Comments on: Couple sets fuel economy standard in Jeep SUVs

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:12:01 +0000

australia wont have green electricity anytime soon. you cant tell me the government or the multi billion dolar mining companies would continually open up new coal mines as they are to this day if it was about to put the brakes on the operations.
why not try and offset some of your emissions? wouldnt that be a more achievable target than aiming for zero emissions?

its all a big joke any way if you ask me.
im still yet to see some proof that shows the earth is actually warming.
also increased co2 in the atmosphere can be good for the environment from what ive read

so why does the government want to tell us the sky is falling in?
so they can scare the hell out of us into paying silly “enviro taxes” and the rest of the associated control measures they want to implement.

it is exactlly what they did with the drought in implementing more control over us by using scare tatics to get us to follow the tune

By: Alec

Alec — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:22:06 +0000

I want a cleaner, greener future, but to get hydrogen you need water…. and aren’t we in a drought???
Doesn’t seem like the way forward to me at the moment.
I have met people who have cars running on water, however the amount of energy required to convert water to hydrogen, plus the chemicals(acids) required to be added to the water to conduct a sufficient electrical current to complete the conversion are quite unrealistic at the moment..

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:12:30 +0000

Nn, From what i’ve seen you write on this wed site in the past i knew you would agree…. OK good night it’s 3am in Sydney and i got to go.. Cheers mate!!!

By: No Name

No Name — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:06:33 +0000

Oh my god Carl, we got a bit heavy there but I entirely agree with you.

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:48:11 +0000

One final comment and i got to go to bed, In 50 years most of us who are alive now will be dead and in 100 years all of us will be dead and that’s around the time that SH*T will start hitting the fan as far as climate change is concerned so why bother?????

Well we should bother because we are decent people and we have to try and leave this fish bowl as clean as possible for our decendants even the ones that will be born after we die deserve our respect!!!

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:31:09 +0000

Kevin Rudd has already signed Kyoto!! it was one of the first things on his “things to do list”…. Don’t get me wrong i’m not knocking coal miners they do a hard days work and they get payed well too but we now know that burning coal is a poison for our atmosphere so we should have the guts to fase out those jobs or our grand kids will pay the price for our greed!!

By: No Name

No Name — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:20:15 +0000

Not signing the Kyoto treaty was apoor move, my limited knowledge is that its purely on the ground of economics, its easier and cheaper and better for the economy to bury ones head and dig out the lovely brown coal. Mind you we do still have a few small coal mines and we import millions of tonnes of coal from Europe. mayby blighty isn’t so good after-all.

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:27:19 +0000

^^^^^^sorry No Name meant Nn ^^^^^^^^^

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:25:56 +0000

Yes NM i’m ashamed to say that our coal and uranium miners are a too powerfull lobby group and our spineless politicians won’t take them on or rock the boat… too many potential votes to lose!! But i must say that we are embarrassingly slow to produce zero emissions electricity in this great but (not perfect) country.

Also geothermal or (hot rocks) is an option that we are dragging our feet on!!!

By: No Name

No Name — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:14:28 +0000

I recently read an article in a magazine about hydrogen. Hence my limited knowlegde. I’m no boffin but if it was that easy it would have been done ages ago. With respect to the renewables Australia are not exactly going forward with this are they!

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:50:44 +0000

No Name, i think that Hydrogen will be made from sea water using solar, wind and tidal energy or all three combined to produce the electricity needed to make the hydrogen…my 14 year old son made hydrogen at home last week from salt water and a 12 volt battery for a school project!! also theres a guy that claims that he can make hydrogen on demand with radio waves this would mean puting water in the tank and the car producing the hydrogen on the request of your accelerator pedal. (google hydrogen on demand)

It all sounds science fiction but once the oil runs out and the oil barrons lose their power these technologies will have to take off. Or maybe i’m being too naive???

By: No Name

No Name — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:55:09 +0000

Even Hydrogen has its problems, The production of Hydrogen fuel involves huge amount of energy from traditional fossil sources (or Nuclear which Australia has none), I honestly don’t know the extent but don’t kid yourself that its a totally green way forward its not, just better than diesel, hybrid and the moment.

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:12:15 +0000

The first thing you said that i totally agree with… Hydrogen is definately the way…… But until our goverments find a way to tax it and multinationals find a way to monopolise it we won’t get Hydrogen any time soon so in the mean time diesel and even better diesel hybrid will have to do!!!!

By: TP

TP — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:06:44 +0000

Regarding what I said earlier, google…. you will get 1000s of hits. It takes 25% more oil to make Diesel, until lol they start running it on cooking oil, its not a viable solution. Hydrogen is the way, followed by Electric, then Hybrid and 1000km behind… Diesel

By: Phillip

Phillip — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:37:32 +0000

I am just amazed that they made it to Berlin without anything falling off.

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:33:13 +0000

^^^^^^^ Sorry meant Raccoon ^^^^^^^^^

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:31:57 +0000

Thanks Jaycar…. reccoon scrotum…LOL, I found the clutch very sticky on my test drive and stalled it a couple of times and the sales man tried to make me feel inadequate so i won’t de buying at that dealer!!

No Name, i think you have to like Jeeps to like the patriot, i didn’t pay much attention to Jeeps until i got the oportunity to restore a 1947 Jeep willys stationwagon overlander (that was the full name) and got bitten by the Jeep bug…. but like jaycar said “looks are in the eye of the beholder” if they were’nt no one would be buying the latest Subaru’s and the guy that dicided to build the Ssanyong Stavic would have been hanged from his balls!!!

By: jaycar

jaycar — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:16:17 +0000

Hey Carl, Mine is the sport. The limited had very limited extras (excuse the pun) for the $5K premium (stacker cd, leather, driving lights thats about it). They look identical on the outside. Plus the leather was so cheap and nasty i think it was pig ear or raccoon scrotum….

Ps No Name, its funny, but the Jeep actually gets quite a few positive looks, blokes especially like the masculine look, and its retro feel. I get asked quite often if its a private import. Some of the new smooth soft designed 4×4 SUV’s look sooo dated once a faclift occurs, whereas Jeeps, as boxy as they may be, seem to stay true to their origins and therefore shape. But as they say, its all in the eye of the beholder…

By: Realcars

Realcars — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:03:03 +0000

Diesel engines are far more versatile in terms of what they can run on. I think u will find modern diesels are cleaner than petrol engines. Amazing what has been achieved so far as diesel engines have been the poor cousin in the past.

By: No Name

No Name — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:09:08 +0000

Is it me or are those Jeeps just plain ugly.

TP – your talking nonsense. where did you get that info from, i’d be interested to read it myself. Did you ever see the Top Gear programme where they ran a Volvo on used cooking oil. You’re just bitter that Toyota don’t make a decent competative diesel engine.