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		<title>By: Ravinder  Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravinder  Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew , its gonna happen sum day, ba coudnt believe too early. I dont know much about cars, but when it came to the pride of porch, I realy got stunned...........superb car....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew , its gonna happen sum day, ba coudnt believe too early. I dont know much about cars, but when it came to the pride of porch, I realy got stunned&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..superb car&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t understand that it&#039;s just a Nissan thing... Is it still a Nissan because it wasn&#039;t the best ? And does that mean that it never will be a good car because it&#039;s still a Nissan ? I guess people just can&#039;t accept that Nissan has reached such success and are making lame excuses like &quot;It&#039;s just a Nissan!&quot;. Yes, GTR may not be as comfortable and etc., but look at the price ! I also think that if Nissan would have it&#039;s engine in the rear, the results would be better... People who like luxury and can afford Porsche, choose it. People who don&#039;t care about luxury, are on a budget, or want to feel like they are driving a real sports (no luxury, like NASCAR) car, choose GTR. Both cars are good and its your choice.. Performance+Luxury=$$ or Performance=$ .Also GTR is made that way so people can get the performance they dreamed about for a lower price. Isn&#039;t that what all people who are on a budget want ? I don&#039;t understand the other thing some people say... It can&#039;t be a super car because it doesn&#039;t cost tons of money ? ok let&#039;s say instead of $80k Nissan sells the same car for $160k, so does it become a super car ? They can put any price they want on their car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand that it&#8217;s just a Nissan thing&#8230; Is it still a Nissan because it wasn&#8217;t the best ? And does that mean that it never will be a good car because it&#8217;s still a Nissan ? I guess people just can&#8217;t accept that Nissan has reached such success and are making lame excuses like &#8220;It&#8217;s just a Nissan!&#8221;. Yes, GTR may not be as comfortable and etc., but look at the price ! I also think that if Nissan would have it&#8217;s engine in the rear, the results would be better&#8230; People who like luxury and can afford Porsche, choose it. People who don&#8217;t care about luxury, are on a budget, or want to feel like they are driving a real sports (no luxury, like NASCAR) car, choose GTR. Both cars are good and its your choice.. Performance+Luxury=$$ or Performance=$ .Also GTR is made that way so people can get the performance they dreamed about for a lower price. Isn&#8217;t that what all people who are on a budget want ? I don&#8217;t understand the other thing some people say&#8230; It can&#8217;t be a super car because it doesn&#8217;t cost tons of money ? ok let&#8217;s say instead of $80k Nissan sells the same car for $160k, so does it become a super car ? They can put any price they want on their car.</p>
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		<title>By: dogofchaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogofchaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 03:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL... &quot;even if it is hand built by a small army of Ninjas in a secret location in Japan&quot;

My opinion is this, yes the Nissan is a killer car, guaranteed. But speed is not the only facet of ownership of such vehicles. If I owned the Nissan, i would be in the upper echelons of the sports tuner community. I&#039;d be respected by ever spiky haired club going kid on each city street corner. 

The Porsche on the other hand, doesn&#039;t need your respect in such a manner. Everyone knows it&#039;s capability, it&#039;s racing heritage, it&#039;s class, power, sophistication, etc. There are some things that are invalid in comparing the vehicles but I do not think should get carried away. After all, the Porsche was the Nissan&#039;s BENCHMARK. 

I have wanted to own a Porsche since I was a teenager. Nothing can take away the fact it&#039;s got that raucious motor in the rear, the charismatic looks, the history, quality, name, etc. I&#039;d pick up the keys if i was offered either of the two without a second&#039;s hesitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230; &#8220;even if it is hand built by a small army of Ninjas in a secret location in Japan&#8221;</p>
<p>My opinion is this, yes the Nissan is a killer car, guaranteed. But speed is not the only facet of ownership of such vehicles. If I owned the Nissan, i would be in the upper echelons of the sports tuner community. I&#8217;d be respected by ever spiky haired club going kid on each city street corner. </p>
<p>The Porsche on the other hand, doesn&#8217;t need your respect in such a manner. Everyone knows it&#8217;s capability, it&#8217;s racing heritage, it&#8217;s class, power, sophistication, etc. There are some things that are invalid in comparing the vehicles but I do not think should get carried away. After all, the Porsche was the Nissan&#8217;s BENCHMARK. </p>
<p>I have wanted to own a Porsche since I was a teenager. Nothing can take away the fact it&#8217;s got that raucious motor in the rear, the charismatic looks, the history, quality, name, etc. I&#8217;d pick up the keys if i was offered either of the two without a second&#8217;s hesitation.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely guarantee that if the prices were totally reversed, I&#039;d still buy the GT-R.

Dale came up with this list;

- Racing heritage
- Hand built
- Exclusivity
- Reliability
- Luxury

Can I just comment on that same list by saying;

Racing heritage
A little better, but c&#039;mon Renault are successful at Formula 1 !!! This is not the whole story...

Hand built
You believe that?

Exclusivity
Probably not correct, and to be fair, 911 drivers are seen as tw*ts to some degree...

Reliability
Utter shite, sorry

Luxury
Perhaps, but should any 2-seat &#039;racer&#039; be bought on luxury grounds???

Listen guys, I live in Europe and work very closely with German cars - VERY over-rated, you will learn this in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely guarantee that if the prices were totally reversed, I&#8217;d still buy the GT-R.</p>
<p>Dale came up with this list;</p>
<p>- Racing heritage<br />
- Hand built<br />
- Exclusivity<br />
- Reliability<br />
- Luxury</p>
<p>Can I just comment on that same list by saying;</p>
<p>Racing heritage<br />
A little better, but c&#8217;mon Renault are successful at Formula 1 !!! This is not the whole story&#8230;</p>
<p>Hand built<br />
You believe that?</p>
<p>Exclusivity<br />
Probably not correct, and to be fair, 911 drivers are seen as tw*ts to some degree&#8230;</p>
<p>Reliability<br />
Utter shite, sorry</p>
<p>Luxury<br />
Perhaps, but should any 2-seat &#8216;racer&#8217; be bought on luxury grounds???</p>
<p>Listen guys, I live in Europe and work very closely with German cars &#8211; VERY over-rated, you will learn this in time.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many people seem to judge how good a car is based on there 0 - 100 times and so on.
No matter how much faster the Nissan is its still not a better car.
Im a huge fan of porsches but i do respect what the japs have done with the Nissan.
To say the Nissan is better than the porsche is really stupid first of all the Nissan will date in time and im sure the porsche in 30 years will still look better and going from past examlples of old porsches they are becoming very collectable and expensise.
If money was not an issue 100% of people would choose the porsche simple as that and not the fact its .3 of a secs slower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many people seem to judge how good a car is based on there 0 &#8211; 100 times and so on.<br />
No matter how much faster the Nissan is its still not a better car.<br />
Im a huge fan of porsches but i do respect what the japs have done with the Nissan.<br />
To say the Nissan is better than the porsche is really stupid first of all the Nissan will date in time and im sure the porsche in 30 years will still look better and going from past examlples of old porsches they are becoming very collectable and expensise.<br />
If money was not an issue 100% of people would choose the porsche simple as that and not the fact its .3 of a secs slower.</p>
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		<title>By: Amr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People that buy &quot;supercars&quot; look for exclusivity. The Nissan will always just be a Nissan, even if it had 1000hp, wait, come to think about it, the old GT-R was tuned up to 1000hp+ but it was STILL A NISSAN!!! 
Not to mention the fact that people that buy Porsches are usually facing a mid time crises, and the car is just a bate.. and if I were in their place, I wouldn&#039;t want to sit in a car and explain how it matches a Porsche&#039;s performance, yet it is cheaper.. 
I respect the car.. but come on guys.. its a Nissan..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People that buy &#8220;supercars&#8221; look for exclusivity. The Nissan will always just be a Nissan, even if it had 1000hp, wait, come to think about it, the old GT-R was tuned up to 1000hp+ but it was STILL A NISSAN!!!<br />
Not to mention the fact that people that buy Porsches are usually facing a mid time crises, and the car is just a bate.. and if I were in their place, I wouldn&#8217;t want to sit in a car and explain how it matches a Porsche&#8217;s performance, yet it is cheaper..<br />
I respect the car.. but come on guys.. its a Nissan..</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Porsche, hands down. The figures look great for the GT-R, however, its a Nissan! The 997 will still look great in 5 years, Japanese cars loose there styling fast. Plus the 997 turbo&#039;s getting a facelift and bump of 20hp for 2009. 

No matter what the figures are a Porsche will be a Porsche, a Nissan will be a Nissan. Comparable numbers, but different target markets. The ideal client profile and decision making process for these two potential buyers are at different ends of the spectrum. 

But hey maybe in biased! haha

-Ryan-
www.theporschepit.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porsche, hands down. The figures look great for the GT-R, however, its a Nissan! The 997 will still look great in 5 years, Japanese cars loose there styling fast. Plus the 997 turbo&#8217;s getting a facelift and bump of 20hp for 2009. </p>
<p>No matter what the figures are a Porsche will be a Porsche, a Nissan will be a Nissan. Comparable numbers, but different target markets. The ideal client profile and decision making process for these two potential buyers are at different ends of the spectrum. </p>
<p>But hey maybe in biased! haha</p>
<p>-Ryan-<br />
<a href="http://www.theporschepit.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theporschepit.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright... I think everyone is getting carried away with this argument!

Let me justify the price tag difference here a little. Porshe is so much more expensive for these reasons:

- Racing heritage
- Hand built
- Exclusivity
- Reliability
- Luxury

Now of course you would argue the point that the GTR has all of those things... well it does... just not to the extent of Porsche. Especially in the luxury category.

But of course you do pay a fair bit for the badge. Remember Porsche don&#039;t sell mass production cars like Pulsars.

Overall I still have to think the GTR is a winner in how well it does for it&#039;s price. Just remember the more technology involved in a car... the more that can go wrong.

I&#039;d buy the GTR if I did need the extra money,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright&#8230; I think everyone is getting carried away with this argument!</p>
<p>Let me justify the price tag difference here a little. Porshe is so much more expensive for these reasons:</p>
<p>- Racing heritage<br />
- Hand built<br />
- Exclusivity<br />
- Reliability<br />
- Luxury</p>
<p>Now of course you would argue the point that the GTR has all of those things&#8230; well it does&#8230; just not to the extent of Porsche. Especially in the luxury category.</p>
<p>But of course you do pay a fair bit for the badge. Remember Porsche don&#8217;t sell mass production cars like Pulsars.</p>
<p>Overall I still have to think the GTR is a winner in how well it does for it&#8217;s price. Just remember the more technology involved in a car&#8230; the more that can go wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d buy the GTR if I did need the extra money,</p>
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		<title>By: joober</title>
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		<dc:creator>joober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree Juraj,

We pay a mint on any prestige labels, whether Porche beamers, ferrari, same as we do for burberry, harmon Kardon, and the likes, naturally people are addicted to stature and would pay 1000% over the cost price. Sure you get more quality materials and refinement but its not aligned with the + 200k price tag

hehe Bavarian, I would take a 911 over a GTR too, coz of the shiny schwing factor :P, But for the &#039;ive won a scratchy lottery&#039; oriented off the shelf supercar there not much in comparison to the GTR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree Juraj,</p>
<p>We pay a mint on any prestige labels, whether Porche beamers, ferrari, same as we do for burberry, harmon Kardon, and the likes, naturally people are addicted to stature and would pay 1000% over the cost price. Sure you get more quality materials and refinement but its not aligned with the + 200k price tag</p>
<p>hehe Bavarian, I would take a 911 over a GTR too, coz of the shiny schwing factor <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> , But for the &#8216;ive won a scratchy lottery&#8217; oriented off the shelf supercar there not much in comparison to the GTR.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was all fine but you mentioned a Vet in the same sentence as a Porsche..........Me I think the Germans will always be a step a head,they have earn&#039;t their credentials over decades........their not about to give them up. Its years of proving yourself as a manufacturer not just one car.

Saying that I think the GTR is a fabulous car but would I have it over the 911,naaaaaaaaa.

And a Vet?????pffttt I&#039;ll take the GTR first thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was all fine but you mentioned a Vet in the same sentence as a Porsche&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Me I think the Germans will always be a step a head,they have earn&#8217;t their credentials over decades&#8230;&#8230;..their not about to give them up. Its years of proving yourself as a manufacturer not just one car.</p>
<p>Saying that I think the GTR is a fabulous car but would I have it over the 911,naaaaaaaaa.</p>
<p>And a Vet?????pffttt I&#8217;ll take the GTR first thanks!</p>
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