But yep I agree with keeping the engine,bit of a waste other wise.

I don’t think they will ever discount not using another supplier…….times are changing that way with manufacturing costs it seems.

And anyway even though now the joint venture is over, they are still obviously going to keep using the engine they have already designed, no point discontinuing a perfectly good engine. All this means is that they will not make any more joint venture engines in the future

“BMW has said “non, merci” to continuing its diesel engine partnership with PSA Peugeot Citroen. The two automakers began working together two years ago to create 1.4- and 1.6-liter gasoline engines for BMW’s MINI and PSA cars. Despite both companies at the end of last year looking at expanding their joint research into a high-tech engine, the synergies weren’t providing the cost benefits desired with the small engine, so the affair has come to an end.

Apparently BMW designed the engine and peugeot builds it

Gee Dingo you were almost pleasant there for a minute..then you top it off with Toyotas mighty force…

I can remember seeing that article on Auto blog not sure if they decided to go ahead though….it does make sense to share costs though. No matter what the reason,it good business sense.I mean Peugeot were building engines for BMW
Minis for a while……

Not an extremist just someone with his head screwed ‘on’ not ‘off’ like most wacky Holden/Ford clowns.

Bavarian – refer Wheels March 2008 page 28 …. it also appears that BMW and Mercedes are joining forces to combat the Japanese invasion.

quote … ” As unlikely as it may seem, Mercedes-Benz and BMW are about to move much closer together. The Teutonic arch-rivals are both nervously eyeing the rapid expansion of Lexus into Europe (backed by the all-conquering Toyota), while the success od Audi(backed by the might of the VE group) is not slipping past unnoticed either. The pressure is mounting” … unquote

gee – seems the mighty force of Toyota is on every manufactuers radar.

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They had to cancel the northstar II engine because of stupid new US laws requiring fleet fuel economy averages to be something unrealistic like 7.0l per 100km’s

The aussie car industry is a great industry and something we should be proud of but unfortunately you lot and your extreem attitudes take the aussie car industry back to the bad old days when aussie cars rated right up there with american cars as complete rubbish, albeit tough and reliable rubbish. Ofcourse we had great moments in our past such as the GT falcons and the hot torana’s, but the fact of the matter is we produced alot of crap and its only now since probably the BA falcon and VY commodore that we have started producing some seriously world class cars in australia and we should be bloody proud of that and not get soo bloody side tracked trying to slag off the other side which frankly you only do that because your daddy taught you too

From Auto Blog”" Word out of Frankfurt from the Financial Times Deutschland is that BMW is in talks to sell engines and transmissions to both General Motors and Fiat. All three companies have declined to officially comment.

The news is interesting, but not surprising. You may recall that GM has been selling transmissions to BMW for well over a decade for use in various 3 Series and 5 Series models (the current BMW 328i automatic uses a 6-speed GM 6L45 unit). So far, however, all have been automatic transmissions.

Speculating about the details, our tipster suggests that BMW may be helping GM with their SMG-style transmission program. As for the engines? It is possible that BMW could be selling its 4.4L V8 for the Cadillac line or lending GM a twin-turbo to compete with Ford’s twin-turbo direct-injected V6″”end quote

Sounds like that could be interesting……never knew GM supplied BMW!

I’m sorry to tell you this, but anyone who have such extreem attitudes against holden or ford, i’m sorry but your not real car enthousiasts, your just stupid fanboys running around with completely irrational and cliche’d and often hypocritical arguments that only really serve to make you look like complete wankers

Fact of the matter is, the coupe 60 looked great, the HSV mechanically sounds awesome, front end styling a bit iffy however, and the new falcon range is clearly a great range of motor cars, although by no means diffinitively better then holdens offering. For mine, they look like pretty line ball now the commodore and the falcon and which one you buy will ultimately come down to personal preference as i severely doubt one will be any more remarkable then the other.

oh and the whole “holden are gonna shit when fpv release their power figures” crap, mate if they where going to be so fantastic fpv would have released them already. According to both wheels and motor the power figures will be around the 315kw which is hardly that dominant over the HSV’s 307kw (wow 8kw…)

…Another Toyota extremist!

Holden was so busy fighting for that Toyota sneeked past them and now does almost more sales than Ford and Holden combined, yet Holden still place all of their effort on trying to out manouver Ford.

Maybe they’ve given up on first place and are desperate to at least hold on to second place. Loosers