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New Falcon only hours away…

By George Skentzos |

The official unveiling of the new Ford Falcon is now just hours away, and in true CarAdvice style, we plan to bring you all the no-fuss details as quickly as possible.

2008 Ford Orion Fairmont Ghia CGI

Make sure you’re online from noon on Sunday for all the photos, press releases, photos, stories, photos and more photos.

Along with the sedan, Ford is also set to showcase the brand new Falcon ute as well as the highly anticipated FPV range.

Whilst the brand new FPV GT will be toting an HSV-topping (just) 5.4-litre V8 engine, the new F6 is without doubt the performance car to look out for, tipped to produce a restrained 300kW from its force-fed six.

After blitzing the competition as your number-one source for Orion spyshots and leading the way with our exclusive renderings, CarAdvice will be on the front line for your first look at the new Falcon.


 
  • BOB

    GO FORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    KICK HOLDENS BILLION DOLLAR A$$$$$$$$$$$ CAN’T WAIT HAHAHA

  • Frugal One

    *****PRIMO!*****

    Its like “D” day, but in this case its “F” day or is that ONION day? :-)

    Is this the LAST Falcon to ever be designed and manufactured in Oz?

    Its ALL up to the sales, they need 30,000 a year, a big ask, but who knows?

    Cheers,

    F-0

  • Frugal One

    FPV sound like a ball of muscle, but why only a 5.4L?Miles behind the 6L GMH and soon to be 6.2GMH donk…

    Will the ONION V8 have that fangled cylinder shut-down thingo?

    I want a PanelVan Falcon, still missed….

    Cheers

    F-0

  • BOB

    BEAT YOU FRUGEL ONE *****PRIMO***** FORD ARE NOT DOOMED THEY HAVE REINVESTED ANOTHER 200 MILLION DOLLARS INTO THEIR OWN MANUFACTURING PLANTS.
    Sorry mate FORD are here for good sales mean nothing, hahahahahaha Cheers,,,,,,,,,

  • Bavarian Missile

    Frugal………I thought I just went over its not all about cubes on another post………

    PVs……..hehehe……what fun! sigh…….

    Mind you now I have a daughter……me thinks thank god there gone!

    Count down has started……

  • Oz.

    I WILL BE LIKE BOB AND USE CAPS LOCK FOR THIS POST!!!!! AFTER ALMOST A YEAR OF WAITING!!!!

    WOW, EVEN THE ORION FPV RANGE THERE TOO!! IT WILL LOOK “TRIM, TAUGHT, TERRIFIC” :mrgreen: LOL!

    FRECKLE-ONE, SAY SOMETHING POSITIVE OR DONT BOTHER!

  • XL_Falcon: Trim, Taught, Terrific

    In 1962, the Falcon slogan was “trim, taught, terrific” – Hope Holdenwoo won’t mock it!

    sorry, i’m going through a Plesure overload!

  • Frugal One

    “Hours away” “Noon Sunday”

    Make your mind up please!

    Forget the embargo too, just post it here ASAP.

    BTW where in Melb. is the release?Me and Corey want to come along and crash your party! :-)

    Cheers,

    F-0

  • Oz.

    Sorry about that! I can’t wait to see the real pics of the FPV after seeing the leaked pics back in July 2007. I wonder what the so-called changes look like?

  • Oz.

    Good, Frugal One. crash the party to make it better and exiting for us, hey!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Anthony

    We have been told that our artist impressions are spot on!

  • John S

    oh the agony of the waiting is killing me!

  • Oz.

    Hey, Anthony!! Even the side flashers on the mirror are spot on?

  • dimsum

    Can’t wait. Must say one thing though, Ford did a good job hiding the shape of the car unlike the VE commo…

  • Andrew M

    Who at C/A is holding all the information?

    i assume all of the press including C/A have their articles printed and sorted already just waiting until 12 noon when they can press the submit button to show the readers. is this how they are doing it?

    i expect you will get many hits on sunday so i hope you guys dont get those odd server troubles ha ha ha

  • ChopstaR87

    THIS IS KILLING ME….
    What time on sunday is this going to be released????

    2008 FPV Typhoon performance car of the year???? lets hope…

    i think the F6 will be all about SPEED….

    THE GT will be Speed and Class mixed together….

    Wish Sunday will hurry up and get here……… this going to be a long long long long day tomorrow…. :(

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    Better see shades of class and not the arse designs Ford has in USA!

  • Watto_Cobra

    Damn, I have to do O/T on Sunday, hopefully knocking off at midday, home by 12:30. Why did I agree to work Sunday???

  • Minnow

    “Wish Sunday will hurry up and get here……… this going to be a long long long long day tomorrow…. ” hahaha! AGREE!!! ARGHH!!! hurry up sunday!!! Looks like i’ll be doing chores to help pass the time. Maybe even a little watching grass grow thanks to the sun and rain ahh the little sproutlings in the fields of dead grass… my p r e c i o u s i shall care for you… AHH DAMN!! hurry up FORD!! surprise us :(

  • Andrew M

    Watto,
    you agreed to OT on sunday because the boss came to you and said ” hey every one else wants sunday off due to some special car release”

    with out thinking much further i bet you went “yeah yeah alright im good ole Mr reliable ill do it”
    and then 30 seconds later let out an all mighty Homer Simpson “DOH!!!!”

    is that how it went?? ha ha ha

  • Oz.

    I agree it will be a L-O-N-G day :(

    AndrewM, I think you right!

  • Oz.

    Kevin Rudd will say tomorow… “Australians can all take the day off work today for the new Ford Falcon unveilling”

    Wouldn’t that be funny!

  • Watto_Cobra

    You nailed it Andrew.M. There was a very big “D’oh” shortly after :-( Yep, Mr.Reliable, like my car.

  • No Name

    Cor the hype is getting you lot. Havn’t seen this much prelaunch stuff for years. Not even Jag new XF is that eagerly awaited in Pohmland.

    Enjoy the day when it happens folks.

  • golfschwein

    Ford are being very quiet on the wagon. My bet’s this: it’ll be an Orion-like nose job on the existing AU-BF shell, in much the same way they created the EL ute by putting EL-style panels on the front of the XD-XF.

    It’s just a hunch. I won’t have a problem if I’m proven wrong.

  • Watto_Cobra

    Thanks Cupid Stunt/No Name. We most definitely shall. It’s been a LOOOOOONG time coming. I’m dying to see the specs for the F6 Typhoon, because that is the one I’m aiming for come June.

    Ford Australia Forums has some great spyshots of the Orion dash in a BF test mule. The centre screen is VERY BIG. Not I-MAX size, haha, but the biggest screen I’ve yet seen in a car.

    Golfschwein, I suspect you may be right on the wagon. It’ll suit fleet/Teltra/etc, VE Sportswagon is more sporty and less practical, and for style you would go the Territory.

    By EL ute you mean the XG, XH I take it?

    BTW, VE Sportswagon in the bathurst 12-hour, it was chewing front tyres something shocking, then it got a nose job courtesy of a wall not halfway into the race I think.

  • Watto_Cobra

    I think Oz. may have a coronary episode before Sunday, lol. As eager as the rest of us.

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    SHIVERS……………..come on Sunday.

    ALBORZ pics galore cobber from many angles and inside! Give us a overview in pics as hoping for more differentiation in models and snapshot of what has been added to each model?

    Iam working dam Sunday too! Sweet mother of moses….cant wait and hope Iam not disappointed!

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    When we hit the review here Sunday arve everyone be unemotional true and comment on look and whether much more svelte then currently as most on here are set in blue (which is good) and I just want to see it number 1 on sales again. Remember sportier and svelte and model differentiation is critical….as is inside and inclusions!

  • Westy

    This I6 better be the best ever and show just how much better the V6 will need to be if it is to come close. Can’t wait to see the reveal tomorrow. Bring it On!!

  • o

    im so excited please will there be a live reveal online like commodore

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Big Bloody Deal. a slightly altered look on a 20th century platform released in the 9th year of the 21st century. Remember 2000 is included in this. I have already seen it in 99% undisguised form in both Broadmeadows and the You Yangs. You will find it as not really worth the hype it has got.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    It will never get to number one again. It will be lucky to get to number 3 in Boring orion guise.

  • TP

    This place is going to be flooded with pics tomoroz.

  • Oz.

    Where have you been Meatpie mate? So if the Falcon won’t become in the top 3, the same can be said about the VE, sales will drop due to it been a large car and GM Holden in Australia will die when Ford still alive have the Aussie Focus! LOL! :P

  • Bob

    if people dont like the 5.4l v8 wiat until 2010 when next updates meant to be release with a bigger v8 or twin turbos v6.
    i do hope the gt produces 320kw atleast because if the typhoon getts 300kw the gt got no chance.
    and kangaroos suck balls

  • David

    Golfshwein if you are right I WILL BE DISAPPOINTED.
    The Ford Fanatics have been saying new from the ground up or it does not share a panel with its predecessor which is something of a qualifying statement.
    I have the suspicion it is no radical break from way back when.
    Can’t wait to be proven wrong

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/3058/latest-ford-falcon-orion-spy-shots/ BUTCH

    WOW the new falcon is only a matter of days away lets just hope it looks better than the 380 and is lower than the commodore FINGERS CROSSED!!!!!

  • Phill

    Should make commodore look old over night since its a ba-bf copy anyway

  • The Associate

    ARRRRRRRRRGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! BRING ON THE FALCON!!

  • Reckless1

    Gee, I just pi$$ed myself with excitement, not.

  • Oz.

    I wonder if the Utes and Wagons use the same back-end? Ford have always done that in the past by keeping the same rear since the 60s, but hopefully by now it should have a new rear.

  • azza85

    Hopefully Ford does something decent with wagon, the past few, ‘just stick a different back on it’ attempts have been terrible.

  • golfschwein

    Phill, casual observers will be excused for thinking that VE’s and Orion’s rear doors are the same. We know they’re not, we can see they’re not, but they’ve never been more similar than this.

    It looks about 1-1/2 years more modern than the VE, which it actually is. It’s really quite conservative. Undoubtedly well done, as is the Commodore, but conservative. It’s the Fiesta that intoduces new elements.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ alborz

    Actually we don’t have the article ready to go, because we have no bloody pictures or prices or specs. So it really will be live coverage tomorrow.

  • Chopstar87

    What time should we expect this info???

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    ALBORZ….GET PICS UP ‘ASAP’ FIRST THING AND REVIEWS, ETC WITH YOUR USUAL PANANCHE AND FLAIR LATER MATE……….THE SITE WILL GO OFF WHEN THIS IS UP!

  • Andrew M

    well does any one know where we can see live coverage?

  • Oz.

    Chopstar87, 11:00am EST or 12:00pm EDT

  • Chopstar87

    Cool…. i cant wait…. i’ll be at work but i will be looking at the site all day… to see the NEW FALCON….
    is it comfirmed the FPV range will be release tomorrow???

  • Phill

    Why has fords rear doors copped so much attetion & focus on rear door entry in the last 2 years.When the design has been around since au?At least you can see better out of the Falcon than a commodore.Maybe the Holden marketing team with the help from the holden bios mainstream motoring media needed to draw attetion away from the fact that the commodre has poor rearward vision.Anyway I ment the frort end styling looks to be a a close copy & moving the fuel tank ahead of the axel,it may not be a world first but between ford & holden,ford did it first.Holden could have done it first if thay wanted too but thay didn’t have to being able to sell a old generation commodore up againt the ba-bf(which is a far superior car)and still top falcon sales.Doing this by frendiy media & using the Aussie car angle in marketing.Holden is the default car maker for Australians who don’t have a perefrence.The new rear doors on the orion should be good you won’t bump your head and you can still see out the back.Go FORD

  • Bavarian Missile

    AndrewM if you checked your email you would know!

  • Oz.

    QUOTE: “Along with the sedan, Ford is also set to showcase the brand new Falcon ute as well as the highly anticipated FPV range.”

    So we going to see if they still have the racoon eye liner. caradvice.com.au/3832/new-falcon-orion-pictures/ Remember Rod Barett made some personal changes to the bodykit.

    OH CRIKEY, JESUS!!! Plesure overload!

  • golfschwein

    I was talking more about the outer skin and silhouette. I’m 186cm tall and have a devil of a time getting in and out of Falcons. Oops, better duck! The things I gotta do to their driving position, you wouldn’t believe! It was the eventual decider in turning down a beautiful metallic orange XR6 with black leather 2-1/2 years ago.

  • Chopstar87

    the driving postion isnt that bad in the BA falcon… to be honest i don’t mine it… perfer it over my mates WRX… that for shore…. i love the sitting postion… comfy

  • http://www.sutcliffe.com/blog Michael Sutcliffe

    Still waiting for the promised live coverage. Can someone point me to any coverage of the release?

  • golfschwein

    The seats are great, chopstar, totally agree. I’m fine once I’m in and mucked around with everything. How tall are you?

  • Chopstar87

    i am 195cm…..

    i got my seat perfect in 04 XR6… and as i am the only one that drives it… it never gets moved out of postion…. saying that i was in the back seat yesterday cleaning the back…

    the Rear door is hard to get in and out of being as tall as i am….

  • you have no idea

    to all you holden fans you have no idea
    do you really think holden started the VE from scratch
    they used a fair amount of carry over part from the VZ
    like the new falcon will use carry over parts from the BF
    But i can tell you now the new falcon is far from a BA-BF

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    Iam 6ft 4in and the Falcon BA ute I have is shit to get in

  • o

    yes will there be live coverage

  • Chopstar87

    i cant sit in a Ba ute comfortablely…… the sit cant go back far enough… i wanted to get a ute but wasnt enough room for me… so i got the sedan….

  • golfschwein

    Ah, so you’re tall, after all. Just younger than me… :)

    The young ones are more flexible.

  • Chopstar87

    LOL… :)

  • QIK-VLT

    Hours away…from what fords dreading, completely the wrong time to bring out a sedan, let alone and performance vehicle, not siding with holden, but jeez, does ford really expect to beat them?

    But i say good luck,
    they might even do well

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    Yes Golfscwein….is a pain to get in well and truly!

  • Chopstar87

    just under 21 hours to go…. not like i am counting….

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    YEAH AND LAUGHED WHEN ALBORZ WROTE IN PREVIEW “JUST A FEW HOURS AWAY”….LOL. A few hours is not meant to be like 28hrs! More likely 4!

  • F@ GTHO

    heaven awiats

  • Andrew M

    Im polishing my falcon as i type getting it ready for a trade……
    does anyone know when the QLD public can have a viewing or even more so a test drive?

    will they allow overnight test drives before it is released for sale like they have done before?
    surely they will do test drives before sale release though…….right???

  • Oz.

    That was an old song when the first Falcon came out. “Have your self a test drive”

    Have your self a test drive,
    You can bet that it’s the best drive.
    If you make sure that you test drive in a Falcon.

  • snapsnap

    Will the new falcon come out with xenon/projector headlamps??????

  • Chopstar87

    i say FPV GT / GT-P will….

  • snapsnap

    Well i think they will considering the slim headlight design.I believe they’l be on the the xr, fairmont ghia an fpv series. Practically every car manufacturer has has them now.

  • Oz.

    I found out on uniquecarsandparts.com.au/falcon_XK_technical_specifications.htm, “Have Your Self A Test Drive” was a song of the Falcon Festival in 1960 when the XK First came out.

    There were 12 Falcon tracks….

    1. Australian with a World of Difference(part 1)
    2. Australian with a World of Difference(Ford model A)
    3. Australian with a World of Difference(The Aussies Interest Was Ar0used By Ford)
    4. Australian with a World of Difference(Ford’s Success Is Really No Mystery)
    5. Keep you Eye On The Falcons Going By
    6. It’s Superb, It’s Deluxe, It’s De-Lovely
    7. The All New Ford That Proud Australian’s Make
    8. Australia’s Falcon By Ford[Everyone In The World Will Applaud]
    9. The Falcon Station Wagon
    10.Have Your Aelf a Test Drive
    11.The Ford Falcon Utility
    12.Sell That Car!

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    SHIVER ME TIMBERS DUDES…..come on Falcon time!

  • snapsnap

    So what will be the earliest time we will get to see the falcon and where? Apart from being there, will it be on the net first, or for instance channel ten news update?

  • http://arousedhotmail.com moe_s15 is right when he

    I’ve got a good feeling bout this car. Sorry Holden, but it’s time to pack up and return to korea. lol
    Billion dollar recall! lol

  • Oz.

    snapsnap, It will be showin through the internet first, like this site.

    Maybe it will be in the back end of the 6:00 news or hopefully a headline!

    The first time the public can see it, is at the Melbourne Motor Show. – CAN’T WAIT! :D

  • Oz.

    Oh, I’m so sick to waiting! Chopstar87 was right, it is a LLLLLLLLLLL-OOOOOOOOOOO-NNNNNNNNNNN-GGGGGGGGGGGGGG day.

  • snapsnap

    yep for the first time in 8 months i wont be googling “falcon spy shots” anymore.

  • Oz.

    I agree, that’s how I found this site. By looking up the new Falcon.

  • Oz.

    0days 19hours 34min

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    FFS, its not going to be anything to write home about. It wont even get within a fraction of Holden Commodore sales. The Focus program is als in jepordy. Goodbye Ford Australia. Holden never have and never will be a Korean company you losers. FFS the new Falcon is still on a platform from not only last century but last millenium. Now how dated is that. Oh and the VE was a total departure from the VZ. Just like Falcon didnt even make the top 10 in January I cannot see Falcon getting inside the top 3 and without exports it will die a lonely death. Commodore has the middle east market, The North America market, and son to be British and European markets to add to it once the 3ltr Turbo diesel is out when the VF or VG is released in most likely 2009 or 2010. R.I.P Ford Australia, the next Mitsubishi Motors looking at already Job Losses in Geelong.

  • Oz.

    Thanks for your helpfull conribuition, Kangarwoos. If it wasn’t for idiots like you, Holden would of gone bust along time ago having to let Ford put up with special need students. So insted of “special need student on bord” we just use the Holden bage insted, we will find you alot better than, “special need student on bord”, so we can save you from drowning your self in your own drool.

  • falconlover

    Shutup u holden wanker go back to your vn commodore!Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars sucks! Can’t wait to the new falcon!

  • Oz.

    Hey Alborz, I think it time for Basketball, Applepies, Eagles and Holden cars to be banned – He mainly just comes to a Ford post to say it’s crap and will go broke. Do we really need idiots like that?

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    hey everybody i would first and foremost like to apologize for my immature behaviour i have finally realised what a biased, immature pathetic waste of space and time i am. This is mainly due to the fact that i’ve realised that holden isn’t australian owned and Ford will kill them, thus i have decided to change my name to:

    Basketball,Waffles,Eagles And GM Corperation

  • BK

    Commodore slowly becoming a Pontiac. Holden is slowly fadin away here in AUS. Steve Brax will make sure that we will only get imports by 2020. Bye bye holden welcome Pontiac and as for Ford falcon it still will be a Ford falcon only from USA. Bring on the imports.

  • John S

    to comment on previous comment…*right….*

    is it sunday yet?

  • Oz.

    Bravo!

  • Oz.

    I don’t want to got to bed early tonight because I’m expecting leaked pics to come early.

  • snapsnap

    Poor meatpie, did u get rejected from your h”old”en forum?

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    The last poster just copyrighted me, also if you idiots can have a go at Holden I am entitled to bag Ford, its jealous idiots like you who should be banned. Everybody is entitled to a opinion. Ford Oz got themselves in the trouble they find themselves in when they brought out the (A)wfully (Ugly) Faldunnycan. If you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Tell you what next time you bag Holden or defame them I will see to it you are banned. You dont know who I am so just grow up and do your school homework as you have school on Monday. Oh and guess what, I got a invite to the unvailing and if its as uneventful as my sources say I will make sure that is written about it in some sort of medium which is not caradvice. Yes I too test cars for a living. You will never guess who I/ am but put it this way with all the complaints I hear about Fords sales and service department and the fact that they spent so much on a mid life update and with limited funds available for the Orion dont hold your breath on it being much different apart from superficial differences.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    No, I am a proud member of LS1 and since when has caradvice been only a Ford Forum.

  • Oz.

    Hey Football, Hamburgers, Eagles and Holdenwoo Sux! Did you know that ALL Comodores before the VE were just modified Opels?

    VB-VL = Opel Rekord
    VN-VS = Opel Omega A
    VT-VZ = Opel Omege B

    Congrats Holdenwoo for finaly making a car that’s a little closer to being Australian as Falcons after 1971. And the recalls they’ve had.

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    FOOTBALL SKULL….may I point out reality!

    GM has recorded the largest loss ever sustained by a car maker in 2007. And you got the hide to look at a platform. Mate you sound like your scuba diving at 40metres and holding your breathe! And if you had any wits about you – you would know what would happen?

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    Good call OZ. Maybe we should call him KEBAB KID

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    Yes and maybe the millions on the Focus programme are pulled…..look no further then Jenny Macklin when it was commented by here the lifestyles towards indigenous cultures will be improved. REALITY IS FUNDING CUTS EQUALS MORE SPEND AND FOCUS GRANT IN JEOPARDY!

    Now Iam sorry that may occur as Ford Australia respositioning itself.

  • Oz.

    Football, Hamburgers, Eagles and Holdenwoo Sux said on Focus RS confirmed:

    “The Commodore was only ever a modified Rekord during the VB to VL. All other Commodores have only been Australian made and designed”

    I will say it again…

    VN-VS = Opel Omega A
    VT-VZ = Opel Omege B

  • BK

    Is it holden or OLDHEN. Is it a Pontiac or poon tang

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    OZ we know. Kebab Kid might get his head around it…albiet slow. Where would Holden be without Opel, Cadillac and Vauxhall. Least Ford is laying the platform for making the Focus here and that is important to Aussie jobs. LOL.

    SCORECARD MADE DOWN UNDER
    FORD – Focus, Falcon, Territory
    HOLDEN – Commodore

    HOLDEN MEANS A GREAT DEAL TO IT OFFSHORE POSITIONING ELSEWHERE….ITS ALL DOLLARS AND SENSE

  • Oz.

    Hey NM, “Kebab Kid” really had a stumble there didn’t he? :)

  • Watto_Cobra

    F,MP,K&HC, last I remember you said you were a lawyer??? I may be wrong.

    As for the platform, are you still bitter that the uber-expensive VE is considered by most motoring journos to be only a little above the aging BA/BF?

  • snapsnap

    Meatpie i dont care who you are or what u do and im sure nobody else does so go home and test your matchbox cars. Who are your sources, your mates at ls1? Im sure your voice will influence all the motoring media. Not gonna happen ya feather dick!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    So you are saying that since 1966 The Faldunnycan has beeb totally based on a Aussie design. I also suggest you do a search on Holden History. It goes way beyond the time GM bought the Ausie franchise. If only I had enough time to mention all the horror stories of Fords over the years. So you are saying Ford do more in Oz than Holden. Ok Falcon/Territory use same platform as do Commodore/Stateman/Caprice. Holden have been exporing Oz made 4 cylinders for well over 20 years. The TORANA will be another Oz designed and built car. Focus is not Guaranteed to stay as Oz produced model. I congratulate my local member for having the sense to keep a promise. Ford dug their own grave my going against Governments incistance to use the funding allocated for the Falcon to enable for it to concentrate on a Left hand drive export. Instead saying they wanted it to try and mimic a european designed car. If I was part of the government I would have withdrawn it regardless as soon as Ford said the money was not to beused on a Oz large car of which Australia have been experts at for around 40 years. You really do have a lot to lrarn. Obviously they dont teach you Australian motoring history at school. Even in the 70′s and 80′s Ford only had the swb and lwb Falcons while Holde had the swb and lwb Kingswood range nd the Toranas Aus designed and built cars. Escort/Cortina were both crappy English cars.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    I know plenty who would pay for the images I already have from a source of mine but you have 2 chances buckley’s and none of seeing them. So go ahead and wait because despite having a invite, I have had info for over a month from a inside source who I met when Jac Nasser from Melbourne was gead honcho at Ford.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Oh and before you say the torana was Vauxhall Viva based, that was only for the first generation Torrie.

  • Oz.

    Let’s settle down meatpie, we won’t attack Holden posts, and Holden fans won’t attack Ford posts… DO WE HAVE A DEAL?

  • snapsnap

    Nobody wants to hear your sour grapes story meatpie. Come tomorrow your photos are going to be worth 0

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    further more i am a bell end and take it up the back its true ask me mum

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    That is all I hae ever wanted, for christs sake we should be attacking companies that have only been in OZ for 40 years or less. Toyota have threatened to leave OZ if our dollar keeps rising, Mitsubishi has already gone as has Nissan.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    To the person using my handle, get yourself some imagination and stop trying to portray yourself as someone else. I am over 40, both my father and mother have passed away you low scumbag. I dare you cme to Jenny Macklins electorate and say that to me face to face loser. I dare you

  • viper

    it would be interesting to see what the power figures for the inline 6 and boss v8 will be given there will be new engines in 2010

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    By the way, I have yor I.P address and will be tracing down your location scumbag.

  • golfschwein

    Football, I don’t know the capacity in which you supposedly test drive cars for a living. One thing I know for sure, if you get “a invite to the unvailing”, you sure as hell don’t write about them.

    People who write about them are called journalists, son, and you don’t make the grade.

    I’ll keep the second bullet in my Dickheads’ Gun reserved for You Have No Idea. What a beautiful, ironic proclamation of oneself. Yes, the VE was started from scratch, engines and transmissions apart.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Oh and if you dont kno which electorate it is look up JagaJaga.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    I suppose Golfscwein, you have already used the first bullet in your dickheads gun for yourself. You really are scum not deserving of any job. I suppose your a journalist. I very much doubt it and if you were i would expect yours to have no useful information in it. I could thrash you hands down with any test drive and review with my eyes blindfolded.

  • golfschwein

    yair but i cin rite inglish gooder den wot yew can cwy baby.

    Stay off line. You’re giving your University a bad name.

  • golfschwein

    I see there are two Football etcs. The second one’s my kinda guy…sense of humour goin’ on there, or what! LOL :)

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Oh well, when you are old enough to have 2 deceased parents I will make fun of your mum also. YOU really have no idea. Hey guess what I can write in 6 different languages and my english is far better than you who uses american words whenever you can.
    Oh bien, quand vous êtes assez vieux pour avoir 2 parents décédés je fera l’amusement de votre maman également. VOUS n’avez vraiment aucune idée. Hé conjecture ce que je peux écrire dans 6 langues différentes et mon anglais est bien meilleur que vous qui emploie des mots américains toutes les fois que vous pouvez.

    OH- gut, wenn Sie genug alt sind, 2 gestorbene Eltern zu haben ich, macht über Ihrer Mama auch lustig. SIE haben wirklich keine Idee. He Vermutung was ich in 6 unterschiedliche Sprachen schreiben kann und mein Englisch weit besser ist, als Sie, das amerikanische Wörter verwendet, wann immer Sie können.

    2 人の死んだ親を有するには十分に古い私ときよのオハイオ州はあなたのミイラの、楽しみをまた作る。実際に考えを有しない。私が6 つの言語で書くことができるおよび私の英国が何をちょっとできる時はいつでもアメリカの単語を使用するよりずっとよい推測。

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    And thats just 3 of them for which I review from persons of non english background.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    golfschwein ist eine pathetische Hahnabziehvorrichtung

  • golfschwein

    Your real genius is that you have a translating program.

  • Minnow

    FMK&HC yes…. despite your hatred for fords, you still have pictures of a falcon… Its like a man having pictures of a naked man and then he says “no i’m not gay”, and because you hate ford and you would use your pictures to get money because you wouldn’t care about fords embargoes because you hate them and we would be seeing them, and before you say ford might sue you, they wouldn’t know who released the pictures. So cut the crap, i can say i’m prince Babushka from Schlobinia and i own a oil reserve in china. Your raving on about ford going to close is like you were a employee who was fired for being too stupid. One of those short annoying people that keep talking and wont shut up because they are trying to prove themselves.

  • golfschwein

    What’s “unvailing” in German?

  • snapsnap

    hey meatpie why dont u get a life mate, nobody wants to know,or cares how many languages u speak or how many unveilings u been to or uni degrees etc. I bet your the sort of bloke who sucks up to his boss everyday and backstabs his collegues, talks to himself infront of a mirror and walks around thinkin your shit dont stink. We’re here to talk about a car, not your life acheivements bud.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Gee wonder who he got that idea of………me. I think NM and I struck back at him one night Golfschwein, in Spanish I think! Real original of him.

    Go back to LS1 cause your just embarrassing yourself over here…..mind you, you probably do the same there!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Unveiling is Vorstellen in German. And no I do not have a translating program. I utilise the many fonts available on Vista. And yes I actually speak all those languages as well

  • Bavarian Missile

    Sure you do……….

  • Minnow

    i agree!! with ya snapsnap, people are on here because they are enthusiastic and excited about seeing a completely new looking car, people get excited over things they love. People even get excited and mad over something as small as a little iPod. Its the fun of seeing something new. Then we get someone like meat head here telling people they shouldn\’t care less about something they are soo interested in then attacking them saying the their favorite car is a piece of crap. What a loser…

  • golfschwein

    Well, bully for you! Nice to see you got the hang of “unveiling”. It’s not a difficult language.

    You’re obviously an intelligent guy. Your next challenge is to act like one.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Heres a thought we could just ignore the fool and discuss the car….

    Anyone near Geelong today and see a bunch of buses with suits on them!

  • Oz.

    6 hours & 25 min to go!!!!!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    I am entitled to bag those who bag Holden. Thats a persons right. Read my post to Oz. At least he makes sense now.

  • Oz.

    no i was wrong

  • Oz.

    It was 16 hours, not 6 hours. I wish it was though!

  • golfschwein

    Still with us, Football? I’m surprised you can remain seated for so long with a prolapsed bell-end.

  • Oz.

    This is a good site for the Orion because it’s not so negitive. I got the time from Drive, but I regret going there because it’s so negitive about the Falcon. What do they want, Ford to go broke?

    I really don’t want any company to leave OZ, let’s all hope the 380 the last car to leave the country.

  • Minnow

    I noticed that too, for years the media was targeting Mitsubishi that they were going to close down which eventually came true. Now there is no other company to target, so everyone is now targeting ford simply because the falcon is selling the lowest numbers in its history when there is news of a new model to be released in hours and the BA BF is getting really dated in appearance and safety features. To be even up there in 13th is quite an achievement for a car that has barely changed for 6 years. No wonder people are not buying the current model its just way too common. Around every corner is a BA/Bf falcon its like confetti all over australia.

  • Oz.

    I have seen so many people saying it’s time for the Falcon to go now that the 380 going. For those people, (Especialy Holden fans) Remember this….

    No Falcon = No more popular V8 Supercars. (Most popular motorsport category in Australia)

    I’m sure it would help the Commodore Cup, but after a while, it’ll get boring.

  • nos

    sup peeps? what time eactly do teh cars get unveiled? hav ebeen waitn so long for this car its not funny lol. so could someone help my out plz? would be much appreciated

  • Wheelnut

    Hey Football meatpies… You seem to [think that you] know a fair bit about Holden yet if that were the case you would have realised that there has already been a VG Commodore it was the model ID given to the Holden Ute when it made its comeback back when the VN was released.
    Therefore; it is Highly unlikely they will call the next model Commodore [if there is a next model] the VG.

  • Oz.

    I agree Minnow, Falcon’s low sales are caused by the BF (current model) looking to old while the Commodore is all new and they know a new model Falcon is coming out, so they hold off buying a new Falcon untill the Orion is on sale.

  • nos

    can anyone help me out?

  • Oz.

    nos, it’s on midday tomorow!

  • snapsnap

    11am tomorrow nos

  • acfsambo

    One thing i have to say is a statement i have come up with myself (I am 16) “Fords are bult for enthusiasts, Holdens are made for fans”. Also if Holden are so good FMK&HC, whats the largest price a Holden has ever got at an acution. I bet it is nowhere near a HO. Some HO’s (Especially the Phase III) are getting close to a million, sad to say the highest for a Holden ive seen os about 400K.

  • ChopstaR87

    hey guys….

    i just read somewhere that there will be a new name plate in the FPV range that is to be released tomorrow… any one heard about this???

    i thinking a new name for the Force 6/8… any idea people???

  • Wheelnut

    Quote: Football meatpies… “The TORANA will be another Oz designed and built car”

    Ah now it won’t its more likely to be built in Canada along side the Camaro. Because the Torana is expected to also be sold as the new Pontiac G6 [Compact] whcih will sell in far greater numbers than the Torana will here
    Therefore GM will problably decide to build it closer to home.

    U mean The Monaro was also expected to be built in Canada but as the Camaro will sell in far greater numbers than the GTO – it has since been put on ice.. Which is why we will be impoting the Camaro and the Torana in 2010

    Besides ATM Even though there is enough room out the back of the Elizabeth plant Holden have no immediate plans for expansion.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Yes it was for the vn series Holden ute as was the vq for the vn ute. I actually think after this generation Commodore it will changemodel designations after 32 years of the V series. Hard to say what will come after vf

  • nos

    cheers for that oz. i also agree with you on the bf lookin out dated. its great car dont get me wrong. nuthin like a good old ford. and this car should be a real stunner i should think. a HSV beater for shore. Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden ……… why are you on here seriously. if you think your holdens are such a great car you wouldnt have to worry about bein on here now would ya? and im pretty sure no one else wants ya on here. exept for teh reason to poke fun at your ass.

  • o

    lol i found this website searching for spyshots any live revael online though

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Dont rule out the Torrie being built off the Elizabeth plant or even down at Port Melbourne. Nothing is in concrete about where it will be built yet. But one thing is for sure. Its platform will be aussie.

  • Andrew M

    Football,

    RIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!
    what ever mate……

    you must be pretty worried about the new falcon if you have to hang around here and try to make it look worse.

    yeah i remember you were a Lawyer last time you had a brain malfunction and started speaking the rubbish you are once again.

    so someone is in trouble for copyrighting your name right?
    so when we all gather on the bus bound for court we can also have the law suit against you for defamation of the ford motor company sorted too.
    oh and to make it 3 birds one stone how about we throw the book regarding privacy laws at you where you claim to have our IP Adresses??

    grow up mate

  • Oz.

    HA HA now Andrew M’s here!!!! LOL This will be funny

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Well i made fun about them, more crude actually in another language plus debate is a good thing. Ford vs Holden rivalry has been going on for decades

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Andrew M, grow up, Yes I do have a law degree but thayt doesnt stop someone from having a passion they have persued. Just ask Andrew O’Keefe who is a lawyer.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Actually pursued

  • nos

    ay meatpie. answer this for me. if ya holdens are such a great car. what happened to teh vl mate? they took a good motor. messed around wif it. created problems, they didnt rust proof around the windows, put drummies on it, a shit interior a faulty fuel guage? why are tehre so many problems wif ur so called great cars. and why has teh new commadore had what 4 recalls now is it?

  • Wheelnut

    Ahh wait on Bob Lutz has flagged the Torana/Pontiac G6 bbeing released by 2010-2012.. 4 years away which is barely enough time to design the new expansion of the Elizabeth plant; get thh designs approved; commence cinstruction; find the right robots and program them to do the required tasks inorder to build the Car.

    It’s platform mightn’t be Aussie….will be either the Alpha platform used under the ManGenta TT-36 Concept Car or the Insignia platform which will also be used under the upcoming Vectra which could [Hopefully] see a return tto Oz along with Other opels

    But the key factor in the descision will probably be the market which has the greater projected/expected sales which on size alone would more likely be the USA-Canada

  • Xenu

    Foot ball meat packer guy: How can a LAWYER have such terrible diction and grammar. Its hard to believe you are a lawyer when you have to troll a Ford article, trying to get as much attention as possible and telling us how you necro’ the living(sic) shit out of your dead parents.
    Holden are bad corporate citizens, who use their marketing power and false image to push Korean imported (retrograde) milk cartons onto the public. There is NOTHING groundbreaking about the VE, they spent a shitload on marketing, and the engines were re-hashed yesterdays dinner. The Alloytec is a joke. Get a life you sad pathetic tool.

    Getting back on topic, I hope Ford delivers in the details. The large Aussie car won’t be a dinosaur if they equip them with frugal alternative fuel engines.

  • Wheelnut

    That’s what I was getting at I doubt there will be another commodore after this.. It’s more likely Holden will go for a more Compact car like the [imported] Torana which will be able to take V6 TT-V6 and V8 engines as well as be RWD or AWD – If they use the Insignia Platform

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    4 minor precautionary recalls. Now tell me which company has the most recalls and which has the 2nd highest. Well Toyotais the number one most recalled car company and Ford is the Number two most recalled motor car company. Maybe the 3ltr Nissan motor just didnt suit a large family car. Dont forget thats over 20 years ago now, things change.

  • Andrew M

    if you do have a law degree then i bet the whole court room laughs at you when you speek yous good inglish.

    if you also had a law degree you would tred carefully when you try to say you have had many complaints from ford owners whilst all that time surely you must have heard of the VE recalls and other related dramas. just read this sites complaints section to find the large amount of upset commodore owners
    oh and wouldnt you be worried that some one might counter argue your claims with a simple phrase that goes…….
    “remember the VS commodore?” yeah im sure the many owners of them that i know have no complaints….not

  • Growler

    OZ I also think its terible mitsu has finally decided to pull up stumps in australia it is ironic that the evo’s gave everything a towelling in the bathurst 12 hr if only those vehicles were built by mitsubishi australia. I am only guessing here but in the not to distant future our beloved v8 falcons will be powered by jaguar donks that will be far more superior to those stoneage yank oil burners, until then holden should be a bit concerned about a 300kw typhoon giving a GTS a floggin.

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    The next gen commodore is already well into the design stage. The Commodore will survive regardless with the middle east market as well where it sells well and has for many years. My grammar is better than most on this board for someone lying down typing with one finger. Plus anyone can be lazy on a posting board. I will use phone text chat if you want. It would suit me.

  • Andrew M

    Wheelnut,
    mate it wouldnt surprise me if we may soon see the last commodore soon.
    im not saying that just to try and stick a boot in but rather because they had planned to cease the commodore around 2002.
    at the same time they were starting to push the Vectra.

    my theory was they were going to use the vectra as a commodore replacement.

    i felt if holden killed their main recognised product (commodore) they would have died overnight.

    so it wouldnt surprise me if once they get this “Torana” platform going if they were to use that as its main bread and butter product.
    the talk has been had before by holden/GM on the subject, and im sure it will re-ignite once the brand spanker platform comes online.

    it will be an interesting move by holden if they do go through with it as most of the auto sales that occur are a result of a familiarity with a certain nameplate

  • Andrew M

    Football,
    Approach the bench…………….

    SLAP,SLAP

  • Bavarian Missile

    Football what are you doing on this thread exactly? Its clear you don’t like Fords so why bother wasting your time and ours
    by cluttering this thread up with arguments?

    Go argue your case on the LS1 Forum….

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    One site out of hundreds, how legit can you be that all of these genuine commodore owners and not scum like you making untruths. You cannot prove these people actually own Commodores. At least Holden take precautions. I remember mny ford problems of the car slipping from Park to reverse or drive. Friends of ours had a xe fairmont that nearly killed the wife when it slipped into drive from Park while she got out to check her mail. I never heard of recalls for that cdommon deadly problem. Very familiar with Ameican Lincolns as well.

  • nos

    mate minor recalls? i do beleive the last was a fear of teh car catching on fire due to the fuel lines being to close to electrical cables. and u call that minor ay? wanka

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Man I can be so stupid sometimes, I should really grow up, gee that’s why everyone is picking on me, you bunch of bullys, I wish Holden was more like Ford the torrie could be our only aussie made saviour, platformed in Australia, oh heal my spirit and praise the lord, well if Ford go down after tomorrow I will become a priest and preach the holy torrie to the world…

  • nos

    i chose not to die a flaming death thanks. and twenty years ago or not bro. much hasnt changed. ive worked on the astras and the rodeos and every singe one has had teh same problems. same goes for teh commadores. liek they say once uv driven one holden youve driven em all.

  • Wheelnut

    Andrew – I think that they won’t actually kill of the Commodore

    I feel they will initially import the Torana – yet continue to call it a Commodore.. as that is their most recognised name..

    then they will probably overhaul the Elizabeth factory and start making it here by about 2016 as Holden is the R7D Cente for GMs RWD projects

    I can’t see the “Compact-odore” being built here any time before that as Holden will want to recover the cost of the VE Robots which took up most of the $1Bn budget and that oculd take some time.. they will then need extra money for the possible overhaul

  • Growler

    Don’t go anywhere FOOTBALL i think it is healthy to have a different opinion I find it very entertaining bring it on you commodore driving tool.

  • TP

    Football these Ford fairies are weak individuals… they will tend to gang up. As far as Im and the rest of the world is concerned, the Falcon and Commodore are equally POS’, so much so the reliability survey had them as equal LAST in the large car segment. Nuff said.

  • Growler

    What am I saying, nobody is a bigger tool than me.

  • Wheelnut

    You’re right about them [GM] wanting to kill off the Commodore in 2002.. thats around the same time when GM wanted Holden to take use the Pontiac Sigma platform..

    Holden engineers looked at and deemed unsuitable for a car like the Commodore not to mention Australias uniwue climate etc..

    They took a gamble and designed the new Zeta platform [Commodore] as well as the Alpha Platform [TT-36 Concept] which ironically could be used under the next Pontiac G6 – which used to use the Sigm Platform GM wanted Holden to use.

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    First bit of sense you have made growler

  • Andrew M

    wheelnut,
    i agree mate and perhaps i should re-word my earler statement.
    i did say it wouldnt be surprised if we see the last commodore soon,
    but rather i should have said……..
    “i wont be surprised if we dont see the last [commodore as we know it] soon”
    im sure holden wont be silly enough to kill the actual name plate as there are many followers of the raw name “commodore”

  • Andrew M

    Football,
    mate im sure you can verify every comment RE: holden complaints on this site as you have every ones IP adress and can track them down remember?????

  • Wheelnut

    Don’t worry about TP or the other Toyota fans they always like to support their weak cases by referring to surveys and statistics [botjh of which can and often are manipulated to suit]

    Fact of the matter is.. if the results of these surveys were accurate and people were unhappy with Holden or Fords quality; service etc then surely both of them would have been out of business years ago..
    T
    here not which proves that there are still those who are happy with the Falcon and Commodore as they are probably one of the best value for money family size RWD cars available which can deal with our unique climate and conditions

  • Bavarian Missile

    TP……..well that’s what we would expect of you by now I guess……..

    There are 2 types of people in the world

    Eeyore’s and Tiggers….Im guessing you are an Eeyore!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    This has been the most entertaining read for awhile how funny are some of these comments, I’m cracking up in tears please stop or I will have to go to hospital to wipe my enlarged smile off, just kidding keep it up life is too serious bro’s…..

    Well not too far away now, c’mon Ford lets again be leader of the pack win all the important awards like the current model has and did..I’m sure this will happen anyway

  • Andrew M

    TP,
    i was starting to like you mate,
    but you have shown your childish input once again.

    come one make make friend not foe.

    oh course we will attack the untruthfull pictures that Football paints. hell even Wheelnut (a holden fan) is agreeing with us “ford fairies”
    gian an interest in the subject or ship out

  • Andrew M

    all the surveys prove is that toyota delivers better service……
    not that they deliver better quality cars.

    surveys are opinionative and not factual. opinions reflect emotions and if someone has poor service from ford or holden then they see a minor problem as a massive mark on the company.

    on the other hand if someone were to have a major problem with a toyota yet got awesome response and service from toyota they would see it better than having a mnor problem with poor service

  • nos

    very well put there andrew

  • Wheelnut

    I knew what you were getting at Andrew.

    I mean look at what has Happened to sales of what was the PULSAR since Nissan changed the name to Tiida.

    You’d say “I drive a pulsar” and someone would say “That’s a good reliable car.”
    Yet if you said “I drive a Tiida” peopl;e would say “A What?”

    Its the same reason car companies still use their old iconic names for their retro-tech sports cars such as Mustang; Camaro; Charger etc.. people hear the name and they know what it is what it looks like etc.

  • nos

    can you holden fans please let us have a moment of exitement and anticipation for once without tyin to put us down? u have had your moment of glory. so let us have ours. if ya cant manage that then tehre is no real reaosn for u to be here.

  • Watto_Cobra

    Wheelnut, I have to say I’m surprised at your predictions regarding the Commodore, seeing as you are a big Holden fan.

    Is that an educated guess, or you know someone in the know?

  • Bavarian Missile

    Of course Wheelnut agrees with Ford Fairies his wifes a Ford lover…..hey babe!

    No…… just shows that we are not Badge Extremists..Im sure when the Orion does come out us Ford fans will be the first to pick over it……..

  • Bavarian Missile

    Me agrees with you Nos…….

  • Growler

    What are you saying? Commodore has won wheels car of the year at least 3 times with the VB,VT and VE and I actually think VN won it as well. Commodore has also won bang for your bucks multiple times and also the Australian Design award a couple. Plus nomination for world car of the year and has been the first Aussie make to introduce airbags esc etc and IRS as standard in the range.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Ok this has to be a record almost 200 posts on this thread in 24 hours……

  • BOB

    Football and Kangaroo Meat Sandwich, man are you on the same page here or have those marbles left your bag of Holdenwoo crap. if you knew how to speak different languages how come I find your english and grammar hard to follow mate, Holdens are not that great have you seen some them on our roads these days, they age terribly, cheap and nasty….

  • snapsnap

    just imagine what it will be like tomorrow!

  • nos

    cheers Bavarian Missile .

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    FOOTBALL….mate you must be Humpty Dumpty, the more you say the more you crack yourself up! And more importantly so others who read you ramblings, straight jacket warblings and stutterings. The coefficient of linear expanse is quite frightening on you tonight, the variance is remarkable! Tighten the bolts and put locktite on them!

    Remember Iam a fan of all cars – not like some obsessed people on here!

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Never thought I would hear Growler say that. You Ford fans are so defensive. Must be a inferiority complex.

  • nos

    yep cant wait snap snap. does anyone know fi any of teh magazines will eb out tommra wif the images and specs in em?

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Hey dont forget Ford Oz wee the first to import Korean. Now they will be importing Thai as well as South African cars. So Maybe I should call Ford Fordkia. Kia didnt have such a good reputation for many years. Remember the Festiva pieceof manure.

  • Oz.

    Let’s keep being positive, no matter what car you like.

    If you are a Holden fan and be positive, WE ALL WIN. That means Ford fans will keep getting butterflys reading all this and Holden fans will feel good too by not being in an argument.

    TP, I would of expected you to completely spoil this post along time ago, almost like what Bavarian Missile said…

  • nos

    inferiority? maybe its because we have to deal wif assholes liek you meetpie………… who dont know when to give up and relise when your not wanted. especially since your in a ford convosation. your basicly askin for us to have a go at you. but yet you keep comin back like a little puppy thats lost its way. or what has been booted up teh ass by its owner either way.

  • Wheelnut

    You’re right Babe…

    But All I was trying to do initailly; was set people straight as to what GM-Holdens immediate plans and projects are. Particularly in relation to the Commodore/Torana.. given the timeframe etc

    And yes I do know a number of people in the Auto industry.
    I also have an extensive collection of brochures books articles reports and other material relating to GM-Holden.

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Exactly right Oz, but a bit of rivalry just like on the race track is a bit of fun. No need for some of those ord people to be so thin skinned. I treat people the way they treat me. If they insult my car company I will insult theirs. Fairs fair, I am sick to death of hose idiots calling Holden Holdenwoo when its Gm who owns them not Holden. Just like Ford own Kia and the car associated with old people with Bowlers hats on the back seat parcel shelf Volvo.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Hey Nos that would be nice but I doubt any of the dealers that saw the cars today would have the balls to release them before the media get to the unveiling tomorrow….hey Phoonfan your lucky you live in Melbourne cause I could do a little seducing for info for some info tonight with a good bottle of red..hahaha Tiger!

  • Bavarian Missile

    Mes off……..back later.

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Nos, you are quite happy to put your nose in Holden conversations, seen you there talking crap so lead by example if you think you are superior. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Do you think we want your type hen a Holden article pops up tosser.

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    FOOTBALL….Kia/Hyundai alliance sold 6.9million cars worldwide, not far behind Toyota for a newcomer. Toyota is being chased and what hurts is the stats on the newcomer concerning quality and reliability are on a sharp rise. Comments like the i30 exceeds anything from Japan bar Lexus and Porsche are powerful statements on road ahead.

  • Wheelnut

    I agree with Nos.. The Current Falcon is an great car and I expect the Orion will be too..

    which car would you rather travel around Oz in A Falcon or a Yaris? [bearing in mind - Road Trains}

    I mean on http://www.autoblog.com [the American version of CarAdvice] there are comments by a number of Americans wishing they could have large sedans like ours with the look; specification and performance as both the Commodore and the Falcon..

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    KIa and Hyundai have also been in Australia a lot longer than what Daewoo was.

  • nos

    Bavarian Missile what i ment was like go onto the streetfords or performance fords eitehr oen i forget . and it shows a magazine wif the new falconn on the front blurred out and says wait for tommra for teh release. so im not saure if they will print em tommra or what

  • Oz.

    WHY ARE WE RANTING? FORGET IT! Keep F0RD VS Holden on the race track, if no one wants to listen to this comment, type on Google “V8 supercar argument forum” or some sh!t and stay there – I can’t see how you guys can’t agree with that.

  • o

    i used to be a commodore supporter until i realised what a bland and boring effort it was and that if i moved to america i could have a 135i coupe for US$30000 commodres are rubbish at least ford has the guts to desing something that may actually look good on the world stage.

  • BOB

    LOL hahaha Nos,, yeah just like Ford booting Holden up the A$$ in the the past and future.. Ford’s early models are more collectable, so someone like Meat Head gets jealous and has a go at Ford just to feel wanted in this world, he’s is hoping revived torana will be successful so in 30 years time he can sell it for a billion dollars, but hang on I nearly forgot cars will fly like the jetsons cartoon no need for toranas anymore damn it…waste of metal and time……

  • nos

    ******************wistle***********************
    time out people.
    enoguh with the arguing!!!!!!!!!!
    can we all have a civilized convosation.
    is that to much to ask. ok we all have our own fiews on differnt car makes. then thats our choice. if theres summin mean ya gotta say keep it to yourself.

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    FOOTY HEAD….dont care about ya comparison to Daewoo. You see you are the one with a one tract mind as boring, bland and devoid of any depth as one obsession…just an obsession and a belief in one car maker. Iam not; and have gone on record as stating that. Iam actually comparing Hyundai and Kia (same company) with Toyota as you will find Toyota took a hell of a lot longer to get where it is when compared to the small time Hyundai and Kia have been around.

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    How much do you thinka genuine original Brock A9X goes for and also now the original HDT VB commodore. I can bet you one of those if put up for auction now would blow the GTHO out of the water now in particular since THe King of the Mountain has passe on. Just wait for someoneto auction off their investment. By the way, my second car was a genuine LX A9X

  • nos

    na forget i said that . lol i cant help teasin meatpie. he such a wanka lol

  • ChopstaR87

    hey nothing has come close from holden to the sale price of the GTHO Pharse III champ…… NOTHING AUSTRLIAN has come close….

    EVERY ONE KNOWS THE GTHO PHARSE III WAS THE KING OF MUSCLE CARS in australia….

    dont worry your GTS will back in its place soon…. behind a F6…. lol….

    right now they sit next to each other but as of tomorrow HSV will behind the Turbo falcon… lol

    so any one heard about this name name plate ford to release tomorrow in the FPV range???

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    FOOTBALL…sure your second car want a hotted up Daewoo Espero with mags and spoiler. Your like TP….stuck hard on one car brand. HOW BLAND IS THAT! REALITY IS EVERY HOLDEN IS NOT TOP OF CLASS….variety is the spice if life! Cook some up as you need an overdose of it!

  • BK

    Well holden has allready handed the comodore over to the Yanks so they have become Pontiacs in USA. Holden think they will make the torana but the government here wont help out like they do with other companies so they close em down. So we have to rely on imports and if a torana gets goin then 90 percent of the car will be imported from asia. So how many years will the torana survive for. Maybe only for a few years till they go broke again cause of government control of car industry.
    Holden not so good and then Ford isnt so good.
    Everybody wants fuel efficient cars and Holden and Ford dont have em. Big cars are on the way out and small cars are in. And who will lead in small cars thats easy the asians will. In china up to 5000 jobs are created each day cause of cheap labour. The chinese who live in the villages are moving to the cities cause they can make money for themselves. Here in OZ we cant compete with the way chineses go so we are all slowly relying on them now to supply us the car parts. Jobs are slowly disapearing here and soon we wont have a car industry. So whoever thinks that the comodore and falcon will survive in our country well u gotta really think about that cause they wont. By 2020 u wont see falcons and comodores built in OZ anymore cause they are to big and use to much fuel and u will see a generic version of em and so far its happening to the commodore. Also remeber its the badge that really tells u wat car it is. Our government here just dont care about Holdens and Fords anymore. They love the cheap low quality stuff.

  • Westy

    Can’t wait….not long now.

    I see quite a few Holden lovers trying to spoil the party. Hey did anyone see the latest recall for Holden….it was only for about 70,000 VE cars or so from what I read (in Wheels or Motors last issue)….something to do with a fuel hose rubbing. Gee what a great car the VE is if they can’t even get that right.

    Come on Ford, release this car already !!!

  • Oz.

    Settle down NM & FBMPKAHC!!!

  • BOB

    I think i would rather VOLVO technology than Daewoo Korean cheap crap, wake up meat pie you going down the wrong path there are more cardigans and bowler hats in corollas dude Volvo is a sophisticated engineering marvel even when they picked on it for being the safest car saving live’s. I would very much doubt Daewoo would save your’s or the words you type in this post give it up now……

  • Westy

    Also you Holden lovers, your parent company in Yankee Land made what sort of loss last year ? Was it 40 billion dollars….can’t quite remember…..gee I wouldn’t be worried Dunnydores will keep them afloat! Yeh right!

    Go Ford!

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Um didnt know they were arounfd in 1977, wow you learn something new everyday. In my day there was no limit on power P platers cold use unlike yourself who probably had a beatn up 80′s Toyota Corona or Datsun 120Y.

  • Wheelnut

    I believe at a recent auction a Genuine GT-HO sold for 600-800K..
    whereas on http://www.australianmusclecars.com.au the priciest Holden has been an VL Walkie for just over $300K

  • nos

    holden take it up the ass doo dah doo dah. just like meat pie. dont ya buddy :)

  • Oz.

    *****NON-PRIMO!*****!

    I can’t believe this is a day with no “Frekle One”

    I’m glad he isn’t because he loves to spoil everything.

    Cheers

    Oz.

    LOL.

  • BOB

    GTHO Pharse III was the fastest production V8 on the planet at the time, it was born a classic just like the Mustang shelby these great examples made me a fan for life, yes nothing comes any where near these beauty’s, eat dust GM Holden……………………

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    Ha Ha

    Yeah he is a head slap.

    Thats all I got to say about that obsessed Toyota lover only.

    Cheers
    F**k Off

  • Football, Meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Sorry Nos, I am married male oer 40 who has heaps of fun with my 25 year old wife. That really does sound like you

  • Nos

    My appologize meatpie, I should say those about you just because I do those things.

  • Nos

    Meant to say shouldn’t

  • nos

    dam its great to be strait. whoops did i say that out loud. sorry meatpie. forgot ur gay ass is still here.

  • Oz.

    How did prices of limited edtion cars get into this?

    I will show i’m not biased and say I like the Brock VL Directior “Body Of Holden, soul Of Brock”

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Nos I dare you say that to me face t face, Come to HUrstbridge Victoria station and say that to me whimp. Yo think your so smart behind a computer. You can even name a place. Een if Interstate I will book the next flight. You really are asking for trouble with tho insults. You are really looking at a schlacking. I betyour too gutless to come to a place to s tha fa to face to me loser

  • Oz.

    No, I think it was “Body BY Holden, Soul of Brock”

  • BOB

    big waste of money the walkinshaw is just a dressed up common bommodore group sssssss I hope he does lose money, it will teach him a lesson for not buying a classic like the phase III hahaha..

  • john

    is meatpie dude gone?

    is it safe for real people to come back and talk about cars?

  • john

    im a ford fan…

    the latest commodore is probably the better looking of all previous iterations…

    but i love the new ford spin on taking true european design in melding it into all its models slowly to ensure the right DNA look down its family tree…just dont mention the yanks designs…attrocious!

    as for holden…the only thing they can do right is import cars…doesnt mean the cars are worthy…it just means they can import…and the current commodore has had so many recalls already…whats going on?

    ford is gonna triumph slowly with the new orion…plus with the new mondeo already making a mark and the likes of the focus, fiesta, territory and hotted up fpvs…the future for ford looks bright…as long as they only source real european talent.

  • snapsnap

    40year old lawyer she’s 25 = gold digger

  • Oz.

    Nos & Football, please calm down! So we can talk about the Orion again.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Nos I suggest you look up the meaning of ass also because it is a word for donkey loser. You cant even spell arse correctly tosser.

  • john

    get a life meatpie!

  • Bavarian Missile

    hahaha…my anti spam word was smart….

    Hey John ,one would think he’s off to buy another bottle of something as his spelling has gone down the gurgler…

    Seems his 25 year old wife isn’t that much fun if he’s here ha!

    40 year old something…Solicitor yes but of what?

  • john

    seriously…i thought this thread had 240 plus real posts…only to realise a third were nonsense and stupidity with drivel added for taste…and mostly from you…

    please stick to the topic and stop attacking…if you’re so talented with all your achievements surely maturity should be one of them.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    I am quite happy to tal cars as its been a passion of mine my whole 4 decade life. Nos needs a good 4 D cell mag torch or trams point bar up his posterior.

  • john

    hey bm…are you doing an all nighter to wait for leaked pics?

  • john

    this orion cant come soon enough…focus outsold falcon to make the focus the biggest seller for jan for the blue oval…the first time the falcon wasnt

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    I have a life and my wife is sitting next to me watching inspector linley with me. Fun begins as soon as show finishes

  • Oz.

    John, I’m too scared to go to bed because I’m expecting a new post with premiture leaked pics.

    Ignore the arguments here and talk about the Orion Falcon

  • john

    bragging about a wife and your future exploits on a car forum shows just how much you dignify her existence…especially with ramblings that made no sense to the topic posted…

    [insert maturity here]

  • Bavarian Missile

    Football…..I had an A9X………but it wasn’t a Brock one AS YOU CALL IT ,I imagine either was yours. Grow up Phase 3 is the Epitome of Australian Muscle Cars……

    Its a good car still but would probably still only bring $200,000…..Don’t quote Muscle Car prices on this site mate cause you will get nailed if your talking GMH …….PFFTTTT!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Last non car related post from me for now, looks like Nos has gone crying to his mum saying a man has threatened to beat me up or he is too gutless to meet my request by insulting me.

  • john

    hey oz it feels like christmas and new years all wrapped up! hahaha…i know i feel tense…heehe…i just hope i dont feel disappointed like when melbourne lost the olympics to athens…

  • john

    oops i meant to barcelona…

  • Legend

    Can we just all ignore that tool and get bak to topic.It only makes him feel like a “big boy” when he argues

  • Bavarian Missile

    hahaha John………..Ill be up for a while…..have to give Wheelnut a call in a few hours. Plus its fun to watch Football make an idiot out of himself!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Actually BM, mine actually was complete with Brock signature. He was actually a old friend of my families in his Hurstbridge days.

  • john

    so who here would buy a new orion when it goes on sale?

    i myself cant wait for the melbourne motorshow to see it in the flesh…and to touch it…caress it…smell it…make love to it…sorry…my automotive emotions got the better of me.

  • john

    totally agree legend…

    so here’s my idea to save ford…

    scrap the taurus and crown victoria…make the rear wheel falcon the base for all future models…make europe the base for all small to medium cars – cause they know that job really well…and just leave the yanks to build their tanks…i mean the only good looking ford american product if the trucks…oohhh f series…*drool*

    what do you think? can i submit my cv for future ford global ceo?

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Actually BM, its not me making a fool of myself, its those who actually think this forum is only for ford fans who are making fools of themselves. They are quite happy to come onto holden topics insulting the holden name so I am entitled to do the same on ford topics. Its called a democracy.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    If you cant agree with it maybe you should go to a straight ford discussion forum. At least LS1 allows chat and debate on their site without the insults that fly on here.

  • snapsnap

    Actually meatpie, i just quickly read through the posts since yesterday and all were regarding the anticipation of the release until u turned up. see for yourself!

  • BOB

    Me will buy one as soon as it hits my dealer’s floor, instant classic like the current model and all before it.. I miss my EB Fairmont that was a great car, funny how we have move on to drive more advanced wheels for pleasure. aahhh what the heck I luv it whoops i spelt love wrong oh my #@$% our Kangaroo Meat Tenderizer will whip me good for that.

  • john

    i miss the series 2 eb falcon…was nice…but no am still happy with my 06 focus…just got 17inchers on em…so it looks tasty…

    when petrol goes below a dollar or when ford puts a decent diesel for the falcon will i only reconsider going full size again…but i will always have a soft spot for a falcon…

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Even my first posts were about orion, if you read my first post you would see that. It ws only when I got insulted that I went offtopic. If you believe thats not the case I suggest you get a reality unbiased check.

  • snapsnap

    i suggest you get your eyes checked. Mr negative from the word go pal.

  • Bavarian Missile

    So who is going to the public unveiling tomorrow?

    I should have asked where it was going to be…..anyone know?

    Lucky for those in Melbourne that can a attend!

  • BOB

    We have the latest Focus too, excellent wheels, haven’t seen one with 17 inchers, very tasty indeed did you go 4 chrome or the latest halve black paint and chrome versions… SPAM WORD FALCON MUST BE FOR GOOD LUCK

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    Snap shop here is a copy of my first post, where does it not relate to the topic. You lot cant take criticism about a ord but your willing to give it out to holden and thats just being whimpy.
    Big Bloody Deal. a slightly altered look on a 20th century platform released in the 9th year of the 21st century. Remember 2000 is included in this. I have already seen it in 99% undisguised form in both Broadmeadows and the You Yangs. You will find it as not really worth the hype it has got.

  • john

    im in melbourne but melbourne is so big…so i will just let the anticipation grow and sleep on it…and when i wake up tomorrow its gonna be a big bright orion day!

  • john

    yeah bob,,,i got em not from factory but from ttf in sunshine…theyre gmax brands wheels….multispoke 17 inchers riding on low profile tyres…very tasty…makes my old wheels from the smooth pack look so pedestrian! hahaha!

    i have been getting so many stares on my car now…delightful…but yeah they dont have many wheels for the current focus because the bolts aligntment is dfferent in europe than it is here…doesnt make sent to me.

  • john

    neither does my spelling must be getting late

  • Oz.

    Oh I agree John….

  • john

    with my nice wheels or with my lucklustre spelling?

  • john

    i wonder if someone from ford is monitoring this forum…all this interest be it sometimes negative…not looking at anyone in particular…should give them some hope that there is plenty of interest still in big cars.

  • BOB

    a good ol drill can re align stud holes hahahaha

  • Oz.

    If you are having troble with Football, Kangawoos. Send a complaint to http://www.caradvice.com.au/contact-us/ Alborz(Author of this site) said to use that form so it will get through to them.

  • Oz.

    I think you right john, someone from Ford would find this as entertainment. LOL!

  • Oz.

    12 hours to go guys! :mrgreen:

  • john

    yeah bob i was just told that today by a mate who told me about steves wheels..where the wheels are drilled yet…you buy them cheap and then get them drilled to suit your vehicle…apparently he can get 22 inchers with tyres for only $2900…and you can drill em for any car…

  • john

    12 hours…man…after 12 months its down to 12 hours…

  • john

    merry christ [orion unveiling] mas to all and to all a good [orion unveiling] night!

  • BOB

    OK lets GO FORD do it for Australia you deserve great success, you mean alot to us….jobs are going left right and centre please support a company that everyone and itself can prosper they should limit imports again so we keep local jobs here secure….

  • Damo

    Alright. I am finally back people!! Okay, let’s see. The VE is a pretty dodgy car and meatpies is a drongo.. But anyway, stop the arguing because we are about to anticipate the release of the car which is set to save ford australia. I think that this car will be good (looks wise) and will be mechainically superior to the commodore. I just hope it is aerodynamically superior so ford can start kicking ass in V8 supercars again!! Not that I take a huge interest in that shizz being a mitsu boy!1

  • Oz.

    start a Bathurst 12 hour and we see it at the end…LOL!

    Josh, how did you get italic writing?

  • JasonX

    while u guys are too busy arguing with each other.. look what I found!

    http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/2008fordfalconnew.jpg

  • http://elfin Russell Ingall.

    GO THE BOSS V8 IT KILLS THE VE, IT LOOKS BETTER THAN VE,MORE POWER THAN A VE,I JUST WANT ONE ASAP.

  • snapsnap

    whoa

  • Oz.

    JasonX, is that a A real picture? How did you find it?

  • http://elfin CRAIG LOWNDES

    HSV I JUST DONT WANT ONE…ITS UGLY AND ITS HAD 10 RECALLS IM CONFIDENT THE ORION WILL HAVE 0 RECALLS AND THE BOYS DID NOT RUSH IT OUT THE DOOR LIKE THE VE.ORION ACTUALLY LOOKS GOOD THE DESIGN LOOKS GOOD REAL GOOD MORE POWER BETTER AERO DYNAMICS THIS IS A SERIOUS CAR.

  • snapsnap

    hmmm i wonder if it going to be called the BG falcon

  • Oz.

    :mrgreen: Rolling On The Floor Laughing! :mrgreen:

    We all thought we’d get a premature leak! :o

  • Oz.

    BH sounds good! No BS please!

  • Oz.

    JasonX, the picture reminds me of a brocure from the 1980s I know it’s a CGI though!

  • Oz. 300

    :D

  • Oz.
  • acfsambo

    One problem with what meathead said earlier. This is not a forum but a comments page, adn also this is not a ford only forum but a ford post so back up your opinions like the pro fords have been doing or dont speak your mind. Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars, if u hav my ip and can find out were i liv, my msn is sambo_acf@msn.com. E-mail me my address and i will see if you are right.

  • snapsnap

    well im outa here, meatpie, lick the bag buddy!

  • http://elfin TEAM 888

    THE BOYS DID A GREAT JOB IM CONFIDENT IT WILL BE A SUCCESS LIKE THE BA,NOW A 290KW XR8 THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT.

  • Oz.

    My final word tonight: I hope this site’s server dosn’t go down tomorow by too many readers on at once! :(

  • Ross

    Holden, Meatpies, and KnobJockey – I challenge you to find my IP loser.

    You are a pathetic JOKE – you are all tough Mr. Keyboard Warrior LOL! Eg. Come meet me at so-and-so!!! Grow up mate – noone would waste their time going to meet you for your gay rendezvous!!

    So for everyones benefit.. can you please post my IP here for all to see… and then when you fail to do that (or produce the wrong IP), it will be clear for all to see just what a lying knob-riding fool you are.

    Cheers mate :)

  • golfschwein

    Incredible. 2000 was the last year of the previous millenium and century, FBMPKAHC. Count to 100 and see for yourself. Ready? One, two, fwee, twifty…

  • Bavarian Missile

    hahaha……hey Guys…….looks like us W.Aers are still here!

    Me off to bed……..just got off the phone to Wheelnut and thought I would check in to see if our Solicitor was back.Nope…….oh well lets hope he lets us enjoy OUR today today !

  • F@ GTHO

    ive had my computer on all nite searching for the falcon
    :) i will show u guys soon>

  • F@ GTHO

    :) :):):):):):):):)

  • F@ GTHO

    sorry lost it :) :) :) :0 :) :) :) please leave a comment

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    LOVE IT……………makes VE look average!

  • F@ GTHO

    when it comes out iater 2day we will see if there acurate :d :D

  • F@ GTHO

    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
    :D :D :D :D :D
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
    :D :D :D :D :D :D
    :D :D :D :D
    :D :D :D

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    Good to see Ford nailing a design not inked from USA. Release better be exactly as suspect!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    All of you losers keeping up the personal attacks, If it wasnt for losers like you I would wish Ford luck but guess what it just proves the type of audience Ford get and you are giving them a bad name so come on keep it up. I will print out all your comments show it to fords advertisers and suggest they set a advertisement campaign to suit Pedo’s and fags like you with the comments you make. You are actually doing harm to the FoMoCo Aus. Well guess what losers, I am heading off to the Launch in under 2 hours as I am allowed to take a guest whom I will pick up on the way while you drool like a 2 month old baby. I may not be a fan but its really great knowing people in the motor industry jealous fools. 99.9% of you will only get photos which never show the full story. I will nit pick over every failure of the dunnycan.

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    If you dont like my description of yourself go cry to mummy because you need to learn to take as good as you give. I was careful with the way I worded it so coe on go make a big deal about it. I know my sentiments behind it. Its upto you how you interpret it. Oh well the mechanics etc will be in their glory with the latest Fixed Or Repaired Daily car released today.

  • John

    did you guys get any sleep? hahahaha!

    the boy ramblings continue…

  • Oz.

    I had a short one! I went to bed at 1:00AM and woke up before 5:00AM!!!!

  • Westy

    John,

    Up here in Nth Qld I am waiting with eagerness at this release. It is definitely 12pm EDST isn’t it ??

    WESTY :)

  • Oz.

    Ignore Basketball,Applepie,Eagles & Holden…..

    He will go away if we focus on something else.

  • Westy

    I am glad I wasn’t in here late last night. I like good healthy debate with facts but when it degenerates we are 1 step away from being monkeys.

  • John

    well im off to church…i’ll be praying for a romping success…

    and yes its at 12:00 EDST – which means Eastern Daylight Summer Time…So if you’re in NSW, VIC, TAS & ACT its 12 midday on the dot…

    Im not sure how far behind QLD is…I know SA is 1/2 hour behind VIC and WA is now in Daylight Savings as well…which means 2 hours…and I think NT is the same as SA.

    hope i made sense!

  • Oz.

    I live in QLD and it’s 11am i’m waiting for!

  • Westy

    Great…11am….beer….popcorn…..comfy chair….all set!

  • Oz.

    Right now It feels like chistmas, start of Bathurst, end of Bathurst(After Ford Won) all put in one!

  • Football, Meatpies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars

    12 days it was meant to say but watch holden steal fords thunder as usual

  • Bavarian Missile

    Me seen the first pic of the G-series………wow.

  • Bavarian Missile

    OZ…………..me PM you……….

  • Oz.

    Yeah, I saw Ford’s CGI. Looks like it’ll be called the “BG” Falcon?

  • Bavarian Missile

    Yep short for “Bloody Good”

  • Oz.

    I wonder how long it takes for someone from a Ford forum to post it?

  • Oz.

    BM, did you get any sleep? I can say that I didn’t!!!

  • Wheelnut

    It sounds like it’s going to be a waste of time with Football meatpies and Knows Nothing About Holden Cars.. going to the Falcon launch if he has already made up his mind that he is going to hate it..

    It’ll be like “hmmph.. is that the best you can do.”

    All I can say to Football… is that your wealth of ignorance astounds me

  • Spitfire

    Settle down children. You are all hyperventilating. It is not the second coming, it is only a bloody motor car.

  • BK

    I bet holden will have another recall before the new falcon is released. They allready recalled the Pontiac in the USA cause the yanks saw a holden badge on some of the cars and they didnt know what it was. Holden is slowly fadin away here in OZ, falcon will be falcon comodore will be nothing.

  • BOB

    OK, one more go at meat head, I may (maybe) promise no more, well I hope this fella says something outloud during the showcase that has no relavance towards Ford, if I was there with my mates he would certainly be defamed very quickly putting him back in he’s small unimaginative Holdenwoo box, damn bastards copying some of Ford’s design, at least we didn’t spend a billion dollars just to have recalls and warranty problems.. lolol :-) ) hahahahahahaha

  • Wheelnut

    If I was a Yank with a Holden G8 I wouldn’t really worry about it. Afterall it was only the first couple of shipments that were affected which means that they would actually be somewhat unique..

  • BK

    Holden people are in panic mode cause the new falcon is gonna shit all over the VE. So far 205Kw and 395nm of torque. Holden allready lost the battle. How much more humiliation does Ford have to do to Holden. It happens always after every new Ford model comes out. Holden go to the yanks and stay a recalled pontiac.

  • BK

    Well it is true that where all holdens go they are always recalled. They try and rename em to something else but people do find out that they are a clapped out holden. I heard rumours that holden commodores will be sent to Iraq and be used as target practice. To many recalls so they have to be used for something

  • BOB

    Yes, blow em all up into dust, no more headaches.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Here is some interesting info a guy recently had his Cobra Dynoed he got 313 KWs at the flywheel…..pfttttttt so much for 302 FPV!

    So lets hope that the rumour of the GT having only 310 kws is crap cause that would mean your going to get the same engine that was in the Cobra…yawn! Wake me up when we reach a 100 clicks please….

  • Neo

    Meat Pie i have been sitting here reading and having a good old laugh you are like a 13 year old anyone can Babel Fish Translation. mate lets be honest you are getting killed out here and the reason that you are getting picked on is that you know nothing.

    mate spend some time not touching your self and do some research. like a 6Ci Turbo killing V8\’s you go on about your Chev 6L soon to be 7L V8\’s mate fords are keeping up with a 5.4l V8.

    also meat pie as your name is keyed as aussie and you go on about holden why do the holden guys put a chev badge on there car and then go on how its aussie? it does not make sense how can you be pro aussie for holden then put yank chev badge on. let me just state something here NO AMOUNT OF CHEV BADGE WILL MAKE A HOLDEN A CHEV. you dont see the yanks putting a holden badge on there car wishing it was a holden. you also go on about your power house V8 its not an Aussie engine like the Barra its a Chev engine so you can say holden are steps ahead.

    fords out dated cars are keeping up your your new cars always have we refine the cars make them better you just make new ones every 5 min you know why? because you cant make a good car in the first place 1 Billion $ and you cant even make one right who wants to be burnt alive while there driving down the road.

    this new ford is going to make waves.

    i let you rave and rant on but this comment below was ware you over stepped the line.

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    How much do you thinka genuine original Brock A9X goes for and also now the original HDT VB commodore. I can bet you one of those if put up for auction now would blow the GTHO out of the water now in particular since THe King of the Mountain has passe on. Just wait for someoneto auction off their investment. By the way, my second car was a genuine LX A9X

    you are so full of it meat pie Bogans dont have the money to buy them thats why they will NEVER come close to the GTHO. the only reason someone wants to get a walkin shite is so they can drive a car that looks like its got a swimming pool on the back. the GTHO was the Fastest 4 door of its time it smashed Holden at bathurst.

    have you seen how much a mock up GTHO is going for? maybe you should look its going to hit 100,000 soon people have been offered 1 Million for a GTHO Phase III and have knocked it back. mate a ford is an investment have a look on Red Book and look and the price of a holden V Ford in Resale. anyone can get a White Rusty Door for $500 drive around with a tinny in your hand and think its fast.

    now meat pie if you want some respect maybe you should know what you are talking about and do some research. every thing i have put here is true can you do the same?

    BTW i know this is long i had alot to say. guys its only hours away cant wait. anyone know what goody\’s are coming with the new ford eg. new Gear boxes or cut displacement like in the 300C better Breaks MP3 player in car Bluetooth maybe ect?

  • Frosty

    You Ford lunies are acting like teenagers under peer pressure. You cannot take criticism about a Ford Foulcan. Looking at the photo of the suppossed ghia tells me that it looks almost exactly like a BF2. Even th shape where the lower grill is just replacing where the number plate is on the BF2. Put front of the onion that will make you cry of dissapointment against the current and you will see what I mean. We will see in 30 minutes what the real car critics say. Good on you meatpie for throwing in a bit of debate. Unfortunately Ford fans cant take criticism

  • Frosty

    Put a BF2 front bumper on it and we will see how different it looks.

  • falconer

    There has been quite a lot of immaturity on this site in the past couple of days, but without a doubt the most immature is the person who brags about his age and the age of his wife. You are a lawyer / car reviewer 40 year old that can speak multiple languages and is an “old man” with a young wife. What sort of picture are you trying to portray of yourself, i don’t think that you are portraying the picture that you might think you are. Maybe you should grow up since you are supposed to be a well educated 40 year old yet you’re drawn into bullshit dribble so very easily and wanting to sort people out because they are intentionally firing you up. You are truly a wanker and i don’t say that because of the car maker you support but because of the infintile behaviour you display! You are what people know as a typical Holden knob! My apologies to the other holden fans who don’t act like this, we welcome your constructive criticism and thought provoking comments. You are a true hero meatpie, just wondering if you like eating your shinboners in your pies?

  • BK

    Netballs, Meatballs, Kangaroo poo and oldhen Cars. You cant handle it wen we all bag oldhen cars cause there not aussie made. Oldhen dunnydores are being sent to USA as Pontiacs so theres your proof that there not aussie at all.
    Holden commodore car sales are falling so that means that commodore will be dead soon but Falcon will be continuing in USA as a Ford falcon. You might as well give up right now and just admit that Ford falcon will be goin on forever and commodore will fade away. Bring it on Ford and put commodore out of business.

  • http://- Matthew

    This “NEW” Falcon is nothing of the sort. It the old car in new clothing, completly pathetic. It’s not even a new chassis, Holden don’t have to worry about anything.

  • Oz.

    Who are you talking to Matthew? Like talking to your self don’t you?

  • Oz.

    Matthew,
    I really don’t need to hear your rubbish, i’ll take the facts thanks

  • golfschwein

    Sadly, Mathew’s on the money. It’s the old car in new clothing but, hey, that’s been done many times before today.

  • http://elfin Craig lowndes.

    I think golfy and matty dont know enough about it and thats sad,its game over hsv oh and they have alot to worry about it just kills the ve in every way,gt makes the gts look soft.

  • GhisGT

    Geeze, $800 million spent for that? Looks like I’m shopping elsewhere.

  • GhisGT

    I recon Holden just breathed a sigh of relief.

    $800 million for a face lift?

    I recon people will hardly notice it’s the new Falcon on the road, so much for all this big talk.

    Oh, and lovin’ the interior styling cues taken straight from the VE – two tone identical colour choice, centre info screen in between gauge binnacles. Not to the mention the exterior, I dont even wanna go there.

    Gone of the days where you could easily tell a VB Commodore from a XD Falcon.

    The similarities between the two now are just ridiculous, I laugh at all you people saying its gonna kick the Commodores arse. It’s the same figgen car!

  • Duck

    ^^^^^^^^^figgen car. Whats that? Dumb arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Duck

    ^^^^^Sorry ChrisGT, I apoligise. I miss understood.