Comments on: 2008 Melbourne Motor Show

By: Ghost

Ghost — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:54:55 +0000

so dissapointed 2008 motoshow
Benz was not there…maybe they chose the right way not to join this year!!!

By: Richo

Richo — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:06:26 +0000

its just like how when alfa romeo needed to replace their simply brilliant 3.2ltr V6 due to tigher emmissions laws which they simply could not meet so rather then going through the expensive excercise of designing an all new engine they simply took the 3.2ltr version of the alloytec and reworked it’s heads so that it still made that awesome alfa romeo V6 engine note. It’s way more cost effective to do that then do all the work yourselfs, why develop your own bottom end when GM has done a perfectly good job

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:47:08 +0000

Arrrrrr,realy.OK

But yep I agree with keeping the engine,bit of a waste other wise.

I don’t think they will ever discount not using another supplier…….times are changing that way with manufacturing costs it seems.

By: Richo

Richo — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:33:33 +0000

yeah thats for their DIESEL engine, they still have the 1.6ltr PETROL engine as fitted to the mini.

And anyway even though now the joint venture is over, they are still obviously going to keep using the engine they have already designed, no point discontinuing a perfectly good engine. All this means is that they will not make any more joint venture engines in the future

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:15:50 +0000

MMM,thats weird then.Auto Blog reported they had.Take a squizz …………who knows?

“BMW has said “non, merci” to continuing its diesel engine partnership with PSA Peugeot Citroen. The two automakers began working together two years ago to create 1.4- and 1.6-liter gasoline engines for BMW’s MINI and PSA cars. Despite both companies at the end of last year looking at expanding their joint research into a high-tech engine, the synergies weren’t providing the cost benefits desired with the small engine, so the affair has come to an end.

By: Richo

Richo — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:32:19 +0000

Just double checked for ya, the mini’s engine is still the very same 1.6ltr direct injected turbo as found in the peugeot 207 gti.

Apparently BMW designed the engine and peugeot builds it

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:04:56 +0000

naa Richo I think BMW pulled the pin with them late last year.Yep Daimler Chrysler did do them first ,in Brazil…

By: Richo

Richo — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:57:07 +0000

same engine is in the new peugeot 207 gti and apparently its even better in that then it is in the mini. Very very nice little engine

By: Richo

Richo — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:56:17 +0000

Peugeot is still building engines for mini’s, which is so so sooooooo much better then the rubbish engine they had in the first new mini which i think was made by chrysler wan’t it? whoever it was rubbish! brought down the rest of the car

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:38:24 +0000

Explains why my 5 series had problems with the Auto Richo……hahaha.Just jokes!

Gee Dingo you were almost pleasant there for a minute..then you top it off with Toyotas mighty force…

I can remember seeing that article on Auto blog not sure if they decided to go ahead though….it does make sense to share costs though. No matter what the reason,it good business sense.I mean Peugeot were building engines for BMW
Minis for a while……