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Ford Australia cuts jobs, production as Falcon sales dive

By Tim Beissmann |

Ford Australia will cut 240 factory workers in Victoria and decrease vehicle production by 20 percent from July.

The decision was a direct result of dwindling demand for Ford’s locally manufactured vehicles, especially the Falcon sedan, whose sales are down a massive 40 percent so far this year.

The job cuts will be spread across the Broadmeadows assembly plant and the Geelong engine and casting facility. The number of Ford Australia manufacturing employees will drop from 1800 to 1560.

Ford Australia says some Broadmeadows employees could be offered jobs at the casting plant, but the large majority will be made redundant.

Daily vehicle production at the assembly line will decrease from 260 vehicles per day to 209.

Ford Australia’s manufacturing plants are currently operating at full capacity to build up stock of the new Territory, which goes on sale later this month. They will be scaled back to three days a week in May and June – like they have been for most of the year – to balance supply and demand.

Both plants will return to the standard five-day format around the middle of July, although at the reduced production rate with fewer workers on the floor.

Falcon sales have largely been in free-fall since their peak of 73,220 in 2003. By 2007 that number dropped to 33,941, and last year they fell below 30,000 for the first time in modern history.

In the first quarter of 2011, Ford delivered just 4448 Falcons, 40 percent (2880 units) less than the same period in 2010. If sales do not pick up from their current rate, Ford Australia is on track to deliver just 17,792 Falcons for the whole of 2011 – just slightly more than it sold in the first quarter alone in the halcyon days of 2003.

The story is the same for the Falcon Ute and Territory. Last year, Ford Australia sold 9099 Utes, less than half of the 20,212 it delivered in 2003. So far this year, sales are down a further 26 percent to just 1651.

The Territory enjoyed its strongest sales year in 2005 when 23,454 examples of the medium SUV were sold. That number dropped to 11,558 by the end of last year, with shoppers deserting the ageing product for compact SUVs and diesel powertrains.

So far in 2011, Territory sales have been seven percent below their 2010 levels, although a proportion of that decrease can be attributed to the run-out of the seven-year-old first-generation model and the arrival of the second-generation SZ Territory this month.

While the long-term future of Ford Australia may already be decided behind closed doors, Ford is pinning its hopes on a completely revised locally manufactured line-up over the next 12 months to get back on track.

The Territory – including the highly anticipated diesel model – leads the updates in the next fortnight. The Falcon range will enjoy a styling and specification update in September/October, and the four-cylinder EcoBoost engine will be introduced into the Falcon range in the first quarter of 2012.

The continued decline of large car sales and the rapid shift towards smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles is the major concern for Ford Australia in the long term.

In 2007, Ford announced it would produce the Ford Focus small car in Australia alongside the Falcon, but in 2009 it rejected those plans in favour of producing the EcoBoost Falcon and the diesel Territory.

So far this year, Focus sales have increased 48 percent – up from 2125 vehicles to 3140. Those figures are even more impressive considering they are for an ageing model that will be replaced by a completely redesigned model in the third quarter of the year.

Meanwhile, sales of the locally manufactured Holden Commodore have also decreased this year, but Holden has the Focus-sized Cruze small car to fall back on.

Holden is now in full Cruze sedan production mode and will add the Cruze hatch to the Elizabeth assembly line before the end of the year. Holden is on track to sell 30,000 Cruzes and 40,000 Commodores this year.


 
  • laurie

    So now we know why they brought forward the EcoBoost engine into the Mondeo,because this engine in no way will save the Falcon its the size of the car thats the problem so it will now I assume use the Mondeo to tackle the Holden Cruze

    • Joker

      Err… Cruze Vs. Mondeo? No. Cruze vs. Focus… Thats the market and more importantly, price. The Mondeo is almost the size of a Falcon and competes against…well nothing currently in Holden’s line up unless you deem the Epica worthy which isn’t even selling in Australia any more.
      Eco Boost Falcons will sell well, no doubt. The Fleet buyers will flock to it. How can you make such inept assumptions on a product you know nothing about?

    • My Cars Called T-Rex

      A Mondeo is wider than a Falcon.

      • Andrew M

        Maybe on exterior dimensions, but Im pretty sure inside “shoulder width” is still bigger in the Falcon

  • Henry F

    I hope for the sake of the workers, their families and the larger community that Ford’s revised strategy works. They really do make a good product but just need to move that little bit quicker with the times.

  • Duckula

    So you spent all that money getting ready to build the new focus here, then you dropped the idea….awesome plan that was Mr Ford.

  • Pauly

    Ford Australia are run by idiots. If you really think you can continue making large cars with big thursty engines in the year 2011 you have rocks in your head.

    It just wont sell, and the proof is in the stats.

    They should have the Focus made here to compete with the Cruze, which would have saved the jobs of alot of these people.

    They should be ashamed of themselves for letting it get this far.

    Relying on a Land Rover Disel for the Territory, and Eco Boost engines for the Falcon is not going to save it. There is no point putting a tiny petrol engine in a massive car, you are going to still have consumption issues as the small engine needs to move the weight of a much heavier car.

    • Road Warrior

      Problem is Ford have had three leadership changes in 5 years and every new CEO wants to change things from the last. This causes money to be wasted, plans to be put on hold (or scrapped like the Focus) and lots of uncertainty for the workers, not to mention consumers. This dithering is manifesting itself now.

      They should have stuck with the V6 plan for the Falcon and the Focus production because that plan gave Ford the greatest opportunity to build long term success.

    • Roadtard

      Pauly, Commodore still outsells everything else, so why would you stop making the market leading vehicle just because it sells in smaller numbers now? You’d have to have rocks in your head!

      Falcon should have been the No.1 car but Ford made a series of stupid decisions over the last three decades. Leaving the performance market (halo models) to Holden was just the start of Ford’s woes. When Holden was kicking butt with VT (record sales), Ford gave us the ugly AU. When Holden was exporting, Ford was asleep at the wheel. When Holden geared up to build a smaller car, Ford gave up on the idea.

      The FG’s a great car, but sadly it’s the last Aussie Falcon.

      • Devil’s Advocate

        Sorry to disappoint you Roadtard but so far this year the Commodore isn’t the number one selling car/market leader in Australia. Up until the end of March according to VFACTS the Mazda3 has so far sold more units in Australia in 2011.
        Whilst this will most likely change within the next month or two with the Commodore re-gaining No1, it appears that the “Large Aussie Car” isn’t quite as popular as it once was.

        • Roadtard

          Devil, The numbers aren’t what they used to be, but Holden stands to pick up future Falcon buyers after that car is gone…

          A 4.0 litre Commodore would do the job ;-)

          • cat exits bag

            A 4.0 litre Commodore…

  • Crummydore

    Make no mistake.. this is a big worry. I have watched the sales chart for a while now and wondered when Ford would be forced to move. Think about what happened to Mitsubishi, it was propped up by the SA Govt until there was no choice but to shut it down – the 380 should never have even been built, however that was a political decision to artificially keep jobs going – it didn\’t work. Ford is now being slammed by imports that have next to no tariffs whilst building a car, whilst being very good, is not wanted by the market and also hamstrung by Ford US by not being allowing the Falcon to be exported. Unless the new Focus and Territory get people into dealerships, and backed up with some really solid marketing I believe that Ford manufacturing in Australia is on its last legs. Sorry to be so pessimistic about this but I can\’t see a light at the end of the tunnel on this one.

  • Alex II

    Maybe it’s time to face facts, Ford Australia has been making poor decisions for a little while now, that won’t be the death of them though. As with Mitsubishi and Nissan before that, as soon as the “It is going to close down rumour” starts, the momentum builds quickly and it’s almost impossible to stop. Here’s the scenario:

    Guy in pub talking to his mate about buying a new car,
    “We’re thinking of getting a new Falcon”
    “Really? Ford is going to close down here, haven’t you been reading the papers? You’re better off buying a Commodore at least they’ll still be making them in a couple of years” says his mate

    And the rest is history, it’s a self fulfilling prophecy.

    It will be a sad day if Ford disappears from manufacturing in this country.

    Honestly, good luck Ford, I think you are going to need it.

  • Spectre

    If Polites had stayed at Ford Oz:

    We would have,

    2.7TD Territory from ’07 3.0TTD from ’09
    G6E TTD + G8E
    LPi Territory & Falcon
    F250/F350 Scorpion TDV8
    Many sales
    Much profit

    • Owoteva

      I think that\’s a very narrow view of FordOz plight. They\’ve actually returned to profit last year and they\’re sales have increase this year, it\’s just that Falcon and it\’s derivatives aren\’t selling as well.

      Large cars are in decline no matter what engine you stick in them. Fleets aren\’t interested in Falcon due to no LPG model at the moment (also explains why the XT model is virtually non-existant), Camry/Aurion sales are down and I\’m sure if Holden hadn\’t sown up some good fleet deals Commodore would be in trouble too.

      I want FordOz to keep manufacturing here but they need to build the right product. Start making Mondeos/Fusions, next gen Explorer as a Territory, next gen Escape for the booming compact SUV market. Just find something that the private buyer actually wants, not something relying on fleet sales

  • marc

    if Ford is really going in the path of Mits – there will be perfect deals for Falcons down the track ;-) I love falcons more than any other car – G6E Turbo is the best on the market and FPV are great… I only hope there is good management now in place coz Holden is the same structure and they doing well – so there is prob in Ford\\\’s management

  • Technofreak

    I feel sorry for the workers suffering at the hand of another crap CEO who will no doubt get his bonus…
    …happens too many times.

  • bangel

    Sad for ford , but the big car is dying in sedan form ,fuel prices will keep rising and the smaller car will thrive , they have good cars in the mondeo , focus and fiesta .

  • Planned Obsolescence

    A very sad situation, but one that surely been a place & time waiting to happen.

    The thing that intriques me is that the basic Ford product range is good, with all of their passenger vehicles either best in class or close to it, so assuming this is the case, you would have to say its not the product at fault, more the people who deliver & market the product.

    Does this mean that Ford Aus will now fall in line with the Ford Global plan with no unique Falcon, more than likely, however if this is what it takes to enable Ford to survive so be it.

    As far I can see, the only manufacturers who make a vehicle unique to their country are possibly Ford & Holden. Iam unable to see how given the economies of scale that both manufactueres face, this can continue in the long term.

    Although its happening to Ford Aust now, I dont think Holden can safely say they are immune from these cuts in the future either

    Cheers

  • ddd

    90% of fords problems are caused by their lack of a decent marketing dept. When the current falcon (fg) was released, it was said to be BY FAR the best car EVER made here bar none. All the magazines said it, all the reviewers raved.

    did ford tell anyone?…….. no, well they had an add trying to sell people walking fingers, but no mention of how good the car was ( and still is )

    EVERY add break on tv has a holden add, their customers beleive their korean made cars are dinky di tru blue aussie, their new cruise has less than 50% aussie content, and they still call it aussie made, not aussie assembled, and people are flocking in droves.

    Ford stopped giving funds to their v8 supercar teams, so, the teams defected, including the team that won bathurst 3 times straight for them! they couldnt even manage to keep last years championship winner, james courtney…

    absolutely NO IDEA

    RIP geoff polites, he would be roling in his grave! ( the man who saved ford aus with the BA falcon)

    • Andrew M

      The Ford and Vodafone sponsorship issue is a little deeper.

      When Ford released the FG race car Ford wanted Lowndes to to pilot it but 888 wanted Vodafone plastering on the release, so Ford had a stale mate and used someone else to do the job.

      This is where the shyte fight started. Ford then said they didnt want anything to do with the Vodafone team. Maybe a case of cutting off their nose to spite their face, but Im thinking there was a poor relationship anyway.

      Lets not also forget Ford allowed Lowndes to drive a Holden for a special event even though he was at the time contracted directly to Ford itself as their poster boy.

      I hardly think Ford was the unreasonable party, I think they just got jack of it

    • XR

      I totally agree with you ddd.

      There is NO CAR in the Australian market today that is more Australian than the Falcon. Yet if you were to ask anyone they would probably tell you the Commodore is more Australian. The key difference is the thing that actually powers these vehicles. The Inline 6 is an Australian icon while the Commodore unit is as Australian as George Bush.

      It extends beyond this to more extreme cases such as the Holden Spark, Holden Cruze, Holden Epica and Holden Captiva which are all rebadged Daewoo yet Holden have marketed them so well that people are stupid enough to regard them as Australian. If you think Im lying, google them and you will find them all with the Daewoo badge and a region specific name.

      Some might say that marketing only helps to an extent, but alliances between Ford v Holden are stronger than you may think and many people will only buy a Ford or a Holden and wont even consider the other brand (I know quite a few logical people who are like this… and Im not a bogan). This I believe is to a great extent because of succesful marketing by Holden who have created a stronger base than Ford which is assisted by this Australian image.

      Its truly a shame as I believe Ford sell superior vehicles. You have the Fiesta, Focus and Mondeo all from Europe and the Falcon and Territory which are more Australian than any other vehicles in the market. I would prefer every day of the week to have a European/Australia car over a Korean/American car.

  • Steve

    Truth is… Falcon is going FWD.

    • Andrew M

      Truth is its not decided, and if its no RWD, it will be AWD.

      On the other side of the fence Holden is also considering FWD, we dont see it plastered on the walls though do we??

  • ddd

    no its not, they say AWD

    and, pauly…

    guess what mate….

    ford AND holden V8 Sales are up massively while their 6 cyl sales are down.

    holdens commodore is not a better car than the falcon, at least not that much better that it sells 3 times as many.

    the commodore is australias most over rated car, yeah its good, and good value, but why oh why would it be number one seller. its no better on fuel than a falcon too.

    sadly i beleive someone at ford, weather it be us or au, is trying to deliberately kill the falcon, as it doesnt fit with their world plan.

    dont market it, dont update it, do bugger all with it, and let it die.

    i have blue blood, im a ford man thru and thru, but someone at ford needs to fry!!! it kills me to see them this way. there is absolutley no need for it!!

    and a tiny petrol engine in a big car??? ah mate, the tiny petrol makes similar power and more torque than the six, and WILL use less fuel. i suppose you were one of the ones that laughed when ford released the new v8 in a measley 5.0L, not looking to see the fastest car in oz beforehand was a tiny 4.0L ( SIX!! )

    the ecoboost will be all sorts of win, but once again, they wont tell anyone about it.

    Territory is getting GREAT reviews with its new engine, and it is VERY quiet and refined for an OLD engine. its an old ENGINE BLOCK with all new stuff attached to it, as is holdens 5.7 chev that kicked butt for so long…. no one cared it was a dinosaur, as it done its job amazingly… and so will the territory!

  • Phil

    1800 employees to make 260 cars a day?

    Even if sales were resonable, Ford would still struggle to make a profit with that many employees.

    Most imported cars come from fully robotic production lines. Maybe thats why they’re better screwed together than Australian made ones.

  • Radster

    I honestly think the problem ísn’t Ford Australia per say, rather Ford HQ in the USA. For them, Australia is a niche market and the Falcon an oddity that just does not fit into their global strategy at all. If it makes a profit as is, fine; but I would suggest that Ford HQ sealed the fate of local Falcon production behind closed doors quite some time ago.

    The fact they’ve delayed the 4-cylinder EcoBoost for the Falcon until next year makes me think it may not even happen at all. They might very well have a wait and see approach with the LPGi and forthcoming facelift in October. If these updates don’t at least stablise Falcon sales, I doubt the EcoBoost will go into the Falcon.

    Yes, large Aussie car sales have declined owing to shifting market demand, but Holden’s near-death experience has really taught them the importance of being savvy and providing a two-car production line. It also helps that Mark Reuss proved to be a brilliant strategist at the time and saved Holden from demise. The other factor in Holden’s favour (and will be again) is that unlike the Falcon, the Commodore was purpose-built for both local and export markets. As others have mentioned, Holden’s marketing is excellent as well, whereas Ford’s has proven somewhat lacklustre for the Falcon.

    My concern is that both Holden and Toyota might not survive as manufacturers in the long-term if Ford close shop. Parts suppliers just can’t sustain themselves properly by catering for only two manufacturers.

    Perilous times indeed.

  • t39

    I actually think the ford oz products are not very good at all.
    Falcon FG: I read the positive reviews and was ready to buy one. Test-drove the G6, it drives very poorly: very light steering with no feedback and abrupt ride. It was fast but that’s not enough by itself.

    Territory: drove brand new example, trim bits were shaking inside, wheels seemed not balanced (on a new car), bodyshell felt weaker than many imported cars. Dynamics were nice, but not matched by assembly quality.

    • http://Telsa paulb

      What did you end up buying? Dont say Korean,Japanese or European

  • TMG

    Bring out your dead, the dooms day is here, the death by a thousand cuts.
    Ford Oz Engineering is in great shape and is doing very well and is quite profitable for Ford OZ and Ford HQ, That’s why they can build niche cars here in OZ (and for that reason alone).
    Bringing the line speed down is better than stopping it altogether (Ford haters aside), and production realignment is quite common in any manufacturing industry.
    Yes Ford OZ have made many mistakes and dropped too many products, they may see it differently, those products were un profitable, or unable to be updated at current sales volumes (I.e. Wagon and RTV, why spend 200 million to sell 5000 or so a year if the return is not there, yes if done correctly volumes would increase but not to the levels to make it viable and sustained as a continued investment)
    As an armchair expert and avid supporter of manufacturing in Australia, as opposed to just using our Iron ore in products, this is what I want from Ford OZ (heck I might just buy another one of their products again)

    One- fall into line with One Ford, Build the Falcon on the same component set as the Mustang (with it being developed here in OZ like the Zeta Commodore) with the difference being OZ gets the cash to keep the I6, I6T updated with Di tech, LPI, the V8 option and Eco boost 4cy. Or from left field give them the Falcon to be used as the Lincoln Town Car replacement? And export please.

    Two – retain the Territory and build it off the same component set with adaption’s to suit the requirements of Eco boost, and Lpi, with diesel as well.

    Three-Build a small premium or family RWD model and SUV from the component set, and share it with the Lincoln something or rather, and export it.

    Four -Keep the Utes and make them the safest and most fuel efficient in class (yes this means Eco Boost and TDCi) so the fleets have to choose them over the competition, and light commercials (that are used for commercial use).

    But most of all just keep building cars and keep the engineering department going.

    • http://n/a Vaggeli

      Mate, I totally agree with you, Im an automotive engineer and have been saying this to my mates for a couple of years now. Ford OZ wouldnt be too difficult to turn around, just requires some investment that should\’ve been made 10 years ago. Problem is getting any government funds to back it up is gonna be hard after being given money then backtracking on LHD exports and local production of the focus.

      Essentially I reckon that if Ford Australias bosses had any brains they would do exactly as you said and pitch a shared platform with the Mustang and a future Lincoln product. Lincoln is languishing and needs more differentiation. At the moment they arent a brand but a trim level in the ford range. Ford america will say thats bull ,but just take a look at their cars to see its true.

      If you could get the investment both from Ford and the local govt if possible, Id build a mid-size RWD (optional AWD) sedan and crossover SUV (Falcon and Territory but a bit smaller) that could accept the new range of ecoboost and diesel ford engines. The australian market is downsizing, ford australia can too. This means even things like wheelbase could be shared with the smaller mustang as the new midsize offering would be smaller than the current falcon. You keep the americans happy with AWD available for all versions (sell well in the northern snow-belt states), you have AWD ready for the territory.

      the current ford australia component set is pretty good, the control blade rear suspension etc it great. but heres a thought, the mustang uses a live rear axle…and for cost reasons they dont want IRS…so offer both. design the IRS for high-end falcons, Lincoln models and territory (plus a potential lincoln crossover). the use a live rear axle for the mustang and potentially a dumbed down fleet special for oz (lets call it the cortina for old times sake eh)…and leave falcon/territory to be a rung higher. its the posh models that sell anyway. Heck, give lincoln a territory based crossover as well.

      Have two production sites, america doing huge volumes for lincoln and mustang, and oz to keep falcon/territory production and if ford goes global with lincoln, RHD exports. one LHD high volume facility, one RHD low-ish volume. Ford oz wont ever make the money the LHD one will but could keep local production going simply as they’ve made themselves a “centre of excellence” for RWD…a la holden.

  • http://Telsa paulb

    As mentioned above 3 CEO”S in 5 years has pulled the company to all points of the compass.We all know LPG,XR8,Station Wagon has hurt the Falcon.The global Ford plans fwd Taurus sunk like a lead anchor in AU.
    Things arnt good at the moment,but new models,new fuels LPI,new technologys are all on the horizon.Go Territory..

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au z80

    LOL…ALL WHEEL DRIVE FALCON???

    If you think that Ford australia will be giving you petrol heads appeasement concessions by building an All Wheel drive falcon then you’d better pull your head out of the sand and look around.

    The reason falcon isn’t selling is because it’s thirsty.

    It would add 20% more fuel consumption to an already inefficient platform.

    Come now….even LPG won’t save the falcon, the price is artificially low due to govt tax policy.

    Forget it Ford Australia, it’s all over but for a slow death.

    • http://Telsa paulb

      Even at full excise LPG will be under $1 per litre.LPI will cut Falcon running costs down below $10/100km..

    • charlie

      Thirsty? Compared to what? The FG that i have gets 11.7L city and 7.6L hwy.My 2011 hiace diesel gets 10.5L city and 9.7L hwy,so i think the old 4.0L is doing quite well.

  • Andrew

    Both commodore and falcon have endured the decades. from Ford dropping the v8 for the xf to Holden\’s ve1 interior quality, they have both over come the odds. I think they both deserve more respect than we as consumers give them.

  • kris

    Ford needs to launch the Falcon with a decent European sourced diesel. Its a good sized car for the average Australian family unlike some of the silly German econo boxes like golf branded as “premium” cars by motoring press.

    I just can not understand people’s mentality. BUY AUSTRALIAN MADE.

  • Mike

    Buy Australian? We would all like too, but we can’t compete with the rest of the world in manufacturing. Eg Korea made Kia and Hyundai.
    We have great designers, look at the new Ranger but it will be made overseas and will sell like hot cakes, I will be getting one, the issue with the Aussie ute, it’s good looking but useless as a ute, to get a nice one you get no ground clearance for Aussie conditions and has no useful payload,
    Ford Australia imported the mondeo a direct competitor to the falcon, but wont import a mustang, a car that comes in both coupe and convertible, something that ford Australia don’t make.

  • bangel

    Perceptions , the large sedans maybe more fuel efficient , but small cars look more frugal .

    However its the sedan body thats dead in the water , people want practical , hatches , lftbacks and wagons .

    Ford and holden will survive , but it will be smaller more diversified styles of car .

  • Patrick

    Truth is Ford America would close up shop in Australia tomorrow, they have been working towards this for the past decade by cutting models and the workforce down to a point that when they do finally close it will be so insignificant it will hardly make the news.
    Nissan sales went backwards for a few years after they close the factory but their sales have now rebounded and are greater than when they made the Pulsar/Bluebird here.
    To be honest I don’t know why Ford bother trying to beat a dead horse, they may as well just bite the bullet and ride out the pain for a few years and then come back stronger than ever as a full importer.

  • Andrew M

    They are actually riding out the pain right now by only having the shelves half full of product lines.

    Fords Future lies on the performance of LPi, Diesel Terry and ecoboost.
    Ford isnt about to leave this country, but the performance of their new models over the next 6-12 months will decide whether they are made to fall in line with a more global product line.

    LPi will instantly bring back the 25% of sales they have been missing due to not having the E-Gas available. Its also likely to pull some half decent private figures (subject to marketing)now the public is getting jack with fuel prices again.

    If Diesel Terry shares same sales ratios as other common SUVs, it can expect to double its sales.

    Ecoboost is said to have regained the big tick from fleets who are L/100K conscious.

    Ford has 3 Aces to pull in the coming months, buggers me why there is some sizable voids in their product offerings, but it is what it is and they now have to prove the wait was worth it.

    If they dont rebound, then I say they may switch the aussie plant to making the new Taurus which on a side note is a project Ford Aus is bidding on to engineer

    • http://Telsa paulb

      Andrew Territory can be as big as it was in 2004,showroom traffic can double along with sales.LPI gives AU security from global termoil.All we needed was a more efficient LPG system.LPI is that,Ecoboost is the cream on the cake.

  • Daniel D

    Territory will never be as big as 2004/05. Ford upset a lot of previous Territory owners with quality and build issues and then let the previous car get a bad name for rust and the ball joints fiasco that was all over the media. Add the $3500 premium for the model everyone wants (diesel) and they are just compounding the problem. The RRP prices are a pipe dream and will kill a lot of foot traffic into the dealerships.

    The new Territory can’t recover completely from all of that. If they get 70% of the old sales results, I would say that is an exceptional result. The fact they are scaling back production numbers so drastically suggests their own research on buyers in the market isn’t looking to good.

    FG Falcon is also paying the price for the B series Falcons.

    Ford haven’t learned that looking after your current customers is an important step in getting customers tomorrow. They have burnt a lot of people. They still act like there is only three car companies in Australia and consumers don’t have a choice.

  • Wayne Kerr

    As good as the Falcon product maybe, Ford has neglected to force their dealers / service centres to uphold customer service values.

    My list of experiences:

    - Waited 1hr for them to grab me a can of touch up paint.

    - Asked for a quote on a spare set of keys. The guy piled on the hundreds like it was nothing. “Hundred for the key, Hundred to program the key, Hundred for the remote, we’ll program the remove for free”.

    - Car service of 2009. “ECU recall” robbed my engine of torque. “Wheel alignment adjustment” made the car steer left on its own. “Idle valve adjustment” increased my fuel consumption by 10%.

  • http://Nissan Kazuo

    my friend had falcon as a loan car,he said its really terribly made,not as good as commodore and worse than honda accord.euro designed ford r much better.

    • Ford

      My mate who knows a mate who was mates with this other mate said the Falcon could fly but the Commodore could fly faster

  • PoisonEagle

    Perhaps if Ford does an environmental concept i.e. electric Falcon at Melbourne, perceptions will change.
    Also, everyone is so quick to write off Ford Oz, forgetting a fresh new Territory has just been launched. The Falcon is not down for the count, Tezza might sustain volumes until the facelift comes along.
    Speakin of which, I hope FG2 has self-parking and other features to make it appear less cumbersome to buyers. It’s debatable whether Bob Graziano is here to shut things down, or whether his team will pull out all stops to save Falcon like Geoff Polites did.

  • Paul

    Remember the recent news Holden almost closed up shop during the GFC, well Ford are in a much worse position than Holden now, and the Falcon and Territory are on their last days regardless of the facelifted Territory which is too little too late, explains why Ford are not supporting these 2 lines, why throw good money after bad.
    Ford are concentrating all their energy and advertising dollars on the imports only now.

    • bangel

      Yes its all over , my bro is a ford man as was my grandfather , but all the problems with his territory was too much , gone and forgotten.

      If you keep serving up average quality it comes back to bit you , people no longer believe the hype , reliability is very important .

      Read this weekends motor section in the AUSTRALIAN , the man himself tests a ford product and condems it .

      • Ford Fairlane

        You name is Bangel

        Is that after the car designer??

        Or the littie girls jewelry piece??

        • bangel

          Buy a dictionary , BANGLE is a bracelet .

      • Captain Nemo

        “If you keep serving up average quality it comes back to bite you , people no longer believe the hype , reliability is very important” Yet you yourself Bangel said you drive “Eurotrash” AKA Veedub Golf the perennial cellar dweller in reliability surveys.

        • bangel

          J d power UK RATES VW higher than euro fords , who knows where aussie fords would rate , down the bottom with fiat

  • BK

    50 plus years of the falcon shows how good a brand it is. Others will never get close to this achievement. Well done.

  • http://Telsa paulb

    I must be lucky,ive owned XY,XA,XC,XE,EL,AU,BA,BF.Some auto electrical faults,power windows+door locks.Thoes vechles span a 40 year period,never 1 issue on build quality

  • Paul Cantwell

    I see the biggest problem is in 1st looks.

    Fords look woosey, holden’s have a presence.

    To bad the Ford is a better car. They just do not look as good as a Commodore.

    By the way I own a FG XR6 Turbo ( ex Police Pursuit ) .

  • Showtime

    Ford Australia need to start manufacturing the Focus and Fiesta here as these models are what the market wants – fuel efficient, small cars that have a boot. I mean the RS Focus is up there with the STi, Evo, Golf R. The Fiesta is in my opinion only behind the VW Polo in the light car segment, but the Fiesta is a little bit cheaper.

    Ford needs these sales to continue making what is now a niche market, the big Aussie sedan.

  • DANNY

    some of those numbers are pretty drastic i knew ford was struggling but i didnt realise the extent of it.

  • save it for the track

    A big problem that Ford have is with the unions in the US. Australian RWD engineering has proved successful for GM and many acknowledge that the Falcon is a superior RWD platfrom compared to US Ford RWD designs. It seems though that Ford US are held hostage by their Auto unions, and the Ford US hierarchy seem bent on the ‘one Ford’ vision, not necessarily having the best from their global ‘family’ as the vehicles of choice in each market segment. They will try and look after their ‘home’ (the US) before considering global outposts and minnows such as Aus. Even GM are looking at moving RWD architecture and research out of Aus.
    .
    Paul. BA, BF, or FG ?? Either way, I would NEVER buy an ex Police vehicle, particularly a hwy patrol vehicle. If it’s a BA/BF, how many times has the suspension been replaced? I would also wonder how the brake discs are going, and if they weren’t replaced before you bought it, how long before the heatsoak that often takes place on Hwy patrol Police vehicles catches up and the discs need raplacement. I don’t know why anyone thinks it’s a good idea to buy an ex Police vehicle. You’d have to make significant savings of several thousands of dollars at the auction to allow for the potential and likely mechanical issues that will occur. 50 or 60,000km’s on a hwy patrol Police vehicle (particularly if it’s a city car) are far more grueling than 50 or 60,000km’s of driving by Joe public, even if they did some towing.
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    And if it’s and FG look out for the camber and toe issues that they are having.

  • DogzOwn

    There seems to be something missing here. Aren’t we forgetting that the car business is about return on capital? Obviously, despite all the taxpayer handouts, it’s not easy to make ends meet in Australia. In comparison, when you look at assembly lines overseas, they run at anything up to 100 cars per hour. If biggest seller Commodore is 4000 or so per month, it’s only a 5 day week of production by a single shift. Surely it’s time taxpayer handouts were punted on newer, more viable industry?

  • Joh

    The Falcon’s problem is that it is generally limited to Australia and New Zealand, due to not being designed for LHD format, and that Ford US treat it as if it does not even exist.

    Ford also got too conservative, the FG looking much like a shotgun marriage between an AU and BA – not to mention the fact that it is not being made in wagon (more sales to Holden in this department with their Sportswagon) and long wheelbase forms – Holden’s LWB Caprice is sent to the Middle East, the US and Asian markets – in LHD form.

    As for the approach of a 4-cylinder version – that does not bear thinking about. XR4 Falcon anyone?