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		<title>By: Kiyoshi Manabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiyoshi Manabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! I have a Lexus IS350 in Japan,my home country. She&#039;s a 2009 model,and her acceleration is as fast as the Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 and the Mercedes-Benz E550(5461cc/387ps),with fairly loosen-up engine pumping 0W-50 oil. For example,my elapsed 0-100km/h acceleration data is 4.9sec!,faster than the comparable BMW 335i.
On the other hand,in Australian market,there&#039;s still no Lexus IS350 imported officially. The only offering is the IS250 with 2499cc/V6 yielding 153-156kW(208/212ps) here. And there&#039;s also an IS-F the monster machine vastly above it,but it&#039;s not for everyone.
I&#039;m doubtful about Lexus&#039; such timid and frillless model policy for several export markets,even considering main models of 3-series and C-class being 4-cylinder powered plebeian 320i and C200K. Consequently,the Lexus IS series sold in Australia seems mere a guise somewhat faster than the Citroen C5 2.7diesel.
According to the rumor,the Lexus people want to release their products for competitive price,thus such &quot;just enough yet hardly withstanding&quot; offerings are launched to several destinations. Indeed,the IS250 has commendable power,as posting 0-100km/h in 6.66sec! with automatic transmission(according to some Japanese sources),but it&#039;s not astonishing for its price,as potent as 6-cylinder Commodore and Falcon level. 
On the contrary,the GS variants are reasonably and competitively arranged. With 3.5-litres and V8/4.6-litres motors she is very competitive with the Mercedes E-class,Volvo S80,and BMW 5-series. Especially V8 4606cc/347ps(GS460 guise) motor makes her a favourable machine. With jittery ride and somewhat numb steering improved,she&#039;ll become a formidable rival to the likes of 5-series,A6,and Jaguar XF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! I have a Lexus IS350 in Japan,my home country. She&#8217;s a 2009 model,and her acceleration is as fast as the Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 and the Mercedes-Benz E550(5461cc/387ps),with fairly loosen-up engine pumping 0W-50 oil. For example,my elapsed 0-100km/h acceleration data is 4.9sec!,faster than the comparable BMW 335i.<br />
On the other hand,in Australian market,there&#8217;s still no Lexus IS350 imported officially. The only offering is the IS250 with 2499cc/V6 yielding 153-156kW(208/212ps) here. And there&#8217;s also an IS-F the monster machine vastly above it,but it&#8217;s not for everyone.<br />
I&#8217;m doubtful about Lexus&#8217; such timid and frillless model policy for several export markets,even considering main models of 3-series and C-class being 4-cylinder powered plebeian 320i and C200K. Consequently,the Lexus IS series sold in Australia seems mere a guise somewhat faster than the Citroen C5 2.7diesel.<br />
According to the rumor,the Lexus people want to release their products for competitive price,thus such &#8220;just enough yet hardly withstanding&#8221; offerings are launched to several destinations. Indeed,the IS250 has commendable power,as posting 0-100km/h in 6.66sec! with automatic transmission(according to some Japanese sources),but it&#8217;s not astonishing for its price,as potent as 6-cylinder Commodore and Falcon level.<br />
On the contrary,the GS variants are reasonably and competitively arranged. With 3.5-litres and V8/4.6-litres motors she is very competitive with the Mercedes E-class,Volvo S80,and BMW 5-series. Especially V8 4606cc/347ps(GS460 guise) motor makes her a favourable machine. With jittery ride and somewhat numb steering improved,she&#8217;ll become a formidable rival to the likes of 5-series,A6,and Jaguar XF.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11724/new-lexus-models/comment-page-1/#comment-65882</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah....TP he was obviously suffering from some inferiority complex cause he came darting through the traffic chasing me,get a life you would be lucky to have driven anything with more than 110 kws....ok that was a bit harsh Im sorry!

Hey Paul would have love to have you mobile number got a great T shirt the other day that you would have loved,send the other guys a pic of me wearinfg it but looks like you missed out, didums .Poor baby

Whats the matter Titan.........you prefer to hear every bodies personal opinions than experience.

We all know the Aston is the one of the worlds best looking and most likely best sounding car you can buy,do we care about build quality or reliability....na I just want one,thats passion!!!!!!!!! 

Lexus.....yawn you awake No Name</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah&#8230;.TP he was obviously suffering from some inferiority complex cause he came darting through the traffic chasing me,get a life you would be lucky to have driven anything with more than 110 kws&#8230;.ok that was a bit harsh Im sorry!</p>
<p>Hey Paul would have love to have you mobile number got a great T shirt the other day that you would have loved,send the other guys a pic of me wearinfg it but looks like you missed out, didums .Poor baby</p>
<p>Whats the matter Titan&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;you prefer to hear every bodies personal opinions than experience.</p>
<p>We all know the Aston is the one of the worlds best looking and most likely best sounding car you can buy,do we care about build quality or reliability&#8230;.na I just want one,thats passion!!!!!!!!! </p>
<p>Lexus&#8230;..yawn you awake No Name</p>
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		<title>By: silky</title>
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		<dc:creator>silky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you guys and gals take a 250 for a drive, its a beautiful car, a fantastic tourer(rear seating tho is well, flawed!!) This isn&#039;t a performance car and wasn&#039;t designed to be one, thats the 350.
Wheelnut, value for money against the germans is a no brainer, lexus blows them away, isn&#039;t the fold down armrest in the backseat an option for some BMW&#039;s?(I&#039;M NOT JOKING)

Performance to the Germans tho, nobody does it better :)

Depends what you want, it&#039;s your money :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you guys and gals take a 250 for a drive, its a beautiful car, a fantastic tourer(rear seating tho is well, flawed!!) This isn&#8217;t a performance car and wasn&#8217;t designed to be one, thats the 350.<br />
Wheelnut, value for money against the germans is a no brainer, lexus blows them away, isn&#8217;t the fold down armrest in the backseat an option for some BMW&#8217;s?(I&#8217;M NOT JOKING)</p>
<p>Performance to the Germans tho, nobody does it better :)</p>
<p>Depends what you want, it&#8217;s your money :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dlr1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dlr1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthonii, does that mean that BMW has no passion if you outrun a 318i? Or theres no passion in a porsche if you outrun a Boxster or worse a 924?

You dont get to be one of the top luxury brands without having a passion for what you do.

Perhaps you should go and nail someone else while driving your Kia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthonii, does that mean that BMW has no passion if you outrun a 318i? Or theres no passion in a porsche if you outrun a Boxster or worse a 924?</p>
<p>You dont get to be one of the top luxury brands without having a passion for what you do.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should go and nail someone else while driving your Kia.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthonii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthonii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh what fun I could have here but hey whats the point it will just end up like the Lexus that tried to have a run with me yesterday,he got nailed! Pity Lexus didn’t have passion in their product ,but hey they are part of the worlds most boring car manufacturers!

I doubt it was the IS-F or LF-A...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what fun I could have here but hey whats the point it will just end up like the Lexus that tried to have a run with me yesterday,he got nailed! Pity Lexus didn’t have passion in their product ,but hey they are part of the worlds most boring car manufacturers!</p>
<p>I doubt it was the IS-F or LF-A&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SteveR32</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prior to getting my R32 I had decided my new car would be the Lexus IS250 Sports. Amazing looking car with a great brand behind it. Only problem is the manual I wanted was terrible (rubbery shifts) and the numerous rattles that owners had experienced. 

Go on any Lexus forum and take a look at the current owners complaining about the rattles. My R32 is solid as a brick and *touch wood* hope it stays that way. My previous car had its fair share of rattles and its the last thing you want when you are forking out 65 large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prior to getting my R32 I had decided my new car would be the Lexus IS250 Sports. Amazing looking car with a great brand behind it. Only problem is the manual I wanted was terrible (rubbery shifts) and the numerous rattles that owners had experienced. </p>
<p>Go on any Lexus forum and take a look at the current owners complaining about the rattles. My R32 is solid as a brick and *touch wood* hope it stays that way. My previous car had its fair share of rattles and its the last thing you want when you are forking out 65 large.</p>
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		<title>By: SRTargets</title>
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		<dc:creator>SRTargets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jamison Says: 
April 9th, 2008 at 3:45 am 
Would you say a Nissan Tiida is the same as a Infiniti G37?


No, but its still a nissan and a good one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jamison Says:<br />
April 9th, 2008 at 3:45 am<br />
Would you say a Nissan Tiida is the same as a Infiniti G37?</p>
<p>No, but its still a nissan and a good one at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin John T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin John T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta agree, Lexus has been releasing fantastic cars lately and getting better all the time. Lexus has virtually revamped it&#039;s entire fleet over the past couple of years and have to admitt that they have come of age as one of the greatest of all. Performance of these new breeds can not be refuted either. Great job Lexus and keep up the good work. Love &#039;ya cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta agree, Lexus has been releasing fantastic cars lately and getting better all the time. Lexus has virtually revamped it&#8217;s entire fleet over the past couple of years and have to admitt that they have come of age as one of the greatest of all. Performance of these new breeds can not be refuted either. Great job Lexus and keep up the good work. Love &#8216;ya cars</p>
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		<title>By: jamison</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its just crazy...

I think more people who know about manufacturing, engineering and design needs to be in this site... 

Anyways, the Lexus is a different echelon of cars from Toyota, yes technically by the one company. But... seriously... again read this carefully... Lexus are more expensive for a reason.... they literally are made of the same material grades, same tolerance-accuracies, same performance (durability) targets etc as the top notch Euros... 


Realcars... now you spew &quot;Its an Aurion&quot;... seriously WHAT THE FCK you smokin? You on drugs? or just PLAIN hate anything with a Toyota badge on it?

Would you say a Nissan Tiida is the same as a Infiniti G37??



And other people bagging on this.... I suppose you are a BMW, Mercedes, or Audi owner... its understandable to bag or diss another product that competes with the product you spent your money on.... its very very very understandable.. makes you feel better with the purchase.

Love Audis!, Beamers! and Mercs... but Lex can be mentioned along the lines now....

if you pass on it, because you dont like &quot;Toyota&quot; or anything that is related to them... then its your loss...


And about the article, I dont think Audi RS4s are &quot;aging&quot; per say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its just crazy&#8230;</p>
<p>I think more people who know about manufacturing, engineering and design needs to be in this site&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyways, the Lexus is a different echelon of cars from Toyota, yes technically by the one company. But&#8230; seriously&#8230; again read this carefully&#8230; Lexus are more expensive for a reason&#8230;. they literally are made of the same material grades, same tolerance-accuracies, same performance (durability) targets etc as the top notch Euros&#8230; </p>
<p>Realcars&#8230; now you spew &#8220;Its an Aurion&#8221;&#8230; seriously WHAT THE FCK you smokin? You on drugs? or just PLAIN hate anything with a Toyota badge on it?</p>
<p>Would you say a Nissan Tiida is the same as a Infiniti G37??</p>
<p>And other people bagging on this&#8230;. I suppose you are a BMW, Mercedes, or Audi owner&#8230; its understandable to bag or diss another product that competes with the product you spent your money on&#8230;. its very very very understandable.. makes you feel better with the purchase.</p>
<p>Love Audis!, Beamers! and Mercs&#8230; but Lex can be mentioned along the lines now&#8230;.</p>
<p>if you pass on it, because you dont like &#8220;Toyota&#8221; or anything that is related to them&#8230; then its your loss&#8230;</p>
<p>And about the article, I dont think Audi RS4s are &#8220;aging&#8221; per say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AussieCars</title>
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		<dc:creator>AussieCars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NoName said &quot;One day everyone will be driving Toyotas or Lexus’s. Oh what a feeling as we all fell asleep at the wheel.&quot;

LOL...suicide rates will triple as car enthusiast would have nothing left to live for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NoName said &#8220;One day everyone will be driving Toyotas or Lexus’s. Oh what a feeling as we all fell asleep at the wheel.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;suicide rates will triple as car enthusiast would have nothing left to live for.</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day everyone will be driving Toyotas or Lexus&#039;s. Oh what a feeling as we all fell asleep at the wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day everyone will be driving Toyotas or Lexus&#8217;s. Oh what a feeling as we all fell asleep at the wheel.</p>
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		<title>By: Poison Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poison Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your ability to acknowledge &#039;talent&#039; is somewhat flawed, your always under Toyota&#039;s desk. The Caprice isn&#039;t made by Daewoo and represents good value, even when compared to Lexus models. It is an outstanding car that beats Lexus for driver appeal. However, I acknowledge Lexus has more features and they are great cars, but I&#039;d rather throw a BMW, Mercedes or even a Caprice at a set of twisties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your ability to acknowledge &#8216;talent&#8217; is somewhat flawed, your always under Toyota&#8217;s desk. The Caprice isn&#8217;t made by Daewoo and represents good value, even when compared to Lexus models. It is an outstanding car that beats Lexus for driver appeal. However, I acknowledge Lexus has more features and they are great cars, but I&#8217;d rather throw a BMW, Mercedes or even a Caprice at a set of twisties.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u compare these bland bloody things to real marques and u call yourselves enthusiasts!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u compare these bland bloody things to real marques and u call yourselves enthusiasts!!!</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure Roca would have a lot of input when it comes to deciding the Lexus lineup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure Roca would have a lot of input when it comes to deciding the Lexus lineup.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why mighty Titan do u find the truth confronting?

and Joober am I not correct when I say that u are a Toyotaphile of longstanding who lambastes Ford and Holden Blogs at every opportunity?

Comparing Lexus to the likes of BMW/Mercedes/Audi are u serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why mighty Titan do u find the truth confronting?</p>
<p>and Joober am I not correct when I say that u are a Toyotaphile of longstanding who lambastes Ford and Holden Blogs at every opportunity?</p>
<p>Comparing Lexus to the likes of BMW/Mercedes/Audi are u serious?</p>
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		<title>By: Joober</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree titan, each article is followed by a tirade of bashing, though some good comments may come, but when it gets to these comment-troll behaviour it just annoys me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree titan, each article is followed by a tirade of bashing, though some good comments may come, but when it gets to these comment-troll behaviour it just annoys me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you weren&#039;t going to utilise the power and technology that your Lexus [or Lexii if you happen to have 2] posesses; every now and again; and drive it like the performance car that we are lead to believe it is.. 
then you might as well by a Camry - then check that you have a pulse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you weren&#8217;t going to utilise the power and technology that your Lexus [or Lexii if you happen to have 2] posesses; every now and again; and drive it like the performance car that we are lead to believe it is..<br />
then you might as well by a Camry &#8211; then check that you have a pulse</p>
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		<title>By: Titan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Titan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual you spam this site with utter rubbish Realcars. And as usual we have to hear about BM’s M3... There is a very good reason why as an &quot;enthusiast&quot; I tend to stay away from caradvice. Objective opinions are few and far between these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual you spam this site with utter rubbish Realcars. And as usual we have to hear about BM’s M3&#8230; There is a very good reason why as an &#8220;enthusiast&#8221; I tend to stay away from caradvice. Objective opinions are few and far between these days.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoom Zoom......</description>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11724/new-lexus-models/comment-page-1/#comment-65555</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lexus obviously dom&#039;t have much faith in their product. I mean in the photograph of the red IS-250 above and they&#039;ve put an &quot;X&quot; next to it..

so what do they think is wrong with it? [apart from the fact its an overpriced  Toyota].. 

could it be they&#039;re admitting it&#039;s not as good as its rivals in terms of features value for money or performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lexus obviously dom&#8217;t have much faith in their product. I mean in the photograph of the red IS-250 above and they&#8217;ve put an &#8220;X&#8221; next to it..</p>
<p>so what do they think is wrong with it? [apart from the fact its an overpriced  Toyota].. </p>
<p>could it be they&#8217;re admitting it&#8217;s not as good as its rivals in terms of features value for money or performance.</p>
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