Comments on: Honda to sell 400,000 hybrids a year by 2013

By: No Name

No Name — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:35:41 +0000

TP you said “But a hybrid is still the most environmentally friendly.”

Wrong, how? a 1.5litre Prius does 6′/100km an 1.9lit diesel, as golfies states does say 4′s 100km. The CO2 output from a Prius is i think 119g/km and 1.9 diesel is about the (Polo Bluemotion does 99g/km) So your hybrid is using 30 more fuel and produces about the same CO2.

Also you stated “Various studies have highlighted the harmful gases that a Diesel emits, not necessarily harmful for the environment… but more diretly to humans!”

Petrol contains 15 substances hazardous to health much as diesel does so don’t go thinking that it only diesel thats a killer.

If the Prius is so successful why don’t Toyata upgrade it. Why cos its not financially economical. They have sold about 1.1million in ten years. The Skoda Octavia has sold 1M in 3 years.

By: Realcars

Realcars — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:55:55 +0000

Just out of interest Pickles have got some ex govt LPG only BFs xt sedans from 16 to 18k with most less than 30k.Many have the full safety pack as well.Talk about economical family motoring on a budget.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:37:19 +0000

Golf,
i agree,
im still banging my head on the desk as to why ford didnt invest in a LPG turbo model. you cant tell me that once the public see it with 10 or so kw more than petrol version with a saving of 1L/100k that that wouldnt help to turn the perception of LPG around

By: golfschwein

golfschwein — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:12:44 +0000

I’ve just driven home from a friend’s house in northern suburbia, 20 minutes away. The trip computer advised 3.8l/100km, my best ever achieved on a non-country journey. That’s 73 mpg, maybe a little less if the claim of VW’s slightly ambitious trip computer readings is to be believed.

Laurie Sparke, an ex senior Holden engineer came out fighting in support of LPG this week. Maybe support and exposure of that type is what’s needed to lift LPG from its current status of cottage industry curiosity to something more mainstream and serious.

By: Naughtyius Maximus

Naughtyius Maximus — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:50:29 +0000

TP….may you refresh your limited memory in respect to me being on here supposedly weekdays (during work!). REALCARS sums it up quite well! Dont throw shyte when not warranted mate as really quite stupid, makes your character sink to the lowest on this site. Iam rarely on or at arvo’s late. WAKE UP PLEASE! ITS ABOUT TIME!

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:14:33 +0000

TP,
your assesment of things seems to be only skin deep.

for one you see the power figure as a direct relation to a vehicles true speed and overall power,

and now you dont see that consumption is the big player in emissions.
do you know why diesel is more friendly to the environment?
because it has lower consumption.
diesel as a fuel is actually worse than petrol for its emissions when done on a Litre to Litre burnt comparison.
its the much better consumption of diesels that give it the “greener” credentials.
and then there is also the filters fitted to diesels now that also help.

i know i love to say it and ill say it again. LPG is where manufacturers should be investing a few dollars. LPG can deliver 8-10% better economy and power than petrol etc if it is set up on a dedicated engine rather than a conversion which makes for a compromise.

on a litre to litre comparison with burning LPG, LPG is roughly 50% better for the environment. it is the slightly higher consumption of LPG that sees mainly diesel peg it back, yet it is still better than Petrol and marginally better than diesel.
if someone spent just a little more time on LPG I’d reckon LPG would wipe the floor

also there wouldnt be the big problems with people fretting about oil supplies

By: Realcars

Realcars — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:02:56 +0000

Nm…My daytime reference relates to weekdays, people who are here during weekdays aernt workers… they are kids.

Gee TP u don’t get out much do u? 20 years old and haven’t popped your cherry yet eh?

I thought I knew it all too when I was your age so I empathise.

By: golfschwein

golfschwein — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:32:44 +0000

Cool, TP. I live in the inner city outskirts, so try to walk to most places. My annual mileage has reduced from 25,000 to about 17,000.

By: TP

TP — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:06:50 +0000

remembering oil is used for more then just petrol/diesel*

To address what Im doing Golf as well, I car pool… I only drive on weekends and not much either.

By: TP

TP — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:04:37 +0000

AndrewM you dont get it regarding Diesels and emissions, its not all about C02, but it appears this is beyond you. Various studies have highlighted the harmful gases that a Diesel emits, not necessarily harmful for the environment… but more diretly to humans!