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		<title>By: dellantre</title>
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		<dc:creator>dellantre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can i say, it&#039;s awsome.
I heard that proton installed CPS engine in neo at malaysia.
i&#039;ts sound good by improving technology of campro engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can i say, it&#8217;s awsome.<br />
I heard that proton installed CPS engine in neo at malaysia.<br />
i&#8217;ts sound good by improving technology of campro engine.</p>
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		<title>By: petter</title>
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		<dc:creator>petter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in the norwegian newspaper VG that the former world champion in rally Petter Solberg talks with the Proton factory about driving their Protons Satria S 2000 in the 2010 championship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in the norwegian newspaper VG that the former world champion in rally Petter Solberg talks with the Proton factory about driving their Protons Satria S 2000 in the 2010 championship.</p>
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		<title>By: SERTAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SERTAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have the 2001 model gti and it is an awesome car to drive. handles like its on rails.. i believe these cars need more performance example torque is needed. the 01 models are a 103k.w 164nm of torque... i believe to make the new R3 successful it should have at least an impressive 1.8T or a 2.0T .... other than that i believe people underestimate its protons... im not saying protons are best cars but top of the rang of a proton is awesome... its just like comparing a RX with a WRX easy as that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the 2001 model gti and it is an awesome car to drive. handles like its on rails.. i believe these cars need more performance example torque is needed. the 01 models are a 103k.w 164nm of torque&#8230; i believe to make the new R3 successful it should have at least an impressive 1.8T or a 2.0T &#8230;. other than that i believe people underestimate its protons&#8230; im not saying protons are best cars but top of the rang of a proton is awesome&#8230; its just like comparing a RX with a WRX easy as that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Karhunta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karhunta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gee you guys are harsh.... Do you really think the car looks so bad ? Nice call about the Subaru&#039;s they were bit&#039;s of crap. Australian built cars are not a lot better.

For the right price it&#039;s an option.


BTW, the POLO has to be one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen... $55K for an R32, ouch !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee you guys are harsh&#8230;. Do you really think the car looks so bad ? Nice call about the Subaru&#8217;s they were bit&#8217;s of crap. Australian built cars are not a lot better.</p>
<p>For the right price it&#8217;s an option.</p>
<p>BTW, the POLO has to be one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen&#8230; $55K for an R32, ouch !</p>
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		<title>By: XR2_Capri</title>
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		<dc:creator>XR2_Capri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>change the insignia as well, it sucks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>change the insignia as well, it sucks</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richo is right...the new satria is no longer based on the old mitsu platform. I&#039;ll have to say its a commendable effort from the malaysia manufacturer, showing off their connection with lotus and that the&#039;re capable of making a nice little hot (ok maybe warm) hatch. But they need to improve their interior and overall quality coz currently its just rubbish. If they can nail the quality and come up with some better looking vehicles then maybe the australian public will have less prejudice towards that Proton badge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richo is right&#8230;the new satria is no longer based on the old mitsu platform. I&#8217;ll have to say its a commendable effort from the malaysia manufacturer, showing off their connection with lotus and that the&#8217;re capable of making a nice little hot (ok maybe warm) hatch. But they need to improve their interior and overall quality coz currently its just rubbish. If they can nail the quality and come up with some better looking vehicles then maybe the australian public will have less prejudice towards that Proton badge.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamisons - i&#039;m certain Captain Mainwarning is alluding to the PREVIOUS model satria which WAS built off the old lancer stamping, and was actually little more then a re-badged version of the old lancer. However poor old captain can&#039;t keep up to date with the latest developments of the automotive world and doesn&#039;t realise that proton stoped using that old mitsu technology over 5 years ago now and that the new satria is a completely new model and has NOTHING at all in common with the old satria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamisons &#8211; i&#8217;m certain Captain Mainwarning is alluding to the PREVIOUS model satria which WAS built off the old lancer stamping, and was actually little more then a re-badged version of the old lancer. However poor old captain can&#8217;t keep up to date with the latest developments of the automotive world and doesn&#8217;t realise that proton stoped using that old mitsu technology over 5 years ago now and that the new satria is a completely new model and has NOTHING at all in common with the old satria</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain - Jamisons off on one again..questions questions question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain &#8211; Jamisons off on one again..questions questions question.</p>
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		<title>By: jamison</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain Mainwaring,

I would like to see the source of your claims about this car being produced based on 1993 Mitsubishi &quot;stamping&quot; tools.... take away maybe a couple more years from that, since tooling design and manufacturing/changes takes that long.... 

And are you saying its made entirely by stamping?. Is this your claim?. Have you access to the parts drawings and/or have inside information from the manufacturing plants or suppliers?... I&#039;m really curious. Because to claim its based on 15 year old tooling, in which would be limited to produce panels or atleast produce panels inefficiently to meet today&#039;s standards... 

I&#039;m just really curious, I&#039;m not being a pain in the butt, this is the sort of things I consider in my job.... because a 15 year old tooling??.... maybe underbody parts where the steel grades are generally ultra-high strength... hence doesnt affect side, front and rear crash tests.. and if it did, Proton definitely has a disadvantage as new tooling these days are much cheaper... well. depends on manufacturer/supplier... than the older ones... again maybe underbody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Mainwaring,</p>
<p>I would like to see the source of your claims about this car being produced based on 1993 Mitsubishi &#8220;stamping&#8221; tools&#8230;. take away maybe a couple more years from that, since tooling design and manufacturing/changes takes that long&#8230;. </p>
<p>And are you saying its made entirely by stamping?. Is this your claim?. Have you access to the parts drawings and/or have inside information from the manufacturing plants or suppliers?&#8230; I&#8217;m really curious. Because to claim its based on 15 year old tooling, in which would be limited to produce panels or atleast produce panels inefficiently to meet today&#8217;s standards&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just really curious, I&#8217;m not being a pain in the butt, this is the sort of things I consider in my job&#8230;. because a 15 year old tooling??&#8230;. maybe underbody parts where the steel grades are generally ultra-high strength&#8230; hence doesnt affect side, front and rear crash tests.. and if it did, Proton definitely has a disadvantage as new tooling these days are much cheaper&#8230; well. depends on manufacturer/supplier&#8230; than the older ones&#8230; again maybe underbody?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, this model can only be better than the last. We hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, this model can only be better than the last. We hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthonii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthonii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a proton, can&#039;t take it seriously yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a proton, can&#8217;t take it seriously yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks good and yes, Lotus will definitely have a hand in the handling department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks good and yes, Lotus will definitely have a hand in the handling department.</p>
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		<title>By: XR2_Capri</title>
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		<dc:creator>XR2_Capri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Satria might not have rowed the wheels or modern motor boat but I have driven the last of the older 1.8 models and it went great and handled well quality was not great but hey Hyundai started as a very poor quality car (see the first excels) and look now at what they produce now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Satria might not have rowed the wheels or modern motor boat but I have driven the last of the older 1.8 models and it went great and handled well quality was not great but hey Hyundai started as a very poor quality car (see the first excels) and look now at what they produce now!</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal One</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the van these guys where/are working on?

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the van these guys where/are working on?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so we&#039;ve all driven the new satria&#039;s have we? so we&#039;re all an expert on them? You know there was a time when people use to say that subaru&#039;s where horrible little peices of crap too you know, times change! I&#039;m willing to give proton a go atleast unlike some of the badge babies around here.

And Captain Mainwaring, the satria is actually an all new car, it most definetly is NOT built off the old lancer tooling. Its built off an all new platform developed my lotus no less, not that you would bother to reasearch or anything</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so we&#8217;ve all driven the new satria&#8217;s have we? so we&#8217;re all an expert on them? You know there was a time when people use to say that subaru&#8217;s where horrible little peices of crap too you know, times change! I&#8217;m willing to give proton a go atleast unlike some of the badge babies around here.</p>
<p>And Captain Mainwaring, the satria is actually an all new car, it most definetly is NOT built off the old lancer tooling. Its built off an all new platform developed my lotus no less, not that you would bother to reasearch or anything</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prejudice stems from it being from Proton (Malaysian), and associating the Satria name with something outdated and old; which the last model was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prejudice stems from it being from Proton (Malaysian), and associating the Satria name with something outdated and old; which the last model was.</p>
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		<title>By: Denied</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ceirtainly a looker dunno whats with all the prejudice. looks better then any fiat if you ask me. Perfomance maybe in doubt but time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ceirtainly a looker dunno whats with all the prejudice. looks better then any fiat if you ask me. Perfomance maybe in doubt but time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add - the Polo GTi would be a far better choice, or a Fiat 500 Abarth, or a Golf GTi, or a ..... well, anything, really :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add &#8211; the Polo GTi would be a far better choice, or a Fiat 500 Abarth, or a Golf GTi, or a &#8230;.. well, anything, really :)</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are currently 91 Proton Satria cars for sale on carsales.com.

Seems that every one ever sold is for sale.

Should tell you something.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are currently 91 Proton Satria cars for sale on carsales.com.</p>
<p>Seems that every one ever sold is for sale.</p>
<p>Should tell you something&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Mainwaring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Mainwaring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, here&#039;s the 1993 Mitsubishi Lancer 3 door hatch all over again. Yes, made from the same stamping tools. I wonder how many stars it would get in Euro NCAP? Buyers beware, it&#039;s bound to crash at least as colorfully as a HoldenWoo Barina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, here&#8217;s the 1993 Mitsubishi Lancer 3 door hatch all over again. Yes, made from the same stamping tools. I wonder how many stars it would get in Euro NCAP? Buyers beware, it&#8217;s bound to crash at least as colorfully as a HoldenWoo Barina.</p>
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