Melbourne Motor Show: Holden Coupe 60 Concept

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By George Skentzos | February 29th, 2008

Holden’s best kept secret has finally been revealed, to celebrate its 60th Anniversary it has finally showcased the absolutely brilliant Coupe60.

Inspired by the V8 Supercar, the Coupe60 concept features a pillarless design, full compliment of carbon-fibre bucket seats and race inspired cockpit.

Under the bonnet lurks the 6.0-litre LS2 V8 engine calibrated for E85 Ethanol fuel mated to an SS specification 6-speed manual gearbox. The side exiting exhausts bark an engine note more accustomed to a NASCAR.

Riding on 21-inch alloy wheels wrapped in semi-slick Kumho rubber, and finished in a handsome Diamond Silver paint finish, the Coupe60 certainly looks the part as a performance car.

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we shouldn’t be surprised that their new concept is a “new” monaro. Looks great. love the low roof line.
Hope it makes production.
Doc

O….M….G

That looks awesome. Has really great proportions, and I love the pillarless doors. I wonder whether Holden will now go into the denial spin of “Oh no, this is concept only” like they did with the Monaro. Granted, the chance of this thing being built is probably pretty low, but still. Two thumbs up.
Masynee

Stunning!
Reckless1

OK, I’ll have one of these with the W427 drivetrain, please.
Reckless1

I’ve got a problem, lads.

I can’t make up my mind whether to look at this car, and the W127, or whether to look at the Orion when I go to the show tomorrow.

Bahahahahahaha
Tony M

As a concept car, great, but as a production car, I don’t think so. You would have to sacrifice to much of the “mumbo” appearance to make it drivable on the streets. What do I mean?. For starters the wheels would have to be smaller or they would be riped apart at the first bump you hit. I know I might be a bit over the top in critizing a concept car but this is only a show stopper where the “Torana of a couple of years ago was a real viable car.
Mitchell

incredible, i love it, build it Holden
Lcat

Stunning!
Is this the coupe that might end up being built in Canada?
Skybreak

It looks awesome, but if it makes it into production I’d be supprised to see it with without B pillars.

Don’t forget that the original Camero concept was pillarless, but the near-production Cameros in recent spy shots definatley have B pillars.

Either way, this is still a nice car and I’d be happy to see one in a Holden showroom.
Bucket (Formerly Known as Chris)

Looks fantastic! But having said that…it’s just a concept and may only possibly see production in an incredibly watered down form.
Holden are probably also hoping it’ll steal people away from the New Falcon and BMW stands
Reckless1

Bucket, I think car enthusiasts will look at all 3 stands, and come away impressed from 2 of them. The other one will have them asking “is there anything new here?”
http://67mustangblog.com Cameron

Side exhausts ey! i wonder if they are functional. obviously they are. But the thing is i’ve enquired about side exhausts and was told they were illegal. you were allowed to have one side functional only, the right side.
golfschwein

Sensational! How can this not be the new Monaro?

I’d love to see it pillarless in production, despite the Camaro having pillars. Yeah, I know, it’s wishful thinking.

Front guards, side exit exhausts and wheels are all easily toned down for production, I would think.

I love the homage to the old red racing stripe on the tyres of the old Monaros and I reckon the beaut steering wheel will find its way into production too.
Ford

Great car, but, if ever it gets into production the limited volume and high fuel costs will quickly kill it off.

Top marks for design- stole the show from Ford.
KJ

A two door Commodore, how exciting….. what next, a two door Commodore…. oops
Richo

Ford – mate all the people who say fuel costs will kill of any v8 commodores and falcons are bloody idiots! Mate look at the facts, Holdens V8 commodore sales have been steadily increasing since the gen3 was launched back in 1999 and since the VE has been released Holden is selling more V8′s then they ever have in their existance, this all despite the high fuel prices and the simultanious decline in demand for large cars!

Seriously mate people who buy V8′s aren’t concerned about fuel prices, infact ANYONE who buys a sports car of any kind is usually not at all concerned about the price of fuel, just because you are doesn’t mean everyone else is
Richo

as for whether or not it will make it into production, GM’s head product planner Bob Lutz said at the last detriot motor show that holden where showing a concept car in australia soon which will “knock everyones socks off” and more importantly “will be built and sold in australia”

to me that says this is the next monaro… but we’ll see i guess
Bavarian Missile

Holly crap……….wow that looks good.

Not sure of the back guards though,look a bit too flared.
GhisGT

Only thing I don’t like about it is that I can’t buy one.

If it drove anything like a normal SS does and cost under $85k, I would buy one.

Totally stunning.
golfschwein

Uh oh, here come the 2 door Commodore jibes. It’s looking like sour grapes to me.
Richo

Golfschwein, let em go man, i mean they are clearly immensely inteligent to work out that it only has 2 doors, and its a commodore! Wow lets call it a 2 door commodore!!! i mean seriously they are pretty smart cookies ay?

I wonder if these same people complain that a BMW 3 series coupe is just a 2 door 3 series, or that the last couple of nissan GTR’s where just 2 door skylines… seriously some people just don’t like holdens and therefore can’t bring themselfs to saying “hey i dont like holdens, but that one does look pretty cool” instead they have to make big nobs of themselfs by going “whaa its just a 2 door commodore.. nothing new there… what silly heads holden are, V8′s use too much fuel, whaa whaa whaa”
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

Love it totally as stunning and boiling hot….
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

Must admit the front end look should have totally been revamped as the Commodore look again
Oz.

Geez, looks like there was quite an unveiling!
stumpy

It is a solid design it looks good I just wish the would have put a different front on it to make it look unlike a commodore.

Not that it matters to me my head hits the roof on the old models and this one would be the same.
Myke

Looks great, well done Holden.
Richo

Stumpy, if your head hits the roof in a commodore then i’m afaird that your head is probably going to hit the roof in 90% of cars on the road.. maybe you need to buy a convertable?
harmful81

“seriously some people just don’t like holdens and therefore can’t bring themselfs to saying “hey i dont like holdens, but that one does look pretty cool””

vice versa.

LOL – spam word was ‘daewoo’
o

finally i commodore i like and it might not even be built the tail end needs some work but otherwise i love ti.please holden dont make past mistakes and not build it or put it off for like 4 year ,

mistakes = not building torana and efigy
RoFlmaTiC

This is a great effort from Holden, but as has been said, hopefully a production version, if made will stay true to the concept. Hopefully not an outrageous wish, Mitsubishi kept the evo x very similar to the concept because of the tremendous reaction it got.
http://navelcontemplation.blogspot.com Supercujo

O: The Effigy was not and never will be a production vehicle.

It is way too retro to work on the showroom floor.

The Torana on the other hand is a must build as Holden cannot expect to survive on Commodore sales in a dwindling large car market.
Wheelnut

This is the Coupe that Will be built in Canada.. as will the Torana
The Torana will become the Pontiac G6 and the Coupe will become either the GTO or even the Grand Prix. However there is also the possibility of a Torana Coupe.
The Torana will be built on the same Insignia Platform as the New Vectra which can accept AWD

When the Torana is released However I expect that it will be called the Commodore as Holden are looking at continuing the Name but just making the #1 selling car in Oz a bit more “compact”
Wheelnut

Side exhausts are legal provided the tips go beyond the trailing edge of the rear passenger door..
I’d say that dual exhausts would be okay as the Shelby Cobra [and Robnell Replicas] have the traditional side pipes
Wheelnut

If this car makes it into production.. Then the next logical step is to work on a hard top Cabriolet Coupe.. with a little help from Bertone or Pinnafarina
http://caradvice.com ….

Front looks like any other Commodore. Concrete slab.
SRTargets

God damn it I want to see pictures but the damns thing dont load. Upgrade your servers quick smart!
Wheelnut

I think the correct term is “Commo-2-dore” maybe Ford should consider building a “Fal-coupe”
Richo

Wheelnut – most of what you said regarding where it will be built and what else will be built off it along with your comments about the torana i believe to be true EXCEPT the torana will be built off the Alpha platform, not the Epsilon 2 platform which will sprout the insignia/vectra. Insignia is the model name that will replace vectra in europe, its not the platform name which as i said will be epsilon 2 (epsilon 1 is the platform under the current vectra)

The alpha platform which the torana will be built off is a RWD platform which has been designed to be the basis of the new cadillac BLS (the current BLS is built off the epsilon 1 platform and is essentially a re-bodied saab 9-3)

hope this clears a bit up
Brian

Still has the BA style head lights (not original & boring), looks like a dressed up Commondore they axed the last monaro because it was boring and way to pricey, you need a big bank balance to purchase a $20,000 loss after 12 months, I think you would be better off buying something that gains interest not big depreciation, come on Holden stop thinking you can compete with BMW and still keep fooling the public, geez your one solitary half made in Australia Commondore are no different to a Korean Daewoo at least Woo’s don’t have many recalls, just a bad name is enough to make anyone cry…
Richo

Oh and the torana won’t take over the commodore plate, holden plans to continue to use the current VE based commodore through untill 2014 at least, although it will go through various upgrades in that time ofcourse, so torana will have to go with a different name, and i don’t believe the production version will carry the torana plate either.

Holden doesn’t need to replace the commodore with the torana, the commodore will eventually become their more upmarket car, ultimately only having the calais and SSV in its range as well as HSV’s, dropping the omega and berlina models as the torana will take over their market, and the commodore will become holdens main exports model and will keep that end of their business up and running while the torana will take over as being their main domestic model.

Essentially the commodore will become primarily holdens luxury and performance car and the torana, by whatever name it is ultimately given, will become holdens main domestic “family car”. The torana most probably won’t be exported, holden will leave those duties to the commodore
Richo

Brian if you are trying to suggest that a BMW APpreciates in value rather then depreciates like every other car then your as stupid as the rest of your post indicates you are
Brian

Not as much ya dim wit, takes a few more years as past history tells us, just think before shooting off your half educated comments….
Richo

Mate you said “I think you would be better off buying something that gains interest not big depreciation”

gains interest.. now when something gains interest it does what kids? GAINS IN VALUE! therefore it APPRECIATES! very good class!

How about YOU think about what YOU are trying to say before shooting off your own half educated comments – let me guess because i happen to think holdens are a bit alright then i must be some un-educated tradie right? Sorry your not even close to being right! ya dim wit
Brian

I wasn’t referring to BMW apreciating in value, I was mearly saying putting your your into something that gains interest like a bank for instance, new cars are such a money wasting venture, it scares me but we have to have them for pleasure but when it comes to big losses after 12 months you wonder is it worth buying a new commondore for such a high price..
Brian

Are you the CEO from Holden or are you a tradie, really doesn’t matter, though most Holden supporters don’t make sense so quit ya gibba jabba ya crazy fool…
Richo

Well Brian, your obviously not all that smart with money, because people who are know that through the wonders of salary packaging and leasing it can actually be more economical to buy a new car then a second hand car, just as i have done. And no i’m not a tradie, i’m someone who’s job dictates that i know what i’m talking about when it comes to financial matters

and quite my “gibba jabba ya crazy fool…”??? you realise that Mr T hasn’t been popular since the horse drawn cart?
Brian

Yes the only people to afford one are people smart enough to negative gear a purchase through good accountants, lenders etc etc, leasing is just one part of owning a vehicle I own my 2004 model 4WD with no money hicups and yes I’m a virgin with money investing but on track to buy what I want when I want but maybe not a veyron hahahaha….
Bavarian Missile

hahaha Richo…….your a crack up.Simmer down babe!

I hear what you say..Ive been leasing cars for 20+ years.

I drive a German Commodore and as I said to Wheelnut tonight
Its not just about looks and grunt,Germans refine their cars,Holden of course use the benchmarks to copy this from !

So …….no different than Lexus I guess!
Bavarian Missile

WHAT……..NEGATIVE GEAR…..what are you talking about????????

People with tax bills lease cars……why give it to the tax man when you can drive it!!!!!!

I love the fact cars depreciate ,cause thats less tax I pay!Yet still I can drive my dream car.Will I own it,yep payout is still less than the valuation on it so I will this one.She is my baby……Others I haven’t given a rip about.

Lease is up next year and Ill pay it out ,then Ill look for an E46 M3……my next leased car.
Richo

Yepo, what BM said
Realcars

Still paying at least 50 cents in the dollar for the luxury. Still isn’t free if it’s legal of course.
Means can lease a new car and turn it over every couple years paying a pretax contribution making it cheaper than private ownership especially if u want to stay up to date. Gotta do at least 15k though otherwise fringe benefit bites.
Realcars

Never ceases to amaze me how most High Income Earners/ Professionals are often good at what they DO but know jack shit about anything else.

Uneducated Tradie.

P.S How gracious of u to patronise Holden despite your illustrious background.
http://www.sillbeer.com Brendan Underwood

I have to say, this is one of the most cohesive designs for a car thats come out of Holden I’ve ever seen. The interior especially is just percect. I suppose I’m used to seeing the lavishing of leather gravy that HSV is so renowned for with multicoloured coats, that make this so refreshing. Harking back to the same sort of design at the early Ferrari 308 design, coupled with modern material and tech advanced cluster and finishes. Best I’ve seen from a concept in a long while.

As for the exterior, I keep seeing glimpses of Japanese time attack cars in the front splitter and almost perfectly offset rims. Something I would normally see coming out of Osaka than Fishermans Bend. Well done to the Holden design team. From a die hard Jap car enthusiast, you hit the nail fair and square.

Cheers
Brendan
http://www.importjap.com/blog ImportJap

As usual, plenty of deriders and haters. But this is an excellent looking concept, and a pillarless coupe to boot.

Holden’s far from perfect, but they (and Ford too!) are building cars that other countries are lusting over, particularly the all important US market. They’re doing well and it can only be a good thing for Australia’s reputation.
Realcars

…the exceptions would be Medical Doctors and Dentists in my experience.
Bavarian Missile

Ease up Realcars……..Im a high income earner….and have a wide range of experiences in life.

Were not all infernal students babe!
Wheelnut

Yeah but Unlike GM who has seen what great RWD cars Holden can Design/Build… Ford is still reluctant/refusing to Allow Ford Oz to shine.

I think thy have a “superior inferiority complex”.. They like to think that their US products are Superior and aren’t letting any others in because then the Americans will see just hw Inferior they are compared to ours
Realcars

There are exceptions of course BM ….
Just defending those of us with dirt under our fingernails and callous on our hands.

Agree what u say about the Yanks.

Seen a Mega Factory Doco on Foxtel once about how the Yanks regurgitate the Abrams Tank. Apparently they haven’t built a brand new one for years just keep reconditioning the current stock. They stip them back to nothing including the paint/ bolts everything and start again in the one huge factory.

Kind of sums up the Yanks approach to manufacturing for me.
http://ford Nick

Gorgeous motor car!!! All this while ford is unveiling the BF mark 3, AKA the FG. Im a long suffering ford lover. Pull your fingers out Ford, and give us something we’ve been waiting for all our lives lol. GTHO Phase V!!!!! Build it punks, and give it some huge balls.
Bavarian Missile

Wheelnut ………..Love you,,talk tomorrow!

Realcars…….yeah there are exceptions like US!

Nick………..Rod won’t call it phase 5 though! I don’t think Rod has a problem with round things………believe me!
No Name

Not wanting to interfere with your lovely Australian cars but that Coupe is decidedly average. It got styling cues from the late nineties Astra Bertone Coupe. Dated. Sorry, just my opinion. I’m sure i’ll chastised for saying it.
Joober

Realcars, the M1A2 Abrams probably is such a beasty tank that it never gets blown apart in wars! theres no need to churn new tanks when you have plentiful just give a good freshen up for the next crew, from what I remember is was top 3 if not #1 in the world in that top10 show they used to have during the day on either Sat or Sun, and remembered it had pretty crazy stats on it.

Unfortunately it doesnt go to well with the Blackhawks lol.
Richo

Realcars – i hope you wheren’t refering to me in those comments, all i meant by the uneducated tradie comment was that there are alot of elitests out there who think that anyone who likes holdens must be the stereotypical low income earning bogan, i certainly didn’t mean to insinuate that tradies fall into that bracket, i’m sorry if you felt it is.

Mate i spent my first 5 years out of school workin 12-14 hours a day as a courier so i know what it’s like to work hard physical jobs, but mate just because i sit behind a desk now doesn’t mean i don’t work hard!

I just get the shits when people see the car i drive and the suit i wear to work and immediately make assumptions, just the same as you feel when people stereotype you just because of the dirt under your finger nails and callous on your hands…

The only difference is, people dont wish bad will on you mate! But everyday i meet people who hate me purely because of the salary i earn! I had one bitch who i had parked next to come over, look at my car and said “fckin prick in your fancy car, who’d ya rip off to buy that ya fckin asshole!” when i replied “well the taxpayers i guess who funded my public education but i’m guessing you don’t even earn an income let alone pay tax so you wouldn’t fall into that bracket would ya” you should have heard the language coming out of her mouth! Sailors would have run away screamin for their mummies!
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

UNEDUCATED TRADIE……mate really you people believe every word you spew forth! Get in the real world and dont hassle classes as Iam a builder (LOL courier hard job) and have no time for some chardonnay with biscuit and dip in hand comments followed by a latte!
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

We aint on here to listen to your chest banging and self praise as we really dont care.

As for the car….what this topic is about, its hot and classy – but still Commodorish front and rear lights and grille. That should of been changed a lot!
Wheelnut

On Behalf of Bavarian Missile and Myself; I would like to wish Matt Brogan a Happy 31st Birthday.. Today.

You’re doing an excellent job looking after the site whilst the rest of the boys are travelling the world visiting motorshows etc

Happy Birthday Matt
Bavarian Missile

hahahaha…….great minds think a like honey,just said Happy Birthday as well to Matt.
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

Matt…happy birthday and doing a splendid job.

WOOO HOOO “LOVE IS IN THE AIR”….cant help but notice last couple comments!
Oz.

I say Happy birthday too Matt.

If this coup’e goes into production, wouldn’t it have an LS III 6.2? And I doubt if the side pipes would be there.
http://www.importjap.com ImportJap

Yep, belated happy birthday

Oz: I’ve seen pics on the interior, and big and clear is ‘boost’ on the dash, making me believe it’s the 6.2L LS9 supercharged rather than 6.2L LS3, though I doubt it would receive that engine in reality
golfschwein

Chastising awaits, No Name! Not for not liking it, but for spotting an Astra Coupe in there. Where? I remember the Astra Coupe. It was never sold here, but it copped a bit of a sting from the UK press for being a mini-me Calibra, which was a gorgeous looking car.

In profile, the rear passenger windows of both ended in a point rather than the pronounced BMW-like kick.

If there’s anything it bears a passing resemblance to, it’s the recent Opel GTC Concept Coupe, particularly in profile.
Lcat

No Name was last seen on the same plane as Prince Harry…hehe
golfschwein

Maybe he could ask Prince Harry for an autograph! If he’s sober.
Andrew M

whats with all the happy birthdays? i had one the other day and didnt get a mention ha ha ha ha
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If this goes into production which i’m sure it will, Ford will have got a real problem on there hands. The FG will not be able to remotely compete with it nor a derivative of it. The swinging buyer who are not hardened Ford or Holden fans will alway spend there 80K on this rather the equivalent Ford. It’s a shame as Ford are a great product.
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

ANDREW M…Happy Birthday for the other day mate! Come on others cant leave him out! SLACKOS….Ha Ha Ha
Bavarian Missile

Poor Baby….well you would if you told me when it was Mr Secretive….so how old were you ? 25……..Just a guess!

Happy Birthday for the other day.Hope you had a good one and got lots of presies. So your a Pisces?
Andrew M

gee i love the guessing game……
the only thing u got right was my star sign

about time ha ha ha ha
oh and im not 5ft1 either like you guessed a while ago ha ha ha
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

ANDREW M…gee just over 5ft! Iam 6ft 4in and medium build and weigh 110kgs! You have not got the rare “SMALL MANS SYNDROME” as I have sighted this in many small men!
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

Bait cast!
Damo

Well I take it you must have Marfan’s Syndrome then Naughtyius?? I mean I am 6″1 but your height is rediculous.
Andrew M

NM,
hey i am not 5ft 1!!!!!!!!!

wait oh yes it was a bait ha ha ha ha
Andrew M

NM,
with your build you should be on biggest loser,
actually arent you a member of the red team?

bait cast…………….
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

SNAP….gee shivers where did that come from; I cant remove the hook! Ouch.

Ha Ha – syndrome! I have rode bikes in a velodrome…does that count!

Hey I seriously am not fat. But I do like big fat pizzas, there big and there cheesy!

I do own some ripper fishing rods and have many Penn reels. Will put the burley out…as I always do!
Richo

Naughtyius – mate you’ve completely missed my point, i was trying to appologise for any offense i had caused by people miss understanding what i was saying. Mate i’m no latte sipper either, my point was that people make assumptions about so called “professionals” just like they do towards tradies, and quite often they are wide of the mark. In my instance, i drive a fancy car that is actually a company car, i don’t own it, and i wear a suit 100% because my job requires me too, not because i want to. Mate i pull in 45k a year, hardly big bloody money! most tradies pull in a fckn lot more then that! That was my point, that people make incorrect judgements on people all the time and its not just against tradies but its against other people too, that was my point, sorry you missed it.

And mate 14 hours a day is a hard job as a courier, don’t forget out of that 14 hours your spending atleast half that time lugging heavy boxes and building equipement around (i wasn’t a bloody letter courier, i carried heavy stuff) and i didn’t sit back having a forklift unloud me either, it was all done by hand. I’ve worked as a labourer on a building site aswell and i reckon the job i was doing was just as hard

oh and the “uneducated” part of the uneducated tradie comment was not meant in offence, i was saying that that is the stereotype which other people use in relation to tradies, i wasn’t saying that that is what i think, quite the opposite. Surely if you read my comments you would have seen that i was trying to stand up for tradies with my comments, not have a go at them. I say again, i said uneducated purely as that is the stereotype and i was having a go at other people for using that stereotype and i was saying that i dont believe it for one second and i hate it when other people think it

geez i was trying to stand up for people like you and instead you attack me! lol
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

Is cool Richo and all I did was look at two words “UNEDUCATED TRADIE”. Sorry for any hassle mate!
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

ADDENDUM TO “BIGGEST LOSER COMMENT”…why would I watch as Iam most certainly not a smidgeon of fat on me – but I have to sort through the quagmire of them in my capacity as a builder. There everywhere! 2,789,000wide and 16,458,032 deep and still they march forward.
Andrew M

NM,
yep there have been plenty of “over weight” people who have come knocking on my door for a job.
the reality of it is they are not only a danger to themselves on a building site but also to others.

also they are also unable to do the physical tasks asked of them.
Richo

i wonder how “over weight” are you referring too? I’m not anywhere near “biggest loser” sized overweight, but at 103kg i’m not exactly an athlete either however i’m confident that i can hold my own against anyone in any kind of physical job! At the end of the day its not really the physical attributes of a person that establishes how well they will do the job, its the mental attitude. Theres plenty of skinny pretty boys out there who would be too affraid of breaking a finger nail
Bavarian Missile

Gee Andrew you are tease. So your not 25 ? I thought you said your around Tonyns age!

Its like extracting teeth getting info from you.

So your taller than me?
Richo

oh and i’m around 5 foot 6 or something, so at 103kg = overweight, but thankfully not stupidly so, i should probably be at around 90kg
Bavarian Missile

Hey Richo where are you in OZ?

Join a GYM and become a junkie like US disciplined people ….

Wheelnut could give you some tips on how he got his 8 pac! Lucky me ha!No Easter eggs for him when Im over there at Easter,but Im guessing he wont need gym for 6 days either..hahaha
Andrew M

richo,
fair comment,

i also believe its the mental ability of people which is a big factor in their physical ability and weight.
an active mind is as good as a decent work out in the gym

on the other hand im no big unit but as far as power to weight goes i score pretty damn good.
i still remember the day i out arm wrestled my dad who tips (or did tip) at over 100kgs

sorry but balancing on top plates is no place for 110kg guys. unloading trucks at 110kgs is different. one of the blokes that has approached me actually used to deliver hire equipment so he was used to a work out.
the thing is though once he got above 2 rungs on a ladder he realised how agile he wasnt.

ive also worked with big guys that play footy and claim “i can bench this” and “i can bench that” but huff and puff and groan trying to keep up with me on the end of a beam let alone trying to climb a ladder with it.
the thing is its all well and good to bench 150kgs or what ever but using it in a practical situation is another story.

ive also had a cabinet maker tell me of a time they had a hot shot footy player working with them with the i can bench this attitude but struggled to manouver a carcus through a living room and over furniture etc

for the record im just under 6ft and BM, i dont need a gym to keep me fit. my daily lifestyle ensures i dont put on weight
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

GEEPERS…Survival of the Fattest chat here!

Agree with you Andrew M. I can say I have had many when did karate for 4.5yrs huge come in and they all get tired and have no stamina. It is the ticker and I have heaps and with physical stuff when did it used to run rings around all. Most are like some on here…BM AND ANDREW M YOU KNOW WHO – THEY ARE FULL OF TALK AND HOPELESS ON THE WALK!

RICHO – mate is cool and sorry you took umbrage at me. But mate 103kgs and 5ft 6in makes you a tad overweight. Go for walks and you dont need to go to Gym! The new Holden coupe is hot as! I will call a spade a spade (unlike TP) and not support one car maker. Like I rate this coupe above Fords offerings, the i30 Hyundai diesel above Toyota equivalent, etc. I like the Falcons but think it may count a tad against them for headlights and tailights pretty much as last model! It will still sell well. Holden on the other hand….supercar mayhem as what next a 11litre 525kw motor?
Bavarian Missile

hahaha.NM.

Sounds more like a I’m fitter than you blog!

Andrew wow you finally told me something I didn’t have to guess!

Gym does help more in keeping you focused than doing it by your self,plus its a great catch up on the gossip when you doing Cardio. I know what your saying about weight lifting Andrew but that depends on how many reps they do…better to do smaller weights and more reps than large weights and less reps.

Mind you saying that Im one of the strongest females at GYM,no Im not built like Arny but have been doing GYM for 20 years. I can leg press 200 kilos so I don’t think Wheelnut will be leg wrestling me ,or will he? hahaha

Muscle weighs 4 times as much as fat and no Im not telling you what I weigh……
Andrew M

^^^^^^^^^^^
162kg????????
Andrew M

doesnt matter what you say, the scales are just marketing hype (just ask TP about that when you tell him something he doesnt want to hear) ha ha ha
Duck

Looks great! Big pat on the back by HOLDEN!
Love the recaro seats and the new rear lights, side exhausht pipes and the new speedometer
Duck

Vey impresed Holden!
Duck

^^^^Meant Very Impresed!
Andrew M

can i ask what actually seals the gap between the front door window/glass and the rear glass?
Duck

^^^^^^Nothing!
Bavarian Missile

hahaha 162 kg….thats a bit mean.Haven’t you seen the pic of me? I wouldn’t fit in the M3 at that weight.

Had lunch with Golfschwein during the week…..and although we were very naughty with what we had,I think he can say Im not 162 kgs. Not to mention I doubt Cobra045 would let me drive his new GT 500 when it turns up,let alone want me in a Bikini whilst doing it……

You are a stir……
Oz.

Old hard tops had a seal on the back glass
Andrew M

well it cant be a 5mm gap can it.

something has to seal it to keep bugs, rain and spiders out

also something to lessen the wind noise too
Andrew M

BM,
where is your proof you are not 162kgs???
its all marketing hype i tell you!!!! ha ha ha
Andrew M

thats what i thought it would have OZ but the pics are hard to make out
Wheelnut

Duck there would have to be some kind of polymmer or plastic weather seal inbetween the two windows otherwise not only would water get in when you washed it but with two panes of fine auto glass rubbing against one another they would shudder and break.. particularly when the door is slammed shut

My guess is theres a plastic moulding which gradually retracts/appears as the window goes up or down it would have to have an “I cross section inorder to slide along the leading edges of both windows.
Bavarian Missile

Ask Golfschwein and Cobra045 they have met me….not to mention Wheelnut holding some slinky and black for me when Im over there,not something 162kgs will fit into I give you the TIP…..hahaha

See if you read your email you would know what I look like!

Marketing Hype…Im not on the market anymore.
Bavarian Missile

XA is pillar-less when the windows are down…..are the windows down in this?
Oz.

Bavarian Missile, the Falcon hard tops had a seal on the back window glass didn’t they? So I think this would be like that too
Wheelnut

In the photos of the Coupe at the actual Motorshow the windows are down and there is nothing in sight yet

But in Holdens Official Image Gallery which was taken at Lang Lang – the the windows are up and there is a thin plastic moulded strip in between the two windows
Bavarian Missile

Should have asked you first babe I guess.

Yep OZ they are,dont seal to well but!

Lets hope Holden have adapted BMWs window closing mechanism.

Wont get wind whistles then!
Oz.

Thought so, I know the old Pontiac hardtops were like that too.

This is just a concept, so maybe they didn’t need seals.
Minnow

the previous monaro looked so much better from behind one of the best looking coupe rear ends, this looks like a fat audi TT from behind, which isnt the prettiest rear end. Its just way too high and chunky, why not just put a HSV rear end on it? that would look nice. I dont think it looks as nice as the VT coupe. This to me is vulgar, the VT coupe was wow, this is more like… Ohh that needs improving. The side looks great though, fix the front and rear and they may be onto something.
Kenzo

it is interesting how not excited i am about this car. even though it looks good, will go quick and handle well.
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

Side on hot and sweet as…but need complete rejig on front lights and rear tailights need to change!
Andrew M

does any one else find it odd that there is a horizontal join in the rear QTR panel half way up the guards?
Wheelnut

I noticed that to Andrew However I’d say the join is there because it looks like the rear 1/4 panel; C pillar roof panel and A pillar is a one piece jobby [like the ute] and that if the panel went all the way to the door sill the tooling costs would be more expensive.

The only thing that makes it less obvious is the fact that the horizontal join is at the same level as the join for the rear bumper which then shoots up to meet the tail lights.

Yet this is a prototype and should the car make it into production I’d say the designers will be told to change it
Phill

Another concept car from holden that won’t go into production.Like Effigy,Torana,HRT427 Its just been built to take some of Fords thunder on there new model release.Whats next GTS-R epica maybe rally pac Viva turbo hybred or paris to dakar captiva.I will admit it does look good better than plain jane monaro
Wheelnut

Phill – The Torana is almost a certainty to make it into production as GN CEO Bob Lutz is pushing for it to become the New Pontiac G6.
Holden is currently doing further development on the TT-36 Concept Car and it’s expected to be released by 2010-12

As for the Coupe 60 – The development of a RWD V8 Coupe has been put on ice whilst GM prepares for the release of the Camaro.. that’s not to say that the Monaro is dead in the water.. particularly given Bob Lutz’s [and the USAs]love of our cars
golfschwein

I’m with Minnow, I saw an Audi influence at the rear of the car, especially the tail lights.

Monaros were pillarless from 68 to 76, as were Charger, Valiant and Falcon Coupes. BMW and Mercedes benz are still doing it. Gawd, even the Corolla Coupe was pillarless, although I remember even as a kid, I got the shock of my life to see the body flex when I closed the door.

I’ve been looking at this car for a few days now…overall, it’s a sensation. But I can imagine a production version looking better, funnily enough. On this car, the rear guards look overfilled by the wheel and tyre combo, seemingly giving the wheels no room to move up and down. Also, a production version will be sure to lose the VE’s BA-style front end, as it will surely coincide with a major face lift of the Commodore that will hopefully give it a more unique identity.
http://. Naughtyius Maximus

GOLFSCWEIN…a unique separate identity from rest of Commodore range needed as this car is amazing. They gotta change the back lights too and make the front maybe like the XR series with droppy bottoms on lights and change the grille to G8 Pontiac or similar. Will sell massively then as HOT AS CAN GET?
Phill

Wheelnut-one of the three i mentioned will go into production of the others effigy was built to be a show car and the 427 was built to kill off nations cup racing that was starting to take off and could have thretion V8 supercars future.where the rules were relaked to allow the 427 into the series. The over seas competitors seen it was unfair (as only seven where made)this stopped them coming and that inturn killed the 24hr bathurst.If holden do make the torana,good someone has to make a performance rwd midsize car that the average wage erna can afford.And who ever does will almost have that market to themsleves.I don’t mean to bash holdens all the time i just should close my one blue eye sometimes
No Name

I can assure you all that I’ve not been hanging out with Harry Pot Head in Afgahnistan. I have never had the desire to become a military target, I’ll stick to qunatity surveying…Yawn

bob marley

suck my left nut

No Name

Oh god someones moved all the keys on my keyoard….
jamison

looks very aggressive and muscular, no surprises it impresses a lot back home, in Oz.

The pillar less design looks interesting, but I doubt if it ever makes production it’ll remain that way, they can re-design the C pillar, but it’ll affect rear/side view.

I just want to say, a production car will never be like this… ever… a track car or a race specific, good chance..

also, to BM, yes holden benchmarks BMW… the looks… the styling…. I really doubt they’ll be bench marking parts quality, refinement, accuracy, technology etc…

Lexus is directly set to compete with the euros and priced closely to them, the benchmarking isnt just based on “looks” as Holden did with their current model…

HUGE difference… like different library even. Its like saying the SW20 MR2s were bench marked against Ferraris, as it was influenced by Pinnanfarina (spelling lol sorry)… see its completely WRONG. Looks and styling.. maybe even setup… but no way near the engineering nor parts quality…. which is what you pay for (well most of the retail price anyways)
astroturf

having spent over 1 hour of my life watching this car circle in melbourne, i am once again thoroughly impressed at what we can do in oz…

the coupe60 SHOULD be made, however PROBABLY WONT (in Aus at least)

The camaro (based on the same architect) fills the market this car sits in. shame because they could easily sell both but GM of course will realise that these cannot sit side by side in the market.

other problems for this car’s future are production numbers. with holden working at capacity and the green light oin US ute exports as well as the wagon which will be seriously popular in Oz (my local dealer has 10 pre-orders already) there will not be space for any more production.

if i ran holden i’d have bought the mitsubishi plant and tooled it for long wheel base models and the shorter torana model, therefore allowing standard wheel base model production to increase and allowing the coupe60 to be built on a torana platform instead.

anyway, even if this car never makes production, the important bits on it that will make production are a form of the rear lights which were just stunning (LEDs) – watch for them on sport models. and also the V8… my tip is that secretly holden are releasing basiclly this engine on the series 2 VE – giving them a trump card on the falcon (which has amongst the worst quality fitout at the show – bits of flapping plastic and loose doorpanels were disappointing).

look for CYLINDER SHUTDOWN which is on the US export engine and i believe will be on series 2 release (at same time as wagon release)
http://www.myblogspan.com/ George

That looks great!
Oh, its really wonderful!
Bruce

I’ve seen it, I touched it, I’ve drooled over it, Awesome car,
Holden Please Build it.
Holden please build the Torana as well
Duck

^^^^Hey! Bruce! Holden are building the torana from 2010, i think. But i dont know about the coupe 60. It will probaly stay as one awesome concept made by HOLDEN.
BF

Not bad, sweet, i currently drive a VE 2006 Calais 6.0L, sold my Fords not long ago,

though i am waitin for a new 6.8Litre Ford V10 GT-HO till early 2010.

keep on thinking, 470kW/800Nm , cant wait.
Ford G Series kicks butt

This is just a dressed up GM VE Holden, nothing 2 exciting here, good OLD Olden trying to steal Fords thunder….
Duck

Ford G Series kicks butt, Im sorry to say but the Ford G Series wont kick Holdens WM Series. No way!