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	<title>Comments on: Are Ford and Holden really scared of the Toyota Aurion?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-82202</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt Aurion has more features than Commo and Falcon even new model for example, 6 speed auto and side curtain airbags are already included on all aurion models but not on commo and falcon.
I think ppl should have a look up the web pages showing the pricing and packages from Toyota, Holden and Ford before they say shyts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt Aurion has more features than Commo and Falcon even new model for example, 6 speed auto and side curtain airbags are already included on all aurion models but not on commo and falcon.<br />
I think ppl should have a look up the web pages showing the pricing and packages from Toyota, Holden and Ford before they say shyts.</p>
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		<title>By: OTH KIRK</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-77665</link>
		<dc:creator>OTH KIRK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i dont DOUBT it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i dont DOUBT it</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-77228</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And again, I&#039;ll say.  &quot;I really dought it!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And again, I&#8217;ll say.  &#8220;I really dought it!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-77227</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I admit Toyota do build and engineer some decent cars built to last.. It&#039;s often their exterior/unterior design that lets them down.

As Holden Designers Richard Fellazzo and Peter Hughes said.
The way a car looks is one of the most important things inorder for a car to sell and [hopefully] become a success - particularly as these days its all about image and the car says so much about the owner
 
If a car looks good it will attract potential customers and make them want to have a closer look.. 
They walk up to it open the door and if the interior looks good it will make them want to have a seat.. 
When they sit inside slide behind the wheel if it feels good ergonomic they&#039;ll want to start her up.. 
If the engine sounds good it will make them want to go for a test drive and if the cars handling and performance is good it will make them want to buy one..

Then the only decision they have to make is which colour they want</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I admit Toyota do build and engineer some decent cars built to last.. It&#8217;s often their exterior/unterior design that lets them down.</p>
<p>As Holden Designers Richard Fellazzo and Peter Hughes said.<br />
The way a car looks is one of the most important things inorder for a car to sell and [hopefully] become a success &#8211; particularly as these days its all about image and the car says so much about the owner</p>
<p>If a car looks good it will attract potential customers and make them want to have a closer look..<br />
They walk up to it open the door and if the interior looks good it will make them want to have a seat..<br />
When they sit inside slide behind the wheel if it feels good ergonomic they&#8217;ll want to start her up..<br />
If the engine sounds good it will make them want to go for a test drive and if the cars handling and performance is good it will make them want to buy one..</p>
<p>Then the only decision they have to make is which colour they want</p>
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		<title>By: OTH KIRK</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-77214</link>
		<dc:creator>OTH KIRK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought an Aurion , FANTASTIC CAR  , go`s like a rocket but safer , makes holden and ford seem second rate , love it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an Aurion , FANTASTIC CAR  , go`s like a rocket but safer , makes holden and ford seem second rate , love it</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-70908</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really dought it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really dought it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-45810</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jack...&lt;/strong&gt;

I never knew this, and i have done my research on this, hours i have spent on the Search engines to get it right, thanks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jack&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I never knew this, and i have done my research on this, hours i have spent on the Search engines to get it right, thanks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im sure ford are scared of the toyota aurion..but holden are far from it! soon holden might have some challenge with toyota..and ford will just give up and try and battle with hyundai or...kia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sure ford are scared of the toyota aurion..but holden are far from it! soon holden might have some challenge with toyota..and ford will just give up and try and battle with hyundai or&#8230;kia</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew. M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1075/are-ford-and-holden-really-scared-of-the-toyota-aurion/#comment-17974</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew. M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,
1. we are talking about now not 3 yrs away cause i can tell you ford are working on a turbo xr6 hydrogen car.

2. toyota do so add special models the altise sports. remember that?? and i see they are discounting camrys at the moment like 29k drive out. dont say they dont do it and what does it matter. they do it to boost sales, to give em a spur on otherwise they go a bit stale.

3. what im saying is if people have the choice it would be wheels over airbags eg. people think like........ hey i can afford another  3k - 3.5k hmmmmm airbags or sporty set up?? yep of course sports. take a look why does the XR6 out sell the fairmont and the SV6 outsell the calais?

4. well looks are a matter of opinion but you cant argue you are getting prob the same value put in to exterior styling. and the toyota needs more bracing cause its FWD. a strut brace for eg. wont do s**t on a RWD car. they dont need them. now here is a fact, the falcon handles better than the aurion. it has just fallen into 2nd behind the commodore thanks to their improvements

5.well stop laughing at yourself. you havent proven anything. yes you can point out 2 things for an extra $2500+ yet the falcon still has a couple of distinct features on its own. maybe the extra the falcon still has like parking sensors etc arent as expensive as airbags but thats why i call that coupled with the $2500+ a fair test for value.
also just because things arent listed on extras/options lists doesnt mean they arent on offer. for eg toyota doesnt list a towbar?
and for the record ford does list side airbags on options list, and i am still waiting to hear what &quot;PILE&quot; of features toyota still has over the ford APART FROM AIRBAGS!!! because that is where that $2500 premium comes in.
P.S. ford does have the driver aids of ABS, EBD, DSC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
1. we are talking about now not 3 yrs away cause i can tell you ford are working on a turbo xr6 hydrogen car.</p>
<p>2. toyota do so add special models the altise sports. remember that?? and i see they are discounting camrys at the moment like 29k drive out. dont say they dont do it and what does it matter. they do it to boost sales, to give em a spur on otherwise they go a bit stale.</p>
<p>3. what im saying is if people have the choice it would be wheels over airbags eg. people think like&#8230;&#8230;.. hey i can afford another  3k &#8211; 3.5k hmmmmm airbags or sporty set up?? yep of course sports. take a look why does the XR6 out sell the fairmont and the SV6 outsell the calais?</p>
<p>4. well looks are a matter of opinion but you cant argue you are getting prob the same value put in to exterior styling. and the toyota needs more bracing cause its FWD. a strut brace for eg. wont do s**t on a RWD car. they dont need them. now here is a fact, the falcon handles better than the aurion. it has just fallen into 2nd behind the commodore thanks to their improvements</p>
<p>5.well stop laughing at yourself. you havent proven anything. yes you can point out 2 things for an extra $2500+ yet the falcon still has a couple of distinct features on its own. maybe the extra the falcon still has like parking sensors etc arent as expensive as airbags but thats why i call that coupled with the $2500+ a fair test for value.<br />
also just because things arent listed on extras/options lists doesnt mean they arent on offer. for eg toyota doesnt list a towbar?<br />
and for the record ford does list side airbags on options list, and i am still waiting to hear what &#8220;PILE&#8221; of features toyota still has over the ford APART FROM AIRBAGS!!! because that is where that $2500 premium comes in.<br />
P.S. ford does have the driver aids of ABS, EBD, DSC</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one major error.... when I said Indepdent rear suspension I meant &#039;sports&#039; IRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one major error&#8230;. when I said Indepdent rear suspension I meant &#8216;sports&#8217; IRS</p>
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