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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11103/toyota-working-on-new-batteries/#comment-60678</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes you were Dingo.......cause I know how he did it,as you said virtually. You find another computer to rant from ! No one believes you anyway . 

Hanky...pfftttt you still don&#039;t get it do you. 

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&quot;PS - you struggle with facts n figures because you carn’t grasp the reality of such surveys which suggests very little for Holden and Ford. Then again - you are challenged trying to grasp yourself.&quot;

Ummmm,its just a survey ,thats why! Challenged trying to grasp myself, I thought thats what you did.You know they have nasal spray for that problem now..hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes you were Dingo&#8230;&#8230;.cause I know how he did it,as you said virtually. You find another computer to rant from ! No one believes you anyway . </p>
<p>Hanky&#8230;pfftttt you still don&#8217;t get it do you. </p>
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<p>&#8220;PS &#8211; you struggle with facts n figures because you carn’t grasp the reality of such surveys which suggests very little for Holden and Ford. Then again &#8211; you are challenged trying to grasp yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ummmm,its just a survey ,thats why! Challenged trying to grasp myself, I thought thats what you did.You know they have nasal spray for that problem now..hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: Bonga</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11103/toyota-working-on-new-batteries/#comment-60677</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that just the Prius or every other hybrid / plug in from BMW, MB, Honda, Ford and GM. The same government is also lobbing for hybrids to be biult in Oz so i wonder what maths they done to be enticed to push local hybrids. I read in the Australian earlier in the week that Australain Goverment Officials have just returned from visiting Toyota in Japan talking up possibilities of building a hybrid Camry in Oz. The Oz Gov is pushing Toyota not the otherway around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that just the Prius or every other hybrid / plug in from BMW, MB, Honda, Ford and GM. The same government is also lobbing for hybrids to be biult in Oz so i wonder what maths they done to be enticed to push local hybrids. I read in the Australian earlier in the week that Australain Goverment Officials have just returned from visiting Toyota in Japan talking up possibilities of building a hybrid Camry in Oz. The Oz Gov is pushing Toyota not the otherway around.</p>
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		<title>By: tonyn</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11103/toyota-working-on-new-batteries/#comment-60675</link>
		<dc:creator>tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TP , the prius still has a greater impact over the life of the car on the environment then diesel, now were diesel fairys??

 How do you work your maths out? federal govenment does the comparo and rates VW Golf diesel as more fuel efficent, and greener on the environment???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TP , the prius still has a greater impact over the life of the car on the environment then diesel, now were diesel fairys??</p>
<p> How do you work your maths out? federal govenment does the comparo and rates VW Golf diesel as more fuel efficent, and greener on the environment???</p>
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		<title>By: TP</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11103/toyota-working-on-new-batteries/#comment-60583</link>
		<dc:creator>TP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Name twisted logic... its true Diesel is more fuel efficient, it doesnt offset the extra oil.. but thats my point, we are at the same point as we are right now, which we cant be at in 10 years or so!!! Thankyou for showing my point. This is why the Diesel fairies need to wake up, sure they are more FUEL efficient, but this is offset by being less OIL efficient... a hybrid on the other hand is more FUEL AND OIL EFFICIENT. Get it!? Prity simple really. If anyone still cant put two and two togther, to put it simply, if everyone had a hyrbid instead of a conventional petrol world oil consumption would decrease by 20-30%, HOWEVER if everyone switched to Diesel at best you might get a 5% decrease in oil efficiecny (the difference between the 25% extra oil to took to make a certain quantitity of oil offset against the 30% more efficiecny a diesel has in fuel consumption). For it to be viable, a Diesel needs to be at the very least 55% decrease in fuel consumption, which then just matched a hybrid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Name twisted logic&#8230; its true Diesel is more fuel efficient, it doesnt offset the extra oil.. but thats my point, we are at the same point as we are right now, which we cant be at in 10 years or so!!! Thankyou for showing my point. This is why the Diesel fairies need to wake up, sure they are more FUEL efficient, but this is offset by being less OIL efficient&#8230; a hybrid on the other hand is more FUEL AND OIL EFFICIENT. Get it!? Prity simple really. If anyone still cant put two and two togther, to put it simply, if everyone had a hyrbid instead of a conventional petrol world oil consumption would decrease by 20-30%, HOWEVER if everyone switched to Diesel at best you might get a 5% decrease in oil efficiecny (the difference between the 25% extra oil to took to make a certain quantitity of oil offset against the 30% more efficiecny a diesel has in fuel consumption). For it to be viable, a Diesel needs to be at the very least 55% decrease in fuel consumption, which then just matched a hybrid!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Slater</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/11103/toyota-working-on-new-batteries/#comment-60553</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering hybrids are increasingly becoming the favourite with many brands it seems Toyota had the right idea for the current environment all along. Never said it is the best long term solution but it is the best option today so why wouldn&#039;t companies like Toyota promote now as it would be useless to have done so yester-year or tommorrow-year. We live now not another time. Toyota is a quality Japanese product whereas McDonalds, Holden and Ford are all American rubbish. So you have a go at the Prius but not the hybrids and plugins that are about to come from BMW, MB, GM and Ford not to mention Honda. Whats the go with that, seems the narrow minded bias duck has been plucked. Forget it, you are not fooling anyone but yourself. You say that hybrids will one day be worthless pieces of crap, what about all the V8 gas gusslers that GM and Ford are still so content on pushing. Grown from 5.0 ltrs to 6 and now 7. Somehow i believe they will be worthless long before hybrids not to mention all that Korean Daewoo leftovers that Holden is flogging of to the Australian public. When the world finally does purge itself of fossils fuels, battery operated vehicles and other means will be as common as combustion engines are today and you count on that. And one final note, Toyota marketing is good but thier products are better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering hybrids are increasingly becoming the favourite with many brands it seems Toyota had the right idea for the current environment all along. Never said it is the best long term solution but it is the best option today so why wouldn&#8217;t companies like Toyota promote now as it would be useless to have done so yester-year or tommorrow-year. We live now not another time. Toyota is a quality Japanese product whereas McDonalds, Holden and Ford are all American rubbish. So you have a go at the Prius but not the hybrids and plugins that are about to come from BMW, MB, GM and Ford not to mention Honda. Whats the go with that, seems the narrow minded bias duck has been plucked. Forget it, you are not fooling anyone but yourself. You say that hybrids will one day be worthless pieces of crap, what about all the V8 gas gusslers that GM and Ford are still so content on pushing. Grown from 5.0 ltrs to 6 and now 7. Somehow i believe they will be worthless long before hybrids not to mention all that Korean Daewoo leftovers that Holden is flogging of to the Australian public. When the world finally does purge itself of fossils fuels, battery operated vehicles and other means will be as common as combustion engines are today and you count on that. And one final note, Toyota marketing is good but thier products are better.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingo, nah couldn&#039;t care less about GM or Ford figures, just pushing buttons: Yours.

So ford dropped less than lexus and only slightly more than toyota?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo, nah couldn&#8217;t care less about GM or Ford figures, just pushing buttons: Yours.</p>
<p>So ford dropped less than lexus and only slightly more than toyota?</p>
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		<title>By: tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you idiot terry ford are still the number 1 pick up in the US! i never said there no 1 world wide!

 Toyota is like mcdonalds, there prduct is average yet marketed to be made out like the worlds best.

 Im certianly not saying ford or holden are any beter than toyota, so dont get that impression.

 all i have been trying to say is toyota has the world believing the only soloution is hybrid with is not the case, it may be the soloution now but like the beta cassette and lazer disc it will fade, leaving a lot of customers with a worthless and ugly piece of crap! if you do your research about hybrid cars you will find they are not as green as you think, the batteries are high in poloutants and need to be replaces every 8 to 10 years, when you way up the costs on your back pocket and the environment, the prius is a joke. full stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you idiot terry ford are still the number 1 pick up in the US! i never said there no 1 world wide!</p>
<p> Toyota is like mcdonalds, there prduct is average yet marketed to be made out like the worlds best.</p>
<p> Im certianly not saying ford or holden are any beter than toyota, so dont get that impression.</p>
<p> all i have been trying to say is toyota has the world believing the only soloution is hybrid with is not the case, it may be the soloution now but like the beta cassette and lazer disc it will fade, leaving a lot of customers with a worthless and ugly piece of crap! if you do your research about hybrid cars you will find they are not as green as you think, the batteries are high in poloutants and need to be replaces every 8 to 10 years, when you way up the costs on your back pocket and the environment, the prius is a joke. full stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, Toyota have good products McDonalds don&#039;t which is why the fitting of Holden and Ford go hand in hand with the golden arches considering each is American owned. Doesn&#039;t say much for American products. While the sales of the Tundra is rapidly increasing with record sales in 2007, the F Series and GM pick ups are sliding because of the competition. Ford is expressing concerns about the continual slide in the popularity of thier pick ups as the Tundra is erroding sales. Toyota also owns shares in Subaru, Yamaha and Isuzu. How is Ford no.1, i believe they are no.3, unprofitable and in bad shape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, Toyota have good products McDonalds don&#8217;t which is why the fitting of Holden and Ford go hand in hand with the golden arches considering each is American owned. Doesn&#8217;t say much for American products. While the sales of the Tundra is rapidly increasing with record sales in 2007, the F Series and GM pick ups are sliding because of the competition. Ford is expressing concerns about the continual slide in the popularity of thier pick ups as the Tundra is erroding sales. Toyota also owns shares in Subaru, Yamaha and Isuzu. How is Ford no.1, i believe they are no.3, unprofitable and in bad shape.</p>
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		<title>By: tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what gets me abut your argument guess who is that your talking about these great cars toyota is  doing yet very little of them have made it to production yet.......

 And AE86 which you talk about has subaru underpinnings not even toyotas!

 You talk about tundra, ford still spanks them in that class with the f truck in the US!

 What gets me, is that you really are a victim of a good advertising campaign, you would believe anything that comes out of toyotas mouth! if concept cars are all you have to believe that they are the best, do you want me to bring out the list of benz, bmw, ford, GM and volkswagen group prototypes that are prob just as good? hell vw released a gold diesel hybrid prototype and no one even gave it credit and it would put prius into the ground!!!!

 Toyota are very much like mcdonalds, they have ok products, but market it so every one thinks its the best!

 Is it ment to worry me you were in the forces and now work in the mines? and you worked a blink in the motor industry so it is insignificant. i think you need to go back working on your mine equipment and stop dreaming of toyota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what gets me abut your argument guess who is that your talking about these great cars toyota is  doing yet very little of them have made it to production yet&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p> And AE86 which you talk about has subaru underpinnings not even toyotas!</p>
<p> You talk about tundra, ford still spanks them in that class with the f truck in the US!</p>
<p> What gets me, is that you really are a victim of a good advertising campaign, you would believe anything that comes out of toyotas mouth! if concept cars are all you have to believe that they are the best, do you want me to bring out the list of benz, bmw, ford, GM and volkswagen group prototypes that are prob just as good? hell vw released a gold diesel hybrid prototype and no one even gave it credit and it would put prius into the ground!!!!</p>
<p> Toyota are very much like mcdonalds, they have ok products, but market it so every one thinks its the best!</p>
<p> Is it ment to worry me you were in the forces and now work in the mines? and you worked a blink in the motor industry so it is insignificant. i think you need to go back working on your mine equipment and stop dreaming of toyota.</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TP - you keep slating diesel for not being viable in the future but you conveniently forgotten petrol in that as well. Given that you can&#039;t drive as far on a litre of petrol, if we all drove petrol the situation would be worse wouldn&#039;t it? So buy driving disels for the short term we are potentially extended oil use in vehicles by 20-30%. Ah Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TP &#8211; you keep slating diesel for not being viable in the future but you conveniently forgotten petrol in that as well. Given that you can&#8217;t drive as far on a litre of petrol, if we all drove petrol the situation would be worse wouldn&#8217;t it? So buy driving disels for the short term we are potentially extended oil use in vehicles by 20-30%. Ah Ha!</p>
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