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		<title>By: Al Juraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Juraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beg to reopen this topic being one of the less fortunate not to taste the glory of derestricted speed driving in Australia. It&#039;s been a year since this was established, and hardly any improvement in road safety. German autobahns are a great example. Speed limits or none, accidents are the same.

There should simply be a super licence that allow people to drive as fast as they can without endangering lives. Likewise, the cars should qualify to be safe in being driven at high speeds, with reliable brakes and tyres as starters. This would certainly come in handy for long highway drives. Drivers get less sleepy without speed limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to reopen this topic being one of the less fortunate not to taste the glory of derestricted speed driving in Australia. It&#8217;s been a year since this was established, and hardly any improvement in road safety. German autobahns are a great example. Speed limits or none, accidents are the same.</p>
<p>There should simply be a super licence that allow people to drive as fast as they can without endangering lives. Likewise, the cars should qualify to be safe in being driven at high speeds, with reliable brakes and tyres as starters. This would certainly come in handy for long highway drives. Drivers get less sleepy without speed limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Julien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a pitty! I m slightly disappointed to read that NT changed what I really appreciated when travelling in Australia. In deed, we travelled in 2006 with my grilfriend from Perth up to Darwin and than down to the Alice and finally back to Perth.

It was so great this feeling of freedom up there!!! I was hopping to come one day and realise what my &quot;car magazine&quot; did : 300 km/h on the Stuwart highway with a 911 Turbo(magazine is called Sport Auto - a french one).

Unfortunately from now on the only place in the world not to have speeding will be Germany....

As a Swiss it&#039;s not so far for me, but much less exciting than Australia.

What a hell is happing? Why do all these politicians in this world have just one thinking : &quot;cutting liberty&quot;?

It&#039;s sad....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a pitty! I m slightly disappointed to read that NT changed what I really appreciated when travelling in Australia. In deed, we travelled in 2006 with my grilfriend from Perth up to Darwin and than down to the Alice and finally back to Perth.</p>
<p>It was so great this feeling of freedom up there!!! I was hopping to come one day and realise what my &#8220;car magazine&#8221; did : 300 km/h on the Stuwart highway with a 911 Turbo(magazine is called Sport Auto &#8211; a french one).</p>
<p>Unfortunately from now on the only place in the world not to have speeding will be Germany&#8230;.</p>
<p>As a Swiss it&#8217;s not so far for me, but much less exciting than Australia.</p>
<p>What a hell is happing? Why do all these politicians in this world have just one thinking : &#8220;cutting liberty&#8221;?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Top End BMW Driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top End BMW Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The road toll for the Northern Territory for 2007 to 30 June is 23.

For the same period last year the road toll was 16.

Even with a traffic branch the road toll is now higher! 

Open limits never were a problem, but obviously now 130k is turning out to be a killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The road toll for the Northern Territory for 2007 to 30 June is 23.</p>
<p>For the same period last year the road toll was 16.</p>
<p>Even with a traffic branch the road toll is now higher! </p>
<p>Open limits never were a problem, but obviously now 130k is turning out to be a killer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy H. Pritchard, (Mot Adv-NSW)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy H. Pritchard, (Mot Adv-NSW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The removal of speed derestriction in favour of a 130km/h speed restriction from NT&#039;s &#039;key highways&#039; was a mistake.  It needs to be reinstated, even if as I predict, that takes a year or two to implement once again, certainly after the next NT election should NT Libs gain power.

The FEDS *must* stay away from state and territory speed limit and derestriction setting, their capability instead limited to &#039;AS1742.4 of 1999 - signage and interpretation/placement&#039;.  

The jurisdictions must maintain the right to set key restriction/de-restriction allowances without federal monetary pressure.

The adoption to all NT rural roads - not being key highways, &#039;a default 110km/h&#039;, is simply a too high speed restriction,- having dear people - regard the poor road quality that the particular limit seeks to serve.  We are talking the poorest quality tracks and roads here.  110km/h is afterall a speed-limit that applies to modern freeway categories dotted around the states!  

The &#039;rural default&#039; held in ARR&#039;s therefore, really needs to be &#039;conservative&#039;, in the order 80km/h, AND remembering, naturally, that certain stretches within it CAN be &#039;signposted&#039; with higher allowances as warranted.

The removal of (//) speed derestriction from the key highways can only lead to a greater amount of inattention, fatigue, carelessness and poor &#039;on-road&#039; behaviour.  Treat people poorly with &#039;low expectation&#039;, and in effect bunching them up, (even in the NT) expect then poor driving in return!

Speed derestriction; applied to the nations safest lengths of highways will not negatively impact overall network safety, and certainly instills in the road user,- a sense of much greater responsibility for their actions.  Folk will feel a need to ensure their vehicle is fitted with good equipment and tyres, afterall, its in their best interest to do so under speed derestriction.  

A speed-limit on the other hand, removes or reduces any such requirement or &#039;interest&#039; - in bettering oneself and vehicle, and the result will be an increase in certain factoral types of crash.

We will always have fools that go out and drive at high-end triple digit speeds that crash, speed limit or not, it is a realityalready, and really they represent the bottom 2% of all road users.  Most folk on the other hand are okay, and respond well to encouragement and allowances.

The Commonwealth needs to give the Australian motorists&#039; ALL the &quot;TOOL OF THE TRADE&quot; afforded to vehicle owners in other markets, example of these items , mandatory in EU and China are; a &quot;hazard warning triangle&quot; to UN Spec, a &quot;high visibility safety vest/shirt&quot; that *must* be worn at all vehicle breakdown and crash scenes.  SOME EU locales insist on a single fire extinguisher and first aid kit.

How serious are we????  I&#039;d argue &#039;hardly&#039;.

FURTHER, the Commonwealth really should take steps to mandate for ADR vehicle categories; MA, MB and MC (Cars, vans 4WD&#039;s) &quot;ADR52&quot;, the dreaded &#039;rear fog lamp&#039; used to help other drivers in seeing your vehicle much sooner in heavy fog, rain-storms, snowfalls, dust-storms and in bushfire smoke conditions.  

ADR52 dear reader is restricted in Australia as &#039;optional fitment&#039; owing Part 8.5.1 of ADR13, yet - the UN Convention on the matter now attempts to mandate it, we sadly continue opt out, allowaing virtually &#039;no protection&#039; under those lousy visibility conditons. 

NEGLIGENT!

I reckon we are worth it.  Mandate the aforesaid item and let police enforce the correct use of the lamp, as outlined by ARR217, AND as stated already in ALL the nations respective &#039;driver manuals&#039;.

AUSTRALIA CAN, AND NEEDS TO DO MUCH BETTER.  Introducing lower and lower speed limits to our highest standard roads is not conducive to road safety and only impacts national productivity in the negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The removal of speed derestriction in favour of a 130km/h speed restriction from NT&#8217;s &#8216;key highways&#8217; was a mistake.  It needs to be reinstated, even if as I predict, that takes a year or two to implement once again, certainly after the next NT election should NT Libs gain power.</p>
<p>The FEDS *must* stay away from state and territory speed limit and derestriction setting, their capability instead limited to &#8216;AS1742.4 of 1999 &#8211; signage and interpretation/placement&#8217;.  </p>
<p>The jurisdictions must maintain the right to set key restriction/de-restriction allowances without federal monetary pressure.</p>
<p>The adoption to all NT rural roads &#8211; not being key highways, &#8216;a default 110km/h&#8217;, is simply a too high speed restriction,- having dear people &#8211; regard the poor road quality that the particular limit seeks to serve.  We are talking the poorest quality tracks and roads here.  110km/h is afterall a speed-limit that applies to modern freeway categories dotted around the states!  </p>
<p>The &#8216;rural default&#8217; held in ARR&#8217;s therefore, really needs to be &#8216;conservative&#8217;, in the order 80km/h, AND remembering, naturally, that certain stretches within it CAN be &#8217;signposted&#8217; with higher allowances as warranted.</p>
<p>The removal of (//) speed derestriction from the key highways can only lead to a greater amount of inattention, fatigue, carelessness and poor &#8216;on-road&#8217; behaviour.  Treat people poorly with &#8216;low expectation&#8217;, and in effect bunching them up, (even in the NT) expect then poor driving in return!</p>
<p>Speed derestriction; applied to the nations safest lengths of highways will not negatively impact overall network safety, and certainly instills in the road user,- a sense of much greater responsibility for their actions.  Folk will feel a need to ensure their vehicle is fitted with good equipment and tyres, afterall, its in their best interest to do so under speed derestriction.  </p>
<p>A speed-limit on the other hand, removes or reduces any such requirement or &#8216;interest&#8217; &#8211; in bettering oneself and vehicle, and the result will be an increase in certain factoral types of crash.</p>
<p>We will always have fools that go out and drive at high-end triple digit speeds that crash, speed limit or not, it is a realityalready, and really they represent the bottom 2% of all road users.  Most folk on the other hand are okay, and respond well to encouragement and allowances.</p>
<p>The Commonwealth needs to give the Australian motorists&#8217; ALL the &#8220;TOOL OF THE TRADE&#8221; afforded to vehicle owners in other markets, example of these items , mandatory in EU and China are; a &#8220;hazard warning triangle&#8221; to UN Spec, a &#8220;high visibility safety vest/shirt&#8221; that *must* be worn at all vehicle breakdown and crash scenes.  SOME EU locales insist on a single fire extinguisher and first aid kit.</p>
<p>How serious are we????  I&#8217;d argue &#8216;hardly&#8217;.</p>
<p>FURTHER, the Commonwealth really should take steps to mandate for ADR vehicle categories; MA, MB and MC (Cars, vans 4WD&#8217;s) &#8220;ADR52&#8243;, the dreaded &#8216;rear fog lamp&#8217; used to help other drivers in seeing your vehicle much sooner in heavy fog, rain-storms, snowfalls, dust-storms and in bushfire smoke conditions.  </p>
<p>ADR52 dear reader is restricted in Australia as &#8216;optional fitment&#8217; owing Part 8.5.1 of ADR13, yet &#8211; the UN Convention on the matter now attempts to mandate it, we sadly continue opt out, allowaing virtually &#8216;no protection&#8217; under those lousy visibility conditons. </p>
<p>NEGLIGENT!</p>
<p>I reckon we are worth it.  Mandate the aforesaid item and let police enforce the correct use of the lamp, as outlined by ARR217, AND as stated already in ALL the nations respective &#8216;driver manuals&#8217;.</p>
<p>AUSTRALIA CAN, AND NEEDS TO DO MUCH BETTER.  Introducing lower and lower speed limits to our highest standard roads is not conducive to road safety and only impacts national productivity in the negative.</p>
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		<title>By: BMW-E46</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMW-E46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.keepntlimitfree.org have revealed the facts of how we got to where we are today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.keepntlimitfree.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.keepntlimitfree.org</a> have revealed the facts of how we got to where we are today!</p>
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		<title>By: GSXR-600</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1059/northern-territory-indtroduces-speed-limits/comment-page-1/#comment-13340</link>
		<dc:creator>GSXR-600</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The open limits will be reinstated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The open limits will be reinstated.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lies through clever statistics.  There must be a government department dedicated to manipulating data to support their decision.

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lies through clever statistics.  There must be a government department dedicated to manipulating data to support their decision.</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Eve Pattel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve Pattel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sack Claire Martin and Chris Burns thats what i say. Political suicide to touch the open speed limit. Northern territorians have taken this very personal indeed. This is just revenue chasing as per usual. Help us fight the fight vote Bring Back the Open Speed Limit. Vote no to 130km and yes to open speed limit. The death toll has nothing to do with speeding whatsoever. All lies Claire all lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sack Claire Martin and Chris Burns thats what i say. Political suicide to touch the open speed limit. Northern territorians have taken this very personal indeed. This is just revenue chasing as per usual. Help us fight the fight vote Bring Back the Open Speed Limit. Vote no to 130km and yes to open speed limit. The death toll has nothing to do with speeding whatsoever. All lies Claire all lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visited Darwin in November and hired a Commodore. Drove down to Adelaide River and back at 160+kph. I might add I am well qualified to drive at that speed having held an international racing licence that entitled me to drive Formula 1 in any country in the world: a licence that I was tested for on three different race tracks. What a great drive I had in the N.T. In N.S.W. they would have locked me up and thrown away the key (if they could have caught me). Northern Territorians, continue to fight back against these invasions on liberty. Liberty is being taken from us by stealth, bit by bit. Don&#039;t let it happen. Live free or die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited Darwin in November and hired a Commodore. Drove down to Adelaide River and back at 160+kph. I might add I am well qualified to drive at that speed having held an international racing licence that entitled me to drive Formula 1 in any country in the world: a licence that I was tested for on three different race tracks. What a great drive I had in the N.T. In N.S.W. they would have locked me up and thrown away the key (if they could have caught me). Northern Territorians, continue to fight back against these invasions on liberty. Liberty is being taken from us by stealth, bit by bit. Don&#8217;t let it happen. Live free or die.</p>
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