Comments on: Strong January sales figures

By: Will

Will — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:00:43 +0000

So much passione here boys, but be aware, here comes Hyundai-Kia. There seems to be so much argument over trivia on this blog. I could not give a rats arse what others prefer, it is what I like at the time and I don’t care what badge it wears.

I have owned 37 new cars to date. The best one I have owned, will be the next one ha ha ha and it sure will not be a diesel stinkbomb that sounds like a tractor, maybe auto-gas is the way.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 10 May 2008 09:26:10 +0000

Hi mates, as a man with passion of car, I will never buy a corolla.

By: Bret

Bret — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:13:49 +0000

TP, Bilsein
And just what % of fleet corollas are user chooser? I’d bet SFA. A large chunk of Falcon/Commodore fleet sales ARE chosen by the indidual, many are salary sacrificed private sales hidden in the flet numbers.
Camry/380/Magna ARE the do suffer the biggest losses for fleet companies at disposal time – your propaganda cant change real facts.

Bilstein – yep you’ve confirmed your identity and purpose. New ISP was it to get around the ban? Toyota paid stooge!

By: Bilstein

Bilstein — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:21:08 +0000

Andrew, i don’t dispute that Commodore and Faloons are amoung the most researched but what i don’t understand is why such a poor standing when it comes to private sales.

My guess is that most people like to thrash these cars when it is not thier own but won’t actually purchase them with thier own cash because of thier questionable and somewhat grey history as a dependable motor vehicle.

I believe i won’t be to far removed from the truth when i say that.

I, myself enjoy driving a Commodore or Falcon hard but when it comes to being on owner of one and having to support thier often troublesome nature, i all of a sudden become not so keen. Basically, they are OK when they are not mine.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:19:42 +0000

mate my logic comes from seeing camrys/aurions beside falcons and commodores in the car yard and papers and seeing that they fare no better in terms of 2nd hand pricing.

also carsales for eg actually shows you the most searched vehicles and the top 2 always happen to be falcon and commodore

where do you get your logic to think that i am wrong?

By: Bilstein

Bilstein — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:12:46 +0000

TP, DRIVE published a special report dedicated to fleet percentage sales of vehicles in mid 2007 and i have sense visited it from time to time to brush up my knowledge.

Latest report, Commodores and Falcons approx 80% fleet bound while 60% of Corolla’s brought privately.

Good chatting with you on this site. Came across it a few days ago at work when someelse was browsing through and have been addicted to it ever sense. I think the wife is getting upset with the time i have spent on the computer lately but i am enjoy the exeriance none the less as there has been alot of rain in my part of the country lately.

Nice weather predicted for tomorrow so probably less contact as i catch up on external house chores such as mowing the lawns and washing the cars.

Not sure how long i can keep going until the boss (wife) cracks down on me put i will persist until then so when i disappear you’ll know when she has won and i lost.

Cheers

By: Bilstein

Bilstein — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:01:33 +0000

Andrew, i am not sure were you get your logic from but resonable resale value of the Camry is directly related to it’s positive used market demand.

When it comes to third hand, you can keep it.

The more i read of your comments the more i understand they are shot from the hip with questionable value or substance.

It is easy to pass any comment as one desires but wether it is accurate against the actual market can often be another world.

I am learning to take your responses with a grain of salt based on the reality of the market weighted against your comments.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:53:07 +0000

once again TP,
yes wouldnt it be great if your theories were that simple…
this high school economics you speak of obviously doesnt factor in that possibly there is a higher demand for used commodores and falcons to offset the high numbers of fleet disposal………
of and by the way falcons and commodores are more sought after on the 3nd hand market

last time i looked the camry’s and Aurions dont fare anybetter than commys and falcons.
perhaps even though there is a lower quantity of them on the second hand market it is also obvious when related back to this “high school economics” that the demand on 2nd aurions and camrys is low

Jbot,
just interested, how did your brother get a “new 2005″ model 1 1/2 years after the fact?
he’d want to hope they didnt sting him the full list price
I’m also pretty positive that you wouldnt still be paying list price for an 18 month old Aurion

By: TP

TP — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:06:21 +0000

Bilstein 60% was as per drive in like 2006 in article ‘Myth Busted : Australia’s favourite car’… that must have changed then, even better reflection on Toyota!

By: TP

TP — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:01:58 +0000

AndrewM Im sorry you cant comprehend common sense…. nothing to do with my logic, its the facts in this case.

Exactly Jbot doesnt take Einstein to realise that either, Falcons and Commodores are renowned for being big depreciators…anyone with a high school level of economics can understand this, lots of sales to fleets, as soon as they are offloaded onto prviate market supply > demand = cheap cheap cheap.