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2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower Review

By Matt Brogan |

2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower (Linear) Estate & Sedan Review

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Despite a decent engine the 9-5 is being left behind

Model tested:

  • 2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower Linear Sport Estate and Sedan 2.3-litre turbo petrol automatic – $63,900 (RRP).
  • Metallic Paint: $1300 (Fitted); Leather Seats: $4000 (Fitted); 17″ Alloys: $1250; Load Pack: $300; Tech Pack: $3000; Lux Pack: $4000; Sports Chassis: $750; Stereo Upgrade: $1500; Smoker’s Pack: $50 (Fitted); Roof Rails: $500 (Fitted); Walnut Veneer: $1250; Heated Rear Seats: $500.

plus.jpg Smooth Transmission, Responsive Engine, Comfortable.

minus.jpg Out Dated, Over Priced, Average Driving Dynamics, No E85 fuel.

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- by Matt Brogan & Alborz Fallah

Matt – I always had a thing for Saab as a kid, most especially our neighbour’s black 900 Aero, and as a former aircraft maintenance engineer have even had the pleasure of working on Saab aircraft. The marque has a fine history and I always took Saab as a lovely luxury car that sat in that status of an elite few, a car you’d be proud to own. So would a week with the 9-5 change my mind?

Now many Saab zealots will jump down my throat upon reading this, so please understand I am not being harsh just for the sake of being harsh, I’m simply trying to impress upon you that as someone who reviews dozens of cars a year I believe this vehicle is simply not worth the asking price. I mean option it up a little and you’re very quickly over the $80K mark!

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For starters, the design is out-dated, it desperately needs re-modeling and leaves the 9-5 ostracised from the more modern styling of its competitors, further stretching the argument that you’re getting a lot less for your coin than you could elsewhere.

Sure, it’s comfortable and everything works rather well, especially the sometimes over zealous climate control, but it looks old, is rather basically spec’ed for a premium vehicle and lacks a lot of the character the brand had a decade ago. Frankly, it’s boring, uninspiring, and whilst it’s hardly likely to ever do anything wrong, you’re just missing out on so very much comparatively speaking.

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As a big car, I was expecting much more in terms of space, but sadly little is offered in the way of innovative storage, and the internal proportions are certainly no more than you would expect of even a medium sized modern wagon, most especially in the rear leg room department. Plastic rattles were noticeable on coarser roads and some of the fittings appear frightfully last decade.

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The ‘Fasten Seat Belts’ light over the rear view mirror, perhaps borrowed from a Saab Regional Jet sits directly next to an R2D2 swivel light. Material usage is monotone, dated and very average in terms of quality, and with the ignition key and power windows switches (which incidentally operate incredibly slow power windows) taking up the console area, you’re left with very little space for additional storage of smaller items.

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Road noise is quite noticeable, the switch gear is agriculturally large, and the non-rain sensing wipers skip across the windscreen with washers that flood the cabin if you’re too slow at getting the glass up. As for the stereo, it’s decent and easy to use, but hardly a premium unit which only adds merit to my opinion that you’re not getting $60K+ worth of car.

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I did like the night panel feature, which cancels the instrumentation lighting to everything except the speedo (lighting other gauges if required – or at a button press), it’s very good on dark country roads when you need all your night vision, and the dual fold sun blind is a great idea, especially when travelling south-west of a late arvo.

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But how does it drive I hear you ask – well, like a ten year old, rather large, soft and heavy front wheel drive wagon really. The power is certainly there, but the drive is rather average. The cornering is lofty, top heavy and unsettled with a rigid front end creating a great deal of under steer and neutral wheel spin through those little 16″ rims in sharper corners.

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ESP is activated all too easily, torque steer is quite noticeable, and the steering is heavy and lethargic to respond. It’s a bugger to park despite its reasonable turning circle, though the parking sensors (which are also very quiet) do help.

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The braking is atrociously weak. You need to stand on the very heavy pedal to achieve even modest results which is not a good thing when you consider the inertia a turbo charged 1600 odd kilo car can carry. It almost feels like the discs are glazed and there’s very little assistance in the pedal meaning a firm leg is required to maintain even moderately heavy braking.

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So is there anything to like about the poor old 9-5? Well, besides being a rather comfy ride, yes there is – the engine and transmission are rather sweet. Motivated by an Ethanol (E85) fuelled turbo charged 2.3-litre petrol, the 9-5 produces a respectable 154kW @ 5500rpm which is delivered very smoothly through the five-speed Sentronic auto. It shifts well, almost seamlessly and has a lovely wide torque range for long, flat pulling power.

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Acceleration is rather brisk for a bigger car and in a straight line at least, I would have no reason to doubt the manufacturer’s claim of 9.5 seconds in the 0-100km/h sprint. Fuel consumption is rather heavy though, and markedly beyond that of the ADR claims with combined averages for the week reaching well in to the high 12s (300km City / 500km Highway).

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A good comfortable highway cruiser, the 9-5 is a bit of a work out around town and is challenged by fast flowing switch backs and twisty country roads. If only the rest of the mechanicals could match that marvellous engine, and if only the design could catch up, inside and out, the 9-5 would be a worthy competitor.

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While it may sound like I dislike the car, it’s more that I think the 9-5 is out of touch, irrelevant to the premium market sector in both price and appointment, and is in dire need of being taken back to the drawing board. Given Saab and GM’s combined talent, and their clear ability to tune an engine for our changing environmental needs, the 9-5 could be a great product, but sadly this one has had its day.

Alborz – As I arrived at the Saab pickup point in Brisbane’s south, an enthusiastic Saab technician handed me the keys and I quickly made my way out to pick up what would surely be, the most embarrassing car I’ve driven in a very long time.

2008 Saab 9-5 BioPower

Firstly, they were the wrong keys, they were for the 9-3 SportCombi, which I had already driven. Then there was the fuel problem. You see, as good as that gigantic BioPower sticker on the side looks, there is no BioFuel to go with it. Yes, there was only half-a-tank of E85 BioPower fuel left in all of Brisbane, and it was all mine.

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I wasn’t exactly sure what to expect, it’s one thing to drive a Toyota Prius, but it’s another kettle of fish when you drive a car which calls itself “BioPower”.

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What exactly is BioPower? Well it’s E85 fuel, 85 per cent ethanol, 15 per cent unleaded petrol. A good mix for the environment. Of course you can, as I have before, argue that the production process of ethanol based fuels produce more CO2 emissions than the offset of using such fuels.

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But just how good is the offset? My BioPower was creating 238g of CO2 per km, which is not exactly a record breaker. To put that into perspective, the current 1.9-litre turbo-diesel Saab 9-5 produces only 199g of CO2 per km!

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So what exactly is the point of BioPower? It creates more pollution per km than its diesel brother and more importantly, E85 fuel is harder to find than a laugh on the Rove McManus Show.

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At the very least, it sounds good. “How do you do? I drive a Saab 9-5…BioPower!” Yes it definitely sounds good. But only 3 minutes had passed and I was already being questioned by other motorists.

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“Does that run on electricity?” – “No sir, it actually runs mostly on Ethanol”

“Can you put vegetable oil in that thing? I saw that on TV” – “No sir, it actually runs mostly on Ethanol”

*large man in a Hummer H3* “Are those stickers a joke?” – “No sir, it actually…. forget it.”

Thankfully, you can buy this car without the BioPower stickers and it will look and feel like any other Saab 9-5, just with a small BioPower badge on the boot.

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It also won’t come with 263 BioPower flyers in the boot.

Sitting inside the 9-5 is somewhat disappointing, there is nothing to make you go “wow”. It’s just… plain. It’s one of those, “here is an interior” interiors. As Matt said, the switchgear and the whole set up looks rather outdated and you have to pinch yourself to remember it costs 60k+.

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My biggest problem with the 9-5 BioPower, however, wasn’t the interior or the quirky exterior, it was the fuel economy. I was expecting fuel usage of around 6-7L/100km given the BioPower badge, but the official fuel usage is rated at 10L/100km and you’d be lucky to achieve even that!

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Saab 9-5 BioPowerMy half-a-tank of E85 ran out in two days and I was left to standard fuel. I didn’t give up on E85 easily though, I called up BP, Shell and Caltex and asked each where/if I can buy E85 fuel (Brisbane), none gave me a positive response.

Apparently there are one or two stations in Melbourne and Sydney which stock the fuel, but none in Brisbane. 95 RON fuel it was.

I picked up Paul from Brisbane airport and drove down to Anthony’s Gold Coast based house to begin recording our voice overs for the Veyron and Lamborghini videos.

On my way home that night, I put in $25 worth of fuel, which equated to about 17L of 95 RON fuel. After my 93km journey home, the refill fuel now warning was back again!

No doubt the press car was running extremely rich on 95 RON fuel, but it goes to show a real world test of the car’s fuel economy on standard fuel.

However I don’t give up on cars that easily, I stayed positive, so what if the fuel economy isn’t that great, what about the drive? Well, that ain’t so great either.

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The brakes gave me the biggest concern, some high-performance cars with Brembo or APR systems tend to show a bit of “nothing…nothing.. everything” when it comes to braking performance. The 9-5 is similar, but it’s more a “nothing…nothing…nothing….nothing…nothing…through the windscreen”.

The brake system can convince you that you’re about to have an accident, than at the very last second, the car simply stops. Not exactly fun to drive. As for the handling and power? The few hundred kilometres that I did with E85 fuel were terrific, fast acceleration from a standstill and in-gear, but as soon as 95 RON fuel went in, the performance went down the drain.

Handling on the other hand, was anything but fun. The tiny 16″ wheels do nothing to help the constant body roll from one corner to another, this is by no means a driver’s car.

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While I love and adore Saab as a company and would have no hesitation recommending the 9-3 range, the 9-5 BioPower is one car which I was happy to give back.

Here is a short list of problems with 9-5 BioPower, it puts out more pollution than it’s diesel variants, it uses more fuel, it’s a pain to find the E85 fuel required, it handles like a beached whale, the braking performance will give you a heart condition, it’s too expensive for what you get and the interior and exterior are both outdated.

Saab 9-5 BioPower

What do I like about the 9-5? The idea. I like the thought of a car which can run on ethanol or electricity or perhaps even my own sense of self-satisfaction, but until such time as when these fuels are actually available, cars like this, are unnecessary.

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  • Engine: 2.3 litre turbo charged in-line four cylinder petrol
  • Power: 154kW @ 5500rpm
  • Torque: 280Nm @ 2000 – 4300rpm
  • Transmission: Sentronic Five Speed Automatic
  • 0-100km/h: 9.5 seconds (Claimed)
  • Top speed: 225km/h
  • Safety:
  • NCAP Rating: N/A
  • Turning Circle: 11.3 metres
  • Fuel Tank: 75 litres
  • Fuel Consumption: 10.4 litres / 100km (Combined)
  • Fuel Type: E85 (or 95RON Petrol)
  • Weight: 1589kg (Tare)
  • Towing Capacity: 1800kg (Braked)
  • Wheel Size: 16″ x 6.5J (Alloy)

 
  • Jausho

    To sum it up: This car will make you hate driving. (It was gettin there with me!).

    Perhaps that’s the motive behind Saab’s BioPower concept?

  • Casey

    I like that you guys have the balls to tell it as it is – well done.

    SAAB, get with the program!

  • SteveR32

    My previous car was a SAAB. (the ex’s choice! grrrr)

    I recently sold it after after the 3 year lease expired for a $20,000.00 loss.

    I am NEVER touching the brand again. And you all shouldn’t either! :OP

  • o

    while the 9-3 is good that thing is ancient in car years it must be about 100

  • SteveR32

    Ummmmmmm the 9-3 isn’t good. I had my first 9-3 (an 04 model) replaced with a new one after 6 months as it was a lemon. Cost me a packet in lawyer fees but I finally got my way.

    Go to wwwDOTsaabcentralDOTcom and chq out the 9-3 forums.

    Just giving a friendly pointer so that others don’t make the same mistake :O)

    Great looking car the 9-3, underneath its all pretty horrible.

    I blame GM.

  • Andrew

    I owned a 1986 Saab 900 for a while. Great car, solidly built, handled very well and you felt good behind the wheel. This was before GM took them over and, well, they seem to continue their slide down to being forgotten about.

  • Az

    I thought the point of Ethanol fuels was to become an alternative and cheaper option to unleaded, and not fuel efficiency or CO2 emmissions??

  • Eddy The Expert

    You have Leather as a $4000 option in your options list. It is in fact standard. The option of “Premium Natural Leather” is $4000.

    Apparently the new 95 in to be shown at a Motorshow later this year and is going to be pretty damn amazing.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Anthonia

    I’m a fan of the 93 – its a very good looking thing. The 93 aero with its 184kW is a superb looking machine that hammers quite well and the drive train is silk smooth although, the upshifts take every bit as long as Volvo’s. Must be a Swedish thing.

    I agree, the 95 Estate is not a good looking thing at all and is in desperate need of a re-style.

  • Hugo

    Well, at least it’s not a rebadged, current-gen Impreza.

    Can you imagine THAT with a Saab badge?!?!

  • http://Citroen Boggy

    Thats why they are called a car for life …. you are always so upside down at the end of the lease the only way to get out of it is buy another Saab as they have so much profit margin in their new cars they can bail you out

  • Eddy The Expert

    And u said they don’t have auto wipers, but they do :p

    Anthonia, the 9-3 Aero now has 188kW

    Hey caradvice, are you guys going to do a review of the 93 Turbo X ?
    Now that’s a hot Saab.

  • http://deleted Alex

    My cousin has one of these but its normal diesel. Its nice to sit in the back of – can I say any more?

  • Matt

    Eddy – I know the spec sheet says it has auto wipers, but believe me, if they were fitted, they certainly didn’t work. In fact, the wipers were almost useless – period.

  • Chucky

    Saabs are such a ripoff. If not for their range of convertibles, they would be finished by now.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Anthonia

    You’re absolutely correct Eddy, even better at 188k. I’m surprised that Saab doesn’t employ AWD on any of its passenger sedans or wagons, given their safety image. No doubt a cost thing! But then again, Subaru can do it with cars which retail for half the price?

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ alborz

    Anothnia, the new Saab turbo will be AWD, that should be lots of fun. I do agree though,the Aero specs really need to be AWD

  • Phill

    India,China also Egypt and theres probably more,recently suspended grain exports for fear they would not have enough for there domestic market.And another reports says where headed for a world wide food shortage in the future.MAKING FUEL FROM FOOD SEEMS DUMB.I don’t think ethanol is the way forward.

  • Carl

    Agree, Making fuel from food is morally bankrupt!!!!!

  • http://www.trollhattansaab.net Swade

    Alborz – with regards to emissions…..the BioPower does put out a higher raw figure, but the point of BioPower is reduced fossil fuel emissions. So when you’re running it on E85, it reduces fossil fuel emissions significantly as the fuel isn’t pure dino-juice.

    I’m betting the house on a new 9-5 for 2009 being shown at the Paris Motor Show later this year. I love the 9-5 to bits but this new one is well overdue.

  • WooDz

    Although I agree in most part of what has been written, there are a few points I would like to make.

    I think the comments on the brakes are over exaggerated. I’ve never thought that any 9-5 I’ve driven was not going to to stop in time. I find them responsive and on par with any standard vehicle on the market today.

    The author complains about the extra body roll on the 16″ wheels, but to me this points out that the vehicle was probably lacking sport suspension as this was the Linear version he was testing.

    Lastly I like to clarify the BioPower issue.
    Before I start though, I would like to mention that I think it is irresponsible for major companies like Shell, BP, etc not to supply E85. We see plenty of adverts showing they are heavily investing in BioFuels but I don’t see anything at the pumps.

    Right… BioPower or BioEthanol if you wish.
    BioEthanol will not reduce the C02 coming out the back of your car. If it registers 238g then that’s the amount the engine is churning out. The difference being with E85 is that approximately 70% of that C02 is non-fossil fuel based. Some may wonder why 70% and not 85% as E85 contains 85% recycled fuel.
    The 70% is based on a ‘Well to wheel’ calculation meaning that a certain percentage of fossil fuel has been burnt in converting the Bio-mass into ethanol.
    So the real figures are, out of 238g of Co2 only approximately 72g is fossil CO2 based. Which make this Saab 9-5 considerably more environmentally friendly than the Toyota Prius that can only burn your normal plumbed out the ground Fossil Fuel.

    The other misconception is that E85 will reduce fuel consumption; It will not. E85 will increase fuel consumption by about 20%. However; you will gain an increase in performance which is mentioned in the article but not really explained why the performance dropped after filling up with 95RON. in this case the 2.3t produces 185hp on normal unleaded and 210hp on E85.

    We should see an All New product late summer 2009. In the mean-time I suggest you actually take a 9-5 for a drive and judge for yourself and secondly Saab dealers are more than aware the the list price for this car is a bit high and they will be more than willing to strike you a deal.

  • Duck

    I have got to say that Saabs are ageing alot! I reckon the 9-3 looks better that the 9-5.

    The rear light set up reminds me of the HSV Maloo Ute.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ alborz

    Many thanks for that explanation WooDz – clears up the BioPower bit, I guess many (like myself) simply look at the CO2 rating without dwelling deeper. Obviously a need for better marketing then.

  • Spacepodsaab

    Are we not forgetting the fact that bioethanol reduces our dependency on oil? Maybe there is food shortage too, but at least it is a renewable source unlike oil.

  • Dale

    I own a 99 95 s and have had know major issues at all with this car…

    For those bagging the brand do some homework GM owns 100% of saab and more than 50% of suburu they do make 4wd versions thats what the x is, TARD

    The issue is that in the U.S SAAB make the 4wd check out the saab.com us website now the last time i drove my car im pretty sure it was rhd and in america, for those of you who didnt know, they drive on the left of the car…Im sure you guys knew that hey..it’s just that you need to think before you type…

    FOR THOSE BAGGING THE BRAND GOTO ANY BRAND REVIEW ON HERE AND YOU WILL FIND NEGATIVE REPORTS FOR THEM ALL…PROVE ME WRONG BEFORE YOU GOB OFF TOO

    I would reccomend a saab to anyone without hesitation it is the service and after sale service that can lack due to holden dealers selling and servicing them where in country regions and south aust

    Forgive me for all the yelling above but I am passionate about my 95 as it has provided many years and more than 170k kms of trouble free economical motoring due to regular servicing and tlc just as any car from any maker would/should 4 airbags and 4 star safety for 1999 show me an aussie built car with the same standards, i know these where dearer, but you get what you pay for dont you….

    Whilst im on the price issue blaim the gov for that. luxuary car tax…to protect the local car industry..thats great but in my mind this removes the element of competition due to pricing cars out of range of most australians