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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom The Tool you can tell you are not Tom the Ford Hater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom The Tool you can tell you are not Tom the Ford Hater.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come I only saw this on the news today? It happened some time last year and it was weeks upon weeks ago when this video was recovered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come I only saw this on the news today? It happened some time last year and it was weeks upon weeks ago when this video was recovered?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom the tool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom the tool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry for being a fool i look back at what i wrote was completely stupid and yes holdenwoo is as very bit american as ford is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry for being a fool i look back at what i wrote was completely stupid and yes holdenwoo is as very bit american as ford is.</p>
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		<title>By: goog</title>
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		<dc:creator>goog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a good race, and was good to see bjr get on the podium. first racing meeting in a holden and got 3rd and 13. pretty gud work. and hrt will be back next round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a good race, and was good to see bjr get on the podium. first racing meeting in a holden and got 3rd and 13. pretty gud work. and hrt will be back next round.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen, i agree with you mate.

1. JC deserved to win both races as all bar the session after the safety car he was easily the fastest out there.

2. JC did more than his fair share of barging through the field too so he cant whinge

3. frosty also squeezed CL up on the curb rather than giving him racing room.

4. if JC had thought about it a little more he would have stayed on the racing line and tried to cross back on lowndes.

5. yep the worst decision was to end Steve Johnsons good run by that terrible penalty for overlapping.

dont forget it was at the very same track last year where i think it may have been Mcconville (i think) was penalised for punting the Jack daniels commodore even though the LPR machine had stalled just around the blind corner and even the victim had pleaded that no penalty should be applied.

i think they need to issue such penalties with an open mind and actually consider feed back from teams.
i mean whats wrong with once both teams state their case and the standards observer saying &quot;well sorry i got it wrong&quot;

oh and in summary it wasnt only CL that was rubbing paint. just because it was a battle for 2nd and he is a popular man people seem to want to drill him.
what about the biff and barge from the HSV/DT guys and Paul morris? and also JC himself. and what about the poor welcoming Andrew Thompson got to the category?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen, i agree with you mate.</p>
<p>1. JC deserved to win both races as all bar the session after the safety car he was easily the fastest out there.</p>
<p>2. JC did more than his fair share of barging through the field too so he cant whinge</p>
<p>3. frosty also squeezed CL up on the curb rather than giving him racing room.</p>
<p>4. if JC had thought about it a little more he would have stayed on the racing line and tried to cross back on lowndes.</p>
<p>5. yep the worst decision was to end Steve Johnsons good run by that terrible penalty for overlapping.</p>
<p>dont forget it was at the very same track last year where i think it may have been Mcconville (i think) was penalised for punting the Jack daniels commodore even though the LPR machine had stalled just around the blind corner and even the victim had pleaded that no penalty should be applied.</p>
<p>i think they need to issue such penalties with an open mind and actually consider feed back from teams.<br />
i mean whats wrong with once both teams state their case and the standards observer saying &#8220;well sorry i got it wrong&#8221;</p>
<p>oh and in summary it wasnt only CL that was rubbing paint. just because it was a battle for 2nd and he is a popular man people seem to want to drill him.<br />
what about the biff and barge from the HSV/DT guys and Paul morris? and also JC himself. and what about the poor welcoming Andrew Thompson got to the category?</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know Jason? You may be right but to my knowledge the mapping of the V8 Supercar ECU is severly limited compared to what you used to be able to do. I know you can do this with a freer ECU but I thought the V8 ECU was controlled</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know Jason? You may be right but to my knowledge the mapping of the V8 Supercar ECU is severly limited compared to what you used to be able to do. I know you can do this with a freer ECU but I thought the V8 ECU was controlled</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, Glen you don&#039;t have a clue what your talking about mate. The ECU is completely reprogrammable, all the engineer has to do is run a series of spark cuts to drop cylinders, easy as mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, Glen you don&#8217;t have a clue what your talking about mate. The ECU is completely reprogrammable, all the engineer has to do is run a series of spark cuts to drop cylinders, easy as mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on both CL &amp; JC for racing hard. Watch european touring car series and this sort of racing is the norm. CL&#039;s pass on Frosty was partly Frost&#039;s fault for squeezing Lowndes onto the dirty line then onto the curb. Same with Holdsworth. JC changed lines pretty late b4 the major crash which is not allowed (you can only change direction once and he took the outside line then when CL went for the inside he chopped him so lowndes was committed and just touched him) then at the contact down the road it was a very similar clash that happened between Ambrose &amp; Murph at Bathurst a couple of years ago. JC should of just backed off on the kink, Lowndes was past him and had to turn in. Now Wingnut&#039;s passes on FPR on Saturday were touch &amp; go. But the pass on Richo was more controversial than on Frosty but I think he was passed the B-pillar both times. I think JC should of maybe got pinged for the pass on murph but I think murph played his own part in cutting JC off thats why I think they let JC off.

JC should of won the round cos he obviously had the fastest car on the weekend but after that safety car he was obviously much slower hence why Lowndes made the move. But the end result I think cant be called anything but a racing incident. Its the 1st round back and everyone is keen to start the year well, even more so with HRT struggling and not scoreing many points. Lets hope the action isn&#039;t stifled by knee jerk reactions.

BTW I&#039;m no way a Lowndes supporter but support anyone driving a blue oval so I&#039;m just saying how I saw the incidents. I was more pissed off at the drive through for Junior for over lapping, Coulthard obviously had a problem. Which was a shame cos Coulthard was doing an amazing job to have the PCR car in 5th on its own merit. Good on Cam Mc and BJR, too bad it was with Holden but they deserve results and congrats to Shane Van Gisbergan on an excellent 5th, he is a definate star of the future.

Now back on topic, with the control ECU&#039;s on the V8&#039;s you can&#039;t customise the mapping that much to be able to do that so I think JC did that all himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on both CL &amp; JC for racing hard. Watch european touring car series and this sort of racing is the norm. CL&#8217;s pass on Frosty was partly Frost&#8217;s fault for squeezing Lowndes onto the dirty line then onto the curb. Same with Holdsworth. JC changed lines pretty late b4 the major crash which is not allowed (you can only change direction once and he took the outside line then when CL went for the inside he chopped him so lowndes was committed and just touched him) then at the contact down the road it was a very similar clash that happened between Ambrose &amp; Murph at Bathurst a couple of years ago. JC should of just backed off on the kink, Lowndes was past him and had to turn in. Now Wingnut&#8217;s passes on FPR on Saturday were touch &amp; go. But the pass on Richo was more controversial than on Frosty but I think he was passed the B-pillar both times. I think JC should of maybe got pinged for the pass on murph but I think murph played his own part in cutting JC off thats why I think they let JC off.</p>
<p>JC should of won the round cos he obviously had the fastest car on the weekend but after that safety car he was obviously much slower hence why Lowndes made the move. But the end result I think cant be called anything but a racing incident. Its the 1st round back and everyone is keen to start the year well, even more so with HRT struggling and not scoreing many points. Lets hope the action isn&#8217;t stifled by knee jerk reactions.</p>
<p>BTW I&#8217;m no way a Lowndes supporter but support anyone driving a blue oval so I&#8217;m just saying how I saw the incidents. I was more pissed off at the drive through for Junior for over lapping, Coulthard obviously had a problem. Which was a shame cos Coulthard was doing an amazing job to have the PCR car in 5th on its own merit. Good on Cam Mc and BJR, too bad it was with Holden but they deserve results and congrats to Shane Van Gisbergan on an excellent 5th, he is a definate star of the future.</p>
<p>Now back on topic, with the control ECU&#8217;s on the V8&#8217;s you can&#8217;t customise the mapping that much to be able to do that so I think JC did that all himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Watto_Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watto_Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does sound a little too perfect. Cool tho.</description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, getting back on topic...

If anyone is interested they played waltzing matilda exactly the same way F1 played their tune. The song is software mapped by the engineers, James Courtney sits in the car at full throttle then the software mapping drops cylinders to get the different notes. 

Have a listen about half way through on one of the low notes...the car has dropped at least 4 cylinders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, getting back on topic&#8230;</p>
<p>If anyone is interested they played waltzing matilda exactly the same way F1 played their tune. The song is software mapped by the engineers, James Courtney sits in the car at full throttle then the software mapping drops cylinders to get the different notes. </p>
<p>Have a listen about half way through on one of the low notes&#8230;the car has dropped at least 4 cylinders.</p>
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		<title>By: Watto_Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watto_Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richo isn&#039;t pretending to be Steve Richards unlike you pretending to be CL mate. He&#039;s been around this forum for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richo isn&#8217;t pretending to be Steve Richards unlike you pretending to be CL mate. He&#8217;s been around this forum for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but I still think Richo is right,and if Lowndes still had a car at that time to continue in he would have got a drive through for cutting James off.

Lowndes cut in front of James,maybe James was slower but Craig shouldn&#039;t have been so aggressive,he had already been lucky with Coldbum letting him through....

I do agree though Andrew with the fact that James was equally as aggressive during the race. He had been real lucky up till that,whats the go with the Ford drivers....their obviously frustrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but I still think Richo is right,and if Lowndes still had a car at that time to continue in he would have got a drive through for cutting James off.</p>
<p>Lowndes cut in front of James,maybe James was slower but Craig shouldn&#8217;t have been so aggressive,he had already been lucky with Coldbum letting him through&#8230;.</p>
<p>I do agree though Andrew with the fact that James was equally as aggressive during the race. He had been real lucky up till that,whats the go with the Ford drivers&#8230;.their obviously frustrated.</p>
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		<title>By: CRAIG LOWNDES</title>
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		<dc:creator>CRAIG LOWNDES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think richo had better watch his mouth, my god you insult me what a loser,anyway one person cant affect my chances of getting most liked tittle.Craig Lowndes 888.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think richo had better watch his mouth, my god you insult me what a loser,anyway one person cant affect my chances of getting most liked tittle.Craig Lowndes 888.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CRAIG LOWNDES! Go to FPR.com.au, they have a news story on the main page with a furious title in upper-case letters about your driving today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey CRAIG LOWNDES! Go to FPR.com.au, they have a news story on the main page with a furious title in upper-case letters about your driving today!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>settle down craig no need to insult the guy geez.

u better watch your mouth or you wont be winning the most liked title again this year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>settle down craig no need to insult the guy geez.</p>
<p>u better watch your mouth or you wont be winning the most liked title again this year</p>
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		<title>By: CRAIG LOWNDES</title>
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		<dc:creator>CRAIG LOWNDES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richo imposter,get a life mate i did loser if you were here right now id punch you you sound like a kid who sits on mummys computer and cant accept this is craig Lowndes talkin to your 16 year old sorry ass.lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richo imposter,get a life mate i did loser if you were here right now id punch you you sound like a kid who sits on mummys computer and cant accept this is craig Lowndes talkin to your 16 year old sorry ass.lol</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mate i did turn it up when they were talking about james&#039;s lost lap time because i obviously heard what the difference was and you didnt
it was more than a few tenths.

on the lap before the incident it was said that courtney was 1 sec slower</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mate i did turn it up when they were talking about james&#8217;s lost lap time because i obviously heard what the difference was and you didnt<br />
it was more than a few tenths.</p>
<p>on the lap before the incident it was said that courtney was 1 sec slower</p>
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		<title>By: CRAIG LOWNDES</title>
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		<dc:creator>CRAIG LOWNDES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richo,thats not the real richo because hes staying in the same hotel as me and iv got a laptop and he dont,mate you sound like a wanker and yes i do go on forums time to time.Im in a very good mood, dont spoil the moment with your comments.Cheers Craig Lowndes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richo,thats not the real richo because hes staying in the same hotel as me and iv got a laptop and he dont,mate you sound like a wanker and yes i do go on forums time to time.Im in a very good mood, dont spoil the moment with your comments.Cheers Craig Lowndes.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sir James&quot; cant whinge either as he made plenty of &quot;im coming through&quot; moves too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sir James&#8221; cant whinge either as he made plenty of &#8220;im coming through&#8221; moves too</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>turn it up andrew he wasnt that much slower, there was a few tenths in it thats all. Whincup was only half a second up the road at the time, so if he was 1-1.5 seconds a lap slower then old whincup in the same car as lowndes must have been traveling pretty darn slowly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>turn it up andrew he wasnt that much slower, there was a few tenths in it thats all. Whincup was only half a second up the road at the time, so if he was 1-1.5 seconds a lap slower then old whincup in the same car as lowndes must have been traveling pretty darn slowly!</p>
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