Comments on: BMW to sell engines to GM, Daimler and Fiat?

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:37:00 +0000

Jeez bit behind the ball on this one …………..I did mention it a while ago Wheelnut, Jamison what would you prefer a BMW assembled engine or GM ?

Hey No Name me miss you all too………..started texting now NM,Golfy and TonyN would you but a little costly babe to you! Even chatted to NM on the phone other day,lovely guy still wont tell me his age though,gezz you guys are worse than women on that! mmmwwwaaaaa to you all for now!

Wheelnut home soon so better go.

By: PoisonEagle

PoisonEagle — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:05:28 +0000

Interesting to see BMW is eager to share its sublime sixes with the world, that would provide MAJOR leverage in the ‘pleb’ market.

By: jamison

jamison — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:30:04 +0000

Im not so sure if its a big deal really,

as someone stated, these kind of things happen all the time.. well not all the time, but it has happened and not surprising.

Manufacturers buy engines/drive train parts from other manufacturers (competition).

But its ironic, that Holden/GM benchmarked BMW for the VE, even trying to sway M3 and 5 series buyers to opt for the much cheaper HSV range, then they turn around and deal directly to the manufacturer they tried to copy and directly steal some of its market…. but hey, to BMW its $$$.

And I wonder if its designed and build by BMW… as a whole engine… or BMW sell engine blocks/parts and up to GM and Fiat to put it together… GM has plenty of engine parts tooling and have the assembly lines to do it.. by just buying them as parts it’ll save them some money.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:44:05 +0000

Bavarian Missile says Hi to all her friends/allies on CA.

Don’t worry Dingo or TP I don’t think she was referring to you.

She hopes to be back on line soon.. possibly tomorrow

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:36:04 +0000

I;ll see what BM says.. I mean – I can’t just go out and get her one [even though I'd like to] as she hates surprises.

By: Richo

Richo — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:31:19 +0000

Wheelnut – i remember discussing it with BM a while back! but the 4ltr V8 will never find its way into a commodore, its simply far too expensive to produce which makes it impossible to place in a sub 60k car.

Lets be a little bit realistic here, this story is actually not all that new as GM started talking to BMW about engines a little while back. GM where actually well advanced in developing a new version of their northstar V8 for their next generation of cadillac’s, however due to the stupid american CAFE laws, this is no longer feasable so GM started talking to BMW about using some BMW V8′s to replace the now ageing northstar V8 in their next generation of cadillac models. This is in all likelyhood the extent of the relationship. It’ll be one or two engines, solely for cadillac, and thats it.

Why would GM source 6 and 4 cylinder motors when they already have a huge range of those engines in their arsenal, not least of which the new direct injection version of holdens alloytec V6, which is currently doing service in the new cadillac CTS, and is apparently a bit of a pearler!

By: No Name

No Name — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:19:16 +0000

Aaaww Wheelnut buy BM a new laptop mate she’s missed.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:57:32 +0000

Bavarian Missile [who hasn't been on jere latley due to computer problems etc] first mentioned this on the Forum a couple of months ago.

BMW aren;t among the worlds best engine builders.. they are the best – Max Power / Smallest Capacity not to mention high tech and awesome sound

If the deal goes ahead maybe it will enable Holden to drop the 4 Litre V8 out of the current M3 into the commodore or torana given that M is cosnidering a twin turbo in line 6 for the next model

By: Richo

Richo — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:40:00 +0000

Azza – people buy BMW’s for one thing and one thing only, prestige. Its all about the badge baby! nothing else.

And you might all be interested to know that GM has been supplying BMW with automatic gearbox’s for a VERY long time now…

By: No Name

No Name — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:32:57 +0000

BMW have sold engines before to GM and others. The Opel/Vauxhall Omega used a 2.5 V6 diesel from BMW in the mid nineties, they also sold a diesel 2.0litre 4cyl unit to Rover as used in the Rover 600. It, I believe, the same basic engine as used in the current BMW 3 series 2.0 diesel.
Of course GM are going to shout about it BMW’s 6 cyl units are among the best in the world. More profit for BMW less developement for GM. makes perfectly good sense to me.