Comments on: New proposed tax changes for motorists

By: treno_186

treno_186 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:24:08 +0000

Jbot, I figured that would be a trip computer reading. My trip computer is showing 13.2L/100km but by calculating the L divide distance it shows my TRUE avg for this week anyway is 11.21L/100km. Work it out and I think you will be supprised.

By: jbot

jbot — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:19:26 +0000

That average is going off the trip computer. And unfortunately its the 4-speed. Its not my car, but I use it occasionally. It would proably do 60% of its driving in the rush hours, so 14.2 not that bad really.

By: WILDB

WILDB — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:16:50 +0000

I am not going to have an argument over what fuel economy is achievable in my car because it is obvious you don’t believe it. I was stating that MY FALCON and other ones at work (all manual as well) use LESS fuel than all bar one of the company Aurions (4 base and 1 sportivo use more fuel) over the SAME ROADS. The only one which uses less is the boses (sorry, didn’t take notice of the model, top of the range I think)

By: treno_186

treno_186 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:11:38 +0000

My BA XR is actually worse on the HWY because of the short 5th in these T5 boxes. My Ghia used more city but less HWY than my XR.

By: treno_186

treno_186 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:10:10 +0000

JBot is your falcon the old BTR 4sp Auto or the ZF 6 speeder becuase that is terrible economy. Before the XR I had a BAII Ghia with the BTR when I travelled into central Sydney everyday and I got about 12.5L/100 avg and that is not according to the gauge because they are always inaccurate. Perhaps your right boot gets plenty of work?

Work out the ACTUAL economy by dividing number of L by the number of KM so for 450k from 50L you go 50/4.5 = 11.1

Have a go and see what you come up with.

By: jbot

jbot — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:09:30 +0000

Drive in rush hour for a bit then tell me you can get 11.4 WILDB. I can get under in mine, but 14.2 is the overall average for the BFII. Highway runs are great, but no car that size can do well in rush hour.

By: treno_186

treno_186 — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:04:15 +0000

I would say that WILDB is not living in an imaginary world as I own an 03 BA XR6 with the T5 manual with a K&N Filter and I can easily get under 11L/100 in suburban driving although admittedly I dont live in the city I live in outer suburbs. In saying this however I do plenty of stopping and starting in my driving due to traffic.

By: WILDB

WILDB — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:57:35 +0000

It comes down to how you drive, if you drive like a dick then you get bad economy. Car is a manual not an auto and of all of the auto’s I have owned and in particular Falcon’s the autos chew the juice.

By: WILDB

WILDB — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:54:51 +0000

Imaginary hey. Sure, you can think what you want and by the way I would call Brisbane a real city.

By: jbot

jbot — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:49:50 +0000

I might add 14.2L/km is still good considering the driving conditions, but nothing like what WILDB gets in his imaginary world.

By: jbot

jbot — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:47:31 +0000

WILDB, you have clearly never driven in a real city. The only street in the the town with a traffic light doesn’t count. You do not get 11.4L/100km if you do much inner-city driving in any major city (Sydney, Melb, Brisbane – not Adelaide, traffic there is actually very good). Simple fact for you. Two Falcons in the family, 1 averages 14.2 (BFII), mostly city driving, the other (AUIII) averages about the same, with a bit more suburban driving on top of the city traffic.

By: WILDB

WILDB — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:37:46 +0000

Actually TP there is plenty that the Falcon has over the Aurion. 1. Torque – 383nm at 2500rpm VS 336nm at 4700rpm! This means incase you are not sharp enough to realise that you have to rev the Aurion harder to get it properly moving than the Falcon and in doing so using more fuel. 2. By the way ADR fuel test figures are crap and you should not base arguments on them. The sticker on my Falcon says 11.4L/100km but I can tell you that I ALWAYS get better than that even in the city. And lastly on more than 1 occasion motoring jurno’s have called the Aurion (of all variants I might add) a one trick pony “Fast in a straight line but atrocious through corners.” Unless you have driven both I suggest you keep your one eyed opinions to yourself. And before you say it, I have driven both and definately know which one I prefer because after all if I liked the Aurion I would have bought one.

By: Kenzo

Kenzo — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:30:57 +0000

if they do this, why dont they charge fat people more for going on airplanes. i mean they are going to have to burn more fuel to carry a 120kg person rather than a 60kg person. yet the air plane ticket price is the same.

By: No Name

No Name — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:01:12 +0000

Ha Ha you guys make me laugh. Is that the same stuff that comes up when you formatting in the forum? Test it there then.

By: Oz.

Oz. — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:28:34 +0000

“use the to enclose your tags”

By: Foggy

Foggy — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:23:20 +0000

Damn, it removed the “greater than” and “less than” symbols from my last post! :-(

By: Foggy

Foggy — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:22:10 +0000

Oz, use the to enclose your tags, that’s true html, not this forum [b] crap!

By: Oz.

Oz. — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:25:57 +0000

:? Damn it doesn’t work

By: Oz.

Oz. — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:24:40 +0000

[b]Bold[/b] Just testing

By: Oz.

Oz. — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:18:34 +0000

ROFL!!!

I think you should know, look at the arguments in older Toyota articles. e.g. “Toyota beats holden and ford combined”.