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	<title>Comments on: New LS3 for HSV from April</title>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^^^^^Agreed with LOVE GTR.  In europe all the taxis are usually Beemers or Merc&#039;s which is normal over there.  But compareing it to australia we have commodores, falcons etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^^^^^Agreed with LOVE GTR.  In europe all the taxis are usually Beemers or Merc&#8217;s which is normal over there.  But compareing it to australia we have commodores, falcons etc.</p>
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		<title>By: LOVE GTR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOVE GTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam (aka mada). what u fail to realise is that comparing mercs with commodes are like comparing apples with apples. Mercs, BMWs etc are used as taxis in their home countries. One of the reason why there is such a price difference with the local dinosaurs are the taxes (including the luxury tax) the government places on imports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam (aka mada). what u fail to realise is that comparing mercs with commodes are like comparing apples with apples. Mercs, BMWs etc are used as taxis in their home countries. One of the reason why there is such a price difference with the local dinosaurs are the taxes (including the luxury tax) the government places on imports.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given HSVs links to Performance companies including TWR WPS and of course HRT surely they would be able to increase the power by more than a mere 10Kw with the LS3 - compared to the LS2.. C’mon Clayton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given HSVs links to Performance companies including TWR WPS and of course HRT surely they would be able to increase the power by more than a mere 10Kw with the LS3 &#8211; compared to the LS2.. C’mon Clayton</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Told ya Andrew M!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Told ya Andrew M!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always great to see a new engine releases.
What puzzles me, why de-tune the LS3 from 325kw to only 317kw?
Even though torque is identical to the LS2, the LS2 delivers the 550nm at a lower rev- which tells me the 6L revs better &amp; delivers power quicker.
I also noticed, the 0-100 time is the same spec as the LS2.
HSV have also taken the 1/4 mile figures of their website as well.
This tells me the LS2 uses less fuel, delivers power quicker than the LS3. So I wouldnt be worried about the engine change if I owned a HSV.
Will have to wait for real life testing to prove that theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always great to see a new engine releases.<br />
What puzzles me, why de-tune the LS3 from 325kw to only 317kw?<br />
Even though torque is identical to the LS2, the LS2 delivers the 550nm at a lower rev- which tells me the 6L revs better &amp; delivers power quicker.<br />
I also noticed, the 0-100 time is the same spec as the LS2.<br />
HSV have also taken the 1/4 mile figures of their website as well.<br />
This tells me the LS2 uses less fuel, delivers power quicker than the LS3. So I wouldnt be worried about the engine change if I owned a HSV.<br />
Will have to wait for real life testing to prove that theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy The Expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddy The Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goog, they are changing simply because the LS2 went out of production mid way through last year and their stock pile is now empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goog, they are changing simply because the LS2 went out of production mid way through last year and their stock pile is now empty.</p>
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		<title>By: goog</title>
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		<dc:creator>goog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and sparky no, holden didnt change to the ls3 because of the new fpv range, they probably doing it so the customers can get the newest technology under there bonnet&#039;s. and the ls3&#039;s are meant to do up very nicely :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and sparky no, holden didnt change to the ls3 because of the new fpv range, they probably doing it so the customers can get the newest technology under there bonnet&#8217;s. and the ls3&#8217;s are meant to do up very nicely :)</p>
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		<title>By: goog</title>
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		<dc:creator>goog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the sv6 really have a 220kw v6 in it? that should be good if they end up doing that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the sv6 really have a 220kw v6 in it? that should be good if they end up doing that</p>
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		<title>By: SPARKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPARKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holden is doing this because they know that FPV new range would beat their LS2 engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holden is doing this because they know that FPV new range would beat their LS2 engine.</p>
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		<title>By: FREDDY</title>
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		<dc:creator>FREDDY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChopstaR87 The facelift will have a 325kw LS# and the SV6 will have a 220kw direct injection V6. I have heard from a fella at holden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChopstaR87 The facelift will have a 325kw LS# and the SV6 will have a 220kw direct injection V6. I have heard from a fella at holden</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how can people speculate the weight differences between FG FPV&#039;s and VF HSV&#039;s?
you dont know for sure that the FPV&#039;s will see a greater weight load over the HSV&#039;s. 
for one, ford has reduced 22kgs in modifications made to the suspension on the FG alone. and then 4kgs or so that they reduced in re-modding the inlet.
and the HSV&#039;s wont add weight as they upgrade?

i think the weight difference will remain as it is. if not maybe ford will peg back a few kgs.

oh and Richo,
wasnt it wheels that started the 320kw rumour for FPV&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can people speculate the weight differences between FG FPV&#8217;s and VF HSV&#8217;s?<br />
you dont know for sure that the FPV&#8217;s will see a greater weight load over the HSV&#8217;s.<br />
for one, ford has reduced 22kgs in modifications made to the suspension on the FG alone. and then 4kgs or so that they reduced in re-modding the inlet.<br />
and the HSV&#8217;s wont add weight as they upgrade?</p>
<p>i think the weight difference will remain as it is. if not maybe ford will peg back a few kgs.</p>
<p>oh and Richo,<br />
wasnt it wheels that started the 320kw rumour for FPV&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: goog</title>
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		<dc:creator>goog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeh i agree there hsv senator.
And skaife should drive the new VE 11 and put it up on youtube sideways haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeh i agree there hsv senator.<br />
And skaife should drive the new VE 11 and put it up on youtube sideways haha.</p>
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		<title>By: HSV Senator Signature</title>
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		<dc:creator>HSV Senator Signature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This engine should of had 580NM of torque just like the corvette, but due to driveline restrictions it&#039;s still at 550NM also the torque curve is  higher than the LS2. I&#039;m sure the ve series 2 or most likly the VF will have 327KW at 580NM.
Guys don&#039;t forget the LS9 the supercharged version of the LS3; 465kw and 810NM of torque, this engine is in the new corvette ZR1 supercar 0-100 in about 3.2 secs and a top speed over 200mph this car is quicker than the ferrari 599, ford gt and the new lambo: out in 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This engine should of had 580NM of torque just like the corvette, but due to driveline restrictions it&#8217;s still at 550NM also the torque curve is  higher than the LS2. I&#8217;m sure the ve series 2 or most likly the VF will have 327KW at 580NM.<br />
Guys don&#8217;t forget the LS9 the supercharged version of the LS3; 465kw and 810NM of torque, this engine is in the new corvette ZR1 supercar 0-100 in about 3.2 secs and a top speed over 200mph this car is quicker than the ferrari 599, ford gt and the new lambo: out in 2009</p>
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		<title>By: JBiswellandkicking</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBiswellandkicking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another local company doing their best to reduce CO2 emissions and to improve overall fuel consumption of their product.
HSV=FPV=Holden=Ford = all doomed to be extinct just because they are american owned and their products are dynosaurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another local company doing their best to reduce CO2 emissions and to improve overall fuel consumption of their product.<br />
HSV=FPV=Holden=Ford = all doomed to be extinct just because they are american owned and their products are dynosaurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam (aka Mada)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam (aka Mada)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What german vehicle costs the same a s a base commodore with the same features!?
I&#039;m tired of people comparing vehicles that shouldn&#039;t be compared.
Wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What german vehicle costs the same a s a base commodore with the same features!?<br />
I&#8217;m tired of people comparing vehicles that shouldn&#8217;t be compared.<br />
Wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: ihatemycardotcomdotau</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatemycardotcomdotau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fuel economy is pathetic compared to more powerful German units.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fuel economy is pathetic compared to more powerful German units.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jakovljevic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jakovljevic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or more wannabe Mark Skaifes buying them ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or more wannabe Mark Skaifes buying them ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Itsnoteasybeinggreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itsnoteasybeinggreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there&#039;s more commodore crashes because there are more commodores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there&#8217;s more commodore crashes because there are more commodores.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jakovljevic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Jakovljevic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So whats next?

VeII with 6.5 litres?

VF with 7?

Its oh so easy when you dont actually try to increase techology to make power. Lets just steal the yanks bigger and bigger powerplants.

Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So whats next?</p>
<p>VeII with 6.5 litres?</p>
<p>VF with 7?</p>
<p>Its oh so easy when you dont actually try to increase techology to make power. Lets just steal the yanks bigger and bigger powerplants.</p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Atomic SSV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atomic SSV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont believe wher it says power was limited due to drivline strength limits.

The amount of people who have done mods to the 6L and they havent had to change any of the driveline components.

Sounds like when VF comes out power will increase more with a diff manifold and tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont believe wher it says power was limited due to drivline strength limits.</p>
<p>The amount of people who have done mods to the 6L and they havent had to change any of the driveline components.</p>
<p>Sounds like when VF comes out power will increase more with a diff manifold and tune.</p>
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