Comments on: 2008 Ford Falcon first images

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:21:29 +0000

ford has proven that they continuously offer the safest australian vehicle.
im sure there past reputation on safety must count for something when people predict that the new falcon will go to the top once again.

Duck,
dont be so bitter about the Lowndes departure from holden.
it is well documented that he left as he didnt like the way the team was heading (with walkinshaws involvement)

the next holden driver i would invite to fords camp would be Todd Kelly. he too has been shafted by holden and kicked out of the team where his efforts exceded his co-drivers. (thats good old tom at work again)
perhaps its because todd like lowndes are actually nice guys and dont fit with the other bunch of tools in holdens Walkinshaw den.
also you would be in the majority that would want to put one on lowndes’s chin as he is constantly voted “most liked”

By: golfschwein

golfschwein — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:35:20 +0000

TP is absolutely right. My own understanding varies only slightly from his, in that Toyota and Holden were required to supply a vehicle at their own expense for side-impact pole tests.

With this done, it was virtually assured that the cars would have earned 5 stars, but the makers refused. The cost of a $30,000 car seems a very small outlay to get a marketable 5 stars, in my view.

Watch them. If Ford achieves 5 stars, Holden and Toyota will come up with the goods. Competition does this.

By: Craig lowndes.

Craig lowndes. — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:25:04 +0000

I got sick of the old holden,look at ingall hes back its about money and my skills to bring ford to victory.Keep an eye on the bf falcon lets hope skaifey crashes, hes a wanker that guy.Remember last year f ckin BANG!

By: TP

TP — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:17:56 +0000

Somone has stated in the past that the Aurion and Commodore did not get 5 stars because ANCAP requires a payment to perform certain tests which are required for it… if this was true then I wouldnt be attacking the Commodore and indeed the Aurion for safety (certainly ironic though given the Falcon was behind the 8 call for half a year or so in terms of safety… no curtains, no esp)

By: Oz.

Oz. — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:14:13 +0000

Good to hear it’s not completly a carry over Bret.

By: BK

BK — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:03:34 +0000

Ford have seen where other cars have failed in safety so thats why Ford make the new falcon safer than all the others. Its the first all aussie made car with a 5 star rating. Ford have been easily poundin holdens away in engines to. 60s, 70s and 80s was dominated by “BOSS” v8 falcons and then it was the 6 cylinders turn to chew up holdens. I cant think of a holden engine or is there such thing as a Holden engine that can compete with a Ford engine. These Ford typhoons do have the highest torque output from any aussie muscle car.

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:48:45 +0000

Craig Lowndes, If you were here id punch you!
You changed from HOLDEN TO FORD YOU IDIOT WHAT WERE YOU THINKING! You were doing so well with holden. Swithing from holden to ford is like swithing to an aussie to a kiwi (no offense)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So i hope your ford crashes and burns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:48:09 +0000

Not only that Duck.. but when ANCrAP did the Tests on the VE and the Aurion.. Holden had only jsut started Production of the VE and was concentrating on getting enough cars out to the major dealers.. Therefore they only provided 4 cars.. al of which passed.

Whereas Toyota initially provided 5 cars.. 4 Passed the last one failed.. so they provided another car [at therie own expense] which failed and another and another which finally passed.

Which is why I say ANCrAp don’t test the safety of a particular Model like the Commodore or Aurion they tet the safety of a particular car of that model.

So why the VE or the Barina ANCrAp used in their tests may have failed the one in your drive might actually pass

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:45:04 +0000

Cant bloody spell correctly BK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA!!!!!!!! Sucker!!!!! ford only made a more powerful engine because the commodore has been flogging the falcon in power for now a decade, so they are the ones cathing up!!!!!!!!

By: BK

BK — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:34:32 +0000

VE is over the hill and way way behind in Fords technology. Moe safety features on Fords , faster, more power, torque and the list goes on and on. Just to good VE is oldhen now not holden.

By: Craig lowndes.

Craig lowndes. — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:35 +0000

I think the ve is ugly but has all the goodies inside,the new xt is a very good lookin car when compared to an omega.And to those who think it like a bf,get your eyes checked because this is new inside and out.Now im off to adelaide clipsal 500 to blow away russell ingall in his new holden ve.

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:26:03 +0000

BK,
Old VE what are you on?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
It was two years ago weirdo when the VE was first released!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:24:37 +0000

BK,
But ford have not confirmed it yet and it has not been tested by ANCAP yet!

By: BK

BK — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:19:43 +0000

poor old duck doesnt like to see his VE get beaten. Theres about 10,000 things better about the new falcon compared to your old VE. Maybe these new falcons will be worth 750,000 dollars one day cause they are 5 star rating. GTHO

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:49:45 +0000

Holden also said…….We acknowledge that ANCAP exists and that it has a purpose but we don’t design our cars for ANCAP”

But if the falcon does come out as a five star it will not effect sales for the VE. But if the falcon does come out as a 5 star holden with the new car the VF will make it 5 star.

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:41:39 +0000

Apparently the VE is said to be as safe as the VZ and VY

Holden’s official response was that ANCAP doesn’t represent real world conditions, and that 80 cars were crash-tested during the VE’s development in addition to more than 5,000 computer-simulated barrier tests.

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:04:27 +0000

BK,
Will you ever shut up!
DIDNT YOU HEAR ME? HOLDEN SAID BEFORE WHEN THEY RELEASED THE COMMODORE THEY SAID THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE FIVE STARS BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE FOUR! SO THE FALCON ID SAY MIGHT COME OUT AS A FOUR STAR TOO!

And guess what BK, do you know whats so sad about the current ford falcon RTV its ONLY GOT ONE AIRBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And your going on about safety!

By: BK

BK — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:53:28 +0000

For blind holden drivers who crash there cars and die in a unsafe commodore.
So how can the new Falcon still look the same and have the same features when its a eighth generation falcon. Holden people must be really blind. New falcon has more safety features than holden and toyota. FG falcon has all new sheetmetal and interior, upgraded engines and chassis and a improvement in safety structure that is expected to be the first five star NCAP safety rating for an Australian built car. Ford have to do it first because they are way ahead in technology than all the other cars

By: TP

TP — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:28:19 +0000

Doubt the Falcon will beat Aurion in straight line, less power on top of more power lost at wheels and only abit of a torque adv given extra weight (even with weight reduction still fair bit heavier… I doubt they reduced weight thouh tbh, you dont add for eg curtain airbags and other features and lose weight unless they actually designed a totally new platform, which they didnt)

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:15:06 +0000

Duck,
but up until 18mths ago the commodore platform was shyte.

oh and when you say platform what exactlly do you mean?
suspension included or just the bare steel that the panels grow upward from?