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2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower Review

April 18, 2008 by Matt Brogan  




2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower (Linear) Estate & Sedan Review

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Despite a decent engine the 9-5 is being left behind

Model tested:

  • 2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower Linear Sport Estate and Sedan 2.3-litre turbo petrol automatic – $63,900 (RRP).
  • Metallic Paint: $1300 (Fitted); Leather Seats: $4000 (Fitted); 17″ Alloys: $1250; Load Pack: $300; Tech Pack: $3000; Lux Pack: $4000; Sports Chassis: $750; Stereo Upgrade: $1500; Smoker’s Pack: $50 (Fitted); Roof Rails: $500 (Fitted); Walnut Veneer: $1250; Heated Rear Seats: $500.

plus.jpg Smooth Transmission, Responsive Engine, Comfortable.

minus.jpg Out Dated, Over Priced, Average Driving Dynamics, No E85 fuel.

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- by Matt Brogan & Alborz Fallah

Matt – I always had a thing for Saab as a kid, most especially our neighbour’s black 900 Aero, and as a former aircraft maintenance engineer have even had the pleasure of working on Saab aircraft. The marque has a fine history and I always took Saab as a lovely luxury car that sat in that status of an elite few, a car you’d be proud to own. So would a week with the 9-5 change my mind?

Now many Saab zealots will jump down my throat upon reading this, so please understand I am not being harsh just for the sake of being harsh, I’m simply trying to impress upon you that as someone who reviews dozens of cars a year I believe this vehicle is simply not worth the asking price. I mean option it up a little and you’re very quickly over the $80K mark!

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For starters, the design is out-dated, it desperately needs re-modeling and leaves the 9-5 ostracised from the more modern styling of its competitors, further stretching the argument that you’re getting a lot less for your coin than you could elsewhere.

Sure, it’s comfortable and everything works rather well, especially the sometimes over zealous climate control, but it looks old, is rather basically spec’ed for a premium vehicle and lacks a lot of the character the brand had a decade ago. Frankly, it’s boring, uninspiring, and whilst it’s hardly likely to ever do anything wrong, you’re just missing out on so very much comparatively speaking.

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As a big car, I was expecting much more in terms of space, but sadly little is offered in the way of innovative storage, and the internal proportions are certainly no more than you would expect of even a medium sized modern wagon, most especially in the rear leg room department. Plastic rattles were noticeable on coarser roads and some of the fittings appear frightfully last decade.

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Comments

25 Responses to “2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower Review”
  1. Jausho says:

    To sum it up: This car will make you hate driving. (It was gettin there with me!).

    Perhaps that’s the motive behind Saab’s BioPower concept?

  2. Casey says:

    I like that you guys have the balls to tell it as it is – well done.

    SAAB, get with the program!

  3. SteveR32 says:

    My previous car was a SAAB. (the ex’s choice! grrrr)

    I recently sold it after after the 3 year lease expired for a $20,000.00 loss.

    I am NEVER touching the brand again. And you all shouldn’t either! :OP

  4. o says:

    while the 9-3 is good that thing is ancient in car years it must be about 100

  5. SteveR32 says:

    Ummmmmmm the 9-3 isn’t good. I had my first 9-3 (an 04 model) replaced with a new one after 6 months as it was a lemon. Cost me a packet in lawyer fees but I finally got my way.

    Go to wwwDOTsaabcentralDOTcom and chq out the 9-3 forums.

    Just giving a friendly pointer so that others don’t make the same mistake :O)

    Great looking car the 9-3, underneath its all pretty horrible.

    I blame GM.

  6. Andrew says:

    I owned a 1986 Saab 900 for a while. Great car, solidly built, handled very well and you felt good behind the wheel. This was before GM took them over and, well, they seem to continue their slide down to being forgotten about.

  7. Az says:

    I thought the point of Ethanol fuels was to become an alternative and cheaper option to unleaded, and not fuel efficiency or CO2 emmissions??

  8. Eddy The Expert says:

    You have Leather as a $4000 option in your options list. It is in fact standard. The option of “Premium Natural Leather” is $4000.

    Apparently the new 95 in to be shown at a Motorshow later this year and is going to be pretty damn amazing.

  9. Anthonia says:

    I’m a fan of the 93 – its a very good looking thing. The 93 aero with its 184kW is a superb looking machine that hammers quite well and the drive train is silk smooth although, the upshifts take every bit as long as Volvo’s. Must be a Swedish thing.

    I agree, the 95 Estate is not a good looking thing at all and is in desperate need of a re-style.

  10. Hugo says:

    Well, at least it’s not a rebadged, current-gen Impreza.

    Can you imagine THAT with a Saab badge?!?!

  11. Boggy says:

    Thats why they are called a car for life …. you are always so upside down at the end of the lease the only way to get out of it is buy another Saab as they have so much profit margin in their new cars they can bail you out

  12. Eddy The Expert says:

    And u said they don’t have auto wipers, but they do :p

    Anthonia, the 9-3 Aero now has 188kW

    Hey caradvice, are you guys going to do a review of the 93 Turbo X ?
    Now that’s a hot Saab.

  13. Alex says:

    My cousin has one of these but its normal diesel. Its nice to sit in the back of – can I say any more?

  14. Matt says:

    Eddy – I know the spec sheet says it has auto wipers, but believe me, if they were fitted, they certainly didn’t work. In fact, the wipers were almost useless – period.

  15. Chucky says:

    Saabs are such a ripoff. If not for their range of convertibles, they would be finished by now.

  16. Anthonia says:

    You’re absolutely correct Eddy, even better at 188k. I’m surprised that Saab doesn’t employ AWD on any of its passenger sedans or wagons, given their safety image. No doubt a cost thing! But then again, Subaru can do it with cars which retail for half the price?

  17. alborz says:

    Anothnia, the new Saab turbo will be AWD, that should be lots of fun. I do agree though,the Aero specs really need to be AWD

  18. Phill says:

    India,China also Egypt and theres probably more,recently suspended grain exports for fear they would not have enough for there domestic market.And another reports says where headed for a world wide food shortage in the future.MAKING FUEL FROM FOOD SEEMS DUMB.I don’t think ethanol is the way forward.

  19. Carl says:

    Agree, Making fuel from food is morally bankrupt!!!!!

  20. Swade says:

    Alborz – with regards to emissions…..the BioPower does put out a higher raw figure, but the point of BioPower is reduced fossil fuel emissions. So when you’re running it on E85, it reduces fossil fuel emissions significantly as the fuel isn’t pure dino-juice.

    I’m betting the house on a new 9-5 for 2009 being shown at the Paris Motor Show later this year. I love the 9-5 to bits but this new one is well overdue.

  21. WooDz says:

    Although I agree in most part of what has been written, there are a few points I would like to make.

    I think the comments on the brakes are over exaggerated. I’ve never thought that any 9-5 I’ve driven was not going to to stop in time. I find them responsive and on par with any standard vehicle on the market today.

    The author complains about the extra body roll on the 16″ wheels, but to me this points out that the vehicle was probably lacking sport suspension as this was the Linear version he was testing.

    Lastly I like to clarify the BioPower issue.
    Before I start though, I would like to mention that I think it is irresponsible for major companies like Shell, BP, etc not to supply E85. We see plenty of adverts showing they are heavily investing in BioFuels but I don’t see anything at the pumps.

    Right… BioPower or BioEthanol if you wish.
    BioEthanol will not reduce the C02 coming out the back of your car. If it registers 238g then that’s the amount the engine is churning out. The difference being with E85 is that approximately 70% of that C02 is non-fossil fuel based. Some may wonder why 70% and not 85% as E85 contains 85% recycled fuel.
    The 70% is based on a ‘Well to wheel’ calculation meaning that a certain percentage of fossil fuel has been burnt in converting the Bio-mass into ethanol.
    So the real figures are, out of 238g of Co2 only approximately 72g is fossil CO2 based. Which make this Saab 9-5 considerably more environmentally friendly than the Toyota Prius that can only burn your normal plumbed out the ground Fossil Fuel.

    The other misconception is that E85 will reduce fuel consumption; It will not. E85 will increase fuel consumption by about 20%. However; you will gain an increase in performance which is mentioned in the article but not really explained why the performance dropped after filling up with 95RON. in this case the 2.3t produces 185hp on normal unleaded and 210hp on E85.

    We should see an All New product late summer 2009. In the mean-time I suggest you actually take a 9-5 for a drive and judge for yourself and secondly Saab dealers are more than aware the the list price for this car is a bit high and they will be more than willing to strike you a deal.

  22. Duck says:

    I have got to say that Saabs are ageing alot! I reckon the 9-3 looks better that the 9-5.

    The rear light set up reminds me of the HSV Maloo Ute.

  23. alborz says:

    Many thanks for that explanation WooDz – clears up the BioPower bit, I guess many (like myself) simply look at the CO2 rating without dwelling deeper. Obviously a need for better marketing then.

  24. Spacepodsaab says:

    Are we not forgetting the fact that bioethanol reduces our dependency on oil? Maybe there is food shortage too, but at least it is a renewable source unlike oil.

  25. Dale says:

    I own a 99 95 s and have had know major issues at all with this car…

    For those bagging the brand do some homework GM owns 100% of saab and more than 50% of suburu they do make 4wd versions thats what the x is, TARD

    The issue is that in the U.S SAAB make the 4wd check out the saab.com us website now the last time i drove my car im pretty sure it was rhd and in america, for those of you who didnt know, they drive on the left of the car…Im sure you guys knew that hey..it’s just that you need to think before you type…

    FOR THOSE BAGGING THE BRAND GOTO ANY BRAND REVIEW ON HERE AND YOU WILL FIND NEGATIVE REPORTS FOR THEM ALL…PROVE ME WRONG BEFORE YOU GOB OFF TOO

    I would reccomend a saab to anyone without hesitation it is the service and after sale service that can lack due to holden dealers selling and servicing them where in country regions and south aust

    Forgive me for all the yelling above but I am passionate about my 95 as it has provided many years and more than 170k kms of trouble free economical motoring due to regular servicing and tlc just as any car from any maker would/should 4 airbags and 4 star safety for 1999 show me an aussie built car with the same standards, i know these where dearer, but you get what you pay for dont you….

    Whilst im on the price issue blaim the gov for that. luxuary car tax…to protect the local car industry..thats great but in my mind this removes the element of competition due to pricing cars out of range of most australians

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