peddle the skinny tyres excuse then???

i never said the HSV should win did i? i am just saying it was exaggerated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>piss poor excuse????</p>
<p>maybe i should peddle the skinny tyres excuse then???</p>
<p>i never said the HSV should win did i? i am just saying it was exaggerated</p>
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		<title>By: TP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AndrewM piss poor excuse, it was a close call... it lost by a coupla seconds, which at in excess of 100km/h equates to 30m or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AndrewM piss poor excuse, it was a close call&#8230; it lost by a coupla seconds, which at in excess of 100km/h equates to 30m or so.</p>
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		<title>By: TP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crappy test, the BMW was the worst drifter.... but hey, shows that the local FPV and HSV stables are useless compared to the likes of the Lexus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crappy test, the BMW was the worst drifter&#8230;. but hey, shows that the local FPV and HSV stables are useless compared to the likes of the Lexus</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no discussion needed.

it is obvious that the clubbie was disadvantaged, and im not a holden fan either.
the thing was put into wheelspin at the start. once you break traction, wave good bye to the blue ribbon. im not saying it should have won either, but not to the point where people bag the shyte out of it.
imagine if cathy freeman had have slipped momentarily at the sydney olympics........... a poor start would have put her at the rear of the field.

why didnt they do the luggage test first, as with the interior space? that would have eliminated the others prior to the drag race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no discussion needed.</p>
<p>it is obvious that the clubbie was disadvantaged, and im not a holden fan either.<br />
the thing was put into wheelspin at the start. once you break traction, wave good bye to the blue ribbon. im not saying it should have won either, but not to the point where people bag the shyte out of it.<br />
imagine if cathy freeman had have slipped momentarily at the sydney olympics&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. a poor start would have put her at the rear of the field.</p>
<p>why didnt they do the luggage test first, as with the interior space? that would have eliminated the others prior to the drag race.</p>
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