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2011 Nissan GT-R Review

NISSAN GT-R

Pros: Power, performance, acceleration, handling, looks, value for money, uniqueness, legendary-status

Cons: Having to take everyone for a drive.

By Alborz Fallah |
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Price: $168,800

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The 2011 Nissan GT-R is turning the world of supercars on its head. For $168,800 you can own a sportscar that will shame almost anything at a set of lights and around a track.

The new update will see the R35 Godzilla do the 0-100km/h sprint in a staggering 3.046 seconds. That’s quicker than any Ferrari or Lamborghini you can buy today. In fact, it’s even quicker than the Pagani Zonda S, Porsche 911 Turbo S and Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG. All of which cost significantly more than this humble Japanese car.

The Nissan GT-R has earned itself a cult status in Australian car culture. Having made a name for itself back in the early ’90s at Bathurst and through the fascination of car fanatics everywhere, the Nissan GT-R is an icon of the modern era. Its inclusion in popular culture is so prevalent that you can be assured any 15- to 30-year-old self-respecting male with even the slightest interest in cars will be able to spot one a mile away.

When Porsche 911s all begin to look the same, the Nissan GT-R stands out in traffic like Bruce Lee in a sea of Steven Seagals.

Everyone loves the underdog, but what happens when the underdog begins to kick the ass of its once mighty competition?

Although it would be impossible to ever get a company spokesman to admit this, it’s pretty obvious that Porsche hates Nissan (in fact, Porsche has even taken legal action). Back in the good old days Porsche could single-handedly hold the ‘supercar for the road’ status without a need to look over its shoulders. These days, it’s gone so far the other way that the Germans are running as fast they can just to play catch up.

If you’re a Porsche enthusiast, don’t get me wrong (and please leave the hate mail for now), I love Porsches more than most and they exude a sense of character that is hard to find in the GT-R. Nonetheless, competition is healthy and when it’s as strong as it is from the GT-R, it’s better for the consumer.

To be fair, the Nissan GT-R doesn’t directly compete with any Porsche 911 in particular. In fact, according to the GT-R’s chief vehicle engineer and the car’s ‘Godfather’, Kazutoshi Mizuno, the GT-R has no competition, at all. Which is surprising given how many adverts we’ve seen where Nissan has picked on Porsche owners in an attempt to win over more customers (look here, here and here).

Regardless of how you look at it or what the official line is from either company, the R35 Nissan GT-R is a vehicle you can drive to the track, set the fastest time of the day and then drive to the shops for the weekly groceries. Its extreme performance, practicality and usefulness can only really be compared against the Porsche 911.

It was 20 years ago back in 1991 when the original Nissan GT-R32s finished 1-2 in the Australian Touring Car Championship and won Bathurst (the first outright victory by a Japanese vehicle). Nissan Australia decided to bring in 100 ADR-complaint GT-Rs (as part of the rules to compete in the series) and those were the only officially delivered GT-Rs by Nissan until the R35. Back then, they were powered by a 2.6-litre twin turbo straight-six engine with 223kW of power.

When the first R35 came to Australia in March 2009, it signalled a new direction by Nissan Australia as it began a brand building exercise. The base model was priced at an unbelievably low $155,800, with the GT-R Premium coming in at $159,800.

The 2011 model GT-Rs are only available in Premium guise and have risen in price by $8,000. For that you get a significantly quicker car, better aerodynamics, updated interior and whole list of other improvements.

To celebrate the launch of the MY11 R35 Nissan GT-R, the motoring media were brought to Melbourne where we drove from the CBD to Phillip Island race course. As part of the journey, Nissan Australia contacted two original owners of R32 GT-Rs to see if they’d like to join us for the drive, which of course they did.

Our convoy of GT-Rs battled peak our traffic as we made our way to Phillip Island through a series of twisty mountain roads and long straights to experience the supercar on road (all within the constraints of the law, of course).

The first thing you need to know about the R35 Nissan GT-R is that your grandmother could drive one. It’s as simple to operate as a Nissan Micra (in fact, even more simple if you have a manual Micra). The six-speed dual clutch transmission can be blisteringly quick when in ‘R’ mode or smooth and subtle when in ‘Normal’ mode.

As an actual day-to-day car the Nissan GT-R is not ideal. Not because it’s impractical or hard to drive, but because you’ll have an impossible time trying to keep your driver’s licence. At each and every moment the urge to touch the accelerator pedal is overwhelming. In a normal sports car this sensation would get a bit tiresome after a while, but with the GT-R it’s like having your own permanent Superman ride 24/7.

Any time you feel like a rush, just take it for a spin and flatten the accelerator. It will reach and overshoot the speed limit within seconds and leave you looking like a grinning idiot. In fact, I will go as far as to say the Nissan GT-R should be marketed as a cure for depression. It’s a rocket attached to wheels and the acceleration is so brutal that it reminded me of when I drove the Bugatti Veyron.

With the 2011 update, the VR38DETT 3.8-litre twin-turbocharged 24-valve V6 gains an additional 33kW of power and 24Nm of torque, bringing the total to 390kW (at 6400rpm) and 612Nm (from 3200-5200rpm). The uniqueness of the engine is exemplified as each unit is handcrafted by its own technician (referred to as Takumi in Japanese). Mr Mizuno told CarAdvice the engines actually have a higher power output than what is officially quoted, but he wouldn’t go into specifics.

The changes to the 2011 include higher boost pressure, different valve timing and air mixture ratio. The car’s micro-chip computer (ECU) has also been changed to now process information significantly faster.

The six-speed dual-clutch transmission has been modified to include an R-mode which when teamed up with the R-mode of the GT-R’s traction control can enable a brutal launch control system that delivers the impressive acceleration time.

The launch control system is extremely simple to use. Place all the switch gear in R mode, hold down the brake pedal with your left foot and flatten the accelerator. The GT-R’s computers will hold the revs at 4000rpm for three seconds. In those three seconds your job is to hold the steering wheel straight, let go of the brake pedal and make sure your head is resting on the seat otherwise a visit to the chiropractor will be mandatory.

When the car lets go there is next to no wheel slip and all that power and torque goes straight to the road. The GT-R accelerates with extreme fury and before you can even blink, it has hit 100km/h and shows no signs of slowing down.

There are two ways in which you can do the launch. One is to simply let the car do the gear changes for you. Doing it this way gets you a consistent 0-100km/h time of around 3.1-3.2 seconds. Or, you can do it yourself via the steering wheel-mounted paddle-shifters (which, if done right, can get you the 3.046 second official time). Japanese media have been able to get lower than the official figure doing it manually. The launch control will let you do it four times before requiring the transmission and other components time to cool down. Four times is more than adequate as your neck will be hurting by then anyway.

The Japanese company has updated the exterior of the MY11 GT-R with a reworked front and rear bumper, new diffuser for better rear airflow, a rear fog lamp, LED daytime running lights, newly developed Dunlop SP Sport MAXX 600 DSST CTT tyres, lighter-weight wheels and a 14 percent larger front grille for better airflow to engine and brakes.

Under the skin, a modified exhaust system and new catalyst have helped improve fuel economy and reduce emissions moderately. Nissan has even put in a ‘Save’ mode to help you save fuel when driving in traffic (if that statement made you excited, please stop reading now). The chassis now benefits from the introduction of lighter aluminium shocks. The front brakes have increased in size by 10mm to 390mm (slightly less thickness than before for better heat exchange).

The exterior changes have allowed for the drag co-efficient to be reduced by a further 0.1 over the MY10 model, now down to just 0.26 Cd. To put that into perspective, the 911 is 0.28 or 0.29 Cd depending on model. In fact, the new GT-R’s drag is now pretty much comparable to the Toyota Prius with 0.25 Cd.

Sit inside an R35 Nissan GT-R and you’ll know instantly that it’s not a supercar. Although it may be able to keep up and even overtake the mighty Italian and German supercars, it lacks the same feel inside. That’s okay, because it’s less than half the price of any European supercar that even comes close in matching its performance figures.

In saying that, it’s not a bad place to be. It’s by and large a comfortable and pleasant cabin to find yourself in. The new Recaro-designed sports seats can fit an average-sized adult with ease and provide enough support for both road and track. The GT-R’s famous computer system lets you custom select pretty much anything you want to know about the car and display it on a clear screen. That can range from G-forces, oil pressure, acceleration, transmission temperature and an almost endless list of choices.

The rear seats are pretty useless to any grown adult but still handy when friends and their girlfriends are desperate for a ride.

The stereo system supports Bluetooth for both audio streaming and phone connectivity (although in the few minutes that I attempted to get my iPhone 4 connected, it was either going to do one or the other).

We can talk all day about the MY11 changes, but at the end of the day it’s all about how the car feels. After our three-hour drive program from Melbourne to Phillip Island, it was time to put these incredible machines around the track. Unlike last year, the good folks at Nissan now trusted us enough to take the car out on track solo and without the aid of professional race drivers sitting shotgun.

Phillip Island is a fast and technical track, but the GT-R makes it easy. After 15 laps around the track by myself, I nearly refused to come back in the pits. The key point of driving a GT-R fast is to realise its limits, because regardless of what you might think, you’re unlikely to ever reach them. Coming out of the main straight you jump on the brakes as late as possible and let the GT-R flow into the right hander. You can carry so much speed that it becomes a game of seeing just how much courage (or madness) is within you.

The GT-R is an extremely forgiving car on track. You can floor the accelerator any time you want at any speed and it will work it out for you. Around Phillip Island’s tight corners, a wannabe racer (such as myself) will be made to feel like Lewis Hamilton and herein lies the GT-R’s greatest secret: making the Playstation generation think they are much better drivers than they really are. While a Porsche 911 GT3 RS requires extreme skill and finesse to get the most from, a Nissan GT-R requires courage. Don’t get me wrong, you still need to know how to drive to get the best lap times but where a Porsche might step out and try to get you killed, the GT-R will simply forgive you and fix up the mess.

To give you an example, the professional racing-car driver that took me around for a lap after I was done managed a 1:44.20 lap time on road tyres with yours truly in the car. This was a GT-R that had already done many, many hotlaps. He said a 911 GT3 RS ($341,100) can only do it about 3.5 seconds quicker on slicks without passengers! You can see why Porsche hates Nissan.

Mr Mizuno’s mission with the GT-R was to create a supercar that everyone can drive and part of that requirement was its forgiving nature. Porsche purists and other motoring journalists have always argued that cars like the GT-R are just too heavy and take the fun out of driving, but I can assure you, the old-school thinking is on the way out. The Nissan GT-R is an exhilarating car to race and drive around town. As the photo below shows, at least this former 911 owner thought the same thing.

Nissan Australia has sold about 300 R35 Nissan GT-Rs since the vehicle’s 2009 launch. So it also happens to be far more unique than a 911. The 2011 model is the pinnacle of what Nissan has to offer car lovers and in this reviewer’s humble opinion, it’s the absolute bargain of the century when it comes to the performance-to-price ratio.

Speaking to a few owners that showed up to the GT-R day, the ever dreaded cost of ownership was not as big of an issue as some have come to believe. Sure, it requires servicing and that’s going to cost you more than servicing a Tiida, but think of it this way: if you want a car that will go from 0-100km/h in 3.0 seconds for under 200k, you can argue all you want about cost of ownership, the GT-R is still a bargain.


 

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2011 Nissan GT-R Review
When Porsche 911s all begin to look the same, the Nissan GT-R stands out in traffic like Bruce Lee in a sea of Steven Segals.
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  • Damian

    I just hope that Nissan lowers the ownership cost of the GTR. But then again, $168k for supercar beating performance must come with some compromises. Maybe some local tuners like Willal Racing will make the GTR ownership experience a little more economically viable. It’s still a winning package.

  • Joker

    Indeed. It is the BFYB Blitzkrieg..

    LOL at the guy with 997 Turbo Plates on his GT-R :D
    Gold! Indeed Porsche will be p!ssed!

  • Damian

    The Porsche 911 Turbo/GT2/GT3 just look too politically correct with their round and slim profiles. The average layperson would not be able to differentiate between a Cayman and a 911. The last thing I’d want is anonymity when I am paying in excess of $300k for a car.

    The GTR, in contrast, looks tough from every angle. The only two contenders that look as imposing are the Lamborghini Murcielago and Audi R8.

  • Luke

    Always been a Porsche man in the Nissan v Porsche battle but there’s no denying how awesome the new GT-R is. Just insane.

  • Jimmy James

    What’s the steering feel like in comparison to a porsche?

    For me, drag races mean nothing.

    I like Porsches because they have tactility in spades, because you can buy one with a manual gearbox, and because they have the best steering feel of any car, bar none.

    They are not as fast as the Nissan. Not much is.

    But the Nissan lacks soul. Its a device for crushing distances with technical disdain. Its ballistic, but not balletic.

    The Porsche is engaging, visceral, simple. It challenges you to learn its way, to feel its limits, and become a better driver as a result.

    For me, a Porsche is fast enough, and I like fact that Porsches don’t scream LOOK AT ME. Not all people who can afford cars like these want to be noticed…they like things a bit discreet (obviously I’m talking about a Carrera S or Turbo, not a stickered and bewinged GT3 RS!)

    The Nissan is a towering achievement to be respected.

    It has shifted the performance goalposts, no question.

    But for me, I still covet the cars from Stuttgart!

    Anyway, each to their own…!

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ Alborz Fallah

      Thanks for your comment Jimmy,

      The steering feel is great, direct and with lots of feedback. Heavy when it needs to be and light when its suited. In fact, it can go into 2WD drive mode when coming out of car parks or tight spaces (under 10km/h and hard lock).

      Having previously driven the current GT2 and Turbo I will agree that Porsche does the steering better, and that it has more ‘soul’ as you say.

      Think of the GT-R as a giant robot, it may lack the character, but it’s ridiculously efficient at kicking butt.

      It’s funny that we now refer to Porsche’s as cars with souls, back in the day when people compared porsche to ferrari they would always say the Ferrari has more soul (still does). The GT-R has character, it just has to be loved first and then you’ll see it. It’s very clinical and easy to drive so it seems as though it has no character but hammer it in and out of corners and the back will momentarily try and step out but its computers will correct it.

      I would love to drive the GT-R without any electronic aids and see how it goes, but alas it wasn’t possible at this event.

      • Jeff_T

        Pretty immature of you Alborz to rubbish & ridicule Porsche like this. Makes you sound like a 15 yr old fanboy who buys a car for traffic light drags & the occasional track day. That’s all sports cars a for right?

        • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ Alborz Fallah

          I am trying to work out where I’ve rubbished or ridiculed Porsche (please do let me know).

          The GT-R is not all about straight line speed, as you may know, it’s stupidly quick around most race tracks (as mentioned in the article). It not only goes fast in a straight line but it also corners like you wouldn’t believe.

          If you want a dedicated track car, you can’t look past a GT3 RS, but hey, if you can’t spend a good part of 400k and want a car that can actually be used for other things, it’s also hard to look past the GT-R.

          • Jimmy James

            Jeff_T has taken leave of reason. Where did Alborz bag Porsches?

        • bob

          Always wonder why people like you (Jeff_T) come out from under their rocks and speak. You should have stayed under it.

          Great article Alborz.

        • Hayzel

          Alborz just ignore JEFF_T he is a retard..he is a diehard porsche fan boy and will not listen to reason. Instead he will make up his own bases of assumptions and attack people who does not think the same way he does.

    • Andrew L

      Definitely each to their own.

      It’s the antique road show, when primitive objects like an alpha romeo be loved because it’s air conditioning does not operate or that it’s window wipes fall of during the rainy season, again..

      In the future when flying ships are made for intergalactic travel lets wish you could peddle it around the galaxy using primitive technology because it has soul. lol. Give me and yourself a break.

      • John Adams

        You do have a point. Technology should not be incorporated if it hinders the process. In the GTR’s case technology actually assist it’s ability. How it will hold up in the future? well that’s the future to find out for now it appears as though the technology in the GTR is doing what it’s intended to do. The technology can only get better

  • dimka

    I do not think the GTR is a bargain in any shape or form. Yes the price of the car is not as high as equivalently performing German cars but:
    • Nissan has an interior equivalent to a 50K car,
    • Nissan has the ride, NHV, comfort equivalent to a 50K car,
    • Nissan build quality is not the same as German build quality and design and I’m not talking pure mechanical but every part of the car.

    The Germans build great car packages, they don’t only concentrate on performance but also on every other aspect of the car. What Nissan did with the GTR was purely concentrate on the performance and ignore the rest hence yes its cheaper, but that’s purely because you are not getting a 170K car when it comes to every other aspect of a car. If Nissan was to actually invest into every element of the car (like the germans do) the GTR would not be a 170K proposition but more like double it.

    • ZeOwner

      A great part of the Nissan’s interior is hand made, infact you can go the GT-R EGOIST route and watch them make it for you.

      Go sit in one before you say it’s noisy and has a bad interior. My 2010 GTR was a step from my 996, much more enjoyable as a day to day car.

      I know a friend who traded in his Gallardo for a GT-R! Now that should tell you something…

    • Damian

      Dimka, your reasoning, whilst valid for the average layperson, will never have a car enthusiast convinced.

      Going by your logic, cars such as the Porsche GT3 RS and BMW M3 CSL should be worth significantly less than their better equipped equivalents, simply because they’re better appointed. If this is the case, I am afraid the whole motoring scene disagrees with you. The aformentioned cars are worth significantly more than their better appointed equivalents.

      Furthermore, if the GTR’s interior is equivalent to a $50k car, then a 911 GT3 interior would be equivalent to that of a $20k car.

    • Andrew L

      Everything Germany built blah blah. That prestige cache is all in the head. You should go see a psychiatrist and tell them how great ‘you’ think Hitler was. Its always so comical people without class always try to seek it. Its the person that makes the car not the other way around. You think no ones going to over take you or give you the finger if you start driving a hummer around puh lease

    • bob

      Really? Define German for me?

      I have a 2010 VW, which is German, and has been in the shop 5 times already. I have another friend who bought a 2009 Tiguan and had the engine rebuilt. I have another friend with a 2010 BMW 320d which has also been in the shop multiple times. Get the pattern?

      So, stereotyping all german cars as “great car packages” is going a little overboard. In fact, I see quite a few german manufacturers cutting corners more and more as of late to reduce costs, resulting in poorer build quality.

    • Hayzel

      Sick of people trying to force their OWN BIAS OPINION AS FACTS!!

      Dimka said:
      “Nissan has an interior equivalent to a 50K car”
      …YOU THINK THAT! I DON’T

      “Nissan has the ride, NHV, comfort equivalent to a 50K car”
      …YOU THINK THAT! I DON’T

      “Nissan build quality is not the same as German build quality and design and I’m not talking pure mechanical but every part of the car”
      …YOU THINK THAT! I DON’T

      Look at how bias that bs are……

      • dimka

        Well actually it’s not just my opinion but the opinion of many magazine reviews. Every review so far has praised the performance of this car and I would agree with them having driven an older generation however many reviewers who do not just concentrate on performance but other criteria’s as well have come very unimpressed with the cars ride comfort, road compliance, interior noise and so on …

        These days most buyer tend to expect to get a product that does not just fill a niche spot but actually satisfies a wide range of needs. That includes performance, comfort, quality, and prestige and on that basis is why the AMG C63 or equivalents sell so well and are so popular. All I was trying to say is the GTR seems to be very one dimensional i.e. only track performance oriented … however with the continuously reducing speed limits these days, deteriorating road quality (Sydney), and general increase of camera/police presence on our roads … cars like the GTR become more of a pipe dream than an actual practical reality …

  • Shak

    CA is that Matte GTR going into production, because it looks really cool!

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ Alborz Fallah

      Yes, it’s just amazing looking on road as well. It seriously looks like a stealth fighter.

      It’s actually an 09 model that Nissan AU had Vinyl wrapped for some attention and it really worked.

      It will cost you about $4-5,000 to do. Probably good to do it after you’ve had enough some stone chips…

      • Shak

        Yeah, i heard you cant wash them either or paint them or it’ll ruin the Clear coating that makes it look matte, is that true?

  • adam smolkowicz

    Would love to get my hands on one of these puppies

  • john

    why doesn’t anyone comment on the cost of servicing a porsche? Or is the unwritten rule you only comment on their competitors costs. By the way why don’t you find out what the actual running costs are to 80000km for both and publish this data?

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ Alborz Fallah

      Porsche servicing is not neccesarily cheaper, but not as frequently required. A fair few owners race their 911 GT3RS or GT2RS on a monthly basis and service them twice a year. That wouldn’t be recommended for the GT-R.

      Measuring running costs is hard given the cars may be tracked or not. If the GT-R is never tracked, it’s actually relatively cheap to maintain. It’s only when you start regularly tracking it that service costs go up, but then again, if you take care of any car properly, it needs a service after each track session to flush the fluids…. unless its a Porsche.

  • Jimmy

    Such an impressive piece of engineering.

    The GT-R is the Veyron of its category.

    • Nobody

      fyi..Evo 10 is a baby GTR and GTR is a baby Veyron.

  • Fordman

    The Nissan GTR looks and is a BEAST

  • M

    As a price and spec comparo – why is the GT-R never considered as an alternative to the M3, C63, RS5??? The 911 is such a different style again and the base model a load more expensive than the GT-R…starting to think I should have driven the GT-R when I bought an M3…

    • HP

      Going purely on price the GT-R can be compared to the M3, C63 and RS5 as it only costs marginally more but the point of the GT-R is that it has the performance figures to match cars that are double the price.

      If you compared the GT-R to the other 3 based on performance then then M3, C63 and RS5 wouldn’t stand a chance; they’re in a completely different performance league.

      • M

        Cheers HP – agree completely – leads to the question – is Nissan not interested in selling the GT-R in greater qtys??? Why would they not more heavily market these performance stats so people buying a 2door RS5 or M3 do not at least try the GT-R??? Their pricing, dimensions, seating capacities etc are similar, the RS5 is also AWD…if it blows the others away – then there should be less C63s, M3s etc on the road and more GT-Rs…

        • Trump

          Love the car. I took a holiday to Japan in 2009 to rent one for the day. Amazing performance even without these recent improvements.

          Why the price increase though when the $AUD increased 30% in the last year and is forecast another 10% this year?

          Is it because Nissan Aust can only get hold of a fixed number and have decided that they can still sell the fixed quantity at a higher price?

          Seams like the Aussie car buyer gets screwed over everytime by every manufacturer but non more so than in this case. I would have purchased one already had they been a similar price to those delivered in the US plus any Luxury tax & GST applicable here. Seams Nissan Oz just wants to fleece as much as possible out of local purchasers.

          Are you too scared to bring this up with Nissan Alborz/CA? Would this potentially see you not invited to future product launches?

  • christo

    this is funny. All this talk about the GTR being better than a 911 is nuts.

    Car Magazine UK just put a 2011 GTR up against a Porsche Cayman R and the Porsche won so how a GTR possibly be better than a 911?

    • Andrew L

      Oh here we go, how many Magazines have pitted the GTR up against all odds it won the majority of the time. Pull that fascist head out of your ahole and take a breath of fresh air. Arten senna’s son drove a 911 then a gtr and the gtr beat it by seconds. Lets list all the awards of the new porsche against the new GTR.

    • Jimmy James

      Christo, stop and think about what you’ve posted.

      Then do some research and you might find that, awesome as the 911 is, from a pure handling and balance point of view, many respected motoring experts around the world believe the Cayman is superior to the 911.

      What was the rationale presented by Car UK that led them to the conclusion that the Cayman R was better than the GTR? What aspects of the car elevated it above the GTR? Were there other cars in the test?

      Simply quoting a test result without any context or a link so we can read it for ourselves adds nothing to the discussion.

      • Christo

        dont have a go at me, I didn’t write the article. Why don’t you get this months Car Magazine and read it for yourself and do you own research, it’s all there. Not only did the cayman beat the gtr it also beat an m3 and the lotus evora.

  • zanzi

    it may be “bargain” in other countries. but here in australia at 170k its still VERY expensive and you would still have to be rich to buy one. and if i was rich i’d still get the Porsche Turbo. i’ve had the opportunity to drive both and i must say a 6 speed manual 997 turbo is such an exhilarating experience i cant even begin to describe it. its a very special car you get butterflies every moment you’re in it. and you can actually feel the speed, it’s tremendous and frightening. where as the nissan was a very fast and easier to drive and slightly heavy car, and ultimately simply more boring than the turbo

    i have to admit though i only drove them in twisty roads and highway, not the track but still pushed them as much as i could. so this is were it all comes down to, do you track or not? i personally dont so i dont give a flying toss who has faster nurburgring lap times. At 160-170k, i’d also rather get an m3 coupe. yeah less horsepower and slower lap times but still funner (FOR ME, IN MY OPINION) in the real world than the gtr

    • http://CarAdvice Been There

      I actually found the Porsche Turbo and the GT-R similar in experience.

      Both a bit boring.Both very fast!!

      Strange re your comment about the weight you felt on the GT-R as it is the best masked car ever covering its 1800kg..as it feels almost lightweight

      Sounds strange I know.. but both cars just miss the mark in Supercar or high performance ownership…passion and theater!!

      Picture this..Wake up on a Saturday Morning,grab the key and start your Lamborghini Superleggera in your garage.

      The hairs on your arms stand up and the adrenalin starts flowing.

      The Porsche and the Nissan are both fine cars and do things better than other exotics try but isn’t ownership about excitement,anticipation and most of all passion about whats in your garage.

      Don’t own a Leggra anymore but OMG they are one tough passionate car and what I now judge all cars against for the intangible..hairs on the back of the neck.

      Agree the M3 is a lot of fun and one very well put together car.

      • Steve

        You want fun? Nothing beats a GTR! I have driven all 3 cars – 997 Turbo, GTR and GT3. Yea the GTR and 997 both are quicker (and great cruisers) but nothing excites like a GT3! (even the m3 is boring in comparison lol)

        • Steve

          i meant to say nothing beats the GT3 for fun….

  • http://CarAdvice Been There

    As a previous owner of a MY 09 GT-R let me share some thoughts.

    I used it as a daily driver and tracked it on a regular basis.

    As a performance proposition nothing really comes close of the factory floor and it is a absolute steal in $$ terms.

    I really don’t get the interior thing some mention as it was comfortable and I am don’t drive around admiring the interior.

    It was all functional and did everything right.

    Servicing though is the killer.You will not escape from Nissan with a bill under $1500 and it can go up to $3000.

    And be prepared for tyres every 5-8k at $3200 a set.

    The car is one of the most confident inspiring cars on the track I have ever owned and it will allow you to drive at 11/10ths without fearing for your life..

    It is a car that has no Theater when you own and live with one and in driving it is soul less..but its thrilling.

    Sort of like the big dipper.

    The senses are going crazy but you don,t feel a attachment.

    You certainly feel one with the car on the edge but the intangible is not tangible.

    Porsche and the GT-R aren’t comparable as they are 2 different approaches.

    Neither is right or wrong..just one regularly out performs the other now.

    I don’t miss mine now after a year of ownership but I certainly don’t regret the experience.

    Re German Cars(which I own)..yes they are nicer finished and built very nicely but they are certainly not worth 2-3 times the money.

    In summary..if you have the money go buy a GT-R and enjoy the thrills and the experience(which I recommend) but the reality is they are not a keeper.

    • M

      Great post Been There – and the final lines nail it – the GT-R is not a keeper – that’s not a negative – but a perfect summary of this vehicle.

    • ze scheister

      $1500 service? What the hell are they doing for $1500? Did it come with a ferrari loan car or something? 5 litres of Mobile 1 Synthetic (factory choice) is only $80 + $40 for a genuine filter. $160 if you want redline. $30 for plugs which you dont need every time. $1500 they are having a laugh mate you got done big time

      • Adonis

        Mates with E320 and 330Ci regularly pop $1500 a service – euro standard cost my friend

  • TBS260z

    Nissan has turned its back on what made the GTR famous. The GTR was never meant it be a supercar, rather everyman’s sports car. The skyline GTR was tuners heaven now its completely pointless and cost prohibitive. It has become in accessible and irrelevent to the people that made it famous. Yes some of the bigger tuning shops are still tuning it but how many GTR owners will buy their parts to improve a supercar? I can only hope they build a Skyline that is an evolution of the R34 and sells for around 60K with NUR and other editions upto 80K. It should have a 2.6TT and be reasonably fuel efficent not a 3.8L. Hopefully they see the business case for this and maybe even a new silvia to battle the FT-86.

    • ze scheister

      hey gus, gtrs were never cheap new, the 32/33/34 were all over $100k and the nUr 34 was $180k or something

  • Mih

    awesome writeup Alborz!! You are by far my favourite editor in CA, top notch reviews and also replies to questions asked with respect!

  • Saggy

    3.046 seconds. I just cannot get over this. Truly staggering. My Hayabusa is slower than that!

  • darkone

    bring on the lotto win,I am heading straight to a nissan dealership,one in that nice blue colour will do,as for the porche fans,they may be a good vehicle,but the donk is in the wrong end and I still reckon they look too much like an overpriced VW beetle.I would take the gtr anyday,friend of mine has a skyline gts -t rear drive and that thing goes like a rocket, on that assesment my mind is made up.

  • The Realist

    I’d get a Holden W427 – it’s just so much better value for money than this at only $155K. It’s also quicker, better built, has more features, and has the world’s best 9 litre V8.

    Holden goes better!

    • http://CarAdvice Been There

      Huh?????

    • Hayzel

      HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

    • K20A

      Classic!!! You are forgiven (for all your misstatements of W427 being faster, better value for money, better built, etc.), for the fact that you close your post with the company’s marketing slogan. Gold!

    • Peopl3mova

      It has a 7 litre engine?

  • Jimmy James

    Congratulations to The Realist for posting the most amusing reader comment in the history of humans. I read it 20 mins ago and I still havent stopped laughing.

    I’m going to take a massive stab in the dark and suggest your real first name is either Shane, Gavin, Wayne or Trevor.

    Unless of course I am mistaken and you are in fact comedian Dave Hughes.

    • shane

      whats wrong with shane?

  • http://www.santamonicanissan.com/ Nissan Los Angeles

    I think Nissan’s GT-R is indeed a super-car that can beat with the top of the line exotics. However some drivers will probably prefer a Porsche or Ferrari due to the brand and prestige (which Nissan lacks) but the GT-R will beat them all at the race track.

  • Classic

    Can someone please tell me how Nissan can at one end of the spectrum make a car so desirable & technically advanced as the GT-R, and then at the other end be satisfied with giving us things as undesirable as the Tiida and Maxima? An opportunity lost in terms of the investments they have made in the GT-R it seems.

    • Jimmy James

      Great post Classic. I wholeheartedly concur!

    • M

      Sadly – the others (Tiida/Maxima) pay the bills – nothing like some boring old bread and butter to feed the corporate beast…

      • MattW

        Exactly. Senior citizens don’t buy GT-Rs

  • SHANE PALMER

    350 chev 350 chev 652 chev burn tha tyres right ofa thas thang

    • Peopl3mova

      wow

  • random month

    Alborz, I’d be interested to hear what your assessment of the ride quality was? I’ve read that, despite Nissan’s promotion of the vehicle as an ‘everyday’ supercar, the ride quality is anything but, with anything nastier than marble-smooth bitumen inducing jarring impacts and annoying jiggle. Comparison to the 911 or even to the latest FPV would be appreciated.

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ Alborz Fallah

      Don’t know where you’ve read that but it’s not true. GT-R is a hard ride but it’s no harder than say 370Z or Golf R. So definitely simple to live day to day.

  • Andrew L

    All I read was GWAH Gwah, safari hunting trophy bludgen’n moron. Well you can’t really hate japanese car if you came to read about the almighty GTR. You sure you’re not a closet Japanese car admirer?

    Die/Try Hard Holden lovers are really confused individuals. They mascot picture is a lion, but a commodore is essentially a bird. Atleast the ford drivers have their head on straight with that, they actually have a bird as their emblem. You know why they call it V8 thunder and not lighting, because its just a noise you hear in the rear view mirror. All TORQUE AND NO TRACTION

    • Robert

      haha well said. holdens emblem is a lion but isn’t fords emblem a blue oval with the words ford written it. haven’t seen that bird you are talking about unless you are talking about FPV

  • Frostie

    Just a couple of things are missing.

    RB engine and HICAS.

    Now I know the reason why they ditched HICAS, but that was a HUGE mistake anyway. But if anybody disagrees with having a V6 instead of an Inline-6 please tell me why.

  • Frostie

    My mistake
    Swap V6 with Inline-6 and vice versa.

  • gletty

    i didnt read throught the multitude of comments above

    I just wanted to say thanks, for a great write up, creating the visual and making a common fella like me feel special for 6 minutes :)

  • Noely

    SHIFT_words fail

    That’s all I can explain.

  • MattW

    “all within the constraints of the law, of course”. Yeh right ;) And I’m sitting here at my desk doing work instead of surfing the net ;)

    Just for once, I’d love an invite to one of these days… just once

  • Sam

    i hate jap cars but i loooooveeee this thing.

  • Buck

    Great write-up and no question this car is a giant killer.
    Interested punters would be very well advised to ask for a fixed price quote from their Nissan dealer for the first three years scheduled servicing, (excluding any addittional track day servicing), so at least they go in with their eyes wide open.

    If they won’t give you one then it begs the question what are they hiding or more to the point how much of a hiding will they give you ?

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    i have to agree on the “place your head on the headrest” bit.i driven alot of hairy-chested v8′s,and honestly they have nothing on this beast.the headrest is pretty hard too(when my head smashed into it).the top gear ambo bit i reckon was ridgy didge…

  • Joel W

    best car in the world…

  • Andy M

    Love the GTR but for pure grunt and driver fun can’t beat a Shelby Mustang GT500 Super Snake. With a 750HP supercharged V8, the mean looks and meaner note, now that is a REAL brute car for real men and not mice. What more can I say. Now who dares disagree.